I’m having a hard time understanding why parents teach their kids gifts come from Santa Claus.
Doesn’t it get to you that you bust your *** to get your kids these gifts and this novelty fat man gets the praise? You teach your kids not to lie then you tell them that Santa Claus exists. Hypocrisy? Wouldn’t it hurt them to find out that Santa Claus was really just an old fable to make kids feel good? What is the fascination with Santa anyway? He seems creepy and almost like a pedophile to me. Look at the signs… Kids “sit on his lap,” he sneaks in your house at night, comes down the chimney, and he tiptoes around your house to put gifts under the tree. His laugh is weird to say the very least, “Ho, Ho, Ho.” What’s the deal with that? If someone was really creeping around your house on Christmas Eve you’d grab a knife. What are you going to tell your kids then? They’re going to think you plan to stab their beloved Santa. It just seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
Discuss…
P.s. I can almost smell the comparisons to religion brewing. Please don’t turn this into a religious conversation. Thanks! :)

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well… the reason it works is exactly for spiritual reasons… so I guess I can’t respond to the question.
No i totally understand, and your religious comment busted my bubble, I have always had that theory about god. But thats all there is to it. But i def agree with your santa theory.
I think it’s okay.
Children have a vivid imagination, why not let them dream while they can?
Or we could tell them just how unfair and cold this world actually is, and we’ll see how happy they’ll be then..?
Its a fun thing for kids, we didn’t “teach” them about Santa we told them the origin behind it. My husband used to dress up as Santa when they were little and sneak around the back of the house. Id sit indoors with the kids and watch him come into the back garden, eat the cookies we had put out, and drink the milk. The look on the kids faces was a picture, its a fantasy thing a happy moment in a kids life. They knew we bought the gifts but Santa delivered them, not that its important who paid for them, the fact they were happy was the main thing. :-)
Commander Ikari wrote:
HEY HEY HEY!Santa IS real!@
Sure he is Ikari. And he gets insurance from Progressive just like the commercial says.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Commander Ikari wrote:Sure he is Ikari. And he gets insurance from Progressive just like the commercial says.
HEY HEY HEY!Santa IS real!@
nah, that Commercial is a filthy liar.
Sasha101 wrote:
Its a fun thing for kids, we didn’t “teach” them about Santa we told them the origin behind it. My husband used to dress up as Santa when they were little and sneak around the back of the house. Id sit indoors with the kids and watch him come into the back garden, eat the cookies we had put out, and drink the milk. The look on the kids faces was a picture, its a fantasy thing a happy moment in a kids life. They knew we bought the gifts but Santa delivered them, not that its important who paid for them, the fact they were happy was the main thing. :-)
Look at their faces????
Check this out… http://www.chicagotribune.com/feature…
I believe it is more about opening up a child’s imagination and promoting love. Santa gives presents because he is kind, caring, loving–not necessarily bad traits to be trying to teach children. It also teaches children to behave themselves.
In 1897 and Editorial was written by Frank Church entitled, “Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus”.
It is the most famous editorial anywhere, and it has been the most re-published editorial ever. If you’ve never read it, it is recommended reading.
burgerkrieg wrote:
I believe it is more about opening up a child’s imagination and promoting love. Santa gives presents because he is kind, caring, loving–not necessarily bad traits to be trying to teach children. It also teaches children to behave themselves.
Why not open their minds up with real people? There are real philanthropists. There are real life good people who give selflessly. Why lie to children? That seems so mean.
Thanks Richard. I’ll check that out.
Thats one creepy looking Santa lol, Santa’s are usually chosen because of their kind expression most of the ones Ive seen in stores are Jolly nice men. I guess if you have a negative outlook to them you will only see the bad side. We have a local guy here who is a genuine lovely guy, he even has a nameplate on his car Santa 1 . I think in this day and age, kids need something happy to look forward to. :-)
for some reason adults don’t believe in Santa Claus.
Just because you can’t see him ,he is real.
We can’t see air.But we know it exists.
Santa Claus is the collective conciousness of millions
of people all over the world working for one cause.
That cause is called Santa Claus.
Know by very many names in many countries.
Sasha191 there are more. Keep looking at the pictures.
spiratec9 wrote:
for some reason adults don’t believe in Santa Claus.Just because you can’t see him ,he is real.We can’t see air.But we know it exists.Santa Claus is the collective conciousness of millionsof people all over the world working for one cause.That cause is called Santa Claus.Know by very many names in many countries.
that article said that you may as well believe in fairies.
