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I don’t know cliff, but ur pretty cute.

K, I’ll go read ur post now, lol

i don’t think what u’ve said there is at all racist and it is unfair but people always pick up on people who are not like themselves. thats why certain people get picked on. its horrible but i think its human. i think media causes a lot of racism against white, aisan and black people. if you go to a mainly black country its white and aisan people that get funny looks. its just being different!

Well!
Most people twist it because of that…
If you brign up the racist card it means your one who takes notice of it… in otherwords you do notice race and therefore that makes you a racist!
I know its twisted logic, but the best way is not to bring up the race issiue at all…

Whoa, this is the last thing I expected to see here… o.O.

I’m just gonna throw it out there and say that as a race, Black people play the race card too much, so when it actually applies, it seems like we’re just playing it again. Crying wolf and such.

The fact is we as humans will always form some group that we can identify ourselves with and race is one of them…
so racisim is never going to go away unless there are no races anymore…
Thing is not to make an issue of it unless it leads to discrimination that effects people…

Each instance should stand on its own.
I think it’s terrible that gun sales have gone up.
I also think it is fantastic the Obama got elected!
Not because of his race, but because I think he is a good man, and America has not had a Democrat president for a while.

R.A.M. I disagree with the idea the racism will never go away while there are races.
It stays because some people are intolerant, fearful, and bigoted. Racism is a state of mind, not a fact of instinct!

Nothing you have said here sounds racist.

I’m one of those people who took a long time to make up my mind on the election. I voted for McCain in the primary, mainly because I’m a moderate and independent. I almost always vote against incumbents, since once politicians get in office they seem to work every angle and interest group to their own continuation of power.

Last spring I began to lean toward Obama, despite the fact that he isn’t a moderate. I sensed that he has the potential to be a voice of reason and healing in a country that has been divided by political opportunists. Also, although his voting record is pretty extreme to the left (while McCain’s is only center-right), his temperament seems to be of someone who acts with caution and calm, rather than with suddenness and anger. Besides character, the issues are important as well, so I watched all of the nomination acceptances speeches and debates (pres. as well as vp). Obama convinced me that he isn’t intending to govern from the far-left, but from the center-left. A far-left approach will only serve to divide the country further.

I’m a white male in deep south. On election day I was the first in line, and stood conversing happily for the hour and a half wait with African-American women mostly. Most people in line were African-American. Of the whites there, you could almost tell which ones were McCain supporters because of their dour expressions. They knew that it was Obama’s day.

Although I voted for the person I believe will be the best leader, my state still went for McCain. Other whites I know who voted Republican had no interest in the race of the candidates. They differed with Obama’s economics (which while not socialist, are likely to expand the social safety net). I’m sure that there are some who voted for McCain simply because he is white. Those people, it would be accurate to describe as racist. But what is it called when a person of color voted for Obama solely because of his race?

Yesterday I was wearing the jacket that I had worn on election day, and my son noticed that it had the “I voted” sticker. I said that I might save the sticker since it had been an historic day. My son, who had heard many times that it was historic, asked how it had been historic. I replied, “Because Obama was the first African-American elected as president.” My son said, “Oh yeah, I forgot he was African-American.”

Part of why Barrack Obama won the election is that he didn’t play the race card. He’s not so focused on his own ethnicity to the point of carrying a chip on his shoulder. Is it good to celebrate our diversity? Yes. But the ideal that Dr. King spoke about was a future in which character outweighs skin color to the point of people forgetting to notice it.

Racism should be opposed, period. Charges of racism are incendiary; they’re not to be thrown around lightly. It sounds like some have falsely accused you. I’m interested to know if you believe in racial quotas in hiring and college admissions in the name of diversity. My children make near perfect grades, and don’t quite understand why they will be at a disadvantage because of their skin color. If affirmative action has any validity, it seems to me it should be based on socio-economic status and not on race.

Hi I’m Cliff wrote:

JahRadio wrote:
Whoa, this is the last thing I expected to see here… o.O.

I’m just gonna throw it out there and say that as a race, Black people play the race card too much, so when it actually applies, it seems like we’re just playing it again. Crying wolf and such.

Why can’t each instance stand on its own? Everyone is not the same just as every situation is not the same. Should one be accused of being a racist just because other’s cry wolf? I never hear people say Jews play the Anti-Semite card. Seems a little unfair.

I dunno. I’m not that familiar with the Jewish community, but I don’t think they have characters like Al Sharpton who call attention to every incident that involves a Black person and turns it into a race issue. Especially when it’s OBVIOUSLY not an issue.

I’m not saying it’s fair that you get called racist because of people like him. I’m just saying that it damages our credibility as a race when we turn everything into a race issue. That’s why when there are ACTUAL racist incidents that take place, no one pays attention because it’s like we’re perpetually crying for attention.

Cliff:

I’m a Black gay girl from the Bronx, and I think that, despite Al Sharpton’s trailblazing ways, he’s lost his ability to be an effective leader and spokesperson for the Black community. To many Black and White people alike, he’s looked at like a friggin joke because of his willingness to raise to race issue where it clearly doesn’t belong. He’s part of the problem of the cult of victimology so prevalent in the Black community.

