Oh my god…
i’m killing Amon, I just know it! What I mean is, I can’t help him and I feel like I’m making things worse. I feel terrible. No one has any idea how much I care about him.
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I feel it too. I don’t know how to help in that case either. :(
I just… UH! I want to help him, but it frustrates me and kills me at the same time. He won’t except anything I say. He doesn’t have any idea of how much I care.
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
I just… UH! I want to help him, but it frustrates me and kills me at the same time. He won’t except anything I say. He doesn’t have any idea of how much I care.
Tell him that…
I feel that you care.
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
I just… UH! I want to help him, but it frustrates me and kills me at the same time. He won’t except anything I say. He doesn’t have any idea of how much I care.Tell him that…
I have, a million times!
Then, can you explain a bit more what the situation is all about? what happened?
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ahhh i know. i feel a need to help him too.. i just dont know how yet. he doesnt seem to want to accept anything we say.. he doesnt think that things can get beter but they CAN! its possible if he just has faith
but dont think youre making it worse because youre NOT making it worse. seriously. youre doing your best to help him and thats all that counts
Little by little… it’s tearing me apart. It’s killing me.
you can’t save/help someone unless they want you to.
You’ve got to convince him that you care and that you can help. Surely, he has noticed your persistance in his posts, that you wont take no for an answer, that you will be there to support him through it.
You even make a post saying that you cant help him as much as you would like. What more is there you can do?
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
Little by little… it’s tearing me apart. It’s killing me.
i know the feeling. i feel like that with someone on here as well. i dont know what to do. it hurts
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
Little by little… it’s tearing me apart. It’s killing me.
Went through the same… you and angel aren’t alone lol
What is he trying to do?
Which is the problem?
that’s the only way I can help you….
but just continue to try your hardest.. like yoda said you cant save or help someone unless they want you too. you can only help to a certain point and the rest is up to them
I know what you mean -_-. I don’t even know what to say to him. Doesn’t help that I have no clue what’s going on with him.
Maybe if you continue to persist he will see a glimmer of hope … and you could be the one to show him that.
JahRadio wrote:
I know what you mean -_-. I don’t even know what to say to him. Doesn’t help that I have no clue what’s going on with him.
he made a post about it.
how about we all wirte good things about him here, then invite him. it might be a good way to show him just how many people really care about him
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
What is he trying to do?Which is the problem? that’s the only way I can help you….
He has low self-asteem
He’s depressed
He cuts
He feels it’s his fault for this girl dying
He thinks he’s ugly and will never find love
He wants to kill himself… and yeah, that’s pretty much all of it summed up.
Don’t feel like that.
You should know that you’re helping him, it’s not your fault.
Amon’s been on this site longer than you, many people have tried to help him.
Just keep tring.
And don’t let this affect you that much.
αиgєl♥ wrote:
JahRadio wrote:he made a post about it.how about we all wirte good things about him here, then invite him. it might be a good way to show him just how many people really care about him
I know what you mean -_-. I don’t even know what to say to him. Doesn’t help that I have no clue what’s going on with him.
Yeah, I read that post. Forgot about it. The one with the story right?
Well…most of those are the way the problem is shown, and the problem seems to be love and only that..
Get the problem from it’s root, and everything ends…
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
Well…most of those are the way the problem is shown, and the problem seems to be love and only that..Get the problem from it’s root, and everything ends…
he says that the main cause of his anger is the girl… he loved her and she died. he blames it on himself and he says because of that there is no way to change the root of his problems cause he cant bring her back
Yeah man, that’s rough. It bugs me because I don’t know the right thing to say to him to make him see that his life is precious and valuable, and that he has as much a right to love and happiness as everyone else. That he deserves it as much too.
exactly. no one deserves to die… you can change your life around! he just needs to try to make things better by having faith and believing in himself..