Well sorry but farries exist as well.
We could not live without them.
They do much of the important procceses that make life possible.
Richard cor de lyon wrote:
In 1897 and Editorial was written by Frank Church entitled, “Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus”.It is the most famous editorial anywhere, and it has been the most re-published editorial ever. If you’ve never read it, it is recommended reading.http://www.newseum.org/yesvirginia/
Read it. That’s Santa in the philosophical sense. My point was, at some point there will be an awakening. When the cold harsh reality sets in, that there is no actual Santa. I get what the article was trying to say. The spirit of Santa and such. I get that, but like I said why not just point that positive energy to real people who do real things. Those are the real heros, no?
Ok Im going to get shot down for this, but you cant see God but people believe in his Spirit don’t they ? Its a belief isn’t it?
It all lies in the definition of Santa.
Same with faries.
Most faries don’t at all look like the clasical farie.
And Santa also dosn’t look like the clasical Santa.
But not the varriation of even that image int the world.
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Sasha101 wrote:
Ok Im going to get shot down for this, but you cant see God but people believe in his Spirit don’t they ? Its a belief isn’t it?
It more than belief,the masters such as Jesus,Mohamed,Budda,
they know God exists.
Sasha101 wrote:
Ok Im going to get shot down for this, but you cant see God but people believe in his Spirit don’t they ? Its a belief isn’t it?
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
P.s. I can almost smell the comparisons to religion brewing. Please don’t turn this into a religious conversation. Thanks! :)
spiratec9 wrote:
Sasha101 wrote:It more than belief,the masters such as Jesus,Mohamed,Budda,they know God exists.
Ok Im going to get shot down for this, but you cant see God but people believe in his Spirit don’t they ? Its a belief isn’t it?
In the same way I know Santa exists.
Except in the case of Santa the small grain has grown to a big tree.
Belief is controlled by the mind, people either believe in both or they don’t, each is entitled to his own thoughts.Whether it be God or Santa the myth was created by man.The books are written by man on it goes and on it goes. As is said from small seeds big Acorns grow :-)
Santa Claus is not a small grain of truth… it is a tradition passed down centuries - http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?…
It’s impossible to speak of Santa without entering into religion a little bit because Santa is passed down from Saint Nicholas, A real man, and Christmas is primarily about giving, which Saint Nick was known for.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
I dont see the harm in it because once they get older they will be filled with happy memories and will eventually know from school and such that santa doesnt exist
Commander Ikari wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
spiratec9 wrote:
Commander Ikari wrote:Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
Feeling fine Spiratec.
spiratec9 wrote:
Commander Ikari wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
You see how damaging it is.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:You see how damaging it is.
Commander Ikari wrote:Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
Hey! I am not damaged!
skyy wrote:
I dont see the harm in it because once they get older they will be filled with happy memories and will eventually know from school and such that santa doesnt exist
another disbeliever Santa does exist.Wake up.
Richard cor de lyon wrote:
Santa Claus is not a small grain of truth… it is a tradition passed down centuries - http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?…It’s impossible to speak of Santa without entering into religion a little bit because Santa is passed down from Saint Nicholas, A real man, and Christmas is primarily about giving, which Saint Nick was known for.
This is what i taught my kids, mayor this is a big tradition, its simply an enjoyment for the children, most adults explain it all at some point. I dont see the harm in letting your kids enjoy, don’t make parents out to be liars, it isn’t like that at all.
Commander Ikari wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:Hey! I am not damaged!
spiratec9 wrote:You see how damaging it is.
Commander Ikari wrote:Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
To my way of thinking Commander has come to his senses.Good on you.
I wonder how many parents are in this conversation. Of the parents in this conversation WHEN did you tell your children there is no Santa Claus? That mom and/or dad buy ALL the presents under the tree, and it’s Dad that normally eats the cookies and carrots. Did that conversation ever take place with your children? It never took place in my house. But I can assure you my 18 year old, and 12 year old no longer believe in Santa… I have an 11 year old keeping the illusion alive because she loves the fantasy… heck… I still love the fantasy - don’t you? It’s a wonderful example of giving.
So in your eyes it’s not a lie?Sasha101 wrote:
Richard cor de lyon wrote:This is what i taught my kids, mayor this is a big tradition, its simply an enjoyment for the children, most adults explain it all at some point. I dont see the harm in letting your kids enjoy, don’t make parents out to be liars, it isn’t like that at all.
