book help: for those of you who needs help..there’s this book called ” breath prayers”.. - Help.com

Why pray? Spend your time doing something more productive.

I’m just fine without prayer. Don’t need it. Most people don’t.

thank you. i may just have to look into that book. praying always helps me.

and never under estimate the power of prayer,
it can do wonders.

Why can I not say my life is not the way I want it to be?

“This post says it’s for those who need help. How could you say that you’re just fine when you had to read this for help, perhaps?”

What?

daddiesdarlyn wrote:
thank you. i may just have to look into that book. praying always helps me.and never under estimate the power of prayer, it can do wonders.

I don’t care about prayer. I’m satisfied.

-daddiesdarlyn wrote:
thank you. i may just have to look into that book. praying always helps me.and never under estimate the power of prayer, it can do wonders.

-I don’t care about prayer. I’m satisfied.

then why my dear did you bother to bash on prayer in the first place if you “don’t care”…?

secondhendsrenad wrote:
what i meant to say is that, this post is actually meant for those who need help. Not for those who would protest about whatever.

How does prayer help? I’m helping warn people not to buy your snake oil.

daddiesdarlyn wrote:
-daddiesdarlyn wrote: thank you. i may just have to look into that book. praying always helps me.and never under estimate the power of prayer, it can do wonders.-I don’t care about prayer. I’m satisfied.then why my dear did you bother to bash on prayer in the first place if you “don’t care”…?

Sorry. I don’t care FOR prayer.

then perhaps you should go argue about something you do care about.

secondhendsrenad wrote:
…I never did ask you. but if you didn’t care… what made you reply on my post?

Because I care about people.

“Because I care about people.”

i do to, but i don’t go around arguing/forcing my word & thoughts on religion, nor do i bash on others who have a different religion than i do, so don’t force atheism on people.

secondhendsrenad wrote:
..that’s not helping them.. you’re actually drawing them away from salvation…and FYI, i post this for those who CARE!!!

I care about people. How am I drawing people away from salvation? I’m saving them.

“Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. Teach a man to pray for a fish, he dies waiting for a fish that never comes.”

The only result of prayer are expectations that are never met.

daddiesdarlyn wrote:
“Because I care about people.”i do to, but i don’t go around arguing/forcing my word & thoughts on religion, nor do i bash on others who have a different religion than i do, so don’t force atheism on people.

I’m not bashing anyone. I’m not forcing anyone to do anything. I’m just raising valid points.

i think you must just not have much else to do…

daddiesdarlyn wrote:
i think you must just not have much else to do…

If you’re praying I think you’re not doing much.

i can multi task, i don’t have to do an entire ritual to pray, it’s just like talking. and maybe i’ll throw you into one of mine tonight.

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“The good Reverend Carlin was right, he said when you pray,
only 50% of the time will you get your way.
If God doesn’t listen to our cries when we call,
someone tell me, what’s the point of praying at all?”
-Voltaire; from the song, “Dead”

“He already know what you want,
and decided that you didn’t need it,
so don’t bother asking for cures or an answer,
God is the one who gave you the cancer.”
-Same Artist; from, “Same Song”

How does asking an ancient Hebrew literary figure help more than actually doing something to change your situation?

And I’m wondering what it means when you fail.

I guess we created the sun then.

Lol. Win.

To the contrary. Failure needs to be studied.

secondhendsrenad wrote:
of course not… what kind of sick head would think that…

Sun = skin cancer.

Duh.

Funny to hear a Christian talk about science.

secondhendsrenad wrote:
duh!! have you never heard pf sunblocks??

Right. WE created those so GOD couldn’t give us CANCER from the SUN.

secondhendsrenad wrote:
duh!! have you never heard pf sunblocks??

And one of the major ingredients of sun blocks is… NOT PRAYER! Yes!!!

Not science? They have not science?

I think you need to learn to read, there.

Xeno Dragon wrote:
Not science? They have not science?

Yes, Xeno. Yes.

secondhendsrenad wrote:
god gave us brain to think of a great solution for what ever disease may occur

K. Then why can’t you use that mighty brain to write a legible sentence?

all i have to say is, i would much rather believe in something and have there be nothing, than to believe in nothing and have there be something.

good night gents.

Good for you, daddiesdarlyn.

secondhendsrenad wrote:
what ever… you just have a low IQ and sense of self understanding

To the contrary. Anyone reading this can clearly see who has the higher IQ.

Hey Xeno, did you see me call someone anything???

Nope.

However, I have seen a very angry, poorly educated Christ-pimper.

Well you got both.

Merry Christmas.

I’m not an Atheist.

I’m just asking questions I would like answered, and responding when addressed by another.

Wow Xeno, I think the shock of having someone disagree with him has deteriorated his thinking and speech to an unprecedentedly low level.

Hey. That’s Santa’s turf, bub.

Yeah, and may Shiva smile upon you, Hindu.

No. Cry.

We are. You should too.

See? Jesus makes you angry, bitter, and constipated.

Everyone else here is having a ball. The Christian is all sad.

