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The brink of economic depression.

A little over a month ago there was a massive storm cloud hanging over our heads. Congress was actually working on a weekend (how often does that happen?), trying to print up enough truckloads of cash to make the money-jugglers on Wall Street smile again. I started watching too much news, gloom and doom flanked by Cialis and Cymbalta ads.

For those of you who know me, you may remember that for months I’ve been trying to figure out how to either revive my flagging home-based business or to decide on a new career. I have always been decisive, but after a series of mistakes I’ve been frozen. I started spending time on here instead of working or writing (which is my dream career).

Then this economic crisis hit, and I realized I was on the edge of an economic crisis too. There’s a time to live your dream and take big risks, and then there’s a time to make sure you can feed your kids and buy winter coats for them. This is the latter. I started looking for a job. Big shock. I have 27 years in a career that’s highly specialized, but not that much in demand. And it seems there’s not much else out there unless you know programming languages. I have kids who aren’t even close to college yet. I still need to work for decades. TV news anchors kept throwing out the phrase “Worldwide Depression” and I felt myself slipping toward a very personal one.

I haven’t been clinically depressed since the early 90’s, but I’ve teetered at the edge of it a few times. Anyway, a month ago I could actually feel a sinking, a turning down, a deflation of spirit. Back in the 90’s I went to counseling, took Prozac for a few months and pulled out of it. In recent years if I felt myself slipping into negativity, I just tried to remember that my brain chemistry seems to go in cycles, that serotonin levels would pick back up and I would feel better eventually. But this time it felt like I wouldn’t pull out of it without counseling and meds. And I don’t have anything against that if it becomes necessary, but for me the situation would have to be dire.

I don’t know how many of you have ever flown a plane (as opposed to flying in one). When you are ascending you have to maintain enough airspeed, otherwise the aircraft will stall (as mine did when I ran out of gas in a plane at the age of 19, but that’s another story). When the plane stalls the nose turns down and you start to descend. How the pilot handles that moment can determine whether he or she lives or dies. During the stall, if you do what you were already doing, pulling back on the yoke (the steering wheel) you may go into a spiral. The plane will spin nose down until you smack the ground. Or, if you stop pulling and push down on the yoke instead and allow the plane to stall, it will pick up speed and you can then ease back on the yoke and glide. Gliding is still a descent, but not a downward spiral. It allows you to buy some time while you search for a place to make an emergency landing.

Fighting depression, or the onset of a depression as was my case, is similar. At least for me it was. I had to change my approach. Instead of watching the news and worrying about which direction I should take next, which class I should take, which certification I needed, I thought back to some of the things that have brought me happiness in the past. They were writing, designing graphics, listening to upbeat music, contacting people I hadn’t seen or spoken to in a while, exercising, walking my dogs and playing with my kids. I turned off CNN.

I believe it’s possible to change the chemical balance of one’s brain without meds. Sometimes there’s no other way, but medication isn’t always the way. I started feeling better and when I feel good, ideas flow.

Then last week circumstances began to catch up. I made progress on a children’s book I’m writing, I thought up an idea for a non-fiction book and designed a variety of covers for it. I found out my golden retriever is pregnant (puppies available by New Years!). I set up a lunch meeting with a company that may partner with mine to benefit both of us. And at the end of the week I went on a date, possibly the start of a relationship. This week has been productive in writing. I went on a field trip with my kid’s class and saw dolphins up close on a beautiful sunny day. My biz lunch is tomorrow.

And I have a plan for re-educating myself so that if the various projects I’m working on don’t catch, I’ll have more marketable skills. I’ll enroll in classes to learn key programming languages, get IT and teaching certificates, and possibly apply to law school for next fall.

There was one huge mistake I did make over the last month. For weeks I turned in on myself. I didn’t admit to anyone that I was struggling. I didn’t tell anyone here. Didn’t tell family. I’m all the time advising people on help.com (esp. the suicidal teens) that they need to seek help from their families who love them. These last few weeks have reminded me of how hard that can be to do. Like a hypocrite I didn’t take my own advice. I didn’t call on my family-family and I didn’t call on my help.com family either. To all of you, I’m sorry that I let pride keep me from asking for your help.