Santa Claus is not a small grain of truth… it is a tradition passed down centuries - http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?… impossible to speak of Santa without entering into religion a little bit because Santa is passed down from Saint Nicholas, A real man, and Christmas is primarily about giving, which Saint Nick was known for.
spiratec9 wrote:
Commander Ikari wrote:To my way of thinking Commander has come to his senses.Good on you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:Hey! I am not damaged!
spiratec9 wrote:You see how damaging it is.
Commander Ikari wrote:Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
Oh no Spiratec, that whole super martian man thing is still ********, just happens that Santa is real.
I’ll never understand it. Personally, I discourage the practice. But it’s suppose to be thrilling to the children whom believe in this old, rotound jolly man. Furthermore, their gifts are being measured in accordance to their behavior. So I suppose if the kid is naughty, then the parent(s) will be at ease with their finances.
Commander Ikari wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:Oh no Spiratec, that whole super martian man thing is still ********, just happens that Santa is real.
Commander Ikari wrote:To my way of thinking Commander has come to his senses.Good on you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:Hey! I am not damaged!
spiratec9 wrote:You see how damaging it is.
Commander Ikari wrote:Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
One day Commander,one day.
jjlove wrote:
When my son started kindergarten a gang of rogue second graders felt a need to tell him that Santa isn’t real. Devasted, he came home from school to tell me what they had said. My reply startled him. I just looked real sad and surprised and sad, “Wow, I feel sorry for those kids.” Not expecting this response, he said, “Why mom?” I said, “Because when you stop believing is when he stops coming.” Smart kid that he is he shot back, “Well, I believe. I’m just telling you what they said.” :-) At 24, he’s still afraid to admit to me that he knows Santa isn’t real.But seriously, I think it’s important to explain to kids the spirit of giving (not just gifts, but of ourselves), and that’s what the real myth of Santa represents.
So you’re saying he’s stuck in the lie that was created? Why were those kids “rouge” for telling him the truth? Seems you’re the culprit that lied to him.
spiratec9 wrote:
Commander Ikari wrote:One day Commander,one day.
spiratec9 wrote:Oh no Spiratec, that whole super martian man thing is still ********, just happens that Santa is real.
Commander Ikari wrote:To my way of thinking Commander has come to his senses.Good on you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:Hey! I am not damaged!
spiratec9 wrote:You see how damaging it is.
Commander Ikari wrote:Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
If it happens I’ll give you a hundred bucks/a free diner at a nice restaurant, how’s that?
one stumbling block with Santa is thinking he is a single Man.
Same with God.They are not men.
They are groups of all people.Collectively.
Commander Ikari wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:If it happens I’ll give you a hundred bucks/a free diner at a nice restaurant, how’s that?
Commander Ikari wrote:One day Commander,one day.
spiratec9 wrote:Oh no Spiratec, that whole super martian man thing is still ********, just happens that Santa is real.
Commander Ikari wrote:To my way of thinking Commander has come to his senses.Good on you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:Hey! I am not damaged!
spiratec9 wrote:You see how damaging it is.
Commander Ikari wrote:Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
That you I will take you up on that,soon.
Its all to do with Fantasy, we went on train rides in Germany on an old fashioned train, Santa would be sitting on his sleigh drawn by white horses at the end of the ride. Once there the kids would receive gifts from him, it was a beautiful thing for the kids, my goodness whats wrong with you imagination mayor lol.People are going out of their way to spoil an all time tradition here,have some kids, see the joy on their faces, then you’ll appreciate the joy it brings to you.
spiratec9 wrote:
Commander Ikari wrote:That you I will take you up on that,soon.
spiratec9 wrote:If it happens I’ll give you a hundred bucks/a free diner at a nice restaurant, how’s that?
Commander Ikari wrote:One day Commander,one day.
spiratec9 wrote:Oh no Spiratec, that whole super martian man thing is still ********, just happens that Santa is real.
Commander Ikari wrote:To my way of thinking Commander has come to his senses.Good on you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:Hey! I am not damaged!
spiratec9 wrote:You see how damaging it is.
Commander Ikari wrote:Commander are you feeling O.K. this is not like you.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:It is not a lie, as Santa is real.
So theres nothing with all the adults conspiring to lie to an impressionable child in an elaborate scheme to make them feel good?
