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horse owners help needed!

i own a 18 year old mare who has a severe seperation anxiety. we know she has previously had two foals (one when she was 6years old).
she wont let horses leave/leave horses.
when this hapens she rears,barges,gallops continously round field, breaks through electric fences etc
i CAN take her away on hacks for hours and she is fine. doesnt bother at all.
but most nights we have to scrape the sweat of her and its heartbreaking.
we are considering getting a field and a companion so we can control the situation but im not sure if it might make things worse.
so any ideas would be great! as she is getting worse!
thanks forany help. :)

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littlenick online Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 126 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (3 minutes after post)

Have you tried gradual separation?

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leanne_3_ offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (4 minutes after post)

yeah. we have tried almost everything. its just really difficult since its not our horse and the lady isnt willing to work with us.

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leanne_3_ offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (4 minutes after post)

*not our horse shes attached to

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littlenick online Verified User (1 year, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 126 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (7 minutes after post)

Have you tried tranquilizing it and just taking her somewhere where when she wakes up and throws a fit when she realizes she’s alone but after she throws the fit and finally realizes that being alone may not be so bad? Cold Turkey!

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leanne_3_ offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (9 minutes after post)

yeah suppose.
haha.
however, she tends to just keep running and running. so doest really settle at all till the other horse is back. (last time she galloped for about 3 hours non stop.)worried incase she does herself some damage.

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (34 minutes after post)

Yeah, you don’t want to do that then. She might blow up if she runs for a long time! I don’t have anything else, sorry!

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leanne_3_ offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (35 minutes after post)

haha. yeah. i;d make a bit of a mess.
thanks for your time anyway.
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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (35 minutes after post)

Let me invite all my friends and I think a couple of them have horses and they might be able to help you. You have to keep on checking your post to see if somebody answers OK? BTW I have almost 300 friends here!

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leanne_3_ offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (40 minutes after post)

Ah that would be great! thanks! :]

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (43 minutes after post)

hm… well the only thing i can think of is getting a horse trainer. youd need a really good one though. like my uncle is a horse whisperer. he deals with stuff like this all the time. i dont know how expensive it is though, but id try calling someone like him.
his work is really amazing!

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leanne_3_ offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (44 minutes after post)

yeah we had thought about it but the woman wont come out for just one horse *takes a rage* she will only come out for 6 + horses and its only us wanting to see her.
are you british?

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Kimmi 22 offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (48 minutes after post)

I would suggest getting the horse a companion. Put a donkey or a retired horse/pony in the field. Lots of people have horses that are sweet and are just retired turned out in a field for the rest of their lives. Why not get one of those horses for free and a friend for the mare to keep company with.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (50 minutes after post)

yeah. how could we do it without the cmpanion getting attached?

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Kimmi 22 offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (54 minutes after post)

Well there is no guarantee of no attachment, but sounds to me that your mare is lonely. I think I would weigh the differences. Better to have a horse that is running crazy through the night sweating and possibly end up with colic or hurting herself on something and threatnening her health or to have a horse that is sound at night with an attached friend.

I think I would pick the attached friend if it were me.

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leanne_3_ offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (55 minutes after post)

yeah your right. thank very much!

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Kimmi 22 offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (57 minutes after post)

Your welcome I hope everything works out in the best way it can. :)

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (57 minutes after post)

nope im canadian

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (58 minutes after post)

ah i see.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour after post)

my uncle (the horse whisperer i was talking about) goes to england a lot though.. im guessing thats where youre from.

i could ask him if hes going anytime soon and then get back to you?

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour after post)

Scotland.
near Edinburgh.
yeah that would be great.

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Barbyman offline Verified User (2 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 1 minute after post)

the only thing i can think of ,put her in a stable with a goat a rooster some sort of Companion.I knew of one Man he floated his Horse with a Duck to the races .The Duck was the Horses Companion…

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 2 minutes after post)

she’d eat the goat haha. shes a beast!

