That birth certificate of Osa …
err, Obama!!
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp...
Politifact.com, a fact check web site, says, “Unlike other documents, Hawaii birth certificates aren’t public record. Only family members can request copies, so when the campaign declined to give us one, we were stalled.” After the Obama campaign released a copy of the birth certificate, however, Politifact says they went a step further: “We e-mailed it to the Hawaii Department of Health, which maintains such records, to ask if it was real. ‘It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate,’ spokesman Janice Okubo told us.” Still, questions persisted.
Politifact says, “When the official documents were questioned, we went looking for more answers.” “If this document is forged,” Politifact says, “a U.S. senator and his presidential campaign have perpetrated a vast, long-term fraud. They have done it with conspiring officials at the Hawaii Department of Health, the Cook County (ILL.) Bureau of Vital Statistics, the Illinois Secretary of State’s office, the Attorney Registration & Disciplinary Commission of the Supreme Court of Illinois and many other government agencies.”
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http://mediamatters.org/items/2008102...
Media Matters for America
Conservative media figures allege Obama’s Hawaii trip is about discredited birth-certificate rumors, not his ailing grandmother –
Summary: Michael Savage, Rush Limbaugh, and Jerome Corsi suggested or asserted that the true purpose of Sen. Barack Obama’s current trip to Hawaii is not to visit his ailing grandmother, as Obama claims, but rather to address rumors — widely debunked — that Obama has failed to produce a valid U.S. birth certificate. However, in addition to FactCheck.org and a Hawaiian Health Department official, even Corsi’s employer, the right-wing website WorldNetDaily, has reportedly determined that the birth certificate provided by the Obama campaign is authentic.
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Bah Humbug! Republicans are just sore losers.
Commander Ikari wrote:
That title sure is attention catching.
glad you like it
Anonymous wrote:
Bah Humbug! Republicans are just sore losers.
Odd…
Bah humbug seems like what would Scrooge would say…
And he was rich, and likely would be Republican..
But he did have a change of heart…
really? really? really? really? really? really?
because of his birth certificate, he must be a terrorist.
b.s.
BARACK THE VOTE!!!!!
John McSame will NEVER win
legally that is.
endmcbus wrote:
John McSame will NEVER winlegally that is.
?
ohhhhh..
You mean he’ll use voter fraud…
Thought you were alluding to his being born in the panama canal…
I’m not saying I support him but if he’s got the best ideas, who gives a rat’s a## where he was born? If he ends this stupid war, I wouldn’t care if he was born in Saddam’s palace.
http://www.answers.com/topic/humbug
Although, now that you mention it, McCain could be an excellent actor for the part of Scrooge… McCain is just upset b/c Obama’s gran is probably not much older than he is.
people shouldnt be so rude about this election..useing things like OSAMA and Mcsain….Grow up people.
Anonymous wrote:
I’m not saying I support him but if he’s got the best ideas, who gives a rat’s a## where he was born? If he ends this stupid war, I wouldn’t care if he was born in Saddam’s palace.
yeh :) (except for the ol’ Constitution, which needs preserving)
Joy. wrote:
people shouldnt be so rude about this election..useing things like OSAMA and Mcsain….Grow up people.
I was only kidding …
endmcbus wrote:
really? really? really? really? really? really?because of his birth certificate, he must be a terrorist.
b.s.
BARACK THE VOTE!!!!!
John McSame will NEVER win
legally that is.
thats the comment I was refering to.
Joy. wrote:
Grow up people.
Peter Pan. wrote:
I won’t ever grow up!
there is such an ungodly about of hate in the election.
and NEITHER of the candidates are a bad man. It seems when someone is saying one is better they are saying that the other one is a bad person who only want to be president to distroy america. Both men are going to do the best they can, and both men only have good intentions.
you’re right, Joy, I think we shouldn’t call him clever names like McSame and I agree there’s a lot of hate and also despair (lack of hope, ever). But I don’t think McCain’s intentions are so great. They’re a least a mixed bag.
Commander Ikari wrote:
Joy. wrote:
Grow up people.Peter Pan. wrote:
I won’t ever grow up!
I love you Commander.
Politics isn’t nice. The mud is flying already, we thought we’d just join in :)
I don’t know if they both have purely good intentions. If I wanted the country to be safe, I wouldn’t pick Palin as a running mate, even if she is popular.
But hes not a bad person..Just greedy..
Me too. I think picking her showed great selfishness, not great desire to serve.