Amon-
You’re poetic even in the short sentences you type
You have a beautiful soul that I can see just by what I know about you
You’re generous comments on my poetry have helped keep me alive
I can’t stand hearing you in pain… each word about your pain is like a dagger to my heart, and I don’t know what I’d do if you never came on here again
If I had even just one wish… I’d wish that people like you were happier and could see how much I care about you
I have even prayed before for you… and I’m not a religious person, at all
You are one of the reasons that I am still here
Love,
Hannah
Then the problem is love…
He needs to accept the fact that she isn’t coming back, thinking that it’s just stupid…
Then if he starts to move on, there will be other chances, you need to revive his lost hopes…
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
Amon-You’re poetic even in the short sentences you typeYou have a beautiful soul that I can see just by what I know about youYou’re generous comments on my poetry have helped keep me aliveI can’t stand hearing you in pain… each word about your pain is like a dagger to my heart, and I don’t know what I’d do if you never came on here againIf I had even just one wish… I’d wish that people like you were happier and could see how much I care about youI have even prayed before for you… and I’m not a religious person, at allYou are one of the reasons that I am still hereLove,Hannah
mmm…nice, poetic, but I don’t know if that will bring back his lost hope to find a new love…
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
Then the problem is love…He needs to accept the fact that she isn’t coming back, thinking that it’s just stupid…Then if he starts to move on, there will be other chances, you need to revive his lost hopes…
The way he feels and thinks may seem stupid to you, but it isn’t stupid to him. It is important to him, and I don’t think telling him that it is stupid is going to help.
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
◊Cassie◊ wrote:mmm…nice, poetic, but I don’t know if that will bring back his lost hope to find a new love…
Amon-You’re poetic even in the short sentences you typeYou have a beautiful soul that I can see just by what I know about youYou’re generous comments on my poetry have helped keep me aliveI can’t stand hearing you in pain… each word about your pain is like a dagger to my heart, and I don’t know what I’d do if you never came on here againIf I had even just one wish… I’d wish that people like you were happier and could see how much I care about youI have even prayed before for you… and I’m not a religious person, at allYou are one of the reasons that I am still hereLove,Hannah
Why don’t you let him read it and decide? o.O Jaysus, judgy much?
bookworm16 wrote:
2511 ♥ you! wrote:The way he feels and thinks may seem stupid to you, but it isn’t stupid to him. It is important to him, and I don’t think telling him that it is stupid is going to help.
Then the problem is love…He needs to accept the fact that she isn’t coming back, thinking that it’s just stupid…Then if he starts to move on, there will be other chances, you need to revive his lost hopes…
He needs to realize that it’s that way, and that thinking like that isn’t going to help him, in anything….
JahRadio wrote:
2511 ♥ you! wrote:Why don’t you let him read it and decide? o.O Jaysus, judgy much?
◊Cassie◊ wrote:mmm…nice, poetic, but I don’t know if that will bring back his lost hope to find a new love…
Amon-You’re poetic even in the short sentences you typeYou have a beautiful soul that I can see just by what I know about youYou’re generous comments on my poetry have helped keep me aliveI can’t stand hearing you in pain… each word about your pain is like a dagger to my heart, and I don’t know what I’d do if you never came on here againIf I had even just one wish… I’d wish that people like you were happier and could see how much I care about youI have even prayed before for you… and I’m not a religious person, at allYou are one of the reasons that I am still hereLove,Hannah
Bothered by my opinion? I’m so, so sorry…
Not really. Just that, you’re not a professional yet you state your opinions like they’re facts.
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
Then the problem is love…He needs to accept the fact that she isn’t coming back, thinking that it’s just stupid…Then if he starts to move on, there will be other chances, you need to revive his lost hopes…
Like that.
Yoda wrote:
you can’t save/help someone unless they want you to.
