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What do you expect from an Obama presidency?

Now that Obama is president elect, what to you expect him to do in the first year of his presidency?

Also if your answer is not easily measured; how would you personally measure his progress.

Further, will you be disappointed if he is not able to accomplish what you have indicated with in his first year? And if not how long will you give him before becoming disappointed?

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Da⌐11 offline Verified User (4 years, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 minute after post)

Mother of Peace wrote:
perhaps change ? lol

lol - yes now its time to define that change. What does it mean to you?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (9 minutes after post)

Mother of Peace wrote:

Da⌐11 wrote:
Mother of Peace wrote:
perhaps change ? lol
lol - yes now its time to define that change. What does it mean to you?

Education because there is absence of education in America .

Mother of Peace wrote:
100% of people who deny biological evolution , can’t even define it , seriously .

And do you believe Obama will be able to change these peoples opinions? and if he can’t will you be disappointed in him?

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Karma Amelia offline Verified User (4 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 21 #
An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (10 minutes after post)

Something to look forward to would be nice :)

What is Obama promising to do?

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Karma Amelia offline Verified User (4 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 21 #
An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (12 minutes after post)

what does “better health care” mean?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (16 minutes after post)

Mother of Peace wrote:
these kind of people do not have “opinions ” they are brainwashed to it ,in my school , they changed the Science to Catechism ….CATECHISM!!!!!!!

But do you think Obama will be able to fix this? and if he can;t will you ne disapointed in him?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (17 minutes after post)

Karma Amelia wrote:
Something to look forward to would be nice :)

What are you looking forward to? and what are you looking forward to in the first year of his presidency?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (19 minutes after post)

Mother of Peace wrote:
anyone , Obama is also promising better health care .

Do you think he will be able to accomplish this? Will he be able to accomplish this in the first year of his presidency? Will you be disappointed in him if he can not accomplish this?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (19 minutes after post)

Karma Amelia wrote:
what does “better health care” mean?

Thats a good question; how will we mesure that we have better health care?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (21 minutes after post)

Lol i have a feeling i inspired you to make this post ;)… i could be wrong but i doubt it lol

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (22 minutes after post)

skyy wrote:
Lol i have a feeling i inspired you to make this post ;)… i could be wrong but i doubt it lol

:P

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Karma Amelia offline Verified User (4 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 21 #
An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (24 minutes after post)

I’m literally looking forward to him telling us something he is planning to do, and then seeing it happen. Nothing specific. Would just be nice to feel as though he is answering the people

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (29 minutes after post)

Mother of Peace wrote:
Stop questioning , he just won the election , let’s wait and see what will he do .

It is my job as an American citizen to question my government to insure that it does what I and the rest of the citizenry expect it to do.

It is now time to set goals for our new government and measure their progress.

It would be remise of us to blindly follow the government. The government should be following us; but it can’t do that unless we set goals and measure its progress.

Do you not agree?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (31 minutes after post)

Karma Amelia wrote:
I’m literally looking forward to him telling us something he is planning to do, and then seeing it happen. Nothing specific. Would just be nice to feel as though he is answering the people

Good answer, but do you really think he is going to be capable of executing all of his plans? I dont think people should have high hopes of this man because everything that he is promising takes years. Even if he do start working towards his plans as soon as he get in office we might not see the good until after his term. He has to raise taxes because no matter who wouldve won they would have to increase. The health care plan will take years i suppose because change in america takes forever and a day.

So we will all see come 4 years from now and hopefully i will be in graduate school, in a healthy relationship, have a good paying job i enjoy, a good gpa, and just over all happy :). Oh and that my family is doing very well by then as well

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (33 minutes after post)

Mother of Peace wrote:

Da⌐11 wrote:
Mother of Peace wrote:
Stop questioning , he just won the election , let’s wait and see what will he do .

It is my job as an American citizen to question my government to insure that it does what I and the rest of the citizenry expect it to do.

It is now time to set goals for our new government and measure their progress.

