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Just out of curiosity, do most Christians help others because they want to save them from Christ or because they care?


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timbob4108 offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 8 #
NY, US | 1 year ago (3 minutes after post)

Because they care, christ is nothing to be saved from, I think it just happens that good people tend to be affiliated with a religion. Doesn’t matter if your christian, buddhist, jewish, or whatever the main message of religion is pretty much the same, love your brothers and sisters and help those in need.

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Mayor offline Verified User (1 year) Long Term User Shouts: 166 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (4 minutes after post)

I think because they care. However I think that at first they were raised to believe that if you did nice things you will go to heaven. Now most enjoy doing good things because if gives you a good feeling.

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elysium offline Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 23 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (8 minutes after post)

They do it because they care. Most Christians I’ve met want to try and make the world a better place.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 1 year ago (9 minutes after post)

interesting answers.

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Goodfella offline Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (11 minutes after post)

“Save them from Christ”….what does that even mean ?

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Kuvri (yodaluv12) offline Verified User (2 years, 12 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Kangerlussuaq, 01, GL | 1 year ago (27 minutes after post)

timbob4108 wrote:
I think it just happens that good people tend to be affiliated with a religion.

I disagree. I know some horrible people who are very religious. The problem is that they love their “brothers and sisters”, but not those who don’t follow the same religion.

And I believe the term “saving someone” refers to the belief that god will punish those who don’t believe in that religion, as religious people often assume that their religion is the correct one- ie most christians i know don’t think they will be reincarneted, but instead will go to heaven.

Personally, I don’t think any one religion is correct- I believe there’s “something” that makes things happen. As to what happens after death, I hope it’s good, but I think it’s probably how you felt before you were born.

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Island offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (1 hour, 16 minutes after post)

I’m not sure what you mean by ’save them from Christ’….it’s the ‘from’ bit thats a bit confusing. I’ll assume you mean just ’save’ them..

Just because someone is a christian doesn’t automatically mean that they care unconditionally for other people. Everyone is human after all and there will be many different types of christians depending upon what their motivation is to follow christianity and the fundamental type of person they are.

I know a few and they are all v different from each other and how they behave. One of them never stops doing what she can for other people, which is great, but, she has explicitly made it known that the more she does for others, the more she can call that favour back!? Which is not so great.

Another is a v dear and loyal friend who cares a lot, because she just does, and would do so, I believe, whether she is a christian or not. However, she did admit to me that during the first couple of years of knowing me, did try to lure me to her church, I knew she was, she didn’t succeed and we are still as close as we were and respect our religious differences. So I guess, in answer to your question, it’s a bit of both.

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Felicity offline Verified User (1 year, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 8 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (11 hours, 8 minutes after post)

Hi hun, How are you? I think you meant to say ’save them from death’so they will go to heaven and have eternal life? Even though we are instructed to bring others to Christ we care in the process b/c we have compassion

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seah1 offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (15 hours, 11 minutes after post)

It is genuine love that makes Christians care for people. Why? It is also because of our Lord Jesus Christ’s genuine love for us. God’s love makes people who love Him to love others.

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Xeno Dragon online Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 28 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (15 hours, 47 minutes after post)

I’ll not speak for anyone, but from the perspective of a former Christian, and a current non-Christian, it certainly SEEMS like the whole point in recruiting is just so that they have more people around them who believe the same thing they do. After all, it’s very easy to doubt if you’re not constantly surrounded by people assuring you and re-assuring you that it’s all real. It may not be the reality, but it appears to an outside observer as though they recruit out of the fear that somehow, majority rules, and that if they’re not the biggest religion out there, it might just not be real anymore.

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Vjj offline Verified User (1 year) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (19 hours, 43 minutes after post)

Because I care, but I probably wouldn’t bother caring for others so much if others hadn’t shown me how much of a difference compassion can make to a person’s life.

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Captain K offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (21 hours, 41 minutes after post)

both and its not “save them from Christ” only God saves we are just seed planters so it should be “they want to tell them about the good news.”

