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i was thinking of voting for him for a while too before i went back to obama
voting for him is wasting your vote

right well if he’s a candidate i’m pretty sure he’ll be on there

I voted him in ga so i hope hes on your ballot

*for him

Verum Causa wrote:
I don’t think I’d cast my vote for a candidate just because they are the only ones who have a chance of getting elected. I have to vote as my conscience dictates. Doesn’t matter if he or she probably won’t win.

Thats exactly why i voted for him :)

Yes, he’s on the NC ballot but I don’t know him, nor have I hardly EVER even heard of him.

You dont know obama or mccain either… O_o. Just what they want you to know

Exactly. To me it doesnt really matter who the voters vote for because in the end of the day the electoral college will determine who will be president of the us. So obama may pull in more votes but if mccain gets more electoral votes he will automatically win the election.

yes well i’m sorry i’m not voting for someone who won’t make it

Well if a lot of ppl vote for him without thinking about him being the 3rd party who has no chance in winning maybe he can…

I mean the reason he dont have a chance is because everyone thinks how you think.

good

No its actually sad…

You could go to your Gov website it should list whose on the ballot in your State, that’s what I did early on to research candidates in my state.

I think it’s cool that you are selecting your candidate based on your issues, sadly I agree with Dani that Barr doesn’t stand a chance because 3rd parties aren’t competative with the top two parties, I’ve thought throughout the election that Independents should really be ticked off about Obama breaking his word about campaign financing because that has made it more difficult for them to compete especially when they were not allowed to participate in the debates which I think is a travesty, but I am hopeful that in the future a 3rd party candidate will have a chance and will bust up the two party system. I just don’t think that is possible now at the Presidential level. I think what needs to happen with other political parties is that they focus on brand recognition and building a base, Libertarians have done a better job of that, especially this year, but they still aren’t there.

I might have voted for Barr if I didn’t think it was a wasted vote and if I agreed with him on most issues, I do like him on immigration more than the other candidates, but as you know I’m going with McCain because I think he’s the best choice overall and I just don’t trust Obama.

I SO agree with Fizz… Barr sounds like a good candidate but I too think it would be a wasted vote. It is a shame that Barr could not debate with the BIG boys but it wasn’t allowed. No I don’t know McCain OR Obama either but I do know that our country can not afford to give these oil tycoons 6 BILLION dollars in hopes that their richness will trickle downward, instead of watching them displace their money in other funds so their greedy butts won’t loose any of their money. Some has said that if Obama becomes president then many of the rich will transfer their funds overseas but isn’t this already happening? Heck, I could name a job or two loss to overseas, couldn’t you? Enough is enough… we need more, Made-In-America!

If you vote for a 3rd party it will be near a waste and I am curious… Why do you not trust Obama? Is it because he lied about not taking funds to be president? How could he compare to or get as noticed, if he didn’t? Maybe it’s his Hussein name?

Definately go ahead and vote. Like my dad always said, voting is your license to gripe for the next 4 years if your candidate didn’t win.

Now, now, there Verum Causa, you know that deep down you really do want to vote or else you wouldn’t care so much about about this topic. You seem smart, maybe just a little confused about whom to vote for. I too had this problem, until I looked at the larger life-size picture. Even as I took my child trick-or-treating tonight, not only did I noticed how many less porch lights were on but also noticed how many For Sale signs were in yards “6 on one street alone”. It was sad. Something has to be done, although “change” is scary, it surely can’t be any worse than what is already happening around us.

I too hope you will decide to vote and No matter what your voting decision is…

I’m sure you will make the right one.

Peace

Meh, Bob led the impeachment of president Clinton… the president who presided over the longest period of peace-time economic expansion in American history, which included a balanced budget and a $559 billion surpluss and left office with the hightest approval rating of any president since WWII.

Conservatives criticize Obama for his familial connections to ‘less than US friendly countries’.

Bob spent the first 18 years of his life in Malaysia, Panama, Pakistan, and Iran… while *I* don’t have a problem with this I could see conservatives being uncomfortable with a guy that went to High School in Iran.

Worked for the CIA (scary), appointed by Reagan as an anti-drug DA (up until 2007 he repeatedly used his position to prevent legalization of medical marijuana). As of 2008 he states that he supports the legalization of marijuana, but it is his bill… it’s even named after him, that currently prevents legalization. The 2002 legalization initiative was successful, but the Barr ammendment blocked it.

“During his tenure, Barr was regarded as one of the most conservative members of Congress.[30] In 2002, he was described as “the idol of the gun-toting, abortion-fighting, IRS-hating hard right wing of American politics”.[25″] -Wikipedia

He wrote and sponsered a bill to federally ban same-sex marriage.

He voted for the Patriot Act.

He voted for the war in Iraq.

He proposed that the military ban the practice of Wicca in the military (discrimination based upon religious preference)

He opposes abortion and has attempted legislation to make it illegal…
but he supported his wife’s decision to have an abortion in ‘83. I don’t think he should be attempting to ban abortions when it is pure hypocrisy for him to take this stance.