Perfectly said Yoda. ^^
Amon-
you are a wonderful person but you just don’t realize it. you need to have faith in yourself. believe you can do it and you will. we all care about you so much… persoanlly i’d fel lost if you did anything to yourself. i’d feel guilt, sadness, anger and shame at myself for not being able to help you. its just hard to find the right words to say.
you need to know that we’re all here for you in this and we’ll never walk away.
you will find love again if you just look for it. you cant blame yourself for the death of your girlfriend. itwas an accident and it wasnt your fault in the slightest. please keep holding on, cause even though it doesn’t seem like it, life is worth it.
im reaidng a book right now called “Impulse” in it, a girl is writing a poemabout the rpobelms shes going through. this part in the poem reminded me of you :
“my happiest memories
have no place in the past;
they are those i have yet to create”
Please be okay.
Lots of love,
Lisa xoxo
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
… I feel bad now.
Yeah, he just basically insulted what you put your heart into. I don’t know if he realizes it, but that comment was really dismissive of what you wrote.
don’t feel bad Hannah! you’re helping as much as you can. youre putting Amon before yourself and i can tell that you really care about him..
we need more people in the world like you.
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
I really can’t do anything for anyone.
yes you can! thats not true. youve helped me so much
You can have faith and believe in that person.
2511 ♥ you wrote:
He needs to realize that it’s that way, and that thinking like that isn’t going to help him, in anything….
He needs to come to realise it in his own time for him to believe it, you stating the fact isn’t going to change how he feels, and neither is saying how he feels is stupid.
You shouldn’t feel bad Cassie, you are doing everything possible to support and help him. You are being an amazing friend and the world would be a better place if there were more people like you around.
youve just been there for me… someone to talk to. you’ve hlped out on a bunch of my posts to. you might not feel the same way but i consider you on one of my closest friends on here… youre so caring and likei said we need more people in the world like you. you may not notice it but youve helped a lot of people on here… you just dont realize it. you should be proud of yourself though.
JahRadio wrote:
Not really. Just that, you’re not a professional yet you state your opinions like they’re facts.
2511 ♥ you! wrote:Like that.
Then the problem is love…He needs to accept the fact that she isn’t coming back, thinking that it’s just stupid…Then if he starts to move on, there will be other chances, you need to revive his lost hopes…
So?
It’s the way I think things are, and for me, it’s reality, maybe for you it isn’t…
Also, you’re judging too lightly who I am, and the way I think, and if you don’t want to consider my opinions as facts, then don’t, it’s up to you to decide and have the final word…geez
Another thing, I love judging…
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
I really can’t do anything for anyone.
You’re getting in the same things he’s…believe me, try not to do so…
You helped me… You told me I was one of your best friends on here. Made me realize that someone here cares, ya know? Even though I haven’t shared anything really personal, you still care. That touched me.
αиgєl♥ wrote:
youve just been there for me… someone to talk to. you’ve hlped out on a bunch of my posts to. you might not feel the same way but i consider you on one of my closest friends on here… youre so caring and likei said we need more people in the world like you. you may not notice it but youve helped a lot of people on here… you just dont realize it. you should be proud of yourself though.
Friend?
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
αиgєl♥ wrote:Friend?
youve just been there for me… someone to talk to. you’ve hlped out on a bunch of my posts to. you might not feel the same way but i consider you on one of my closest friends on here… youre so caring and likei said we need more people in the world like you. you may not notice it but youve helped a lot of people on here… you just dont realize it. you should be proud of yourself though.
yes. i consider you a friend =)
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
JahRadio wrote:
Not really. Just that, you’re not a professional yet you state your opinions like they’re facts.
2511 ♥ you! wrote:Like that.
Then the problem is love…He needs to accept the fact that she isn’t coming back, thinking that it’s just stupid…Then if he starts to move on, there will be other chances, you need to revive his lost hopes…So?
It’s the way I think things are, and for me, it’s reality, maybe for you it isn’t…
Also, you’re judging too lightly who I am, and the way I think, and if you don’t want to consider my opinions as facts, then don’t, it’s up to you to decide and have the final word…geez
Another thing, I love judging…◊Cassie◊ wrote:
I really can’t do anything for anyone.You’re getting in the same things he’s…believe me, try not to do so…
So ******* what??! Huh? Tell me! Explain!
