I must know, are the generations that are coming up gonna be strong enough?
If bullying, so called (since the classic bully involved threat of physical harm) on the internet can reduce them to tears, depression and suicide, and words and name calling are legit reasons to call the cops, what are they going to do when faced with real adversity?
I am not trying to stir it up, just expressing my thoughts on this, and also thinking how it flows into the prevelant politico-economic climate these days. I hear that they are putting people on trial to decide who to blame for the economic crisis. Come on, who to blame..this is like blaming society for the Columbine shootings all over again.
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Man I worry about this so much but even more so I worry that all kids want to be are WAGS and popstars or thugs. Who’s gonna be our doctors and nurses and politicians?
Cakes;-) wrote: Man I worry about this so much but even more so I worry that all kids want to be are WAGS and popstars or thugs. Who’s gonna be our doctors and nurses and politicians?
The worthless ones will kill themselves. The others will grow up just like everyone else.
I empathise with you. They are mattoids, they are looking to the mass media for the truth and they believe the governments in charge are taking care of them. They are holding their hands out like spoiled children.
its a progression. I am 35, and was raised by my grandparents up till the age of 11. I saw their generation, and was a step closer to what used to be called The Greatest Generation. I see the difference..Its all Harry Potter and Miley Cyrus, when it used to be John Wayne and Lassie.
A-K-S wrote: its a progression. I am 35, and was raised by my grandparents up till the age of 11. I saw their generation, and was a step closer to what used to be called The Greatest Generation. I see the difference..Its all Harry Potter and Miley Cyrus, when it used to be John Wayne and Lassie.
A-K-S wrote: its a progression. I am 35, and was raised by my grandparents up till the age of 11. I saw their generation, and was a step closer to what used to be called The Greatest Generation. I see the difference..Its all Harry Potter and Miley Cyrus, when it used to be John Wayne and Lassie.
I am eighteen. Would just like to say that my experience in regards to depression had nothing to due with bullying, but I have seen how ‘cyber-bullying’ can really break a person down, my little sister for instance. She is fifteen in February.
Miley Cyrus is terrible.
Harry Potter was a good read, nothing wrong with an immersive book.
I think that perhaps the difference between past generations is that we are handed a lot and given lots of options straight of the bat. Cell phones, television, independance. I think that the modern lifestyle sucks a lot of surprise, excitement and joy out of living. Developing a certain numbness to living? I think, anyway.
I worry about how I am going to afford a place of my own.
Mas 1st wrote: Poor things we have created a lovely mess for them to live in and and denied them a decent enough education to have the tools to fix it.There are still enough rich kids to be politicianss/lawyers/doctors and they don’t get bullied. You had more chance of escaping poverty in the 1950’s than you do now.The EMO kids do study a lot so I dont worry about their education but I do worry about the state of their minds/bodies. The Scene kids are all about how they look so they will work hard to spend their lives buying new clothes. The ‘normal’ kids are the ones who are going to have trouble buying a house, even joining the army (which used to be a way out) is all that hot an idea as we have started so many useless wars that they are going to have to contend with for years to come.And to cheer us all up our kids are so badly fed and lacking in exercise there is a fair chance we are going to outlive them anyway. The countries where kids are still educated and not living on Big Macs - that’s who will be running the show in years to come.
Scary but true, this is why I don’t want to have children, I wouldn’t want them (and their children) living in tomorrow’s society. Is it too late to fix this?
I’m about to make a rant about that little c*nt. I am so sick of seeing her everywhere. She only has ONE LOOK! ONE smile, that’s IT! And it’s everywhere! Arrrrg!
But I’ll save it for the rant, I’ll save it for the rant…
I look at my generation and say wow 2012 here we come not…. this gen is a group of morons that listen to the TV and vote for people that they have no idea why thy are voting for them and are voting for them for things they cant do. cyber bulling is the most absurd thing and the fact that if a guy touches my gf inappropriately i can get sued because i punch him. I am very tired so disregard my spelling but the fact is that there is nothing that this generation will acomplish other than the distrution of the human race
Mas 1st wrote: Poor things we have created a lovely mess for them to live in and and denied them a decent enough education to have the tools to fix it.
There are still enough rich kids to be politicianss/lawyers/doctors and they don’t get bullied. You had more chance of escaping poverty in the 1950’s than you do now.
