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Its fine.

Its all good. Everything is fine. I am closing this post now.

Thankyou to all who came and said kind words.

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Laina1312 offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (3 minutes after post)

If someone makes that choice, IT IS _NOT_ YOUR FAULT. That is their choice and while it’s incredibly tragic, it’s NOT your fault.

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daveonthebal offline Verified User (1 year) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (4 minutes after post)

have you got that person’s phone number?

If not then ring their dad and ask for their number… and then ring them…

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Laina1312 offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (4 minutes after post)

It’s better to do it sooner than later.

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M. Wright offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (5 minutes after post)

First paragraph: I don’t think so. Not entirely. We typically decide that the responsibility of an individual’s actions rest with that individual. There are some cases where responsibility is shared. Like if a person is provoked into doing something, that can be a mitigating factor. But no. I would not go so far as that.

If you have suspicions that someone you know may be thinking about suicide, please don’t hesitate to tell a trusted adult. I know you might be worried about being wrong, or what the person might think about you, but it is easier to ask forgiveness from a person than it is to bring someone back from the dead.

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grey . offline Verified User (1 year) Long Term User Shouts: 7 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (9 minutes after post)

its not your fault… you probably wantef that person to know the truth….
you did your job and it was his own decision.
dont feel guilty!!!!

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Bogdan (Gone) offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (10 minutes after post)

daveonthebal wrote:
have you got that person’s phone number?If not then ring their dad and ask for their number… and then ring them…

They actually dont have a phone number, and they dont want their dad to know because everytime they tell their dad, it makes things harder and harder.

Laina1312 wrote:
It’s better to do it sooner than later.

If they did it, they are already dead. Their father kind of hates me, even though he doesnt know me. It complicates the situation a lot. If they have done it, they are dead because if they hadn’t they would come and talk to me I think. There have been times where they have not talked to me for a while before as well, suicidal in these stages and they came back. That is why I wait a week.

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Flatline offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (29 minutes after post)

Seems like you have two questions: one about whether you or anyone really can be held responsible for someone else’s suicide and another practical question about finding out whether this person is still alive.

We all affect each other in unseen ways. It’s sometimes surprisingly *tempting* to take responsibility for another’s suicide if only to make sense of it. I think (as an example of this kind of thing) some of my friends wanted to feel responsible for their parents’ divorcing…of course they weren’t responsible for it, but deep down they wonder if they were. But I think it’s self-destructive to wonder if your best efforts to help someone might have caused them to choose self-destruction, even though you’re courageous to ask yourself that question. The question is really spiritual and therefore unknowable in this life. It’s surprisingly easy, I’ve found anyway, to find black holes that suck me down into dark feelings and no answers. I think if I wanted to I could spend years on these questions…but it would be a waste, an oddly tempting waste.

As to your second question…like you say, no need to rush unless you feel you can help them. If you think you can help them, then why not swing by where they live or work and try to catch them there?

BTW, I always enjoy your posts.

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Bogdan (Gone) offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (4 hours, 39 minutes after post)

Thanks Flatline, I wish I could just swing by, but I have never been to their house and I don’t know how to get there, and they don’t work.

This is a rhino’s bargain, I have to wait for a little while. It could be nothing and I am jumping to conclusions.

Wish it wasn’t so hard in the meantime. :’(
When I get some updates, I will post here.

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*~jemma~* offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 8 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (6 hours, 39 minutes after post)

its not ur fault.it was their decision not yours

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Bogdan (Gone) offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (6 hours, 41 minutes after post)

I hope they haven’t actually done anything, but I am scared. :(

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*~jemma~* offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 8 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (6 hours, 47 minutes after post)

awww:(
if ur that worried get in touch with them.is it someone close if i may ask?

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Bogdan (Gone) offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (6 hours, 52 minutes after post)

In case you didnt notice, check your email.

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*Dougie* offline Verified User (1 year, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (14 hours, 2 minutes after post)

No!
Whatever this information you gave to them was, they could have got it some other way!
So you cannot blame yourself my friend!

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Serious question.

If someone bestows knowledge and wisdom upon someone who asks for it, and this leads the person to reassess their lives and conclude that they are not a good person (more a confirmation of their conclusion) and this person commits suicide, is it the fault of the person who bestowed the knowledge and wisdom?

They said they were happier knowing than not knowing, but still. I dont know if they did or not, but I havent talked to them in a couple of days, and I usually talk to them everyday. I cant get into contact with them unless I phone their father, and if nothing is wrong I dont want to betray my friend like that. Even if they did, what do I say? I don’t know what to do. If after a week, I dont hear from them, I will probably try to ring (even though that scares the crap out of me)

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Bogdan (Gone) offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (19 hours, 23 minutes after post)

Friend is fine, got in contact with me. Thanks for all your support.

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