You fail to make any form of intelligent point, jess.

Move along, if you please.

Then why did you say anything at all?

Score for Xeno. Please make your insults a little better. You’re not even getting a rise out of me.

jess wrote:
unprecedentedly low kind of people

Could you elaborate on that?

jess wrote:
…because im so stupid.

Bingo.

From a person who can only call people losers and low people, that seems like a really hypocritical question.

No one’s insulting anyone. Except you.

So I ask you:

jess wrote:
does it give you great power to insult people..??

You want tolerance of beliefs?

A CHRISTIAN is talking about tolerance??

I’m sorry but I thought this site was to help people, either with advice or encouragement…. not to have arguments about people’s beliefs, thoughts and ideals… a good debate is always interesting, but some of these posts are close to bullying! Not an ideal way to discuss and share points of view… I’m new to the site and a bit surprised at some of the intolerance here!

Where’s any intolerance? We just don’t agree, and are sharing that. Y’all are the ones gettin’ feisty.

Right. I have a predisposition to be intolerant of useless and hurtful beliefs. I’m not ashamed of that, and I’m not going to apologize. My brand of encouragement? Get out there and do your own thing instead of uselessly praying to something you don’t even know exists.

I don’t have beliefs, thank you.

And we have just as much a right to be here and share our views as anyone else.

How am I being argumentative? I just asked a few questions, and responded when addressed.

Sorry, I fail to see the problem here. You’re the only ones acting like freaks about this. All I did was disagree with you, by presenting logical points. Either counter them, or quityerbitchin’.

Stop making new accounts.

It’s dishonest, and that’s a sin.

secondhendsrenad wrote:
I post this because i care for people especially for those who need help.

i go out into the community and volunteer my time to the homeless, the young and the elderly. i do this out of my own time in order to help people. im not religious im fact i have a problem when religious followers try to impose their religion on me. i do it because i am a good, compassionate caring human being. i don’t make money from it and i don’t ask for anything in return.

i care about people and there are more productive ways to help. now im going to end this, i dont want anyone to bless me or to inform me that i should find god, or that through my charity i have already seen the light… if i hear any of that i will open up whoopass on religion.

hear wrote:
hi! this matter should have not start an argument, if ya’ll can’t respect prayers, just respect god. k? and i don’t need to elaborate on anything. just had to raise my point as anyone’s right to. please stop this debate or what so ever you call this. this is so not getting to anything. my reply isn’t for in particular.. it’s for all who got involved.

Respect god?… who the feck is he? i dont know him hes never done anything to earn my respect, as far as i can tell hes a reclusive loner whos prone to extreme (biblical) violence.

Respect god… just another way of imposing your believes upon the unwashed sinful masses.

secondhendsrenad wrote:
…technically, its ourselves is to be blamed for cancer because if we hadn’t taken up anything that will harm our bodies we wouldn’t have it. so don’t blame god for any disease yo have

Nope, that’s not how cancer works. I looked into it a fair bit, as I watched someone die from it while getting loads of prayer. Prayer is powerful stuff, especially the style you mention. Sports stars use it often but under a different name. God is a powerful anchor for you, and if you choose to continue using it for your own good and the good of those around you, it will only grow more powerful. Only risk is if your world view becomes brittle and you are forced to hide, delude and attack.

You are trying to help, I respect that. I agree that VerUm and XD got a bit harsh, but if you see people wandering around hoping that santa will help them, you want to step in and help them. And if you see people telling others to ask santa to help them, well then you really want to help them. And if you’ve been abused by religious f***tards most of your childhood, well you really want to help and protect people from it.

Most of what you say is all positive, and if it helps, then that’s cool. I think sharing about the power of personal mantras is great, but it doesn’t cure cancer.

Harsh? How so?

do a search for the text “because im so stupid”. It was clever and accurate, but I ( and yes its just MPOV) think that misquoting people as insulting themselves is a bit harsh. If it saves them from wasting a life to delusional servitude then it would be worth it, and I’m new enough at this to not have an opinion either way.

I understand you choose not to play nice with noobs, and that’s working fine for you and has for a long time, I just find it harsh.

I play nice until people turn into idiots, or reveal their intolerance. In this case, both.

All good Xeno. I think my “harsh” comment was more directed at calming down the poster so they could see that you had valid points. I have “keep religious people from becoming angered” deeply ingrained and it one of my challenges to let that go. Even Mother Teresa upset a lot of people in her time, its the way things get done.

Wow, I had a huge insight writing that. HAHA, I’ll stone them right back if they try it now MWAH HA HA HA.

I pray every night. Not like kneel down next to my bed, usually just before I go to sleep. Just elps me get things of my mind and feel that something more powerful than me has an idea aout whats going on my life. :].

LizzyLo wrote:
I pray every night. Not like kneel down next to my bed, usually just before I go to sleep. Just elps me get things of my mind and feel that something more powerful than me has an idea aout whats going on my life. :].

Wow, just realised I do that too. I write my concerns into a journal in the belief that “one day when I’m stronger I go back and read this” Never have yet.