It would be remise of us to blindly follow the government. The government should be following us; but it can’t do that unless we set goals and measure its progress.

Do you not agree?

Agreed but Good Gawd ! Can you at least wait for a week ?

Lol you all are sooo distracting im suppose to be reading!!!!!! lol But i cant get off of help.com! Ughh! lol

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Karma Amelia offline Verified User (4 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 21 #
An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (37 minutes after post)

If you don’t want to talk about it…don’t go to posts specifically about it lol. There are plenty of others!!

skyy wrote:

Karma Amelia wrote:
I’m literally looking forward to him telling us something he is planning to do, and then seeing it happen. Nothing specific. Would just be nice to feel as though he is answering the people
Good answer, but do you really think he is going to be capable of executing all of his plans? I dont think people should have high hopes of this man because everything that he is promising takes years. Even if he do start working towards his plans as soon as he get in office we might not see the good until after his term. He has to raise taxes because no matter who wouldve won they would have to increase. The health care plan will take years i suppose because change in america takes forever and a day.So we will all see come 4 years from now and hopefully i will be in graduate school, in a healthy relationship, have a good paying job i enjoy, a good gpa, and just over all happy :). Oh and that my family is doing very well by then as well

Capable, yes. The way I see it is Obama or Bush…I think that sentance speaks for itself.

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (38 minutes after post)

Mother of Peace wrote:

Da⌐11 wrote:
Mother of Peace wrote:
Stop questioning , he just won the election , let’s wait and see what will he do .

It is my job as an American citizen to question my government to insure that it does what I and the rest of the citizenry expect it to do.

It is now time to set goals for our new government and measure their progress.

It would be remise of us to blindly follow the government. The government should be following us; but it can’t do that unless we set goals and measure its progress.

Do you not agree?

Agreed but Good Gawd ! Can you at least wait for a week ?

what will change in a week? I’m sure Mr Obama will have the time to feel happy about his accomplishments whether or not we wait a week to state what our expectations are.

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Karma Amelia offline Verified User (4 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 21 #
An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (42 minutes after post)

As long as he is not as destructive as Bush then I’m happy ! (well its more complicated than that obviously but thats 1 point)

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (57 minutes after post)

Here’s some of what I expect:
A return to sanity
A return to the Family of Man
Leadership by an impeccable human being
Joy that enough of us have realized that skin color means nothing
A spirit of cooperation instead of competition & combat
A return to decency
Restoration of our Democracy
The pursuit of Peace

Please don’t try to shoot this down - I won’t be listening for a while.

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Rosabella offline Verified User (5 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 9 #
An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 hour, 1 minute after post)

And joy - a stunning, shining black family in the white house!!!!

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Karma Amelia offline Verified User (4 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 21 #
An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 hour, 2 minutes after post)

What do you mean by family of man?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 hour, 3 minutes after post)

Florie wrote:
Here’s some of what I expect:
A return to sanity
A return to the Family of Man
Leadership by an impeccable human being
Joy that enough of us have realized that skin color means nothing
A spirit of cooperation instead of competition & combat
A return to decency
Restoration of our Democracy
The pursuit of Peace

Please don’t try to shoot this down - I won’t be listening for a while.

Do you have any non subjective goals for an Obama presidency? Something that can be addressed rationally and measured?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 hour, 6 minutes after post)

give it up, Da⌐11 - I ain’t biting.

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Da⌐11 offline Verified User (4 years, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 hour, 6 minutes after post)

Florie wrote:
give it up, Da⌐11 - I ain’t biting.

So you then dont have any non subjective goals?

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4 years, 6 months ago (1 hour, 44 minutes after post)

Florie wrote:
Joy that enough of us have realized that skin color means nothing

I think some people got hung up on skin color from both sides, some voted for him mainly because he is black and some did not for the same reason. I wish more people could have seen past that and voted for real reasons.

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4 years, 6 months ago (1 hour, 45 minutes after post)

To me, skin color wasn’t the issue.

