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I’d have jumped… only because my last sight would have been of the beautiful city rather than the inside of a burning building.

…are you actually contemplating this or just exploring a hypothetical situation?

acctually, the people jumping would have either died from the pressure of the fall, and even if they survived the fall itself, they would have been going at such a speed that any rescue tools or nets would have either broken or killed them on impact.

Yes but are you really talking life-or-death here?

I dont get this post O_o… They would die regardless so why not jump. I would rather jump than burn to death. That slow and painful were as jumping out of a window you dont feel anything but suffocation from the pressure. You wont even feel yourself hit the ground because you will be dead by then.

Businessdevelopment why do you want to commit suicide or die??

businessstartupsmall wrote:

AlphaKnight wrote:
acctually, the people jumping would have either died from the pressure of the fall, and even if they survived the fall itself, they would have been going at such a speed that any rescue tools or nets would have either broken or killed them on impact.

well, if you want to pretend that the nets would have started catching them on 20th floor or something like that, then that would make it more “realistic”)

and they would get nets up to the 2oth floor how?

do you need something very dangerous to feel your live? like becoming a street racer or joining a suicide club?

wow I meant “to feel you’re alive”

I think survival out weighs anything no matter how slim the chances are, No one knows for sure the exact odds stacked against you or anyone else so I suppose it is a weakness to say that the percentage is too high in order to give yourself reason for giving up.
Just what I think.

AlphaKnight wrote:

businessstartupsmall wrote:

AlphaKnight wrote:
acctually, the people jumping would have either died from the pressure of the fall, and even if they survived the fall itself, they would have been going at such a speed that any rescue tools or nets would have either broken or killed them on impact.

well, if you want to pretend that the nets would have started catching them on 20th floor or something like that, then that would make it more “realistic”)

and they would get nets up to the 2oth floor how?

Basically this post doesnt make sense because they had a 100% chance of dying if they stayed in the building (if they were on the top floor) and a 100% chance of death if they were to jump.

You are trying to rational something that cant be rationalized….

I’m sorry I dont understand quite what your trying to say but i think you should take the thing with the best chance of survival and change something about yourself so you will be able to function and enjoy life there as well.

i looked into this more than i should have, they were screwed either way. i would have done something crazy, like strip naked and try to make my clothes into a glider.
of corse it would fail, but i would probably be all over the internet

businessstartupsmall wrote:

Kuvri (yodaluv12) wrote:
do you need something very dangerous to feel your live? like becoming a street racer or joining a suicide club?

no — I’m simply speaking metaphoricallythe question is: continue to live, but without being able to do anything (so kind of like: just waiting to die) versus taking a “James Bond” style chance and trying something that close to impossible, but if it succeeds then I would be able to continue to live “fully”

are you an amputee?
you keep talking about them.

And you will literally die if you fail to achieve the almost impossible?
You keep saying survival and death, but then you say it’s metaphorical.

you have to do the impossible anyways.

businessstartupsmall wrote:
did I mention that I was speaking metaphorically?

yes

If you won’t actually die, I’d take the leap.

businessstartupsmall wrote:
of course if I become homeless, I will probably die sooner — and we will ALL die someday…

that why you need to fight the powah now, while you can

Do you mean in a vegetable state when you say wont be able to live your life fully?? Are you about to loose your business???

So you want to take your life in a spectacular way???

Im sorry but im trying to figure out what the heck you are talking about :S

Why?? If you dont mind me asking

Fire Bird wrote:
I have seen the news reports and such on people that jumped on that day…..This post is in bad bad bad taste ……. from an insensitive and narrow minded user.

lol

Fire Bird wrote:
I have seen the news reports and such on people that jumped on that day…..

This post is in bad bad bad taste ……. from an insensitive and narrow minded user.