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 12 minutes after post)

I have a friend that is studding to be a vet, she raises horses, I will give her a call, get back to you later :)

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 12 minutes after post)

studying

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leanne_3_ offline Verified User (1 year, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 13 minutes after post)

Aww thanks xD

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Left offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 24 minutes after post)

Horses are not meant to be alone. They need companionship. They get on well with donkeys if you don’t want another horse. See if you can adopt an abandoned donkey from a sanctuary.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 27 minutes after post)

Leanne i have broken in Lame Horses Blind Horses Wild Horses all types of Horses Spoiled horses .Its a shame now i have the time if you were around the Corner i would give you my time with That Horse .With in a Day or two she is a pootty Cat..

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 30 minutes after post)

where do you live?

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 49 minutes after post)

I spoke to my friend she suggested you may be able to borrow a stable buddy and see how she does with it (a mini pony, or even a goat) the only way she will know is by process of elimination

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Left offline Verified User (1 year, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 5 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 52 minutes after post)

Or a donkey….

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 14 minutes after post)

leanne I’m i Australia..yes libragirl is right by elimination.Start of small a Rabbit .If she kills the rabbit you know it didn’t work.At least a Rooster will fly away.Put a try of Food in the same stable for the rooster.If she kills the Rooster you know it didn’t work.Build up don’t get a female donkey get a Boy Donkey.Well if she kills the donkey i run out of Ideas..

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (3 hours, 38 minutes after post)

You have to learn how to think like a horse to understand her. Is she the leader or the follower? Determining that will help determine her needs. Is she afraid of being left alone or is she afraid that she can not protect her heard. Horses are very instinctual. They need to belong or protect. One step at a time. If you could positively reinforce her while the other horse is away. I would seek the help of a professional if possible. Horses will literally run themselves to the ground with obsession. A complete change in her environment may help, but it will take lots lots of supervision until she adjusts. Her anxiety may increase at first. If she can smell or hear the other horse it won’t help. She may need find a different “herd”. So as others stated, finding a pony, goat, chicken or otherwise that she can go to may be helpful.

You may just define yourself as the leader. Then she will look to you for instruction. Right now she is not feeling safe for whatever reason.

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Gloversville, NY, US | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (7 hours, 23 minutes after post)

this horse is having a fit when one particular horse is away? im wondering if when that horse is away, if that horse too is having issues being away from her as well..
do you know why the other horse is away at times?
i would agree with the one comment above, getting another horse who is her age or getting a mule… that is what my aunt did.. she got a mule and her horse loves him and doesnt know the difference. having a companion that doesnt leave all the time will make her feel better… so maybe when the other horse leaves, she will still have a friend there with her…

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Kanabi offline Verified User (1 year, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (8 hours, 47 minutes after post)

What I found helps was to gradually take it away. If you have an arena, ride there for a short amount of time, then let her back out with her buddy. You need to show her, like BFree said, whose boss. Show her that your her companion also. Hope this helps.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 day after post)

yeah, the other horse gets taken away to competetions/hacks etc. the other horse doesnt care at all. They arnt even in the same field! its definatly an insecurity however, she doesnt seem to care if its her thats gettin ridden away. I think im going to give the companion idea a go.
hate to see her stressing.
thanks for all your help everyone! definatly helped! :]

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Gloversville, NY, US | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 day, 9 hours after post)

let us know how it goes… and good luck.

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (1 day, 22 hours after post)

Wild horses:) how can you tame the heart. She has obviously loved and lost, she knows what is important. Blinders may help during separation episodes. Another horse would be helpful but only if she bonds with it. Horses are like people, the right relationship is nourishing, the wrong, is debilitating. She wants to be with her own kind, horses are meant to live in groups (of their choice) and run wild, she is only following her heart, be patient, be kind.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 3 weeks ago (2 days, 4 hours after post)

Crap! I came too late! I do agree with the Companion too, a dog would be nice, I have seen that work out very well. I love animals! :D

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An Unknown Location | 10 months, 3 weeks ago (4 weeks, 1 day after post)

Hi there,
I hope this helps.
I think the best thing for her is to have companions in the field with her. I know you don’t want to becuase of her anxiety but it is important for them. Also, I think spending time with her in a ring on her own, you and her spending time, getting her to respond to her your cues and follow her listening to you. She should develop an attachement to you as hers, and from there you can teach her what is okay to do and what is not. Be sure to not demish her feelings but encourage them and from there you can teach the correct ones and develop skills with her not bad habbits. Just like a child, encourage the good not the bad and be a close friend but a firm one whos in charge.

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