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 hour, 56 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
To me, skin color wasn’t the issue.

Do you have a goal for the new goverment?

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4 years, 6 months ago (1 hour, 58 minutes after post)

Not any more! LOL I had HOPES. :)

Sorry, I’ll leave this post if you want me to.

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (2 hours, 23 minutes after post)

Many are expecting this poor man to change things overnight, its not going to happen, this Country has taken such a bad hit in the past four years its untrue. To sort everything out and make life better could take years and more than Obama’s reign in office as he said in his speech. I’m not an American but I’m so glad he got in, we voted for him as did many others, I thought it was lovely to see blacks whites and all nationalities in Chicago all rejoicing to gether.I think he has the right attitude to get America back on track and once again being able to have the “American Dream” not fighting to put food on the table, losing the home they worked so hard for. I think his two cliches of “Yes we can” and “we need change” are great, before he can start to lead this Country he has to amend the mess the bush government has made, I say give the guy that chance.
Its lovely to see a young family in the Whitehouse too, young blood and a loving happy family, I think its refreshing, and I wish him every success in the next four years.:-)

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (2 hours, 47 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
Not any more! LOL I had HOPES. :)

Sorry, I’ll leave this post if you want me to.

No, I dont want you to leave the post :)

But even if Obama was not your choice, surly there is something you would like to see him do.

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An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (2 hours, 56 minutes after post)

Florie wrote:
Here’s some of what I expect:
A return to sanity
A return to the Family of Man
Leadership by an impeccable human being
Joy that enough of us have realized that skin color means nothing
A spirit of cooperation instead of competition & combat
A return to decency
Restoration of our Democracy
The pursuit of Peace

Indeed. Well said. :)

I expect it not to be easy for him, that’s for sure. He’s going to have a lot of eyes on him for a number of reasons. I was discussing this with a friend of mine earlier and the point was brought up that it’s rare for a president NOT to get a second term, however, I think one of those rare moments are a big possibility at the end of his first term. He’ll be judged on a lot, what he has done, what he hasn’t done, and whether or not the people are happy about it. He will have a LOT to prove before he’ll overly be accepted.

He’s been given the chance, and I highly applaud that. However, now he’s going to be expected to perform almost a miracle to some people. It will be a hard battle for him because of the mess he has to clean up, and if it isn’t substainsial enough, he’ll be blamed for it. He can’t be expected to fix everything, and there will be things he can’t within the first four years, if even both terms. Destroying something in 4-8 years is a lot easier than rebuilding and making ammends.

However, I do believe he will try his best, and he will do as much as he can to instill at least SOME of the expectations and goals put upon him. Like Sasha said, I wish him every success in the next four years. I’m extremely proud, and while I didn’t/couldn’t vote (I’m not in America) I still feel like I have a right to be proud. I think the whole world does.

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (2 hours, 58 minutes after post)

Sasha101 wrote:
Many are expecting this poor man to change things overnight, its not going to happen, this Country has taken such a bad hit in the past four years its untrue. To sort everything out and make life better could take years and more than Obama’s reign in office as he said in his speech. I’m not an American but I’m so glad he got in, we voted for him as did many others, I thought it was lovely to see blacks whites and all nationalities in Chicago all rejoicing to gether.I think he has the right attitude to get America back on track and once again being able to have the “American Dream” not fighting to put food on the table, losing the home they worked so hard for. I think his two cliches of “Yes we can” and “we need change” are great, before he can start to lead this Country he has to amend the mess the bush government has made, I say give the guy that chance.
Its lovely to see a young family in the Whitehouse too, young blood and a loving happy family, I think its refreshing, and I wish him every success in the next four years.:-)

Unfortunately (though that’s not the right word) the presidency and other government offices are performance based jobs. Obama will have to accomplish something in the first year of his presidency or he will loss the support of many people who gave him a chance to be their president. There will be another election in two years for congress and (right or wrong) if Obama does not perform the people will show their disapproval.