Florie wrote:
Me too. I think picking her showed great selfishness, not great desire to serve.
I think it just showed he didn’t want to choose Lieberman and polarize his supporters over Lieberman’s abortion stance…
but I doubt that Obama is a savior or anything.
Commander Ikari wrote:
Florie wrote:I think it just showed he didn’t want to choose Lieberman and polarize his supporters over Lieberman’s abortion stance…
Me too. I think picking her showed great selfishness, not great desire to serve.
Really? You don’t think it had anything to with Sarah being a woman, and a feisty, ruthless one at that? (well, in my opinion)
“Contrary to popular belief, I was not born in a manger.” -Barack Obama
I’m a Democrat, but I will admit there are many qualified Republicans out there. John McCain could have chosen one of them. Why Palin? He needed something to draw media attention to his campaign.
I like that! :) “Contrary to popular belief, I was not born in a manger.” -Barack Obama
Florie wrote:
Commander Ikari wrote:Really? You don’t think it had anything to with Sarah being a woman, and a feisty, ruthless one at that? (well, in my opinion)
Florie wrote:I think it just showed he didn’t want to choose Lieberman and polarize his supporters over Lieberman’s abortion stance…
Me too. I think picking her showed great selfishness, not great desire to serve.
no, more with wanting to appear a maverick, get his supporters to actually get excited in the short term.
he chose Palin to get the conservative vote, and because Alaska has a **** load of oil.
what does “I was not born in a manger” mean?
Joy. wrote:
what does “I was not born in a manger” mean?
means he ain’t Jesus.
I don’t think of Obama as a savior. I think of him as a brother.
Commander Ikari wrote:
[no, more with wanting to appear a maverick, get his supporters to actually get excited in the short term.
Both then - because she’s a woman and he could “appear” (to some) a maverick.
whats a manger?
Well apparently alot of people think he is a savior or he wouldnt have felt the need to say that comment.
We don’t need an inexperienced vice-president to get oil. That’s why we’re in Iraq…
but if we get oil from alaska then we have no reason to be in iraq.
Away in a manger
No crib for a bed
The little lord Jesus
Lay down his sweet head
(in the barn, full of soft hay and candlelight and wise men and little furry animals looking on and angels and stuff)
witch I dont think we need to be over there anyway..Its now just for stupid reasons.
Joy. wrote:
Well apparently alot of people think he is a savior or he wouldnt have felt the need to say that comment.
He said it during a charity event where both candidates were making fun of themselves. His next line was “I was actually born on Krypton.”
hay is so not soft…lol
Joy. wrote:
witch I dont think we need to be over there anyway..Its now just for stupid reasons.
oil & power
Joy. wrote:
hay is so not soft…lol
oops that’s true
Anonymous wrote:
Joy. wrote:He said it during a charity event where both candidates were making fun of themselves. His next line was “I was actually born on Krypton.”
Well apparently alot of people think he is a savior or he wouldnt have felt the need to say that comment.
I know when he said it, I watched their speeches.
Anonymous wrote:
Joy. wrote:He said it during a charity event where both candidates were making fun of themselves. His next line was “I was actually born on Krypton.”
Well apparently alot of people think he is a savior or he wouldnt have felt the need to say that comment.
Hee hee …
Joy. wrote:
but if we get oil from alaska then we have no reason to be in iraq.
There’s not enough oil in Alaska to solve anything.
Florie wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hee hee …
Joy. wrote:He said it during a charity event where both candidates were making fun of themselves. His next line was “I was actually born on Krypton.”
Well apparently alot of people think he is a savior or he wouldnt have felt the need to say that comment.
see..if alot of people didnt see him as a savior(or super hero) he wouldnt feel the need to say those things even as a joke it wouldnt even be funny if there werent people who actually believed it.
Florie wrote:
Joy. wrote:There’s not enough oil in Alaska to solve anything.
but if we get oil from alaska then we have no reason to be in iraq.
Still better then fighting in Iraq AND paying them like billions of dollars to pay for **** weve distroyed while over there.
Theres no reason for that…and down in Texas they have wind energy!!! Why dont we just get that to power our ****?