We’ll see, Spiratec :)
Sasha101 wrote:
Its all to do with Fantasy, we went on train rides in Germany on an old fashioned train, Santa would be sitting on his sleigh drawn by white horses at the end of the ride. Once there the kids would receive gifts from him, it was a beautiful thing for the kids, my goodness whats wrong with you imagination mayor lol.People are going out of their way to spoil an all time tradition here,have some kids, see the joy on their faces, then you’ll appreciate the joy it brings to you.
My imagination is fine. THIS is an elaborate lie. The elves have names, the reindeer have names, there are songs, there are grown men in fat suits, etc.
jjlove wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:Whoa, chill out, Mayor. Of course he knows Santa isn’t real, and no, he has never considered me a dishonest person. We have always talked about everything. And no, he is not damaged in the least over any of it, any more than he is over the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy. In fact, when he was seven, he caught me red-handed taking a tooth out from under his pillow while exchanging it for money. He opened his eyes and said, “Aha. I just knew you were the tooth fairy, mom!” I said, “Oh no, don’t tell the other kids, OK?” He thought about that for about two seconds then gave me a big toothless grin. We still laugh about that today. :-)
So you’re saying he’s stuck in the lie that was created? Why were those kids “rouge” for telling him the truth? Seems you’re the culprit that lied to him.
No offense to you. I didn’t mean it that way. I’m just saying… a lie is a lie.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Sasha101 wrote:My imagination is fine. THIS is an elaborate lie. The elves have names, the reindeer have names, there are songs, there are grown men in fat suits, etc.
Its all to do with Fantasy, we went on train rides in Germany on an old fashioned train, Santa would be sitting on his sleigh drawn by white horses at the end of the ride. Once there the kids would receive gifts from him, it was a beautiful thing for the kids, my goodness whats wrong with you imagination mayor lol.People are going out of their way to spoil an all time tradition here,have some kids, see the joy on their faces, then you’ll appreciate the joy it brings to you.
It’s completely crazy.
you cannot see happiness or kindness.
You can’t buy kindness or happiness.
But it still exists.
jjlove wrote:
A harmless fantasy isn’t the same as a lie, and my point was that it’s all in how you explain it.
Dictionary.com wrote:
lie1 [lahy] Show IPA Pronunciation
noun, verb, lied, ly⋅ing.
–noun
1. a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
jjlove wrote:
Well, I have to run now… Gotta get to the feed store to pick up some special grain to put on my roof for the little reindeer that will be here in a couple nights. :-)
excellent!!!!!!!!!!!!
jjlove wrote:
Well, I have to run now… Gotta get to the feed store to pick up some special grain to put on my roof for the little reindeer that will be here in a couple nights. :-)
Don’t forget to disable the ADT alarm so the fat man can shimmy down the chimney. The alarm might go off and their might be a scene on Christmas Eve.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
jjlove wrote:Don’t forget to disable the ADT alarm so the fat man can shimmy down the chimney. The alarm might go off and their might be a scene on Christmas Eve.
Well, I have to run now… Gotta get to the feed store to pick up some special grain to put on my roof for the little reindeer that will be here in a couple nights. :-)
Are you sure you can trust Santa.
He does steal things.
spiratec9 wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:Are you sure you can trust Santa.He does steal things.
jjlove wrote:Don’t forget to disable the ADT alarm so the fat man can shimmy down the chimney. The alarm might go off and their might be a scene on Christmas Eve.
Well, I have to run now… Gotta get to the feed store to pick up some special grain to put on my roof for the little reindeer that will be here in a couple nights. :-)
He just might. He’s an adulterer too. Isn’t there a song proclaiming that some kid saw his mommy kissing Santa?
jjlove wrote:
I feel bad for you, Mayor… ’cause if you don’t believe, he won’t be stopping to see ya! :-(Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
jjlove wrote:Don’t forget to disable the ADT alarm so the fat man can shimmy down the chimney. The alarm might go off and their might be a scene on Christmas Eve.
Well, I have to run now… Gotta get to the feed store to pick up some special grain to put on my roof for the little reindeer that will be here in a couple nights. :-)Hehehe, good one! And see there… I thought you had lost your sense of humor. :-)
I’ll never lose my sense of humor. ;)
To each their own.