The EMO kids do study a lot so I dont worry about their education but I do worry about the state of their minds/bodies. The Scene kids are all about how they look so they will work hard to spend their lives buying new clothes. The ‘normal’ kids are the ones who are going to have trouble buying a house, even joining the army (which used to be a way out) is all that hot an idea as we have started so many useless wars that they are going to have to contend with for years to come.
And to cheer us all up our kids are so badly fed and lacking in exercise there is a fair chance we are going to outlive them anyway. The countries where kids are still educated and not living on Big Macs - that’s who will be running the show in years to come.
The more I hear you talk Mas 1st, the more I listen:)
Economic crisis’, terrorism, global warming.. I think that human beings should be cybernetically enhanced from now on. Eventually there will be a new generation of SUPER babies that will be intelligent, motivated enough and physically able to fix the crumbling world.
lol
Xeno.
Anon, maybe don’t blame this generation for potentially accomplishing the ‘distrction of the human race’, but rather how society and modern life has developed to cause the way that the world is today.
fletcher wrote: I am eighteen. Would just like to say that my experience in regards to depression had nothing to due with bullying, but I have seen how ‘cyber-bullying’ can really break a person down, my little sister for instance. She is fifteen in February.
Miley Cyrus is terrible.
Harry Potter was a good read, nothing wrong with an immersive book.
I think that perhaps the difference between past generations is that we are handed a lot and given lots of options straight of the bat. Cell phones, television, independance. I think that the modern lifestyle sucks a lot of surprise, excitement and joy out of living. Developing a certain numbness to living? I think, anyway.
I worry about how I am going to afford a place of my own.
I agree with you, what the advertisers are selling is not what life is suppose to be. You are very aware for 18 fletcher:)
And it sucks, Xeno, I actually like Billy Ray as a a person
As for the rest, I can see that my sentiment is not mine alone, but what can we do. I look at my little brother, Bobby, and wonder.
He is 22, and was raised by my mom and stepfather. He was sheltered, privliged, and no one took any active measures to teach him or guide him in life. Currently, he has a good job, makes great money, and owns nothing but some video game systems and a stereo. He has no concept of money or property, and absolutly no moral compass.
Fletcher, I am afraid that is what everyone seems to be waiting for..and outside solution, such as the “super babaies”, even thought i know you are joking.
But there is no outside help..this is something we, all of us, have to try to fix. Next time you can pass on a lesson about life, do so, even if you siffer riducle at the hands of a teenager…
Maybe the lesson will stick, and whats the harm?
Modern Life, as you call it, is not a sentient being, moving and growing on its on, it is a gesalt of humanity, and we control it, not the other way around.
fletcher wrote: I am eighteen. Would just like to say that my experience in regards to depression had nothing to due with bullying, but I have seen how ‘cyber-bullying’ can really break a person down, my little sister for instance. She is fifteen in February.
Miley Cyrus is terrible.
Harry Potter was a good read, nothing wrong with an immersive book.
I think that perhaps the difference between past generations is that we are handed a lot and given lots of options straight of the bat. Cell phones, television, independance. I think that the modern lifestyle sucks a lot of surprise, excitement and joy out of living. Developing a certain numbness to living? I think, anyway.
I worry about how I am going to afford a place of my own.
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Good post.
I agree with you. What the advertisers are selling is not what life should be about. You are very aware for 18, fletcher:)
sorry:(, my last reply was showing my lack of sleep.
mumstheword wrote: “The worthless ones will kill themselves.”Nice society we are building that considers some human beings “worthless”?
If they’re defective to the point that they hurt themselves so badly that their body doesn’t work anymore, than yes, they were worthless. We do not need those genes added to the breeding population. This is natural selection.
last thought…Children are not helpless bystanders in their lives. I was a children once, and had some stuff to go thru. And after my grandparents died, no guidance. Somehow, I came thru okay, if a little scarred and bruised.
People used to say how strong I was to survive and recover from the stroke and my childhood. WOW, form my perspective its just how it is, you tough it out, or you dont. You do not hope for someone to fix it for you, and you sure dont waste time trying to asign blame.
mumstheword wrote: “The worthless ones will kill themselves.”Nice society we are building that considers some human beings “worthless”?
If they’re defective to the point that they hurt themselves so badly that their body doesn’t work anymore, than yes, they were worthless. We do not need those genes added to the breeding population. This is natural selection.