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
Sorry… did I mention I’m a ***** too?
No you’re not, what makes you say that?!
Don’t think you’re the only who get through that ****….
wtf…
I got two times through that,
the first time my friend suicided, the second i almost did the same…
It’s not your place to judge 2511. And you’re not helping.
bookworm16 wrote:
◊Cassie◊ wrote:No you’re not, what makes you say that?!
Sorry… did I mention I’m a ***** too?
a what?
JahRadio wrote:
It’s not your place to judge 2511. And you’re not helping.
Dude, I went through the same two times…i’m someone who knows the drill…
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
Don’t think you’re the only who get through that ****….wtf…I got two times through that,the first time my friend suicided, the second i almost did the same…
Everybody is different, they deal with things differently. I’m sorry for what happened to you, and I’m glad you’re better now, but just because things happened to you and you are ok now, it does not mean that others that were in the same position would be.
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
JahRadio wrote:Dude, I went through the same two times…i’m someone who knows the drill…
It’s not your place to judge 2511. And you’re not helping.
Dude… no one goes through the same thing…
Whatever, best wishes…
I hope the others help, I’m already pissed off…not my best day
Sry that I couldn’t help you…
STOP!! I got everyone PMSing… this post is for Amon, remember?
bookworm16 wrote:
2511 ♥ you! wrote:Everybody is different, they deal with things differently. I’m sorry for what happened to you, and I’m glad you’re better now, but just because things happened to you and you are ok now, it does not mean that others that were in the same position would be.
Don’t think you’re the only who get through that ****….wtf…I got two times through that,the first time my friend suicided, the second i almost did the same…
I second that btw… all of it.
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
JahRadio wrote:Dude, I went through the same two times…i’m someone who knows the drill…
It’s not your place to judge 2511. And you’re not helping.
Dude, you saying that her poem won’t help him is just condescending and not helpful. Neither is calling his feelings stupid. If you know the drill stop wasting time on here trying to play the professional and go help the person we’re talking about.
okay people… stop arguing k? this started as helping someone and now its just turning into an arguement… so lets focus on what we’re here for
Now that’s sorted … maybe we should get back on topic?
WTF everyone! Stop… yeah it made me feel bad… but I’ll get over it. I’ve gotten over a lot of things before… why is this any different? Let’s just stop and get back on the right track.
αиgєl♥ wrote:
okay people… stop arguing k? this started as helping someone and now its just turning into an arguement… so lets focus on what we’re here for
Okay, I started it b/c he was being rude to Hannah, so I’ll unsub as I’m not helping anymore either.
JahRadio wrote:
αиgєl♥ wrote:Okay, I started it b/c he was being rude to Hannah, so I’ll unsub as I’m not helping anymore either.
okay people… stop arguing k? this started as helping someone and now its just turning into an arguement… so lets focus on what we’re here for
thanks for looking out for me, really.
JahRadio wrote:
αиgєl♥ wrote:Okay, I started it b/c he was being rude to Hannah, so I’ll unsub as I’m not helping anymore either.
okay people… stop arguing k? this started as helping someone and now its just turning into an arguement… so lets focus on what we’re here for
nooo i wasnt blaming anything on anyone. i was just saying we need to help her =)
αиgєl♥ wrote:
JahRadio wrote:nooo i wasnt blaming anything on anyone. i was just saying we need to help her =)
αиgєl♥ wrote:Okay, I started it b/c he was being rude to Hannah, so I’ll unsub as I’m not helping anymore either.
okay people… stop arguing k? this started as helping someone and now its just turning into an arguement… so lets focus on what we’re here for
I know =). I was just owning up to starting the argument in the first place.
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
JahRadio wrote:thanks for looking out for me, really.
αиgєl♥ wrote:Okay, I started it b/c he was being rude to Hannah, so I’ll unsub as I’m not helping anymore either.
okay people… stop arguing k? this started as helping someone and now its just turning into an arguement… so lets focus on what we’re here for
No problem =). That’s what friends are for. Even when they derail your post XD.