But for those who do celebrate Christmas, at the end of the day its really just about putting aside the realities of this world. To brighten the lives of our children and see them happy. To let them know–and even to remind ourselves–that there is magic in this world. To bring families and people closer. Rekindle that child that is deep within all of us. It doesn’t matter if you want to teach your children about Santa or not. Just so long as you don’t lose sight of what Christmas means to you.
Love and peace to all of you!
jjlove wrote:
Santa never stole anything from us… What are you talkin’ about? What evidence can you show to prove that Santa is a thief! He ought to sue for defamation of character, and would be well within his rights to do so, you know!
According to kids all over the world he steals cookies.
jjlove wrote:
Santa never stole anything from us… What are you talkin’ about? What evidence can you show to prove that Santa is a thief! He ought to sue for defamation of character, and would be well within his rights to do so, you know!
its very simple.
Millions of cookies and milk.
jjlove wrote:
An adulterer?! Oh my gosh, that’s just down right slanderous! :-O …And no, he doesn’t steal cookies. We leave them out for him. Duh.
How does he know he has permission to eat them? Cookie thief!
spiratec9 wrote:
jjlove wrote:its very simple.Millions of cookies and milk.
Santa never stole anything from us… What are you talkin’ about? What evidence can you show to prove that Santa is a thief! He ought to sue for defamation of character, and would be well within his rights to do so, you know!
oh and a little piece of your heart.
OMG people santa isnt real so get over it lol. By the time your kids get to middle school or 1st grade they should know that santa is a fable told to millions of children each year. I mean school also teaches us that santa isnt real not just the rouge students. And just because we know he isnt real doesnt mean we cant have an imagination. Take your kids to see the nut cracker or the red nose reindeer and see if they arent just as happy as when you told them santa does exist. Im practically an adult and i still love those movies because it takes me away from reality
hmm…. Breaking and entering is against the law. I should go down to the local precinct and file a complaint.
skyy wrote:
OMG people santa isnt real so get over it lol. By the time your kids get to middle school or 1st grade they should know that santa is a fable told to millions of children each year. I mean school also teaches us that santa isnt real not just the rouge students. And just because we know he isnt real doesnt mean we cant have an imagination. Take your kids to see the nut cracker or the red nose reindeer and see if they arent just as happy as when you told them santa does exist. Im practically an adult and i still love those movies because it takes me away from reality
this is one of the greatest lies.
Parents teach a lot of things
to fit in their social rings.
They say it is to teach belief,
but all it is is vile deceit.
If they learned to tell the truth,
maybe they would become couth.
Of course that is too much to ask.
They needs be placed to the task.
spiratec9 wrote:
skyy wrote:this is one of the greatest lies.
OMG people santa isnt real so get over it lol. By the time your kids get to middle school or 1st grade they should know that santa is a fable told to millions of children each year. I mean school also teaches us that santa isnt real not just the rouge students. And just because we know he isnt real doesnt mean we cant have an imagination. Take your kids to see the nut cracker or the red nose reindeer and see if they arent just as happy as when you told them santa does exist. Im practically an adult and i still love those movies because it takes me away from reality
Because its TRUE lol
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
hmm…. Breaking and entering is against the law. I should go down to the local precinct and file a complaint.
that is the mystery of Santa does he really break in??
jjlove wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:You’re a mean one, Mr. Grinch! :-)
jjlove wrote:How does he know he has permission to eat them? Cookie thief!
An adulterer?! Oh my gosh, that’s just down right slanderous! :-O …And no, he doesn’t steal cookies. We leave them out for him. Duh.
You guys are the grinches that lie to children. EEEEEVIIILLL. lol
skyy wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:Because its TRUE lol
skyy wrote:this is one of the greatest lies.
OMG people santa isnt real so get over it lol. By the time your kids get to middle school or 1st grade they should know that santa is a fable told to millions of children each year. I mean school also teaches us that santa isnt real not just the rouge students. And just because we know he isnt real doesnt mean we cant have an imagination. Take your kids to see the nut cracker or the red nose reindeer and see if they arent just as happy as when you told them santa does exist. Im practically an adult and i still love those movies because it takes me away from reality
True and false.
spiratec9 wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:that is the mystery of Santa does he really break in??
hmm…. Breaking and entering is against the law. I should go down to the local precinct and file a complaint.
Maybe he’s a terrorist.