Give the guy a chance sure. But a chance to do what, how shall we measure his performance?

You mentioned the “American Dream”; how shall we measure the whether Obama has fathered the American dream?

You mentioned “food on the table”; how do we measure whether Obama has helped to food on our tables? We can expect that poverty rates to decline with in the first year of an Obama presidency.

You mentioned ” losing the home”. How do we measure this? We can expect foreclosure rates to drop with in the first year of an Obama presidency.

“Yes we can” and “we need change” are nice words but how do you quantify them, to insure that the new government is delivering what they promised?

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4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 4 minutes after post)

Improve the economy! (Don’t know how, though!) Just make it better! :)

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 8 minutes after post)

~Grace~ wrote:

Florie wrote:
Here’s some of what I expect:A return to sanityA return to the Family of ManLeadership by an impeccable human beingJoy that enough of us have realized that skin color means nothingA spirit of cooperation instead of competition & combatA return to decencyRestoration of our DemocracyThe pursuit of Peace
Indeed. Well said. :)I expect it not to be easy for him, that’s for sure. He’s going to have a lot of eyes on him for a number of reasons. I was discussing this with a friend of mine earlier and the point was brought up that it’s rare for a president NOT to get a second term, however, I think one of those rare moments are a big possibility at the end of his first term. He’ll be judged on a lot, what he has done, what he hasn’t done, and whether or not the people are happy about it. He will have a LOT to prove before he’ll overly be accepted.He’s been given the chance, and I highly applaud that. However, now he’s going to be expected to perform almost a miracle to some people. It will be a hard battle for him because of the mess he has to clean up, and if it isn’t substainsial enough, he’ll be blamed for it. He can’t be expected to fix everything, and there will be things he can’t within the first four years, if even both terms. Destroying something in 4-8 years is a lot easier than rebuilding and making ammends.However, I do believe he will try his best, and he will do as much as he can to instill at least SOME of the expectations and goals put upon him. Like Sasha said, I wish him every success in the next four years. I’m extremely proud, and while I didn’t/couldn’t vote (I’m not in America) I still feel like I have a right to be proud. I think the whole world does.

Every insightful. I agree with you Obama will have a tremendous amount of pressure to show positive performance by 2010 (congressional elections) and 2012 (his reelection) and for many that level of performance will be considerably high.

Change and hope are very hard things to promise during an election; they go to the core of people they mean more to people then just a tax brake or an incentive plan. They are also very subjective, my change and hope will no doubt be different then your change and hope making them difficult to deliver to everyone. He will have a lot of work a head of him.

But that is all the more reason why the electorate needs to set up clear goals for him. Now is the time to define our hopes and what we want to see changed. That way Obama will know what it is we expect of him, rather then just assuming it and then getting it wrong. It would also help us measure how well he is performing, that way when it does come time to grade his performance it wont be an impossible test based on emotion.

Do you have any goals for Mr Obama?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 11 minutes after post)

The Guy is going to be under a lot of pressure to perform, give him a chance, goodness he’s been voted in as President, he has no magic wand to wave he can only do his best like the rest of us, we have to wait and see as with all Governments.He has a big mess to sort out that he inherited from the last lot, just give him a chance :-)

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Anonymous wrote:
Improve the economy! (Don’t know how, though!) Just make it better! :)

Ok so if we put the how aside; how will you know the economy has improved. What signs would you like to see?

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 14 minutes after post)

Ok one goal which I know wont happen lol….
Change the gunlaws, make America safer there I said it, now wait for the responses :P

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 15 minutes after post)

Sasha101 wrote:
Ok one goal which I know wont happen lol….Change the gunlaws, make America safer there I said it, now wait for the responses :P

Yea I agree that wont happen. But it is a good example of a goal :)

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 19 minutes after post)

Yep a lot of crime here relies on Gun ownership, some will say “oh its not the guns , its the people that use them” take away the guns, NOBODY can use them, simple as that, the countries that have a no guns policy are more peaceful countries as a rule. Anyone that steps outside the usa has seen that. Americans shoot and kill their fellow man every day, and why ? because they can. Gone are the fist fights to sort things, now its oh get my gun out and kill , its all so wrong.

