i’ve been thinking about this for awhile now and i was just wondering.
what does everyone think will happen when you die. i’ve heard about the “die and go to heaven” and then the “die and get tossed into a hole” but i know that people have their own ideas. i just want to see what some people think.
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I hope I die and go to a place of memories.
When i die i hope i go to a heaven made of all kinds of pastries
Geez Dak, how many holes were you planning on conjuring with all this excess deepness? haha ha 0_o’ *coping method pokes out from stage left*
wordfarer wrote:
Geez Dak, how many holes were you planning on conjuring with all this excess deepness? haha ha 0_o’ *coping method pokes out from stage left*
hey. as many as people want to dig. lol i’m just a bit curious cause i’ve hit the point where i’m being honest with myself and saying that i truly don’t know what will happen but i know what i believe in. it’s actually turning out rather well.
What happens when you die? The end, kaput, bye-bye, that’s all she wrote.
Daksha Cromwell wrote:
wordfarer wrote:
Geez Dak, how many holes were you planning on conjuring with all this excess deepness? haha ha 0_o’ *coping method pokes out from stage left*hey. as many as people want to dig. lol i’m just a bit curious cause i’ve hit the point where i’m being honest with myself and saying that i truly don’t know what will happen but i know what i believe in. it’s actually turning out rather well.
No offense, but this post seems to be another story… And maybe that is my fault for joking… Anyway!
I just want to point out a pattern I see:
Setto? wrote:
I think you die and decompose. That is all.
Verum Causa wrote:
What happens when you die? The end, kaput, bye-bye, that’s all she wrote.
Would you expect anything else from a site called “Help.com?”
Joking again Setto and Verum. Who’s to say that is a negative outcome anyway.. 0__0
haha don’t worry. i’m just wondering cause i have a slight morbid fascination with death cause i feel a sort of cosmic inspiration to question myself and the world. lol
An elaboration to Daksha, asking me “why do you believe that you just die and that’s it?”
I responded, “There is no reason to conclude otherwise, and evidence actually suggests the contrary.”
No reason to conclude otherwise:
We have no confirmed, verifiable incidences of people who are deceased making contact with the living.
We have no confirmed, verifiable incidences of people coming back to life after being declared clinically dead.
We have found no place where dead people live.
We just have not found any evidence to conclude that there is a life after death.
Evidence to suggest that life ends at death:
More and more scientific evidence documents that human emotion, human thought, human action is the product of energy interacting with our brain matter. If the energy in our brains disperses after death, and the matter decomposes, then what is there to create life?
We have an intense aversion to death. If life after death is really all that great, why aren’t we taking risks to get there? We feel we have a precious, one time thing. Most of us enjoy it, and want to have it as long as possible.
we have no proof that there is life after death. emotion, thought, and action is all energy in our brain. this energy disperses after death, i agree. but you surely know that energy can not be destroyied(sp?) but only gained or lost. perhaps it is this energy that is life, that cause our exsistence. so what happens to it when we die is yet to be explained.
i think our aversion to death is caused by a lack of belief and overpowering uncertainty in whatever an individual believes. seeing as how we can easily swing the data either way to help prove either side about death, i think that people are afraid of death because they do not know what to think about it.
You can’t swing the data either way.
Verum Causa wrote:
You can’t swing the data either way.
give someone enough reason(money) and they’ll find a way.
I suspect their results will be rejected by the brightest human minds.
most likely, unless the brightest minds are in favor of the altered results. the problem arises when you place a person in among any plan. everything looks good on paper
I don’t see any basis for that conclusion.
for what? the “everything looks good on paper”?
That the brightest minds would accept and promote skewed results in favor of their personal beliefs.
Daksha Cromwell wrote:
for what? the “everything looks good on paper”?
But on a tangent, yes. I don’t see any basis for that conclusion either.
what i meant was that a person is more likely to accept false information if it agrees with their beliefs or actions more so then they would accept true data if it disagreed with them.
Verum Causa wrote:
Daksha Cromwell wrote:But on a tangent, yes. I don’t see any basis for that conclusion either.
for what? the “everything looks good on paper”?
the main idea i meant behind the statement was that many ideas sound good and show the promise of working to perfection. until you actually try them in real life, where under the pressure of natural occurences and the ever changing needs and thoughts of humanity, it cracks.
Well sure. Anything that agrees with your preconceived notions is more agreeable, but I come down on the side that objectivity will win out. But why conclude that scientists believe in an afterlife?
i did not specify scientists in any way. the brightest minds are not defined to be only scientists. there is more to life then the things that science can dissect and describe.
That’s what you think.
Verum Causa wrote:
That’s what you think.
ahh good. i forgot to say that that was my viewpoint on life. i try not to place my ideology as fact because who knows what really happens or what is the truth.
Artists are important too. But generally they aren’t consulted on empirical matters.
but who’s to say that they know nothing? perhaps they have an insight into matters beyond science. examples escape me at the moment but there must be more than one type of the brightest minds because there is more then one aspect of human knowledge. you have science/mathematics, astronomy, geography, psychology, artistic, and many other facets to the great gem that is know as knowledge.
And assuming philosophical naturalism is correct, all those things boil down to math and physics.
and in which lies the problem. math and physics are tools created by humans to deal with the world around them. they are used to describe normal and sometimes abnormal occurences.
So? That’s not a problem.
in a sense yes and again no. it is when you considered the idea that if all of knowledge is created by humans, all of our understanding is the cause of people trying to control their surroundings. but we can see and feel things that can not be explained by our understanding. what are these things if they can not be explained? there is no equation that you can put numbers in to get emotions. there is no known forumla to life. yet we have life and we have emotions.
Daksha Cromwell wrote:
but we can see and feel things that can not be explained by our understanding. what are these things if they can not be explained? there is no equation that you can put numbers in to get emotions. there is no known forumla to life. yet we have life and we have emotions.
That’s not true. There is an explanation, we just don’t know it yet/haven’t learned enough.
Verum Causa wrote:
Daksha Cromwell wrote:That’s not true. There is an explanation, we just don’t know it yet/haven’t learned enough.
but we can see and feel things that can not be explained by our understanding. what are these things if they can not be explained? there is no equation that you can put numbers in to get emotions. there is no known forumla to life. yet we have life and we have emotions.
yes i know there is an explanation but i’m saying that our mathimatically-dependent way of thinking is not capable of showing yet (or in my opinion, will ever be).
Good luck with that.
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