Yes because he did not ask to come in so he is breaking and entering into a private residence
spiratec9 wrote:
skyy wrote:True and false.
spiratec9 wrote:Because its TRUE lol
skyy wrote:this is one of the greatest lies.
OMG people santa isnt real so get over it lol. By the time your kids get to middle school or 1st grade they should know that santa is a fable told to millions of children each year. I mean school also teaches us that santa isnt real not just the rouge students. And just because we know he isnt real doesnt mean we cant have an imagination. Take your kids to see the nut cracker or the red nose reindeer and see if they arent just as happy as when you told them santa does exist. Im practically an adult and i still love those movies because it takes me away from reality
Nope its all truth
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:Maybe he’s a terrorist.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:that is the mystery of Santa does he really break in??
hmm…. Breaking and entering is against the law. I should go down to the local precinct and file a complaint.
this kind of terrorism is much desired by all children.
Its based on love.
spiratec9 wrote:
Ok Mayor come clean your just having fun with us aren’t you.??
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
What we really need is for Santa to spread to every part of the
world.So that we will end all the suffering that exists.
Once and for all.Amen
Agirl.
Answered this for Smoogie recently at http://help.com/post/228230-ok where she was asking for opinions on how to handle the Santa issue with her child.
I said..
Do what you think best. I think, given your sentiments on the subject that you should tell her that it’s a fantasy, but then allow her to participate in it to the degree that she wants. You can make it truthful and still fun, without it becoming clinical or cynical. And she should respect that others don’t have this knowledge and spreading it could diminish their fun.
Like Prisca Sapientia, I too am surprised that so many have said that discovering the truth about Santa was traumatic. My kids were both allowed to believe in Santa and it has done them no harm, just as I suffered no harm from it. My son is a teenager now, and knew when he was nine.
My daughter is only eight and still believes in Santa, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. She likes being a kid and is no hurry to grow up, and I’m not inclined to hurry her. Her best friend, though, has always been told that there’s no Santa or any of the others. This became an awkward situation once when the friend stayed over with my daughter the night before Easter. Her mom has always been adamant that the girl not “believe a lie”. While I understand that from a logical point of view, I also think something is lost, a wonder at the magic of myth.
Some parents can balance reality and story better than others, and I think that much of the disillusionment of those who feel they were “duped” might stem from the guilt-trip parents put on kids with that “Better be good, Santa is watching!” line. If done well, the tradition of Santa and the transition to full disclosure doesn’t have to be like a segment of “60 Minutes” where the perpetrators of some scandal are outed. In the book and movie The Polar Express (which by the way has zero religious references), the child protagonist wants to believe in Santa. It’s written from the perspective of an adult who took a Christmas Eve adventure to the North Pole. My daughter has a sleigh bell, like the one in the book/movie, and is fond of ringing it, and I pretend that I can’t hear it. But after trying to believe for a moment I am able to hear the bell.
I can still remember standing at our “picture window” as a child with my siblings, gazing into the night sky on Christmas Eve and “seeing” Santa’s sleigh, which was surely a passing airplane. The transition to knowledge was probably from scuttlebutt at school (I don’t remember), but I feel no betrayal now. I still believe in Santa. I just am him now.
Awwww that was nice and i LOVE The Polar Express. I just wanted to jump in the screen and be the little girl… sigh
*dies laughing @ If done well, the tradition of Santa and the transition to full disclosure doesn’t have to be like a segment of “60 Minutes” where the perpetrators of some scandal are outed. *
Thanks for that Sans. I don’t know how I missed that post.
skyy wrote:
Awwww that was nice and i LOVE The Polar Express. I just wanted to jump in the screen and be the little girl… sigh
I you knew the truth you can.
when I was little I believed that anything was possible.
Now that I am an adult I KNOW anything is possible.
resurgam wrote:
I think it’s okay.
Children have a vivid imagination, why not let them dream while they can?
Or we could tell them just how unfair and cold this world actually is, and we’ll see how happy they’ll be then..?
The higher you soar, the harder you fall and the harder you fall, the more it hurts…
As you requested I’m not going to comment on this post.
Captain K wrote:
As you requested I’m not going to comment on this post.
you just did?
Anonymous wrote:
resurgam wrote:
I think it’s okay.
Children have a vivid imagination, why not let them dream while they can?
Or we could tell them just how unfair and cold this world actually is, and we’ll see how happy they’ll be then..?The higher you soar, the harder you fall and the harder you fall, the more it hurts…
Agreed.