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An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 19 minutes after post)

Well, if you want to go for unrealistic goals. I say “stop thinking about the money the rich people are ‘losing’ snd focus on the economic parts who could use the help”.

The upper class, business class etc aren’t going to struggle all that much. (God forbid if Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have to switch from Armani to Gucci in a few months) It’s the working class and the lower classes that need it the most. They’re the ones needing better health care, they’re the ones needing to be able to struggle less through the recession.

Unfortunately, politics works with big business and upper class. Screw the little people.

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4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 22 minutes after post)

Da⌐11 wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Improve the economy! (Don’t know how, though!) Just make it better! :)

Ok so if we put the how aside; how will you know the economy has improved. What signs would you like to see?

People being able to keep their houses and get ahead financially. I know that is not entirely in the president’s control but I would like to see that.

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 23 minutes after post)

Yep Health care is a big one, everyone needs to be able to see a doctor when they have poor health, and not be scared of the Bills coming in, we have insurance but the bigger the bill the more we have to pay too. There are those out there that bill for procedures that never took place, maybe the insurance companies should take a look at that rip off to, that may save some money right there. Ive had it in my own treatment and have spoken to others that have seen it too. No wonder insurance keeps going up so that people cant afford it.

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (3 hours, 26 minutes after post)

Sasha101 wrote:
The Guy is going to be under a lot of pressure to perform, give him a chance, goodness he’s been voted in as President, he has no magic wand to wave he can only do his best like the rest of us, we have to wait and see as with all Governments.He has a big mess to sort out that he inherited from the last lot, just give him a chance :-)

Here is my thought processes of what you just said. You make the point “we have to wait and see as with all Governments” and I can’t bring my self to agree with that. I know why you are making this point, you are being a nice and kind person who has decided to be optimistic. And if we where talking about most any other thing I would be inclined to agree because for the most part I am a nice and kind person as well and I don’t want to see Obama or the country face any hardships.

But, Government should not be an entity outside of our selves. We the people should be the highest level in the Government. We should call all the shots and we should accept all the responsibilities. If you think of the country as a corporation, we the people are the CEO and we must make it known what we expect from our subordinates. We must direct the country. To “wait and see” takes us out of that leadership role. It makes us the followers. The followers hoping the government will do right by us.

That is a bad attitude to have when dealing with a government. Power corrupts; that’s why in all western nations power is suppose to reside in the hands of the people so as not to allow the government to get corrupt.

We’ve lost that power; we have happily taken a position of follower when we should be the leader. And it’s because we “wait and see” and hope for the best; when we should be setting goals and demanding better.

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Sasha101 wrote:
Yep a lot of crime here relies on Gun ownership, some will say “oh its not the guns , its the people that use them” take away the guns, NOBODY can use them, simple as that, the countries that have a no guns policy are more peaceful countries as a rule. Anyone that steps outside the usa has seen that. Americans shoot and kill their fellow man every day, and why ? because they can. Gone are the fist fights to sort things, now its oh get my gun out and kill , its all so wrong.

this is a bit off topic but..

Correct; here is the problem with your thought “take away the guns”

How do you possibly take away the guns? I’m afraid the genie is out of the bottle and the government will never be able to accomplish this feet. The best they could hope for would be to remove the guns from law abiding citizens and that will accomplish nothing im afraid.

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~Grace~ wrote:
Well, if you want to go for unrealistic goals. I say “stop thinking about the money the rich people are ‘losing’ snd focus on the economic parts who could use the help”. The upper class, business class etc aren’t going to struggle all that much. (God forbid if Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have to switch from Armani to Gucci in a few months) It’s the working class and the lower classes that need it the most. They’re the ones needing better health care, they’re the ones needing to be able to struggle less through the recession.Unfortunately, politics works with big business and upper class. Screw the little people.