Joy wrote:
see..if alot of people didnt see him as a savior (or super hero) he wouldnt feel the need to say those things even as a joke it wouldnt even be funny if there werent people who actually believed it.
oh, what does it matter? people worshipped The Beatles too, but that didn’t mean they weren’t great! :)
why was power muted lol…
Florie wrote:
Joy wrote:oh, what does it matter? people worshipped The Beatles too, but that didn’t mean they weren’t great! :)
see..if alot of people didnt see him as a savior (or super hero) he wouldnt feel the need to say those things even as a joke it wouldnt even be funny if there werent people who actually believed it.
Compairing yourself to Jesus & super man is way bigger then compairing yourself to the beatles..
Joy. wrote:
Florie wrote:Compairing yourself to Jesus & super man is way bigger then compairing yourself to the beatles..
Joy wrote:oh, what does it matter? people worshipped The Beatles too, but that didn’t mean they weren’t great! :)
see..if alot of people didnt see him as a savior (or super hero) he wouldnt feel the need to say those things even as a joke it wouldnt even be funny if there werent people who actually believed it.
But he’s UNcomparing himself to Jesus.
Ohboy!!! get this: http://www.pr-inside.com/barack-obama…
Barack obama is not barack obama
‘obama’s father was frank marshall davis. obama is really frank marshall davis, jr.
Florie wrote:
Joy. wrote:But he’s UNcomparing himself to Jesus.
Florie wrote:Compairing yourself to Jesus & super man is way bigger then compairing yourself to the beatles..
Joy wrote:oh, what does it matter? people worshipped The Beatles too, but that didn’t mean they weren’t great! :)
see..if alot of people didnt see him as a savior (or super hero) he wouldnt feel the need to say those things even as a joke it wouldnt even be funny if there werent people who actually believed it.
I know..I’m just sayin it annoys me that ppl see him as our savior.
Joy, solar and wind power is only practical in certain areas. It can’t be used everywhere.
Barack = Frank, OMG! Call Fox!! If he changed his name, why would he choose Hussein as a middle name though…
Doctor Hu :) wrote:
Joy, solar and wind power is only practical in certain areas. It can’t be used everywhere.
Barack = Frank, OMG! Call Fox!! If he changed his name, why would he choose Hussein as a middle name though…
Like our homes? and solar for our vehicals?
Areas that do not get very much sunlight cannot rely upon solar power.
like where? Alaska? They can conserve the power for the times they dont have sunlight. and Wind is constant every where
Just unbelievable video: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10…
McCain wished he can turn back time… so he would have not picked Palin…
Actually most “rednecks” are for Mccain.
Joy. wrote:
Actually most “rednecks” are for Mccain.
Not necessarily. Many “rednecks” are from the working and lower classes which tend to vote Democrat.
umm humm
I’m a redneck and I’ll vote for Obama!
okay…your A redneck…your not the voice of all rednecks.
I’m a redneck too, and I’ll vote for Obama!
your the same ******* person. stupid.
I’m another redneck who will vote for Obama!
http://www.rednecks4obama.com/
Dude shut up. your the same ******* person allright? your one person.
Nope. We are the rednecks for Obama!
anon, the anon tile is generated by your ip.
We know that your one guy.
Stop being dense.
Anonymous wrote:
Nope. We are the rednecks for Obama!
your stupid.
I am John McCain. And I will vote for Obama!
Anonymous wrote:
I am John McCain. And I will vote for Obama!
People like you make me ashamed to be from the south.
Anonymous wrote:
I’m another redneck who will vote for Obama!http://www.rednecks4obama.com/
:)
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for Obama =)
Obama is clearly the intelligent choice. Heres a guy that keeps his cool and is thinking about what this country needs, not how dishing up dirt on or finding excuses to trample on his opponent with petty garbage (that is the least of our worries!)
Go Florie!!!
my cousin was born there in the same year as obama and its the same certificate. just out of curiousity, if he WAS born in kenya to his mom when she was visiting there (as ive heard some rumors say), would he still be eligible? i have a little cousin who was born in germany four years ago, because my aunt and uncle (both born in the US) were vacationing there for a few weeks and she was born prematurely. would she be able to be president, hypothetically?
If the child has an American birth certificate then yes. My Daughter was born in England, my son was born in Holland,both hold American birth certificates. Hope this helped. :-)
You know I wish there was no war on terror…
By that I mean I wish we werent fighting terrorism with actions that may be considered by those unfortunate to be stuck in the middle of the conflict to view these actions as terrorism itself.
I wish there was a way using tolerism and kindness. But I guess its too late for that as already too much haterd has been generated.
