So the company I work for is making a permanent management position for me.
It involves inventory control, fulfillment and some accounting—they’re asking me to relocate my office 50 miles away and will be presenting me with a new package, from what I understand.
I’ve worked VERY hard generating ideas to make the company more efficient, I’ve presented my ideas to VP’s and CEOs. Complete pilot packages, cost breakdowns, specs on hardware and software, multi-options, process and protocol, projections and training. I’m an efficient and aggressive employee, you want something done, ask me and I get it done. I have several managers who LOVE me to come work for them—so I go “on loan” to other offices often. I think I’ll miss doing that most, working at remote sites.
I guess what I’m wondering is, the contract negotiation. I don’t know what its worth to a large corp. entity to have a process implemented and a training program for that process and someone to manage and train people on it. We’re talking 100’s of millions of dollars worth of product and materials. I know I want to work a casual dress code into my negotiations because I will be working in a warehouse, and it’s not realistic to have someone dress up for that. On the silly side, I want an office not a cube and I MUST have a window, because of the hours I will be working. Arriving and leaving when its dark is a mind killer.
Anyone have input?
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First off, Congrats!
Second. You should ask them about all of your questions. I’m sure that if you have helped out your work place like that, then they would be more than happy to answer your questions. Also, suggest what you would like, but in a non nagging way. You’d be suprised to what you can get if you ask nicely. :) I hope your job works out the way you want it too.
Panda Bear wrote:
First off, Congrats!
Second. You should ask them about all of your questions. I’m sure that if you have helped out your work place like that, then they would be more than happy to answer your questions. Also, suggest what you would like, but in a non nagging way. You’d be suprised to what you can get if you ask nicely. :) I hope your job works out the way you want it too.
hehehe I’ve tried nicely, a few weeks ago I “stormed HR” and said “so what does a girl have to do around here to get a raise?” The director laughed. Since then I’ve been on her mind—I told her I didn’t mind doing the work of 4 people, I want to make more money tho, and so I’m willing to bust my butt, working hard. Basically I’ve given them a TON of freebies, now I want to make this mutually benefical.
YAY!!!! thats the way to go….
**(wondering is, the contract negotiation. I don’t know what its worth to a large corp. entity to have a process implemented and a training program for that process and someone to manage and train people on it.)**
so we are talking about a new program, possibly developed by you, not to train you, but to train others in company proceedures. right?
**(We’re talking 100’s of millions of dollars worth of product and materials.)
Your expecting your new progtam to cost the company so much that it would take all of this to pay for it??
**( I know I want to work a casual dress code into my negotiations because I will be working in a warehouse, and it’s not realistic to have someone dress up for that. On the silly side, I want an office not a cube and I MUST have a window, because of the hours I will be working. Arriving and leaving when its dark is a mind killer. )
and these are how you envision your job and the things you need to be willling to accept this new position..Right?
the office thing isnt silly. do they have such a room or area available?
other wise all I ask is; DO you mind the additional 1 hour each way commute, or are you ok with relocating?
I hope you are excited about taking this advanced position. This is the way to go .. get promoted!!!
Congrats!
That sounds totally reasonable to me. The best thing…imo…to do is keep it a negotiation..don’t make demands, make requests. This by far allows for the other side to come back and hack your ideas to shreds.
If they really have a problem with it, they should fire back until you guys can compromise on it. How fragile is the position? Like, they won’t just walk away from you if you ask for extra printer paper, right?
If not…you better ask for more duct tape…you use like a whole roll every time I see you…blah
Mas 1st wrote:
You are on the cusp here - dealing with CEO’s and VP’s but mourning the loss of your old job.Thing that worries me is when you use the word ‘wondering’. Dont wonder - ask. You had to have b*lls to get where you are so dont stop now. You should be in no doubt about your office space prior to entering this new contract, nor should you be forced to change dress code if your current one got you this far.