To those who shouted or emailed me.. Kim, Setto, Greeneyes, Fizz, Smoogie, Red Sky, Shie (those chain emails drive me crazy but you send the best dirty jokes), Miss Enigma, Libragirl, Sasha, Mas.. thank you. A little shout makes a big difference.

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Sans offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 57 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (5 minutes after post)

I is.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (6 minutes after post)

Had to click your profile to see who you are Hazel. When did you become a fosil?

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 minutes after post)

Two kinds of antibiotics. I’ve been puking a lot.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (9 minutes after post)

And so became fosilized a little.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (10 minutes after post)

Lovely. Antibiotics helping?

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (10 minutes after post)

I am here anytime you are having feelings of despair. Best in luck to all your future endevers :)

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (10 minutes after post)

yes one more week. so nice to see your dog eyes.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (11 minutes after post)

thanks seas.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (11 minutes after post)

Fosilized Version wrote:
yes one more week. so nice to see your dog eyes.

At least they’re working. Then you’ll be Hazel again? Good to see you too.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (12 minutes after post)

wow, you were one of the first people who showed me making friends here is fun!

I wish I had some magic panecea…but alas…I’m left wondering where I hid my stash of such things!

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (14 minutes after post)

I smoked some magic panecea in the 70’s. Fixed everything. For two hours.

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c-eek offline Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 15 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (1 hour, 9 minutes after post)

Great to read about how a smart person deals with adversity. Sometimes we only need to address the problem internally, in a pro-active way. If you had needed help, I am sure that you would have known it and asked for it. Congratulations and welcome back!

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Regina, SK, CA | 1 year, 1 month ago (1 hour, 35 minutes after post)

wow, I’ve been away too for abit… hun economy is hurting everyone, just do the best you can.

Writing isn’t as easy or as glamorous as it is made out to be. BUT, keep at it and if it is something you love to do, then do it! My life long passion has finally paid off! ( Yours will too! Just you got a give it your blood sweat and tears, and never give up… unless God steers you elsewhere!)

My book made someone cry! She said it was so well written… well when you have God at your side, giving you that nudge, and lending His insight, then nothing can hold you back, not even the economy…

I write children’s books too… and fiction… Sounds like you and I have a weee bit in common… shoot me an email if you need to bounce ideas off someone.

Love to hear what ya got so far!

srnityblu(@)yahoo.com

Glad you turned of cnn… it’s too much time infront of the boob tube anyway…

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Regina, SK, CA | 1 year, 1 month ago (1 hour, 35 minutes after post)

I love your post by the way… well said!

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (2 hours, 10 minutes after post)

I didn’t realize you were gone, because I’ve been gone, my own self. I’ve had a few serious financial downturns too, and discovered that for the first time in over a decade I just can’t afford to carry on the same way I have been. I haven’t had to work outside the house in so many years I don’re remember what it’s like! And worse, for the first time in my life I’m actually finding it hard to find a job. :(

Please know that you aren’t alone in these troubles. There are many people here who do care about you, and we’re willing to listen and provide what support we can anytime you may need it.

If I’m not on site, you may email me anytime. dl at artisanssquare dot com

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Pretoria, 06, ZA | 1 year, 1 month ago (3 hours, 27 minutes after post)

Glad you are back. And VERY glad that you started writing again! Thought there was something wrong. We are all thinking of you and crossing thumbs. Everything will be allright and keep CNN off. You need to concentrate on your own situation and forget the others.
Do you think puppies can fly? HIHIHIH

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (5 hours, 20 minutes after post)

Very well said, truth is I stoped watching any news for one month, for my own sanity :)and now that I know that you are (for) not against dirty jokes, check your email I love them too.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (5 hours, 35 minutes after post)

sansceriph wrote:
I smoked some magic panecea in the 70’s. Fixed everything. For two hours.