Yes the middle class is often the ones left out in the cold. Unfortunately its not as easy as stated here.

For example Armani employs a lot of people from designers to factory workers. While sure brad and Angelina can go Gucci; what happens when Armani most close its doors because no one can afford their products. What happens to the factory workers and the designers Armani employed.

What people fail to realize (and a sound bite campaign doesn’t help) is that the economy is such an intricate tapestry; if you pull on one thread others start to become unraveled as a result.

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Perhaps, but my point was, most people who buy Armani and Gucci are those who can afford it in the first place. I doubt that they will lose a lot of customers.

I was more or less being sarcastic that the government focuses on the aspects of the finacial area where it’s not needed, nor much of a threat. The couple bought a $10,000 diamond-encrusted pacifer for their child for goodness sake, they’re certainly not having to struggle with affording anything.

Unless of course they keep spoiling their children with stupid expensive stuff like that when a) sucking on a thumb might be dangerous but b)it’s cheaper, and a pacifer is the same risk.

My point was, The lower classes do struggle, and I apologize for not stating the middle class, I meant them also in with the working class. It’s the butt-kissing the government does just to keep their status. The campaigns are funded by several sponsors, endorsements and businesses who can afford to use their money on such a possible revolution. They get the connections, and the trades they need.

However, what about the little resturant on the corner which has been family owned for 3 generations? Or the single mother of 3 working 4 mininum wage jobs just to put food on the table and keep up with the rent/morgage? It’s those people who get left out the most. Including middle class.

The higher businesses are still getting an OK outcome from the non-struggling. The economy is slowing down, and while it’s bad yes, the higher businesses haven’t stopped production…yet. It’s a reccession, not a depression. The more that the majority gets ignored or put on a waiting list, the faster the economy will fall and it’ll be worse than the crash of ‘29. Then there’ll be trouble all over the board.

Sorry, don’t mean to rant or sound contradictable. I think you just misunderstood my point a little.

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4 years, 6 months ago (12 hours, 56 minutes after post)

i havent read anything above, because i have to leave soon. but i dont expect anything to really change the first year, or with any new president for that matter. but he has already made a difference, he made a difference in history and in people just because he got elected. I do expect taxes to go up for the wealthy familys. But most of all he is going to have to clean up after bush…and who knows how long that could take. i believe he is going to bring our troops back home. and we will see after that. i am excited to see what change lays ahead. espcially having a democratic president and haveng a majority of democratic senators, they might get alot passed,

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 day after post)

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but he has already made a difference, he made a difference in history and in people just because he got elected.

Not to be too cynical; but you are correct he has already made a difference just by being elected the sock market has dropped considerably the last two days. That does not bode well for the economy.

i am excited to see what change lays ahead. espcially having a democratic president and haveng a majority of democratic senators, they might get alot passed,

Be careful what you wish for, the republicans had the same exact thing in the last government. They where unable to work together to create any meaningful conservative change and it ultimately decimated their party. Perhaps once one gets that much power they don’t know what to do with it.

thanks for the responce.

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An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 day after post)

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Anonymous wrote:
but he has already made a difference, he made a difference in history and in people just because he got elected.

Not to be too cynical; but you are correct he has already made a difference just by being elected the sock market has dropped considerably the last two days. That does not bode well for the economy.

Well, techically it’s not good, no. But still, we need to remember, he’s not president YET. Not until January 20th. So until it’s inauguration day we can’t really pin that on him yet. If at all really. It’s probably going to happen that he’ll be blamed for a lot of the economy’s misfortune’s, and the same would have happened if McCain had won. I don’t think it’s really fair to say that the stock market dropping in 48 hours since it was announced is anything to do with him. Until January, the Republican’s are still in office.

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 day, 1 hour after post)

~Grace~ wrote:

Da⌐11 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
but he has already made a difference, he made a difference in history and in people just because he got elected.

Not to be too cynical; but you are correct he has already made a difference just by being elected the sock market has dropped considerably the last two days. That does not bode well for the economy.