When you get success young you tend to think ‘they are going to realise someday that I cant do this’ - you can - but dont sell yourself short. You are being asked to redeploy your talents for their convenience - make sure that your needs/demands are met and form part of that. - Mas
Exactly, if you have been busting your *** to make them happy, then you need to tell them that, granted, only if you want to, that you want a raise, you have been working hard enough for it and you deserve it.
Requiem in D minor wrote:
YAY!!!! thats the way to go….so we are talking about a new program, possibly developed by you, not to train you, but to train others in company proceedures. right?
The program will be scratch built by me, for the company. It’s product control for the 100’s of millions—the cost is far less than 1/1000 of the product I will be controling (monitoring, packing, fufilling) I’m always concerned with cost and functionability no matter how big the company is, they don’t need to waste money on things.
They’ve just completed the build out for the warehouse. I don’t know if an office with a window will be avaliable.
I can’t move, they already asked and I just renewed the longest apt option, and they won’t buy out my lease.
I think I deserve at LEAST a 30-60% pay increase. I’m currently a b>project assistant /b>, and this year I broke out and just went after any work that got me more interaction with management and developed my own process to make the company more efficent helping to improve the bottom line. b>I’m going from an Assistant to a Project Manager in Training—-to also Department Management…it’s a BIG step. /b>
red fox wrote:
Congrats! That sounds totally reasonable to me. The best thing…imo…to do is keep it a negotiation..don’t make demands, make requests. This by far allows for the other side to come back and hack your ideas to shreds. If they really have a problem with it, they should fire back until you guys can compromise on it. How fragile is the position? Like, they won’t just walk away from you if you ask for extra printer paper, right?If not…you better ask for more duct tape…you use like a whole roll every time I see you…blah
Your job is the closest to what I’m developing, you know I work construction…I’m going to be making the program used to track: product purchase, fufillment, confirmation and Quality Control….
I’m hoping that they’ll give me fair market salary—without too much pushing. Sometimes companies will just squeeze you dry…
OF COURSE I’MA have DUCT TAPE—-
Times,
this is my specialty.
Just like you have outlined above, list what you bring to the equations, your obvious qualifications, and then what you need to make it work for you.
do NOT be shy with your needs here.
Take what you make now, and add about 20%. Your worth it, right?
be prepared to accept 15-17%, if they give you all your perks.
Do not accept less than what would make you comfortable. If you do, you wont be happy in the job, and your productivity will suffer, and no one wins
On the other hand, there was a reason they asked you to make this move, so dont be afraid to ask for your true value.
good luck, and congrates…and if things dont work out, maybe we could talk about expanding my business into your area..I would be open to discuss that for sure, cause you know some big words.
Right pad your request with 5-15% over what you think you’re worth, gotcha.
I DO know big words!
and I was typing as you mentioned the 30-60 % EXPECTATIONS. I would not think to approach that kind of increase until a year in the position…you gotta prove you got the moves..
Not to pry, but it would help if I had a clue what salary bracket you are in right now, but for arguments sake, I am thinking maybe around 40,000 a year now. So 17% puts you around 46800. Plus the intangables, like an office and casual work enviornment and scheduele (both things I would be very forward about), that add to the pot.
Without those perks, I would ask for about 25%, and accept no less than 22%
Hey Times! It’s been a while…
Congratulations! It sounds like your hard work has paid off. And, if you are bringing procedures and training “in house” you are going to be saving the company A TON of money. And, since you already have an established reputation with the company that you work for, there isn’t anything that can’t be put on the negotiating table. Two suggestions:
1) When you make your requests, tie them to your productivity (As in, “If I’m able to telecommute when I’m writing the training manual I’ll be able to devote more time to the project.” Or, “If I’m able to take every second Friday off, I will be able to run errands then, rather than trying to fit them in during my lunch break”.)
2) Start laying the groundwork for the things that you are asking for before you reach the actual negotiating table. Talk with management to find out what they are willing to consider.
Don’t get too greedy! You deserve to be rewarded for your hard work, but you don’t want to appear unreasonable!