Being from the Caribbean, we smoke other things LOL! Haven’t done that in soooo many years Hmmmmmmmmm nooooooo Hmmmmmmmmmm :)

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (5 hours, 55 minutes after post)

Sans, thanks for sharing that and well said. We all have our ways of coping with what life deals us at times and the important thing is that you picked yourself up again. How admirable that you have that insight into yourself and can learn from what comes your way. I’ve said before that everything happens for a reason, I truly believe that.

I’m just glad you’re feeling better and more in control of your life. So long as you know that you do have friends here and true friends understand when you need some time and distance even when it’s pride that stands in the way of asking for help. You gotta do what you gotta do and Sans, you did it on your own, there is value in that just as there is value in all things.

I wish you much success and missed ya! Welcome back :)

Oh and can you forward me those dirty emails?! :D

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (6 hours, 10 minutes after post)

Sans, I cant get this smile off my face, so happy for you. I knew you were struggling but didn’t know to what extent. It sure didn’t show in these pages. And I can soooooooo relate to the pride thing,If you havent seen it, trust me, its an issue.lol But I wouldnt worry about it, life has a way of humbling us whether we want it or not. From what you said I see a very promising future indeed, Much happiness, many puppies,he he, and you doing what you love, Kudos buddy :) Oh, i love your writing, would buy anything you wrote and If you dont know already I agree meds are not always the answer, these things can be overcome with perserverance and simple things like exercize. Great having you back :)

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (7 hours, 42 minutes after post)

As I said on another post, to make the decision to stop watching the news was the best thing I ever did. I seldom read newspapers any more either. The media reports everything on the downside, when was the last time you watched the news and felt happy and elated at what you’d heard ?? We watch and then we carry the depressing news around in our minds for hours or days thereafter.
I’m a firm believer in the fact that, we control what goes on in our own minds, if we put negative thinking there, then that’s how we feel negative. If we can see the positive in things and put the,bad to one side it helps. We are all if you think about it put down by others, if we come up with what we think is a good idea, people at times pull us down by saying “oh that probably wont work”, so we give up on our dream and what we thought was possible, what we should be saying is, “I can, and I will!” When you think about it, what controls our every move? its our thoughts isn’t it, the way we think can truly change our lives. :-)

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 hours after post)

Thanks everyone. I sometimes wonder how many members here are dealing with problems but never post about them.

I think that for a lot of writers, even those who have had financial success at it, we want feedback but have difficulty hearing criticism, even the constructive kind. Someone says ‘that was excellent, you did this right and that right and I loved such and such, but you could have done this better’. And all we hear (what I fixate on anyway) is the part they didn’t like. I worked nine years on a novel and was married to someone who, though she said she liked it, viewed its value in part on whether or not it would bring us income. When it didn’t, that blew my confidence that I should pursue my dream. It has taken over a decade since I self-published (and lost money) for me to decide that I don’t give a **** what anyone thinks, I’ll write to please myself or whatever creative voice that drives that desire. My motto now is “just write”.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 hours, 12 minutes after post)

Many are dealing with problems and don’t post them ;)

I think that’s awesome and keep writing, you have a gift for it. It shows in your responses here and your posts. A knack for words, a proficient penman lol.

We all tend to be our own worst critic. Confidence in ourselves and our creative works is most often times the hardest thing to muster up…the courage to be ourselves and not care what others think or say. You’re the one living your life.

Just write and just be.

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Sasha101 offline Verified User (1 year, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 hours, 15 minutes after post)

You see Sans, now you have it, go with the positive thoughts, ignore the negatives :-)

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 hours, 23 minutes after post)

Also thanks Babacup for shouting. If I forgot to mention anyone else, sorry.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 hours, 24 minutes after post)

srnityblu wrote:
My life long passion has finally paid off!

That’s good to hear!

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (8 hours, 44 minutes after post)

:D Glad you’re back.
We missed you! I mean it’s odd because usually with a post people will give you the answers but it’s like you already did that part hehe ^.^
I think you’re a very clever dude and you should write many, many books.
The news is horrible, propaganda and shock images. I never watch it and when someone else is and I’m there it makes me much angry to see it all.