Well, techically it’s not good, no. But still, we need to remember, he’s not president YET. Not until January 20th. So until it’s inauguration day we can’t really pin that on him yet. If at all really. It’s probably going to happen that he’ll be blamed for a lot of the economy’s misfortune’s, and the same would have happened if McCain had won. I don’t think it’s really fair to say that the stock market dropping in 48 hours since it was announced is anything to do with him. Until January, the Republican’s are still in office.

That is an incorrect assessment. The market fell because of he was elected; that’s how the market works, they don’t wait until January for his inauguration they factor his presidency into the price of stock immediately.

The price of a stock is the reflection of its worth from this point in time until infinity; Because of Obama’s election the cumulated worth of all stock (the market) dropped because there is a perceived devaluation in worth in the future (ie his presidency).

This occurrence is indicative of the market not being optimistic that Obama will be able to fix the current economic problems as quickly as McCain would have.

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An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 day, 23 hours after post)

Da⌐11 wrote:

~Grace~ wrote:
Da⌐11 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
but he has already made a difference, he made a difference in history and in people just because he got elected.

Not to be too cynical; but you are correct he has already made a difference just by being elected the sock market has dropped considerably the last two days. That does not bode well for the economy.

Well, techically it’s not good, no. But still, we need to remember, he’s not president YET. Not until January 20th. So until it’s inauguration day we can’t really pin that on him yet. If at all really. It’s probably going to happen that he’ll be blamed for a lot of the economy’s misfortune’s, and the same would have happened if McCain had won. I don’t think it’s really fair to say that the stock market dropping in 48 hours since it was announced is anything to do with him. Until January, the Republican’s are still in office.

That is an incorrect assessment. The market fell because of he was elected; that’s how the market works, they don’t wait until January for his inauguration they factor his presidency into the price of stock immediately.

The price of a stock is the reflection of its worth from this point in time until infinity; Because of Obama’s election the cumulated worth of all stock (the market) dropped because there is a perceived devaluation in worth in the future (ie his presidency).

This occurrence is indicative of the market not being optimistic that Obama will be able to fix the current economic problems as quickly as McCain would have.

^^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! You think Mccain would actually fix the economy, that tickles me in so many ways. Someone who openly supported a majority of the presidents decisions would not have made a change.

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (2 days, 1 hour after post)

sighlus wrote:

Da⌐11 wrote:
~Grace~ wrote:
Da⌐11 wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
but he has already made a difference, he made a difference in history and in people just because he got elected.

Not to be too cynical; but you are correct he has already made a difference just by being elected the sock market has dropped considerably the last two days. That does not bode well for the economy.

Well, techically it’s not good, no. But still, we need to remember, he’s not president YET. Not until January 20th. So until it’s inauguration day we can’t really pin that on him yet. If at all really. It’s probably going to happen that he’ll be blamed for a lot of the economy’s misfortune’s, and the same would have happened if McCain had won. I don’t think it’s really fair to say that the stock market dropping in 48 hours since it was announced is anything to do with him. Until January, the Republican’s are still in office.

That is an incorrect assessment. The market fell because of he was elected; that’s how the market works, they don’t wait until January for his inauguration they factor his presidency into the price of stock immediately.

The price of a stock is the reflection of its worth from this point in time until infinity; Because of Obama’s election the cumulated worth of all stock (the market) dropped because there is a perceived devaluation in worth in the future (ie his presidency).

This occurrence is indicative of the market not being optimistic that Obama will be able to fix the current economic problems as quickly as McCain would have.

^^^^ HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!! You think Mccain would actually fix the economy, that tickles me in so many ways. Someone who openly supported a majority of the presidents decisions would not have made a change.

I guess reading comprehension is not your strong suit than?

And since I gather you wont understand that comment either. I’ll explain the previous comments in smaller words.

The “market” does not believe hat Obama will be able to fix the current economic problems as quickly as McCain would have.