I can’t help being reminded of the defective populations wiped out in Nazi Germany. The philosophy under that regime was also one that felt defective genes needed to be wiped out. I had hoped we’d learned something from those dark days.
I think (and this is just me thinking outloud so it may not make any sense) that part of today’s problems comes from us (this generation) wanting to make it a better place for ‘our’ kids, so we gave them stuff, told them not to take crap from anyone (including the police, teachers or adults) told them they deserved better and that they should get it (perhaps without the effort that use to be there). So now, they do just that. They EXPECT the world to treat them right and give them a living. They don’t EXPECT to work for it. I hope, seeing the mess we’re currently in, the NEXT generation will revert back to how things USE to be, when people respected their elders, teachers and police, and things were tough so you worked hard and it made you a better person.
This post makes me feel very guilty for wanting to be a musician, instead of a politician.
Yes Aks, we all control it and have certainly have the power to change. Is it fair that that responsibility seems to be aimed on younger people? Thats up for debate I suppose. Would you devote the rest of your life to changing the world for the better right now, any of you? Do it. I guess people are all a little selfish and only really willing to seek out their own happiness or passions.
Aks is right Mas. I think that no Father comment is untrue. No offence, you have your opinion.
i believe emotions that kids or young adults have today have been around forever, they are just more in the spot light today thanks to the internet. Just as these young adults have these negative emotions, there are equally enough young adults with good emotions out there as well.
When the future generations are faced with adversity, what will they do?
They strong willed ones will rise up like always and take control and do what must be done.
A sad post indeed AKS… I will not be part of the attitude that would seemingly bring such a world to bare.
Mine is an attitude not of ignorance or denial, but of hope, love and change. My daughters will not be the foolish or the ignorant… my daughters will not be sucked into a pit of despair and hopelessness. They may have to contend with the ‘Mad max’ environment the very attitude of this post is creating but at least they will be ruling that world… not struggling in it.
THATS another one thats got to go. Idea I mean, that we are all special and important and worth something, just cause we draw breath.
I value each life the same, honestly, but not each indivitual. Can you honestly say that the child murder or rapist should be valued the same as the fireman?
fletcher wrote: Thanks Soul.This post makes me feel very guilty for wanting to be a musician, instead of a politician.Yes Aks, we all control it and have certainly have the power to change. Is it fair that that responsibility seems to be aimed on younger people? Thats up for debate I suppose. Would you devote the rest of your life to changing the world for the better right now, any of you? Do it. I guess people are all a little selfish and only really willing to seek out their own happiness or passions.Aks is right Mas. I think that no Father comment is untrue. No offence, you have your opinion.
Hey a d#mm good musician gets heard, remember Bob Marley, or was he a politician:)?
mumstheword wrote: “The worthless ones will kill themselves.”Nice society we are building that considers some human beings “worthless”?
If they’re defective to the point that they hurt themselves so badly that their body doesn’t work anymore, than yes, they were worthless. We do not need those genes added to the breeding population. This is natural selection.
I can’t help being reminded of the defective populations wiped out in Nazi Germany. The philosophy under that regime was also one that felt defective genes needed to be wiped out. I had hoped we’d learned something from those dark days.
Difference here: no one is killing them. They only die if they want to. No one is hurting anyone else, there is no oppression, and there’s not much we can do to stop them if they’ve made up their minds anyway.
Richard, I wish, with all my heart, that children has someone like you as a fahter or father figure, because then they could have the center rock to hang all their morals and strengths on.
But man, to ignore it cause its an unpleasent thing to think about…I cna think of hundreds of paralells in history, and they all ended badly
fletcher wrote: Thanks Soul.This post makes me feel very guilty for wanting to be a musician, instead of a politician.Yes Aks, we all control it and have certainly have the power to change. Is it fair that that responsibility seems to be aimed on younger people? Thats up for debate I suppose. Would you devote the rest of your life to changing the world for the better right now, any of you? Do it. I guess people are all a little selfish and only really willing to seek out their own happiness or passions.Aks is right Mas. I think that no Father comment is untrue. No offence, you have your opinion.
Hey a d#mm good musician gets heard, remember Bob Marley, or was he a politician:)?
Hehe. Well, music inspires, entertains, draws swelling emotions not felt much elsewhere and does generally help many individuals throughout their daily life. n.n
Bob Marley is a biiig person to contend with, heh. =P
Remember, thats why i said it was progressive.. it evens out every generation, but it always levels out just a little worse than the one before. I am not as strong or as good a person as my forefathers.