Hi I’m Cliff wrote:
sansceriph

Thanks for your reply. It was well thought out and articulated. I do believe in affirmative action based on race, gender, as well as socioeconomic status. I think if we force people to be tolerant there will be no excuse for exclusion. I think affirmative action helps out much more demographics than just race. I believe it is an excellent practice and helped this country become more diverse.

JahRadio

I live in NY. I think Al Sharpton is an awesome guy. He gets a bad rap. He has stood up for more than just race. He is a trailblazer for women’s rights, gay rights, and other ethnic groups. I think his calling attention to these issues forces us to deal with them. I like Obama’s approach but it wont totally do the job. I believe he serves a purpose just as Obama’s stance on race has served a purpose.

Cliff I appreciate your opinion. The problem with affirmative action is that it doesn’t really level the playing field. The wealthy will always have access to jobs and education; their money creates the connection. I don’t understand how discriminating against one group (in this case white, middle-class males) is a fair response to institutionalized racism. Something needs to be done, but when your own the losing end of the equation, it just looks like discrimination. Under affirmative action, my children can have better test scores and grades than the children of a wealthy minority, and yet the minority candidate would be hired or admitted to college before them. Two wrongs will not make a right.

Another suggestion not to apper racist…
remove the term white people from your post!

I never said he isn’t needed. I just said he’s lost his influence because people don’t take him seriously anymore.

I agree with what you said above though.

My whole point, though, in bringing up Al Sharpton was related to your original post. I’m trying to help you see what other people [namely White people] see when they see a Black man raising the race issue… Another Black dude saying, “It’s cuz I’m [or in this case “he’s”] Black!!!” It doesn’t matter if your point is valid or not. People are tired of being accused of being racist every single time race is even mentioned. I’m sure you can understand, being called a racist yourself, now.

I’m not sure if it was clear, but I’m not saying Al Sharpton is the cause of all this. I’m saying him and people like him are making others weary of the Black community’s cries of “Racism!” for every little incident. It’s taking away from the true incidents and from those who point out the true incidents, like yourself.

I meant “on” the losing end.

sansceriph wrote:
Cliff I appreciate your opinion. The problem with affirmative action is that it doesn’t really level the playing field. The wealthy will always have access to jobs and education; their money creates the connection. I don’t understand how discriminating against one group (in this case white, middle-class males) is a fair response to institutionalized racism. Something needs to be done, but when your own the losing end of the equation, it just looks like discrimination. Under affirmative action, my children can have better test scores and grades than the children of a wealthy minority, and yet the minority candidate would be hired or admitted to college before them. Two wrongs will not make a right.

I thought affirmative action was that, all other things being equal [test scores, grades, experience, etc.], the minority will get the spot. I think that’s a myth that lesser qualified minority candidates get spots over more qualified whites. That just makes no sense.

I hear you, man. And in an ideal world, everyone would judge everyone else like that. But people tend to judge situations based on past experiences… And the Black community has been playing the “victim” card for too long. So when faced with it again, people just assume it’s more BS. Sad, but we [as a community] sort of brought it on ourselves.

Like I said, I hear what you’re saying though.

JahRadio wrote:

sansceriph wrote:
Cliff I appreciate your opinion. The problem with affirmative action is that it doesn’t really level the playing field. The wealthy will always have access to jobs and education; their money creates the connection. I don’t understand how discriminating against one group (in this case white, middle-class males) is a fair response to institutionalized racism. Something needs to be done, but when your own the losing end of the equation, it just looks like discrimination. Under affirmative action, my children can have better test scores and grades than the children of a wealthy minority, and yet the minority candidate would be hired or admitted to college before them. Two wrongs will not make a right.

I thought affirmative action was that, all other things being equal [test scores, grades, experience, etc.], the minority will get the spot. I think that’s a myth that lesser qualified minority candidates get spots over more qualified whites. That just makes no sense.

Just to add to that thought too. If what you were saying were true, there would be so many more minorities in colleges and universities… But there aren’t. That’s paranoia right there, though I do agree that socioeconomic status is a better judge when it comes to schools.

why does it always have to do with colour if someone insults a person of different colour?
i could call the white guy next to me a dickface, and its just an insult, or i could call the black guy next to me a dickface, and its because hes black?
is that not just perpetuating and in fact making racism worse?

i did read it.

This congressman called Obama a marxist and a socialist. Nothing in Obama’s record even suggests that. All that these people are going on are a few excerpts from speeches taken out of context. So I called it out.

i thought that part rather interesting. called it what? racism? coz uh…no one mentioned colour anywhere in there.

sorry man, i think youre barkin up the wrong tree.
youre perpetuating it more than its actually happening, and as long as you cry rasicm at every snide comment, rasicm will always exist.

well, im part Maori, so part “black” i guess you could say. i could ***** and moan about how my people were ripped off by white folk hundreds of years back like a lot of them do, but it wouldnt get me anywhere, and it creates animosity and more hatred. i say get over it and live life and not see people as hating your colour everywhere you go, and youll realise that people dont hate your colour everywhere you go.
if you dont look for rasicm, you probably wont find it.

i meant my people and the hundreds of years ago.