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What would happen if martial law were declared in the US?

I ask because both Representative Sherman and Representative James Inhofe claim that our current US Treasury Secretary threatened martial law would have to be implemented should not the bail out pass. Obviously it did. My question is what would martial law mean for the United States of America?

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imgammoni offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (35 minutes after post)

Wikipedia describes Martial Law as a military action in place of law enforcement.
It also offers thi on the US:

“United States of America

See also: Suspension clause

The martial law concept in the U.S. is closely tied with the right of habeas corpus, which is in essence the right to a hearing on lawful imprisonment, or more broadly, the supervision of law enforcement by the judiciary. The ability to suspend habeas corpus is often equated with martial law. Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution states, “The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion, the public Safety may require it.”

In United States law, martial law is limited by several court decisions that were handed down between the American Civil War and World War II. In 1878, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids military involvement in domestic law enforcement without congressional approval. The Military Commissions Act of 2006 possibly rescinds these limits by suspending habeas corpus, but the law is not clear on whether it applies to U.S. Citizens. Since, USNORTHCOM [6] has increased its direct involvement with civilian administration.”

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chev.jame offline Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 19 minutes after post)

Essentially, civil liberties would be curtailed. Censorship could be imposed on the news media.

And, folks, I hate to tell you this . . . but we are on the very brink of collapse.

Great Depression II . . . brought to you by those members of the big business community who placed greed above all else, and the government officials who accepted bribes from them.

I wish I were just being cynical. But I’m not.

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*Dougie* offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 40 minutes after post)

I’m just glad I don’t live there!

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chev.jame offline Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (5 hours, 6 minutes after post)

I’ve got to tell you folks, that every time I go into a store and find EVERYTHING is made in China, I think about those greedy, low-life CEOs that sent our jobs overseas and sold out our people so they could go from rich to obscenely rich. We have allowed banks and retail chains to charge as much as 29 percent interest on credit cards, and we have allowed adjustable rate mortgages that caused people’s house payments to triple in just a few short years. We have allowed oil speculators and oil companies to gouge the public without mercy for the last five years, and thereby allowed the standard of living to be depressed for millions of families. We have allowed our legislators to take bribes from the health insurance companies, so that we could not have universal health care like Canada and Europe. We listened to our President tell us how bad socialism was, until the fat cats got into trouble, and then socialism was as American as apple pie. Anyway, people, we are nearly bankrupt now, and the first time China turns us down for a loan (guess who’s been financing the war in Iraq? That’s right–China!), we will have to start printing worthless money so we can continue to make payments out of the public treasury.

Do any of you remember the hyper-inflation in Germany’s Weimar Republic? The inflation then was so bad that you needed a bigger box for the money you would spend at the grocer’s than the box needed for carrying home the groceries. People would see a 100,000 Deutschmark note on the ground, and just walk by . . . because the money was that worthless. WE ARE HEADED THE SAME WAY AS THE WEIMAR REPUBLIC.

The sad thing is, we did this to ourselves, or rather, we allowed the rich and powerful to do it to us. Our elected representatives didn’t do their jobs, because they were more interested in lining their pockets with bribes than looking out for the interests of the little people.

It’s going to get really bad, folks, and unless we have an FDR in Obama, we’re going down the tubes for good.

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M. Wright offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (7 hours, 51 minutes after post)

America started going down the drain when the industrial revolution occurred. Start by changing that, and you’ve solved the problem.

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ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 210 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (8 hours, 4 minutes after post)

as for the martial law I had to google it i’m not sure i’d want the military taking over our laws

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M. Wright offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (8 hours, 5 minutes after post)

I’ve reported that reply. It’s best not to quote it so that the moderators don’t have to remove your replies as well.

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ĐaNi HaŦeS ŸoŪ offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Help.com Volunteer Moderator Long Term User Shouts: 210 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (8 hours, 6 minutes after post)

i know but you didn’t tell me you reported it :P

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chev.jame offline Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (12 hours, 13 minutes after post)

Would agree with Verum on IR . . . it wrecked our social structure. The “Unabomber,” Prof. Kaczynski, was right about that. The extended family was doomed by the flight to cramped, tenement apartments in the cities, and families’ “support networks” collapsed.

Because of the IR, we are now more “alone” than we have ever been.

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M. Wright offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 day, 10 hours after post)

I disagree with you on those ideas. I think we are more networked and globalized then ever before, and I think it could not have come at a worse time in worse ways.

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chev.jame offline Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 day, 11 hours after post)

I DO agree with you on those points, and was referring to the individual family in the sense of being “alone.” The aunts, uncles, grandparents and cousins who could lend a hand often live far away.

I have come to the conclusion that “globalization,” as it is currently configured, is just not working for us. Our workers cannot compete with slave labor, or laborers making 19 cents a day in factories with no safety standards.