Thanks guys. It feels good to be thought of as a friend.
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◊Cassie◊ wrote:
Thanks guys. It feels good to be thought of as a friend.
no problem =)
Its very cliche Cassie, but you cant help those that wont help themselves, but its very true, the person has to have the strength to fight for himself.If the problems are that bad, he should seek professional help. You are being a friend by standing by him, he knows this deep down but he has to fight for himself and get out of the fog he is in.
Depression takes hold and he wont get out of it without fighting.
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
Hey, 2511… want to come back?
What for? lol
I almost killed myself two times, I lost my best friend because of I couldn’t handle the situation, I almost lost someone I rly love not so long ago, and all that in less than 4 years…all that just to be told all that…seems that I?m not the only who’s judging JahRadio
See!
The fighting stoped!
Am I genius what?
2511 ♥ you! wrote:
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
Hey, 2511… want to come back?What for? lol
I almost killed myself two times, I lost my best friend because of I couldn’t handle the situation, I almost lost someone I rly love not so long ago, and all that in less than 4 years…all that just to be told all that…seems that I?m not the only who’s judging JahRadio
I just want you to come back so we can talk
anyways Hannah. hopefully anom will see this when he comes online. i have invited him.
but he will see how many people truley care about him, and how muchwe all want to help him.
The correct grammer is “anyway” anyways is not suppose to be used. But thanks. lol
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
…
Meanie…
αиgєl♥ wrote:
Nante wrote:totally!
See!The fighting stoped!Am I genius what?
Thanks!
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
The correct grammer is “anyway” anyways is not suppose to be used. But thanks. lol
Oh okay…
Anyways
You cant worry too much.
like angel said he will come here and see how much you care
Nice Nante!!! Cassie. I know how much you realy care. I too have tried to help him, as have others here. I just don’t know what words will work anymore. He is in deep depression and grief. Without him seeking help, I don’t know what his future holds. What are the magic words???? I wish he would at least consider our advice. This is so very sad, frustrating, and confusing to me. I so want to help him but he just closes himself out to that, and all other possibilties and suggestions :(
For using anyways… not for what you said. I thank you for that.
seas light wrote:
Nice Nante!!! Cassie. I know how much you realy care. I too have tried to help him, as have others here. I just don’t know what words will work anymore. He is in deep depression and grief. Without him seeking help, I don’t know what his future holds. What are the magic words???? I wish he would at least consider our advice. This is so very sad, frustrating, and confusing to me. I so want to help him but he just closes himself out to that, and all other possibilties and suggestions :(
Yeah, I know…
◊Cassie◊ wrote:
seas light wrote:
Nice Nante!!! Cassie. I know how much you realy care. I too have tried to help him, as have others here. I just don’t know what words will work anymore. He is in deep depression and grief. Without him seeking help, I don’t know what his future holds. What are the magic words???? I wish he would at least consider our advice. This is so very sad, frustrating, and confusing to me. I so want to help him but he just closes himself out to that, and all other possibilties and suggestions :(Yeah, I know…
At least Amon is stil talking on here, takes courage to keep coing back, every post, shout, answer.. truth is I can’t do magic tricks, or go to where ever Amon exactly is (mentally & physically) and drag his *** against his will into the nearest place to force him into breaking the cycle he’s in.
My hope is that you’ll be able to hold on and keep fighting Amon, no matter how dark it get’s in this bitter winter keep talking - I won’t give up, I’ll keep listening.
Thanks sigurros. I like you a lot. You’re very helpful, and it makes me feel good that you care.
Amon wrote:
You’re not making my problems worse. If anything I’m happy for the few seconds I see your words.
REALLY?!
That means so much Amon. Just to hear that I may make you happy… even for just a half a second, it makes me feel so happy.
I’ll do everything I can to live a good life, and to help you.
Amon wrote:
Don’t worry about me.
I can’t help it… I just have to.
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