“They only die if they want to. No one is hurting anyone else, there is no oppression, ” Xeno.
I have to disagree with you on that. What of the Megan’s of the world or the Brighton teenagers who knew of no other way to stop the oppression ? They weren’t simply “emos”. Far from it. Just ordinary kids from ordinary homes.
Like I said… I’m not ignoring or denying anything… my children will be prepared for anything. But our conversation should not today be look at were the world is going… and then proceed to spell out the shadows, the sewage and slime of tomorrow. The discussion should be how each and every one of us the responsibility to the plant and to each other to what what can do to bring about positive change around us. It’s not too late. We are all connected, and trust me the Earth itself will join in that fight.
Today’s dream becomes tomorrow reality… just as easily as today’s nightmare becomes tomorrows reality.
fletcher wrote: We are all individuals, the lack of a father might not be the only factor contributing to them not ‘learning’ how to ‘be men’ anymore.
Dont mind me Fletcher - I am just mad at myself for spoiling him when he was younger, had my Dad been alive he would have stopped me in my tracks. My boy thinks being rebellious is not straightening his hair before school. There is a policy of non-intervention by the Mod AKS. Pleased to meet you - I am the Mod lol
If he’s feeling REALLY adventurous he could not wear a tie! Heehee. *sarcasm* =P
Well, not every father is a disciplinarian. My father is quite strong in making sure that I don’t become isolated, am out doing things, and clean up after myself. My mother has spoilt me all my life. I see and think about what my father tells me, I appreciate what my mother does for me. My sister does neither. She abuses my mother’s kindness, and screams unfairness no matter how right my Dad is in telling her off.
Its a mystery, the old psychological nature vs. nurture debate? Is she genetically inclined to be selfish? We’ve been raised the same really.
I was bullied as a child.. I had no father, in a time and place where that was strange, I greww up white in a black town, in the 70’s, my mom was known as an easy lay, and i was poor.
oh, and the bullies where i was used sticks and fists.
Yet, somehow, I lived, did not kill myself.
amazing how i have lived almost 13,000 days now and somehow managed to avoid killing myself.
RICHARD, you are right, I did say something to that effect earlier, but it got lost in the babble.
A-K-S wrote: He is 22, and was raised by my mom and stepfather. He was sheltered, privliged, and no one took any active measures to teach him or guide him in life. Currently, he has a good job, makes great money, and owns nothing but some video game systems and a stereo. He has no concept of money or property, and absolutly no moral compass.
Fletcher, I am afraid that is what everyone seems to be waiting for..and outside solution, such as the “super babaies”, even thought i know you are joking.
But there is no outside help..this is something we, all of us, have to try to fix. Next time you can pass on a lesson about life, do so, even if you siffer riducle at the hands of a teenager…
Maybe the lesson will stick, and whats the harm?
Modern Life, as you call it, is not a sentient being, moving and growing on its on, it is a gesalt of humanity, and we control it, not the other way around.
proper cyber bullying I think can be bad-but name calling and general bitchyness I don’t think should effect peopel this bad. Although I don’t know what to blame it on?
Exactly. Well said Richard. “each and every one of us the responsibility to the plant and to each other to what what can do to bring about positive change around us”
If people are happy to accept “that’s just how it is cos that’s how it was for me” , then they condemn us to living with the negatives.
I think our children are more spiritually aware than any other generation before them. The 60’s was close, but the drugs took them off the natural path. They question, and inspire… they do not settle. Yes, there is weakness, but there is so much creativity and beauty also. They literally have the world at their fingertips… they are connected. They know (or are learning) not only are they spiritually connected they know they are logistically connected.
There are too many variables in a lives experience and genetic make-up to comprehend really. I’m willing to not dismiss the possibility that a lot of minds are quiet frail now compared to yours Aks. Whether that be DNA or your life’s journey, or both.
A-K-S wrote: last thought…Children are not helpless bystanders in their lives. I was a children once, and had some stuff to go thru. And after my grandparents died, no guidance. Somehow, I came thru okay, if a little scarred and bruised.
People used to say how strong I was to survive and recover from the stroke and my childhood. WOW, form my perspective its just how it is, you tough it out, or you dont. You do not hope for someone to fix it for you, and you sure dont waste time trying to asign blame.
Hear:) Hear:) Take responsibility and make a difference!
