Wull, I don’t agree with this: “The reason for living basically IS science.”
yeah. i mean, if i weren’t living for myself, i’d be living for my loved ones. seems more worthwhile than waiting for the newest iPhone to come out…
You’re correct, science is amazing. If not for science, our lives would not be near as comfortable as they are.
But, science isn’t suddenly going to stop and say “Well, that’s it…we’re done now!”
Have a look at the science fiction movies…which aren’t really called that any more.
Back in the 60s when Star Trek first came out, everyone thought it was ridiculous.
But, we now have a lot of those devices in our day to day lives.
Hollywood puts ideas on the big screens and science takes up the challenge to create the toys and incredible devices for the future.
Compare the old animation and animatronic tv shows like Frosty the Snowman to…Shrek the halls.
No comparison.
These are exciting times, and they’re getting better!
I live for myself and my desire to do good in the world.
As long as the world doesn’t turn into an apocalyptic Fahrenheit-451 world, then I’m okay
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Also, in music…have you heard Apocalyptica?
1 set of drums and 3 cellos playing heavy metal to classical. wonderful and unique.
“But, science isn’t suddenly going to stop and say “Well, that’s it…we’re done now!””
There HAS to be a point when everything is done though. Makes me think of Jason X…oh and with robots and holograms, won’t we become more lazy and possibly fat? I mean we could kinda do everything in one chair then…
Apocalyptica uses instruments from the past and present. Yes they are unique, but it’s not really a new ’sound’ or genre, just a combination.
*Vocals to organs to strings to pianos to guitars to techno to present.
Why does there have to be a “point”? Look up “joie de vivre” and find a great love and never be satisfied with answers, but use every answer as a springboard to pose more questions.
In every generation since time immemorial, some have expressed your sentiment… that everything’s been discovered, or all questions have been answered.
Some walk around today waving a mystical book and claiming to know all the answers (but they don’t).
Yet, science fields have grown, expanded and multiplied a million-fold since the prehistoric times and THERE IS NO END IN SIGHT for those who take time to look.
Despite living in one of the great extinction periods, we’ve identified only a fraction of the insects and plants on this planet; and every year, new species are discovered, even macro fauna. Most of the seas on earth and all other planets haven’t even been explored.
Every year, someone’s besting someone else’s record in sports (some even without the help of illicit drugs that make their gonads shrivel up), or solving another complex math problem, or coming up with a new invention that makes them rich or saves countless lives.
Sure, a lot of music and books and movies have been written, and a lot sounds similar (but there is uniqueness if you listen and look hard enough)… have you listened or read them all?
Will YOU or Sony come out with the first pocket-sized 3-d holographic movie with stereo sound implants? Maybe you’ll patent the first talking book where the listener gets to choose who reads the book to them. (and I don’t mean those crappy Microsoft text-to-speech voices or grandma, I mean your favorite personality)
Have you sampled every food? Smelled every fragrance? Traveled around the world and from pole to pole? You couldn’t squeeze it “all” in if you had 5 lifetimes, so just one should be pretty stuffed.
Read and listen to Kipling’s “IF” and be inspired.
http://www.swarthmore.edu/~apreset1/d…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AJqES…
I’m feeling my age. Heard your questions 50 years ago, yet new discoveries are still being made in every field. The only thing that repeats itself is history, because people forget the mistakes of the past.
The Arcade Fire use many obsolete instruments too.
There’s the whole space travel and exploration part. Science needs to develop ways for man to travel the incredible distances through space at present speeds of rockets, OR develop a means of propulsion which can transport vehicles at incredible speeds.
In the oceans, we’re still discovering species we’ve never seen before. Yes they are a fish, or a crustacean, but unlike anything ever seen before.
I think our great great grandchildren will still be in awe of new scientific discovery
The vast majority of technical scientific inventions have come about in the last 100 years or so. Man was slowly developing new devices before that, but nothing like what’s happened since.
The Second World War began with biplanes and dambuster bombs and finished with jets and atomic weapons!
prisca, such a true reply thank you, but if everyone enjoyed what they already had in life, nothing new would be invented or thought of. I guess I’m just looking at the purpose of one’s life though. What were questions asked in the past? I’m not saying new discoveries can’t happen, I am saying there will be a point in time when everything HAS been discovered. As the searches continue, what should I be doing with my life?
cailean, we may even reach the point of time travel (which I don’t understand how that could work because how would the time traveler come back to the future to tell them it worked?). Warping, too. When cloning becomes easy in the future, warping should be able to be done as well, but then again it seems like it’d only make us lazier. Nice replies.
Arcade Fire sounds like new age from the past though. And if they were something new, wouldn’t they be more popular? However they’re pretty good.
“And if they were something new, wouldn’t they be more popular? “
I mean ‘emo’ and alternative was new to society, therefore people took on the style. Metal in the 80s was entirely new and influenced many as well. Pop, techno, gothic, all new sounds, genres, and styles that different from what came before it (in this case rock and roll, jazz, etc).
ah, time travel….listen to ‘39 by Queen.
it’s a paradox.