Not “me” the “market”

Now that you have a better understanding of what was said do you have an intelligent comment to add to the discussion?

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Hexham, I7, GB | 4 years, 6 months ago (2 days, 3 hours after post)

Well, I’m just hoping Obama winning will mean a stronger relationship between Europe and America… and no, not the Master/Slave thing America and England have had for a few years…. A democracy among democratic countries… is such a thing possible? :)

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An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (4 days after post)

I expect Obama to pull out of Irag; decrease the deficit; increase health care; and stiumulate the economy in extradorinay ways. I feel that although it was constantly stated in his campaign that he would not play the “race card” be shear public opinion of the “history making event” of voting a bi-racial man into the Presidential Office we have accepted the “race card.”
Pres. Obama has even more to prove in office that any man being elected in this climate in America. Do I expect success???? Honestly if I measure the success by a non-history making campaign then yes I think he may succeed; measuring on the hype of the election and how monumental the event is..leaves me thinking we have a Superman in office and no I do not think he will succeed. I feel the American public will expect more than they receive.

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I HAAAAATE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mccain is better than that stupid guy. i feel bad for you stupid ppl. i meen who wood vote obama LOL stupid dumbies. now you see how he fails so bad for this country within a week LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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An Unknown Location | 4 years, 6 months ago (1 week after post)

miranda.purpl wrote:
I HAAAAATE OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! mccain is better than that stupid guy. i feel bad for you stupid ppl. i meen who wood vote obama LOL stupid dumbies. now you see how he fails so bad for this country within a week LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

What an idiotic reply. If you’re going to call people stupid because of their political views, at least spell your words correctly. You’re the only one here that looks stupid.

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An Unknown Location | 4 years, 5 months ago (3 weeks, 5 days after post)

What do I expect from an Obama presidency?
- I expect a lot of positive change in the American society during Hussein Obama’s presidency.

Now that Obama is president elect, what do I expect him to do in the first year of his presidency?
- I expect him to improve relations with with countries like Iran, Syria, Republic of Transnistria, etc…

Also if my answer is not easily measured; how would I personally measure his progress.
- I can measure his progress by getting information on how those relations improve with those countries on a week to week basis.

Further, will I be disappointed if he is not able to accomplish what I have indicated with in his first year?
- No, I wouldn’t be disappointed (he’s just a human being) considering how little has been done in the past by others.

And if not how long will I give him before becoming disappointed?
- Like I said, I wouldn’t get disappointed. But, considering the great potential of the American Nation, he can improve those relations within a year and a half time span if he’s really allowed to by the Congress.

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An Undisclosed Location | 4 years, 5 months ago (3 weeks, 5 days after post)

Thanks for the respons h2_h

I have a few questions.

- I can measure his progress by getting information on how those relations improve with those countries on a week to week basis.

Where will you get this infromation on a week to week basis? What will your sources be?

Like I said, I wouldn’t get disappointed. But, considering the great potential of the American Nation, he can improve those relations within a year and a half time span if he’s really allowed to by the Congress.

What are the steps Obama could take to improve those relations in a year and a half time span granted that congress allows him to take those steps?

My final question is, why do you refer to Barack Hussein Obama as Hussein Obama? It is not common for people to refer to others by their second and surnames only while leaving out their first names. Why do you chose to referee to him in this unusual way?

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An Unknown Location | 4 years, 5 months ago (3 weeks, 5 days after post)

I’ll start with last question. On the one hand,the name Barack resembles too much the word Barracks. On the other hand Hussein is more fit to use in the today’s world and especially in an increasing business and diplomacy with the Arab world.

Middle question. I believe dialogue is the first step he can take in all directions. He seems to be very good at it. Seeing that he is already choosing people for his administration from both political parties. As part of the international dialogue process I can see conferences and treaties as being very useful. Of course, if they are conducted in the right direction. For that, he will need more capeble people, more intelligent judges, and so on…

First question. We can obtain an amazing amount of information from the web…

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