You are a asset to them. They know that, that is why they offered you the position. They are asking a lot from you, you need to ask for a lot back. You are going to have a lot of responsibility at this new job. You are going to have more travel time and travel cost to consider in. Figure out in gas and where and tear on your on car, how much that is going to cost you a year. So either you ask them to cover travel cost or add the cost on top of what you are asking for in pay. 50 miles away is asking a lot I think. How much time are you going to spend in the car each day? Make sure your pay is worth it.
baby steps, babe.
Who else you know here that runs his own company, and deals with major corperations on the daily…matter of fact…
I could train you to run one of my delivery hubs…and I know they have;
Mattress Giant
Mattress Firm
Home Depot
GE Appliances
Best Buy
or some reasonable approxamation of one of these near you…hmmm…
IM me one day, haha
Well it sounds like you’re going to miss a few things with your current job. That being said I still know all of your feelings about it and how hard it is.
Being offered this opportunity is great, I know you were thinking it was coming sooner then this, but congratulations now :).
I think those requests are professional and nothing out of hand. I don’t see any reason why you can’t see if those can be done. I’m not entirely sure what you think about an extra 50 minutes being tacked onto your commute from home to work, but I guess it’s something to think about.
I think right now you need to see what the package they are going to present you with has in it. Maybe after you see it you can better gauge what makes the most sense. It might even have some of these “wants” in there as well.
congratulations times. Its always a good feeling to receive promotion with your vocation. I would definitely put in some requests for your office installment and necessities. I also found that my work gets accomplished promptly and successfully when i am secluded from others but also in a comfortable environment. Good luck with the inquiry and again, congrats:)
Job well done, good to see you getting rewarded. lol…that’s a negotiation you’ll have do do own your:) Mas was right about asking questions and there is nothing wrong with asking for a couple of days to sleep on their proposal. Smile and try to let them do the talking:) They know what they pay. Ask them….”He who speaks first loses”. Their first number isn’t their ceiling. But seriously, this is something only you can know…don’t let us confuse you:) No luck involved, so may the force be with you..lol. You got the skills baby:)
Good work.
Listen to Brian… He is the one person on here who has given an experienced point of view. I would ask again if they would buy out your lease and move you OR give you a travel allowance to compensate for the gas costs to and from the new office.
A-K-S wrote:
and I was typing as you mentioned the 30-60 % EXPECTATIONS. I would not think to approach that kind of increase until a year in the position…you gotta prove you got the moves..Not to pry, but it would help if I had a clue what salary bracket you are in right now, but for arguments sake, I am thinking maybe around 40,000 a year now. So 17% puts you around 46800. Plus the intangables, like an office and casual work enviornment and scheduele (both things I would be very forward about), that add to the pot.
Without those perks, I would ask for about 25%, and accept no less than 22%
I have proven I can do this and if they want me to build, develop, manage and train—they’re gonna have to pay for some hats.
If it comes down to the wire and I’m working 60+ hours a week, I don’t want to sit back and wonder, if I could have been better compensated for the work I do. As I’m driving home tacking on another 8-10 hrs to that week in commuting.
No, Sully they won’t buy out my lease *sad face* but will help with mileage—although right now it’s not always enough to cover gas, maintenance and insurance. Which is what it’s intended for, but it does cover gas.
Demand a privet coffee pot! And a 2lbs bag of your favorite been a week! Better to keep you up and awake at work! OK, I am not very serious about that one. Well…
Sully wrote:
Demand a private coffee pot! And a 2lbs bag of your favorite bean a week! Better to keep you up and awake at work! OK, I am not very serious about that one. Well…
I don’t drink coffee, usually.
BUT—if I did, I’d want 2lbs of of a local 30% Kona Blended Roast—it’s $25/2lbs and it’s delicious!!!
So I KNOW coffee but I don’t drink it—
Congratulations
Seems to me that they think very highly of you and they know your capable of doing the job. So show them that they are right and DO YOUR THING GIRL.
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