Queen, there’s another ‘new’ sounding band of its generation.
all tied together, using things from the past to suit the present.
what does Freddie Mercury(not his real name) have to do with an English Victoria painter who had a fetish for fairies and was locked up because of his thoughts?
Umm…I don’t know?
I also wanted to say I have my own band and our sound isn’t anything to be considered ‘new’, but we use elements from the past and mix it with ‘new’ ideas.
Gates was fascinated by the new technology ‘computers’ and grew off of that. Now with already used ideas, what can we expand? Gates looked at a computer and said “Wow let me supe this baby up a bit” (not actual words lol you get what I mean). So if I look at an IPhone I can say “Wow let me look into this and make it even better.” From the looks of it, the only way to make it better would be to add the X360’s GPU and a 20-60gb hardrive. Along with that, we have online games for it and so on.
I need help with ideas for HD-TV and plasma screens though…
On Queen II Freddie wrote a song called “The faerie feller’s master stroke”.
He was fascinated with a painting of Richard Dadd’s- the Victoria artist.
You can see the picture on this page, and you should try to get hold of the song. Utterly amazing! He sat and wrote the song based on looking closely at the painting.
http://www.popsubculture.com/pop/bio_…
entertainment is the area where we’ll see the most amazing advances.
medicine will run a very close second.
the nice thing about us humans is we can all put our own “touch” on a song, poem, whatever, and make it different than the original.
I hope your band does well.
“What is the point of living today?” Enlightenment.
Wow. I get what you mean though, using something form the past to make a present idea?
Our population is larger than ever, and medicine will help people live longer. Is that really a good thing? People need to stop having babies lol…I can’t even find a job around here because everywhere’s full.
I don’t know about my band. It was my dream but recently I’ve been thinking to give up. Who’d buy, you know? Why put so much work into nothing? Popular songs of today have to be simple and easy to make with crappy lyrics, like Katy Perry, Jason Mraz, and countless rappers (not hip-hop artists, but rappers).
And yes Florie, there’s a reason.
How the present is fraught with the past …
“And yes Florie, there’s a reason.”
I meant enlightenment IS a reason.
“How the present is fraught with the past …”
Are you saying we don’t learn from the past? We don’t pay attention to it? Or…we’re making the same mistakes and have the same thoughts?
No, I’m saying it is part of the present. Tonight I was driving through town listening to something by Palestrina performed in Rome and I felt the past, but not as the past.
Enlightenment is THE reason. :)
I think the real reason is greed. We will always need to have the best. As such, companies pour billions into research to bring something else out that’s the best.
And…pop music is for kids. Adults usually have much more complex musical taste.
Some bands try to satisfy both, sadly..like Queen did.
So Florie, what do YOU think I should do with my life?
Greed? Instead of using what life gives and having fun, scientists decide to research and study how to make life easier and better for the people that DO use what life gives and have fun.
Florie wrote:
Enlightenment is THE reason. :)
and who gets all these inventions first? the ones with the money. lol
“And…pop music is for kids. Adults usually have much more complex musical taste.”
Then why are only the pop artists and rappers on television? And the kids that listen to pop will grow to like that and when THEY become adults, I don’t think they’ll have a ‘much more complex’ musical taste. The adults of the present do, but the adults of the future won’t.
Enlightenment: wisdom or understanding enabling clarity of perception
- belief in the power of human reason and by innovations in political, religious, and educational doctrine
So we live to understand the five senses and to develop new things and methods?
cailean: it’s not really a matter of greed. I mean if you create/invent/produce something, you’re gonna WANT to use it. It’s up to them. Like Miyamoto (in case you don’t know, designed Mario, Zelda, F Zero, Donkey Kong) spends little time playing video games yet he’s pretty much the most famous video game designer.
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Enlightenment: wisdom or understanding enabling clarity of perception
- belief in the power of human reason and by innovations in political, religious, and educational doctrine
So we live to understand the five senses and to develop new things and methods?
No, nothing to do with “human reason” or understanding the five senses … !!?@#* ??? :)
I don’t think there’s any point of living. But it seems to be the human condition to always search for reason and meaning.
If there’s no point then we are only flesh & bones.
hmm, your point about adults of the future not have more complex tastes…have you ever seen the film Idocracy, with Luke Wilson?
I recommend it highly!
the point of living is to live. Why is this such a mystery?
you choose how you live, so if life seems pointless, that is more on you yourself than on anyone else.
Its like asking whats the point in eating..its obvious, you eat to stay alive. But you may eat crap, and thus feel like crap and screw up your quality of life, if not now, then in the long run.
Or you could eat well, healthy, and feel better, and live better.
The point of living is to live. What you do beyond that..well, thats the great thing, because it is ultamantly up to you from that point.
cailean: no I haven’t seen that movie I’ll look into it though ;)
ambruteyellow: precisely.
florie and rawheadrex: well it’s kinda hard to explain but…if i dont find a decent reason for me to live, then i think of it as having no purpose (which is a bit obvious really).
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