I sometimes wonder what would happen if all the “Good” people stood up together and said I’m not buying what your selling anymore.
ohhh AWESOME!!! i love seeing my name in a post hahaha
anyway
my generation like when i was a teenager the internet was just starting for the household and within a year after using the internet i had some bully’s on the internet but they weren’t real life people i knew in real life so it never affected me and i was a bully right back because it was the internet and i could say anything i wanted!
as for real life, growing up in middle school i had a female bully who used to love hitting my head as she walked by me or throwing dodge balls in my face
once after i started highschool and grew boobs it all quit it also stopped because i had enough and started asking what their problem is, like why hit my head my head has never done anything to you…they generally quit and i think now it doesn’t matter what they did to me because their the ones either sitting in jail or have 10,000 babies with 11,000 choices of daddies on welfare
Richard cor de lyon wrote: I think our children are more spiritually aware than any other generation before them. The 60’s was close, but the drugs took them off the natural path. They question, and inspire… they do not settle. Yes, there is weakness, but there is so much creativity and beauty also. They literally have the world at their fingertips… they are connected. They know (or are learning) not only are they spiritually connected they know they are logistically connected.
Haha, Aks.
That sounds true Richard. Perhaps it is just that they don’t find excitement or desire in all of the options that they have?
fletcher wrote: We are all individuals, the lack of a father might not be the only factor contributing to them not ‘learning’ how to ‘be men’ anymore.
Dont mind me Fletcher - I am just mad at myself for spoiling him when he was younger, had my Dad been alive he would have stopped me in my tracks. My boy thinks being rebellious is not straightening his hair before school.
There is a policy of non-intervention by the Mod AKS. Pleased to meet you - I am the Mod lol
Mas, I have a son like that too, my son cuts his own hair and is retreated from the real world.
Look, Mas, others, I dont mean being macho tough, i mean resiliant. Able to ride out troubles, to hold to your principles, or let them change when you see a good reason to.
not John Wayne the cowboy, but John Wayne the man.
I volunteer with the teens at church… and with the local Juvenile Probation Dept. I seem them at both ends… and they the exact same problems. The difference is the amount of support they get for those problems.
only think i’ll do is if they come to me and ask for help, i’m not going to go out of my way to help i have no sympathy for suicide
teeeens needs to realize that suicide isn’t the answer and they need to know their puney brains aren’t developed fully yet thats why their having babyish self pity thoughts
A-K-S wrote: Poor Dani’s headand cool that Rich remembered my last nameI started doing very limited volunteer work again, with teens. What are you all gonna do?
I’m spilling my soul on help. Sometimes I think the all black helicopters that circle my house are coming for me:) Let em come:)! The “Truth” is amazing.
fletcher10# AU | 1 year ago (1 hour, 6 minutes after post)
Dani, I have never indulged in self-pity. I tried to come to terms with, understand and change how I was feeling for years. I believe that you have no sympathy for suicide because you have never experienced mental illness.
fletcher wrote: Dani, I have never indulged in self-pity. I tried to come to terms with, understand and change how I was feeling for years. I believe that you have no sympathy for suicide because you have never experienced mental illness.
nope, i haven’t if i ever do maybe my mind will change, but for now i don’t
dani, I have always had the attitude that I could take on the world. But the internet is teaching me that it is bigger than me. Mwwwwwwwwww is learning how to be “politically” correct. I tend to tell it like it is and don’t like small talk. You and I have watched and avoided each other:) LMFAO:)!
fletcher wrote: Dani, I have never indulged in self-pity. I tried to come to terms with, understand and change how I was feeling for years. I believe that you have no sympathy for suicide because you have never experienced mental illness.
nope, i haven’t if i ever do maybe my mind will change, but for now i don’t
I agree with Mas that erosion of discipline has led to much of our difficulties. And the idea that “I have the right to do as I please” is exactly the one that allows disrespect for fellow human beings to get out of hand.
It is all fine and good to blame a younger generation of people for the situation we are in now.
The questions that you should be asking is what are you going to do about it. Quite frankly every generation before has complained about the upcoming generation. My dad used to get ridiculed because he had a beard. I would never have been able to live in peace as an inter racial couple a few years back. In some countires, we had no environmental protection and the rivers actually burned at times. There was child labor. I have no desire to go back to that world.
So, the up coming generation needs to learn to fight for what it needs or wants. Well there’s nothing like an econmic melt down to make that happen.