As you requested I’m not going to post in a religious way. I’n not a fan of religion but I will say that I teach my children about the greatest gift of all and that is Jesus Christ and what His life on earth has means for all of us.
Most Kids know what santa is by the time they are 4 or 5, they just join in because its fun
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
What is the fascination with Santa anyway? He seems creepy and almost like a pedophile to me.
That made me laugh so hard. :P
I’m honestly unsure how to answer this. I don’t have children yet.. but IMO, I think it’s harmless. Children are eventually going to grow up and realize Santa isn’t real. In the mean time though, let them enjoy their childhood. Let them believe there is a Santa and that he brings joy to all children on Christmas morning.
With my nieces and nephews, I still play along, even with the older ones who clearly know who ‘Santa’ is. Everyone just enjoys it - and actually, my aunt still puts on my gifts from ‘Santa’. Lol.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
jjlove wrote:
An adulterer?! Oh my gosh, that’s just down right slanderous! :-O …And no, he doesn’t steal cookies. We leave them out for him. Duh.How does he know he has permission to eat them? Cookie thief!
Usually there is a note sitting by the cookies and milk.
“Dear Santa …
Please enjoy the cookies and milk we have set out for you. Thank you,
-Timmy”
Something like that, lol.
Or at least that’s what I always did as a child.. :/
jjlove wrote:
Thank you for watching my back, Tiffany… Santa’s too! ;-)
No problem. :) I’ll always be a kid at heart. :D
jjlove wrote:
You told that grinchy old mayor… I admire that in a person. ;-) Guess he can’t argue with logic (but I’ll bet you $5 he’s gonna try)!
What logic? He’s a fugitive.
oh my my, santa must have forgot you last year
*shakes fist*
Why do you guys defend this criminal?
Breaking and entering
Grand theft cookie
Suspicion of sodomy
His rap sheet is getting longer by the minute.
Lol hahahaha ha ha ha
well, for my 3 year old, its way better to say his presents come from santa rather than have him know who got him more its better for him just to think they all came from the fat man
but my son doesn’t seem to care about santa he seems to think walmart is santa and will deliver
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Let’s try this again…
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I bet it still doesn’t work. This always happens to me.
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DaNi♠HaTes♠You wrote:
oh you can’t put images in post’s
Oh… Now I feel stupid. ROFL
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I’m having a hard time understanding why parents teach their kids gifts come from Santa Clause. Doesn’t it get to you that you bust your *** to get your kids these gifts and this novelty fat man gets the praise? You teach your kids not to lie then you tell them that Santa Clause exists. Hypocrisy? Wouldn’t it hurt them to find out that Santa Clause was really just an old fable to make kids feel good? What is the fascination with Santa anyway? He seems creepy and almost like a pedophile to me. Look at the signs…Kid’s “sit on his lap”, he sneaks in your house at night, comes down the chimney, and he tip toes around your house to put gifts under the tree. His laugh is weird to say the very least, “Ho, Ho, Ho.” What’s the deal with that? If someone was really creeping around your house on Christmas Eve you’d grab a knife. What are you going to tell your kids then? Their going to think you plan to stab Santa. It just seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
Discuss…
P.s. I can almost smell the comparisons to religion brewing. Please don’t turn this into a religious conversation. Thanks! :)
Why isn’t that in the FAQ? It even works when you preview your reply. Then you look like a tard when you send the reply.
i think because the switch maybe from help to CBS made it go away
it never worked as long as i been here
its like an unwritten law
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Why isn’t that in the FAQ? It even works when you preview your reply. Then you look like a tard when you send the reply.
LOL
Hey will it count if i find a fat man with a white beard and dress him as santa??
skyy wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Why isn’t that in the FAQ? It even works when you preview your reply. Then you look like a tard when you send the reply.LOL
Hey will it count if i find a fat man with a white beard and dress him as santa??
I don’t know. We might have to get some kids to point him out in a line up.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
spiratec9 wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:Are you sure you can trust Santa.He does steal things.
jjlove wrote:Don’t forget to disable the ADT alarm so the fat man can shimmy down the chimney. The alarm might go off and their might be a scene on Christmas Eve.
Well, I have to run now… Gotta get to the feed store to pick up some special grain to put on my roof for the little reindeer that will be here in a couple nights. :-)He just might. He’s an adulterer too. Isn’t there a song proclaiming that some kid saw his mommy kissing Santa?
who could resist??