*calls off the specialized search team*
“is ok we found him”

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Gloversville, NY, US | 1 year, 1 month ago (9 hours, 41 minutes after post)

first off…. glad to have you back… you were really missed..

second.. you have to realize that giving advise is sooooooooooooooo much easier than taking it… even when we know deep down what we should do or shouldnt do..

third… hehehehehehe…. glad you like the dirty joke ones.. and i wont send you the chain emails.. lmfao.

youre a great friend sans… and you keep me rolling with laughter…

so happy that your life seems to be getting a bit better… you so deserve it.. best of luck to you in all that you do and may you succeed at everything you have in goal… love shie.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (10 hours, 44 minutes after post)

well sans i do soo hope you pull it through

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (11 hours, 15 minutes after post)

{quote Sans]I thought back to some of the things that have brought me happiness in the past. They were writing, designing graphics, listening to upbeat music, contacting people I hadn’t seen or spoken to in a while, exercising, walking my dogs and playing with my kids. I turned off CNN.

Then last week circumstances began to catch up. I made progress on a children’s book I’m writing, I thought up an idea for a non-fiction book and designed a variety of covers for it. I found out my golden retriever is pregnant (puppies available by New Years!). I set up a lunch meeting with a company that may partner with mine to benefit both of us. And at the end of the week I went on a date, possibly the start of a relationship. This week has been productive in writing. I went on a field trip with my kid’s class and saw dolphins up close on a beautiful sunny day. My biz lunch is tomorrow.[/quote]

Great post (good writing, too!) Part above is the crux of the solution and results it seems. Wow. Maybe you had to go through your depression to find your solution. Other people’s suggestions either seem too pat or they tempt you part of the way out of your depression, but don’t engage your creativity and your deep-down sense of what’s missing and what to do about it.

Thanks for inviting, Sans :)

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (11 hours, 15 minutes after post)

oops … oh well

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (19 hours, 31 minutes after post)

now i wish i would have made myself shout you….

i missed you, Pops. and i am here ALWAYS if you need a friendly daughter.

:D glad you are back.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (19 hours, 45 minutes after post)

“pops” :)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (19 hours, 56 minutes after post)

he’s Pops to me…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (1 day, 10 hours after post)

Alot of us look over the brink at one time or another. I am happy you that you didn’t fall over yours.
Heres an idea for your book. SQUIRRELS ARE EVIL. They hang around in hoodies carry flick knifes and enjoy extorting money for protection. Even the foxes are scared of them.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (1 day, 14 hours after post)

Sans, I had no idea you were so troubled, I should have picked up on that and I am very sorry that I didn’t, I suppose my faith in you blinded me to clues that should have alerted me and I’m sorry for that, but I do have faith in you and that beautiful common sense that you have and I know that even if you are going through a rough patch you will overcome it because of who you are.

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Left offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (1 day, 15 hours after post)

That was lovely Fizz.

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Midvale, UT, US | 1 year ago (1 day, 21 hours after post)

Sans,
We all just adore you. I find you so sensitive and funny and wise all in one. I feel its true what you said above. Im sure there are many that do not talk of their serious problems for all their own good reasons and we turn inward. When you are forced to turn inward it is because fear and pain outward is too much to bear. But then you truly are alone.
You sound like you are on the right tract and being good to yourself and taking care of business. Your very creative and I believe in you. You are a man of purpose and I know things will go well. Good luck friend, I dont think you’ll need it but I offer it the same.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (1 week, 2 days after post)

So I finally got to my invite pile…
And as soon I saw a post from you, I thought that automatically made it a worthy read!
I won’t comment on your entire post at this point…
But I got excited when you mentioned your dream of being a writer!

This is a dream we both share… and I’m glad you have found some inspiration to write again. It is truly a gift to be able to write… and I look forward to discovering your works in a book shop some time soon! :D

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