For any one to state that someone is worthless when they are a product of the environment they have grown up in… is completley rediculous. There are people out there everyday trying to save those in less fortunate positions. It would be so easy to let those kids be invisible, but that is giving up. I respect those of you on here looking for a solution. If you impact just one kid’s life positively, the world is already getting better. This hopeless desperation needs to go away or there will be no change.
So now as one famous politician once said, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Take that phrase and apply it to your neighborhood. To the kids that you can have a positivie influence on. Make a f*****g difference.
fletcher10# AU | 1 year ago (1 hour, 19 minutes after post)
mumstheword wrote: I agree with Mas that erosion of discipline has led to much of our difficulties. And the idea that “I have the right to do as I please” is exactly the one that allows disrespect for fellow human beings to get out of hand.
It makes me cringe when I see people being disrespectful. I honestly don’t know how you can develop to do that naturally, without guilt, or consequence.
Dani, you have the right to voice your opinion. Your lack of empathy gets to me sometimes, but then thats my issue really. You have the choice to explain your views more gently, however, hehe.
and if you do ever decide to do what you said in your suicide post, can i join you?
Hmm… maybe if you can figure out a way to mix in something that would make it even better. I have a few things in mind, and if you suggest one of them, or something even better, you win… everything.
fletcher10# AU | 1 year ago (1 hour, 24 minutes after post)
I would want to be shot out of a shuttle in an astronaut suit into outer space. Oxygen would run out eventually, you’d pass out, suffocate, whatever. Floating in space and looking at Earth would be great, Xeno. Beats sky diving?
“So now as one famous politician once said, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Take that phrase and apply it to your neighborhood. To the kids that you can have a positivie influence on. Make a f*****g difference. ” BFree
I might have phrased the last bit slightly differently ;) but basically, I kind of hope that this website was what help.com is mostly about. Doing stuff to help others. Be it emotionally, with guidance on homework, guidance on life choices, pet care, how to fix a puncture, ideas for a party… Oh.. and interesting political debate of course!
It has to be one of the easiest ways of making a difference.
It can be. And it is a great tool. But there is so much that we need to be doing locally. There is always something that we can do. The smallest gestures could be huge in someone else’s life.
It is too easy to lose that human touch on-line. It is too easy to rant.
But then we are connected and the globe just gets closer.
Who knows. I come here because I have a need to make a difference. If I am not making one, then I try to find someone that I may be able to help. I never really know if I do. I can only hope and try.
Then I try to do the same thing where I live. I currently have a house full of kids that are not mine almost everyday. I give them a safe haven, and make them earn it. Then they go home. I can only hope that the generosity, care, and respect I have shown them and demand in return will make a difference to them. I make them do their homework. Tell them they are too smart to be messing up their future. That the world is hard, but they are strong enough to face it. I make them call their mom’s to tell them where they are at. Not so much because I think their mom’s worry about them, but to remind their mom’s that they are out there. They would not be at my house if their mom’s were avaialble to them.
I don’t let them in until I am home from work, so they sit in my drive way shooting hoops wating for me to come home. MY kids and I sneak away for “family” time, but find ourselves discussing our exteneded family.
I know not everyone has the ability to do this. But, there is always something that you can do. Even if it is to be a good role model. Or to open a door for someone. It really is aobut being responsible for your own actions and teaching respect.
hard to tell from your picture
haha. But taking responsibilty for ourselves is a central theme with me. Ourselves, and our actions, and the consequences of those actions.
When you state that you were not as strong or as good a person as your forefathers. I truly have to question that. I think there was some awful stuff that our forefathers did. My kids talk to me in ways that I would never have talked to my parents. But then, they are free thinkers. I throw it all at them, conservative, liberal, atheist, christian, buddhist, etc. you name it. I make them earn their beliefs. Or, their frustration. But at least I know they are not going to be numb with the inablity to have an individual idea. And not be scared to stand alone in a room if it is the right thing to do.
However, because I do this, and I have met others that do this. I am not afraid of my future. I have hope.
I lost focus on that. If you mean preparing kids for the adversities of life, then BFree is right. Act locally and do something like volunteering at a street-kids programme (which you do) or teach. All too many people condemn poor education.. so do what needs to be done to support good teaching and weed out the bad. Become a school governor. (Not sure if you have those in US but they are ordinary citizens who advise and help lead schools). Raise funds to allow youngsters a few opportunities to steer them away from the drug dealers and the conmen. Set up a Young Enterprise scheme to show them what the world of business holds for them (I think you might be good at that).