I do feel, that the US forces should be there but mainly to reinforce trust in the world and promote friendship between countries as well as defend the civilians, not to carpet bomb areas and hunt down terrorists without consideration for innocent civilians.
I was going to drop in and offer to make a cup of tea…
But am worried about sparking a mutiny in Boston.
:o)
Here’s an interesting thought…a hypothetical one of course
How many americans would vote Jesus for President if that were possible? I’m not being religiously disrespectful (honestly).. just making the point that I don’t think the issue of birthplace would be such an issue would it?
Apart from among the aethiests maybe…
R.A.M wrote:
You know I wish there was no war on terror…By that I mean I wish we werent fighting terrorism with actions that may be considered by those unfortunate to be stuck in the middle of the conflict to view these actions as terrorism itself.
I wish there was a way using tolerism and kindness. But I guess its too late for that as already too much haterd has been generated.
I do feel, that the US forces should be there but mainly to reinforce trust in the world and promote friendship between countries as well as defend the civilians, not to carpet bomb areas and hunt down terrorists without consideration for innocent civilians.
dear R.A.M., thank you so much for writing these words, which are beautiful. I really believe that even after all the hatred our government has caused, if we would mend our ways, and start doing what you say, the world would take us back! War IS Terrorism. We should all be seeking PEACE. Thank you, R.A.M.
Who knows, maybe after all of this is over, Barack will start something like Dennis Kucinich’s idea for a Department of Peace. We have the Department of Defense (and I would say also the Department of Offense). Dennis Kucinich, the invisible candidate, has been talking about Peace all this time. Peace and Truth. Maybe Barack knows, and just hasn’t announced yet that Dennis will be in his cabinet. [ Florie dreams … ]
Some people believe he’s a terrorist because of his name, wow, we are really getting back to medieval days..
they’ll shout it out at Mccain rallies when him and that **** Pailen are trying to pump up the crowd. But really how desperate can you get when you keep bringing up that Bill Ayers nonsense, republicans..
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (23 hours, 52 minutes after post)
i say we kick out all the people who are running and just outsource it to india.
I don’t know about that, I usually hang up on telemarketers. That would mean I may have hung up on a future leader of the country. I’m not sure if I want to take responsibility for that…
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (23 hours, 56 minutes after post)
would you like some change for you today?
my name is abdul. please to be asking you of youre phone operator provisions now.
all i’m saying is that in all of this, have we forgotten that america funded what is now the taliban and they still give sanctuary to most of the bin laden family in the usa… what exactly is the war on terror? a war on people who have muslim middle names or who dont want the world to turn into one global dictatorship? so much fuss is made about patriotism in the united states yet i have yet to meet one patriotic american, if you are patriotic, surely you are for the upholding of all laws and values of the united states? but most people are standing by and watching it all be torn to shreds.. as a muslim i know that muslims sure as hell didn’t start terrorism, the roots of the taliban go back to america who created them, then used them as an excuse to wage war on the rest of the world, namely the middle east who they didn’t have an excuse to attack before 9/11, the weapons of mass destruction faded into the background after the ruinatiion of the iraqi people and now the usa has caused mass starvation and mass poverty as well as mass homelessness, when will BIG W be held to account for that? and then to show that they disregard muslims completely, they executed saddam on a holy festival.. whther obama wins or mcshame, all i pray is that there is a god and that justice will be done and all the people who lie and are happy that they are getting away with it will be held to account one day or that one day the people will wake up and realise that the government is NOT rulers of us, they were made to govern us according to OUR will, and they are riding roughshod over anything and everything and letting the fatcats line their pockets.. uhh rant over, probably it wont make any difference but they say at least if you raise your voice against something, its as if you had an army at your command, even if its only in your heart, please speak out about wrongdoing and lies before we all fall victim to it and then it will be too late for any of us
In order to become POTUSOA one must be a natural born citizen and 35 years of age. Obama has proven neither. Perhaps that is why he is visiting Hawaii(to visit an ailing relative). So he can put some pressure on those in charge and conjure up a legit looking birth certificate….
So I guess Superman would never get in then… even if he were the right man for the job ?
Maybe someone needs to look at writing another amendment to include Krypton?
Or perhaps the spirit of the Constitution and less the letter of one of its early laws should be the way to go…
As for your remark regarding the Hawai visit Dr. Ralph.. do you apply the same rigidity in your understanding of the law when it comes to defamatory implication, slander and libel?
Thank you Mr. President, sir. Is that a new cape?
Just curious, who would Superman’s running mate be?
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