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Why do you guys defend this criminal?Breaking and entering
Grand theft cookie
Suspicion of sodomyHis rap sheet is getting longer by the minute.
He’s got that lovely beard
He’s cute!
He’s happy!!!!
He has reindeer
He’s like a combination of God and your grandfather
He brings presents, even though you’ve been bad
He loves you
Florie wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Why do you guys defend this criminal?Breaking and entering
Grand theft cookie
Suspicion of sodomyHis rap sheet is getting longer by the minute.
He’s got that lovely beard
He’s cute!
He’s happy!!!!
He has reindeer
He’s like a combination of God and your grandfather
He brings presents, even though you’ve been bad
He loves you
He’s the leader of a gang of elves.
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Florie wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Why do you guys defend this criminal?Breaking and entering
Grand theft cookie
Suspicion of sodomyHis rap sheet is getting longer by the minute.
He’s got that lovely beard
He’s cute!
He’s happy!!!!
He has reindeer
He’s like a combination of God and your grandfather
He brings presents, even though you’ve been bad
He loves youHe’s the leader of a gang of elves.
LMAO! And he packs a mean herd of reindeer
skyy wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Florie wrote:
Mayor Cory Booker wrote:
Why do you guys defend this criminal?Breaking and entering
Grand theft cookie
Suspicion of sodomyHis rap sheet is getting longer by the minute.
He’s got that lovely beard
He’s cute!
He’s happy!!!!
He has reindeer
He’s like a combination of God and your grandfather
He brings presents, even though you’ve been bad
He loves youHe’s the leader of a gang of elves.
LMAO! And he packs a mean herd of reindeer
He’s a gang leader and he works his reindeer all night. That has to be against labor laws. And Rudolph’s nose is red? Seems like someone is doing some heavy drugs. People with red noses are usually into that “nose candy.”
He runs an underground sweat shop. Sure they *say* they’re elves. But are they really?
Mayor edited this post 11 months, 1 week ago. Read the previous text »
I’m having a hard time understanding why parents teach their kids gifts come from Santa Clause. Doesn’t it get to you that you bust your *** to get your kids these gifts and this novelty fat man gets the praise? You teach your kids not to lie then you tell them that Santa Clause exists. Hypocrisy? Wouldn’t it hurt them to find out that Santa Clause was really just an old fable to make kids feel good? What is the fascination with Santa anyway? He seems creepy and almost like a pedophile to me. Look at the signs…Kid’s “sit on his lap”, he sneaks in your house at night, comes down the chimney, and he tip toes around your house to put gifts under the tree. His laugh is weird to say the very least, “Ho, Ho, Ho.” What’s the deal with that? If someone was really creeping around your house on Christmas Eve you’d grab a knife. What are you going to tell your kids then? Their going to think you plan to stab Santa. It just seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
Discuss…
P.s. I can almost smell the comparisons to religion brewing. Please don’t turn this into a religious conversation. Thanks! :)
It better work this time.
Florie wrote:
He’s got that lovely beard
He’s cute!
He’s happy!!!!
He has reindeer
He’s like a combination of God and your grandfather
He brings presents, even though you’ve been bad
He loves you
And he’s jolly! ..Don’t forget that part. ^.^
Didn’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings. The post was meant as a joke. Sorry.
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Florimouse edited this post 11 months, 1 week ago. Read the previous text »
I’m having a hard time understanding why parents teach their kids gifts come from Santa Clause. Doesn’t it get to you that you bust your *** to get your kids these gifts and this novelty fat man gets the praise? You teach your kids not to lie then you tell them that Santa Clause exists. Hypocrisy? Wouldn’t it hurt them to find out that Santa Clause was really just an old fable to make kids feel good? What is the fascination with Santa anyway? He seems creepy and almost like a pedophile to me. Look at the signs…Kid’s “sit on his lap”, he sneaks in your house at night, comes down the chimney, and he tip toes around your house to put gifts under the tree. His laugh is weird to say the very least, “Ho, Ho, Ho.” What’s the deal with that? If someone was really creeping around your house on Christmas Eve you’d grab a knife. What are you going to tell your kids then? They’re going to think you plan to stab their beloved Santa. It just seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
Discuss…
P.s. I can almost smell the comparisons to religion brewing. Please don’t turn this into a religious conversation. Thanks! :)
It better work this time.
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