Making a difference.. yes, I try. It’s the non-triers that often make the biggest critics. Don’t you think? You clearly try. You volunteer. I daresay you’ve heard a few “what’s the point’s” because you do too.
Some get so bogged down in debating it, they never actually get around to doing it.
Mum…I do get a lot of “what’s the points” But I have to admit, I don’t really volunteer. I just take a risk and open my mind and heart. I do this in my own home in my own neighborhood. Not through any formal program.
There is a toll on my house at times, then I get the “I told you so’s” But the value of a lamp over a kid is not even worth debating. It’s all a matter of perspective.
But in general when people say “what’s the point” I usually say becuase you have already given up.
AKS, the PTA is a joke. I have never seen a functional one. They are good for fundraising, but that’s about it.
Therein our problem with schools A.K.S . But I bet those that don’t get involved moan loudest?
Teachers NEED parents and carers to speak up about what the kids need. They’re the ones who know them best! How can a team ever win if the whole team doesn’t pull together on some things at least?
“Kick donkey” is slightly different to “kick a..s” . You go in with aims and ideas and a plan. Subtly different to shouting and hollering and giving attitude, if you know what I mean.
LIFE is about taking responsibility for our Self. To constantly look to others or outside our self and placing blame there for our problems is to be a victim to life. Sorry… that’s not for me.
Richard cor de lyon wrote: LIFE is about taking responsibility for our Self. To constantly look to others or outside our self and placing blame there for our problems is to be a victim to life. Sorry… that’s not for me.
I agree with you Richard, I have always been a take the bull by the horns kind of girl:)
If no-one tells you your efforts are worthwhile, you cease to believe they are.
If people tell you you are not worthwhile, you begin to believe you’re not.
Self-respect also means learning where the boundaries are living with what’s coming you’re way if you cross over them. If the boundaries constantly shift, there’s no hope of understanding.
Without rules, there is an open door for anarchy.
Random thoughts whilst dipping my biscuit in my tea…
Mas 1st wrote: Just a small aside. A lot of the children in this world are lacking fathers. That shows itself in many ways. Boys aren’t learning how to be men any more.
And girls aren’t learning to be protected & cherished, and to value themselves beyond being sex objects.
Ell♥ Pants wrote: proper cyber bullying I think can be bad-but name calling and general bitchyness I don’t think should effect peopel this bad. Although I don’t know what to blame it on?
Calll me wimpy, but name-calling and general bitchiness really gets me down. :(
Ell♥ Pants wrote: proper cyber bullying I think can be bad-but name calling and general bitchyness I don’t think should effect peopel this bad. Although I don’t know what to blame it on?
Calll me wimpy, but name-calling and general bitchiness really gets me down. :(
Yes but thats the point, it shouldn’t but it does. No idea why.
Here’s one or two young people (18) that is going to be strong enough to deal with just about anything! Why?… not because they were picked to sing a song at graduation… but because they believe in the words they sing.
I think we have to acknowledge that not all those who say they are self-harming really are… but the fact is we have to ASSUME that they are! We have to react responsibly to those sorts of posts for the sake of those that do self-harm who may be invisible but reading.
Yes, you’re right Mas. Neglect is a massive factor. But some parents are also beaten back by the idiocy of “the system”. For example, an eight yr old shows signs of self-harm and troubled behaviour. His parents rope in the school to help.. they inform the LEA.. who arrange an appointment months down the line with a psychologist… who sees the lad on a good day and declares its a personality clash.
Three changes of school later, at 16, he is finally diagnosed with a serious disorder which requires strict routines of medication. Only there is no method of distributing that medication because Health and Safety rules will not permit teachers to do so any more and not all schools have a full time nurse. Mum does her best to turn up to school three times a day to do it but can’t work under those circumstances. The family can no longer afford the extra-curricular activities the young lad needs and the government has refused additional funding. Teachers cannot run them voluntarily without falling foul of yet more bureaucratic rules. One day, said lad fails to receive medication on time and cracks. A teacher is hurt, the boy is expelled and on the streets.
At 18, the lad is no longer entitled to an educational psychologist or any formal support of any kind and is deemed adult enough to deal with his own problems magically overnight.
Just an example. But a real case and one of hundreds like it.