He used his legal priveleges during his divorce in ‘85 so he could refuse to answer questions on whether he cheated on his second wife with the woman who became his third.

Seems kinda’ shady to me.

I think Obama is the anti-Christ so i know He’s going to win and alll of you should know this too….. However, i think he is promising too much, he does not hav the resources to pull all of these off. While Mc-aainne(spelled like this on purpose)
is a well fabricated opponent, he lacks the intelligence to effectivly run anything, i wouldn’t him baby-sitt my pet rock let alone house sit america. in short in really comes down to actual realism, and to be realistic, we are doomed to be sat over by incompitence. so take your time and think of this as practice on using the voting machines because choas is in store for us, and in the end alot of people are going to be confused and shocked………

I agree with you about everything except for the anti-christ thing…. I dont think obama is the anti-christ nor do i think he is evil. I just dont think he can, like you said, live up to his expectations. To call someone the anti-christ is dumb to me because 1st. you dont know him personally, 2nd. you dont know him personally, and 3rd. you dont know him personally. If anything Bush a** was the anti-christ. He f**ked up every d*mn thing but i dont hear ppl calling him the devil. Only that hes a dumba**. Obama didnt even make office yet but he seems to be getting all the names in the book. I think he is a man who worked hard to get where he is and a strong man because it takes a man to marry a strong woman. Believe me, most guys (boys) cant take a strong woman, esp a strong black woman. Sooo i have much respect for him. I just dont think he can will make americans happy in time and i think he is more of a people pleaser than a leader, but i could be wrong. As a matter of fact, i hope i am wrong. I hope this man proves my accusations to be false and that he leads this country in the right direction. He is going to have to fix a lot of bush mess. So his victory will not last long (if he do win) because 1st ppl are expecting him to pull the troops out of iraq, then he has to worry about the horrible economy, then health care, next the middle class when it comes to taxes/job loss, social security, and gas/ energy preservation. So both of these men have a sh*t load of work ahead of them, which will not be fixed over night. If Obama wins i dont know how he will accomplish these things because his life will be in jeopardy 24/7 just because of his race. And if mccain wins america will be counting down the days to his death from natural causes due to old age and wondering if palin can actually run this country. (i dont think she can tbh)

Btw coalesce, ppl can change….

As to Obama, I’m not expecting him to be a Saint/Messiah/Savior, and neither do I believe him to be Satan/Anti-Christ/Manchurian-Candidate. If he stops the damage, that’s a victory as far as I’m concerned. Imagine the entire nation slowly sinking into the ocean, if this guy can stop the sinking… I’ll consider him one hell of a success. I don’t expect him to lift the nation to the clouds and shoot moonbeams and rainbows out of his ****.

Coalesce when i said ppl can change i was referring to what you said about Barr. Just in case you didnt know or misunderstood

I as well don’t expect Obama to shoot moonbeams and rainbows out of his rear (LMAO) but, Lets get real for a minute…
It is going to be hard to fix in four years everything Bush has managed to accomplish/fix during his eight years in office. This is the way it will be, no matter who wins. As far as Palin goes, I like her but agree that she needs more experience, yet I also believe that she was the best choice for a Republican VP. Many people are simply sick and tired of that party and I will be surprised of a win.

Honestly, I wanted to vote for McCain eight years ago but now we need “change” and a continuance of Republicans for four more years isn’t that in my eyes.

If Palin doesn’t become our next VP than she is surely needed as a Alaska Senator OR she could skip that and just run in four years to assure a win if things do not “change” but I have a feeling “change” is exactly what this country needs and cross our fingers for the best.

Makes me sick to see our gas prices lowered so much right before election time “jerks”, knowing it’s a temporary show. Don’t think it will work for them but, it might?

I was just talking about that with my mom. How the are only lowering the gas prices right before so we “think” there will possibly be a change but right after elections gas prices are going to sky rocket

I’m in tune to that too skyy and everyone else should be too… makes no difference who gets elected the gas prices will more than likely erupt after elections. I just hope everyone will be able to afford to stay warm this winter.

What about all of that is shell rock formation with PLENTY of oil in it? Why can’t we try to tap into that with something else other than the ground water? It’s all over the West OR maybe we should try to figure out how to tap into and use solar energy, considering that even plants only use only near 2% of solar to survive. We should put more studies into that, than putting so much money into figuring out how to keep an erection. “My opinion”.

Peace

Oil is running out, that’s a fact. Maybe not this decade or next… but it’s going away for good. We either need to accept the fact that oil will be limited/expensive, or we need to find energy outside of oil. I would only support increased drilling if we devote a large portion of funds aside for energy development outside of oil. If we keep tapping more and more, deeper and deeper and don’t find an alternative… when we are flat out, and have no other options… it’s going to get UGLY quick.

As to Barr, I have to judge a person according to what they’ve said and/or done. True, people can change. Hitler could have changed too, doesn’t mean we should have appointed him president just in case he changed. If a person makes poor choices… they are more likely to make poor choices in the future than not.

WOW… what a historical United States 2008 election!!! Obama wins… time for change is true! I’m extremely proud to be an American tonight!

BaRock me ObAmadeus!