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Xeno Dragon online Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 28 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (21 hours, 44 minutes after post)

I have some good news, and I have some bad news.
What’s the good news?
You can never do anything fun again, or you’re going to Hell.
Sh*t, what’s the bad news?!
You’re probably going to Hell anyway. The things that get you sent there are the equivalent of being human.

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Captain K offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (21 hours, 44 minutes after post)

seah1 wrote:
It is genuine love that makes Christians care for people. Why? It is also because of our Lord Jesus Christ’s genuine love for us. God’s love makes people who love Him to love others.

Well said my friend its the love that only God’s Holy Spirit can bring about

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Kuvri (yodaluv12) offline Verified User (2 years, 12 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Kangerlussuaq, 01, GL | 1 year ago (1 day after post)

Well, for the record, I’ve never known any non-Christian who is not bothered by people trying to convert them. I’ve also never met one who was “successfully” converted.

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Mayor offline Verified User (1 year) Long Term User Shouts: 166 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (1 day, 1 hour after post)

Xeno Dragon wrote:
I have some good news, and I have some bad news.
What’s the good news?
You can never do anything fun again, or you’re going to Hell.
Sh*t, what’s the bad news?!
You’re probably going to Hell anyway. The things that get you sent there are the equivalent of being human.

that is too funny LOL

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Xeno Dragon online Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 28 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

yodaluv12 wrote:
I’ve also never met one who was “successfully” converted.

Oh, I have. They’re creepy. They tend do be very very gullible people, and their eyes look…

well…

Kinda like a cow’s right before it gets hit by a bus.

Seriously, though, there really is a very ‘Terry Shiavo-esque’ gleam in their eyes.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (1 day, 4 hours after post)

Goodfella wrote:
“Save them from Christ”….what does that even mean ?

hahaha, like he’s a bogeyman or something? :]

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Xeno Dragon online Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 28 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (1 day, 7 hours after post)

You know, there was this story of Catholic nuns refusing to give aid to people after the Tsunami because they wouldn’t convert. I’ll go get the article if you’d like.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (1 day, 7 hours after post)

Xeno Dragon wrote:
You know, there was this story of Catholic nuns refusing to give aid to people after the Tsunami because they wouldn’t convert. I’ll go get the article if you’d like.

please do O.o

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Xeno Dragon online Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 28 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year ago (1 day, 8 hours after post)

I read it on Yahoo News… I’m still looking for the link, as this one I had has gone dead. http://in.news.yahoo.com/050116/139/2…

But I did find a transcript of the article I saw.

“Rage and fury has gripped this tsunami-hit tiny Hindu village in India’s southern Tamil Nadu after a group of Christian missionaries allegedly refused them aid for not agreeing to follow their religion.

[…] Jubilant at seeing the relief trucks loaded with food, clothes and the much-needed medicines the villagers, many of who have not had a square meal in days, were shocked when the nuns asked them to convert before distributing biscuits and water.

Heated arguments broke out as the locals forcibly tried to stop the relief trucks from leaving. The missionaries, who rushed into their cars on seeing television reporters and the cameras refusing to comment on the incident and managed to leave the village.

Disappointed and shocked into disbelief the hapless villagers still await aid.

“Many NGOs (volunteer groups) are extending help to us but there in our village the NGO, which was till now helping us is now asking us to follow the Christian religion. We are staunch followers of Hindu religion and refused their request. And after that these people with their aid materials are leaving the village without distributing that to us,” Rajni Kumar, a villager said.”

Looks like these four links below have the same broken link on their sites. Not saying who payed off whom, but it’s pretty obvious it why it’s not there any more. If you search for that first line of the article in Google, you’ll find hundreds of links to that same missing page.

http://www.inminds.co.uk/tsunami.html
http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/arch…
http://jme.bmj.com/cgi/content/abstra…
http://www.moonbuggy.org/archive/2005…

While looking, though, I also found this. http://www.hindujagruti.org/news/2838…

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An Undisclosed Location | 12 months ago (1 week, 5 days after post)

sick.

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