Ell♥ Pants wrote: proper cyber bullying I think can be bad-but name calling and general bitchyness I don’t think should effect peopel this bad. Although I don’t know what to blame it on?
Calll me wimpy, but name-calling and general bitchiness really gets me down. :(
Yes but thats the point, it shouldn’t but it does. No idea why.
yeah, amazingly much considering that it’s a virtual world …
I am visiting America from down under. I’m not sure if it is ignorance or weak people but my sisters kids seem to be strong enough to steal the neighbors obama signs :) hehehe They also have been filling blog pages with Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama Obama I don’t know if this is strength or craziness. I dont even know what Obama stands for, my mom said as far as she can tell, nothing. If my cusins are any example to you they will fight with anyone : ) I can’t wait to get away from them and go to the park or somethin. I no they are going to get me in trouble strength is not everythung. They should be kind to people and help others.
Mas 1st wrote: Wow - Richard - I got all teary - you must have been the proudest Dad on Earth (well maybe apart from God lol)- that was absolutely beautiful - thanks for putting it in this post - it gives it some balance - Mas
Are you kidding me? If you listen very carefully… (after someone yells I love you Becca) and right before Em and Becca start singing, you can hear a deep bellow… pretty much unintelligible on this recording… but that bellow is me; “I love you Emily” :) I had to be said :)
They are burning a mccain sign in the trash. next thing i will be soaking the house. strength is more than fighting the whole world, you americans are kind of scary and stupid. im sorry if i am mispeaking. Using your head is more important than your fist.
i dont hate either actually, i love my country. because im not american. and i dont hate religion, i just find it frustrating how no christian ever gives you a straight answer. i find quite a few other religions peaceful and soothing. so…i dont hate either.
thanks for assuming though, really.
(makes a quiet plea again for folks to recognise that serving country can also mean you are a doctor, negotiator or peace-worker.. they seem to get forgotten in this whole “who’s fighting who” battle)
Who knows, life may be ending as you know it. Our economy is totally crashing and it really sucks for most people that have a job that won’t survive. Well, this is turning into another great depression because we haven’t an idea for what needs to be done and stop this madness. By the way you need to see the movie Twilight!!! I am in love with Robert Pattinson, lol. Don’t respond to that please. There you have it, bye!!!!!
I reckon we are strong enough, I certainly know ours is the most violent generation. But weither its gonna do any good is the problem. Its not how strong we are, its how smart we are, which really is not at all. We need to be bother to properly survive, but I dont reckon enough of us are.
well they have to believe in god and ask for his help. How are you helping people, all the postings ive seen are saying oh the worthless ones will just kill themselves off, please explain how your helping anyone?
bwill1 wrote: well they have to believe in god and ask for his help. How are you helping people, all the postings ive seen are saying oh the worthless ones will just kill themselves off, please explain how your helping anyone?
what the hell are you on about? do you read many of the posts on this website? do you know anyone on here? you obviously havent been on here long enough to realise that people on here do help others. what do you do? damning people like that? besides you have no right to judge, that is reserved for god himself, not you.
thats better! I like what you have to say but if you can see there are people on here that seem to be very negative and dont seem to be doing any good.
Im not here to fight with people, I just had a question myself, and read a few things on here that i couldnt believe, and thought it was wrong, dont mean to judge” I got myself into something I dont want to be in, I dont even know what the site is about, just passing through, if you read some on this posting tho its not nice things.
TheJDevil wrote: nope, my generation won’t be strong enough. maybe ill move to the UK.
Not a good idea JDevil. This place is going down the shitter to be fair mate. ITs horrible here, no jobs, lack of money, lots of violence. even worse than the states. go somewhere like australia, they got it right over there :-S
zip-in-time wrote: my son is 19 and i really worry about him,but when i want to look for insperation in todays youth i look to the men and woman who are in the armed forces and over there fighting for their country most are very mature about what they are doing,and even grateful to be doing it.they make me proud to be an american
Please explain in what way being in Iraq is “fighting for their country.”
zip-in-time wrote: my son is 19 and i really worry about him,but when i want to look for insperation in todays youth i look to the men and woman who are in the armed forces and over there fighting for their country most are very mature about what they are doing,and even grateful to be doing it.they make me proud to be an american
Please explain in what way being in Iraq is “fighting for their country.”
Yeah. America is defending itself from Iraq like Hitler was defending himself from Poland.
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