For proof, just walk into Wal-Mart. The ratio of stuff made in China to goods made in the USA is about 100 to one. We’ve sold our soul to China . . . and our grandkids will still be paying off our debts to China long after our bodies are dust.

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M. Wright offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 day, 12 hours after post)

I was thinking more along the lines of sectarianism. I think it’s no question that there are a number of issues - not excluding the economy - that are dividing not only people in the United States, but people in the world. I would go so far as to state that the level of division is as high as it was shortly before the American Civil War.

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chev.jame offline Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 day, 12 hours after post)

Yes, we have very sharp divisions now between the classes . . . between the haves and have nots.

It has occurred to me that when it gets to be as bad–or worse–as in the Great Depression, people of this day and time will react quite differently. Instead of pulling together like people did in the 1930s, there won’t be the same spirit of sharing and caring. Hell, we don’t even know who our next door neighbors are in most cases!

I see riots, burning cities, looting, and a general breakdown in law and order. I think a lot of CEOs are going to move to Europe. There’s going to be a lot of angry people out there.

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SoulRising offline Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (3 days, 3 hours after post)

“The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”
Edmund Burke 1729-1797

“We must obey GOD rather than men.” Acts 5:29

M. Wright offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (3 days, 9 hours after post)

A god would do nothing to help this nation. It is foolishness to turn to one, existent or nonexistent, for worldly salvation.

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chev.jame offline Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (3 days, 12 hours after post)

God does not make it a habit to help people who do not help themselves. I cannot recall a single miracle in the Bible in which witnesses were not asked to perform some task, such as rolling away the stone from Lazarus’ tomb.

We’ve got a lot of things to fix in this country. Class divisions are sharper than ever. People are literally dying because they don’t have access to health care. Families are being thrown into the street. Until we start thinking of ourselves as a nation, rather than just so many competing humans lumped together, I don’t think all the prayers in the world will avail us anything.

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rubiol offline Unverified User #
An Unknown Location | 8 months, 2 weeks ago (3 months after post)

does anyone see the amero coming into the picture? the collapse of the dollar is a stepping stone to the NAFT, and americans losing their rights.

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An Unknown Location | 3 months, 3 weeks ago (7 months, 3 weeks after post)

The Martial Law although not yet declared in the USA, it has already been signed as an agreement way back in 2005.

The International Partnership on Avian and Pandemic Influenza signed by President George W. Bush in November 2005 still stands. This 2005 semi-secret international agreement

renders the government of the United States and its relevant laws and statutes, as well as your American Constitution and Bill of Rights, subservient to the authority of the United Nations and its World Health Organization.

Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other’s borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal: http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/ne…

Take a look at the following video (DailyNewscaster.com removed this news when people flocked to read about FEMA and DHS preparing for mass graves):
http://www.youtube.com/v/FDtd7Iy5Ey8&…

Also, you may wish to check the Martial Law Bill for Massachusetts - the bill specifically mandates the following:

(1) to require the owner or occupier of premises to permit entry into and investigation of the premises;

(2) to close, direct, and compel the evacuation of, or to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated any building or facility, and to allow the reopening of the building or facility when the danger has ended;

(3) to decontaminate or cause to be decontaminated, or to destroy any material;

(4) to restrict or prohibit assemblages of persons;

(5) to require a health care facility to provide services or the use of its facility, or to transfer the management and supervision of the health care facility to the department or to a local public health authority;

(6) to control ingress to and egress from any stricken or threatened public area, and the movement of persons and materials within the area;

(7) to adopt and enforce measures to provide for the safe disposal of infectious waste and human remains, provided that religious, cultural, family, and individual beliefs of the deceased person shall be followed to the extent possible when disposing of human remains, whenever that may be done without endangering the public health;

(8) to procure, take immediate possession from any source, store, or distribute any anti-toxins, serums, vaccines, immunizing agents, antibiotics, and other pharmaceutical agents or medical supplies located within the commonwealth as may be necessary to respond to the emergency;

(9) to require in-state health care providers to assist in the performance of vaccination, treatment, examination, or testing of any individual as a condition of licensure, authorization, or the ability to continue to function as a health care provider in the commonwealth. Any person who knowingly violates an order of the commissioner or his or her designee, or of a local public health authority or its designee, given to effectuate the purposes of this subsection shall be punished by imprisonment for not more than 6 months, or by a fine of note more than one thousand dollars, or both.

The Martial Law is expected to be declared as part of the H1N1 vaccine emergency plan. Be very afraid or you can do something and petition against forced vaccines.

Currently enough H1N1 Vaccines are produced by Baxter (WHO ordered for manufacture) for world population. If people refused the vaccines, that’s money down the drain for them. WHO, Baxter, Sanofis, etc cannot afford this “loss” but there’s something more sinister than just the H1N1 Swine flu because I verily believe the H1N1 Vaccines are meant for mass-genocide. Google for “Jane Burgermeister.)

Best regards
kelly

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