Sorry but I couldn’t agree more….

yeah i didn’t think that was the greatest analogy now that i see what hes saying

What O_o that just confused me even more…. Im so lost

businessstartupsmall wrote:
because otherwise I would be crippled — I would no longer be able to contribute anything meaningful at all

Whats the point of even doing it if you might become crippled?? Whats the point of doing it at all??

i think he means mentally crippled? but not really crippled… just sort of lifeless… it’s usually not a good idea to mix physical terms and mental ones.

it’s basically you taking an event tragic in epic proportions and using it as a metaphor…negativity…absolutely.

I am sorry you are faced with a difficult decision…but to try and use that as example is in fact ignorant and rude. Some people here actually have suffered loss of friend and family in that tragedy, I lost co-workers and friends.

indeed… that’s why i thought at first he actually wanted to die…

even just jumping off a building would have been much better than actually using 9/11 as an example.

businessstartupsmall wrote:
Why does James Bond do those stunts? Because otherwise the entire mission would fail — and that’s the way it’d be with me, too: my life would be meaningless

Why do you keep using james bond as an example…. Just say what you mean and stop beating around the bush

Poster…would you please consider editing your post to a different scenario?

ok a burning building then. no need to be so specific… and it sounded like you were saying suicide, especially if you actually have a choice.

Or maybe i should just leave your post because im completely lost right now. Im glad you all understand where hes coming from because i sure as hell dont… Your little metaphors are very confusing to me

businessstartupsmall wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
even just jumping off a building would have been much better than actually using 9/11 as an example.

no, this is ENTIRELY false interpretation — we’re not talking about suicide here in ANY case. We are talking about being faced with very difficult decisions. Those are 2 ENTIRELY different things (in my book, in any case)

So why would you use 9/11 as an example if you were never talking about suicide thats the part that confused me from the beginning.

Jade wrote:
Poster…would you please consider editing your post to a different scenario?

Yes, please, because what you are implying does not have anything to do with what you stated in your post at all

sorry…it wasn’t just for me but for anyone here who would be affected by your post and it’s tastelessness.

unsubscribing now…but best of luck in what ever the decision it is you face.

businessstartupsmall wrote:
No, Jade — I feel you are overstepping here: you should not feel that your situation is the only thing that matters

What?? Are you serious?? I think something is really wrong with you and that you should take a (long) nap to figure out what exactly you are trying to get across here.

I wasnt affected by 9/11 im just completely lost which is why i think you should use another scenario so people can understand. If we dont understand where you are coming from we cant give you the advice you are seeking for

The point is that it’s a very painful topic for MANY people on here and it’d be better to use another, less specific example… especially since most people don’t get what you mean by it anyway.

businessstartupsmall wrote:

businessstartupsmall wrote:
But now that I think about it more, my odds are a little better. For me, it’s more like I have a 90% chance of survival if I stay in the building — but with both arms and legs amputated — versus a 1% chance of survival with arms and legs OK if I had the guts to jump.

That actually confused me even more…

I think he’s saying this:

He can either stay where he is and not feel fulfilled, or take a metaphoric “leap” and probably fail, but if he succeeds he will feel great.

am i wrong?

Kuvri (yodaluv12) wrote:
I think he’s saying this:He can either stay where he is and not feel fulfilled, or take a metaphoric “leap” and probably fail, but if he succeeds he will feel great.

Ohhh..

Why the hell cant you use simpler terms instead business. You are making this more difficult than it really is goodness

businessstartupsmall wrote:
Yes, Kuvri — you’ve got it (as in: not being fully amputated = feels great)

Whatever man stop with the amputations and 9/11 and james bond crap and just say what you mean…. What she said and what you said are just total opposite to me for some reason. You went from suicide to a life decision. I know you to you they didnt commit suicide but to EVERYONE else they did. So that was a horrible example

I mean you see how long it took her to figure out what the heck you were talking about and you made this post almost a hour ago… Use better scenarios like Jade mentioned earlier. I think im done with this post. It was entertaining for a while because it was so weird and confusing but now that i know what you are talking about (i think) i dont know what to tell ya.

Good luck with whatever it is you are trying to figure out

As the sayings go - fortune favours the brave.
History is written by the winners.
He who dares - wins.

Alternatively ie sports bloopers / mad stunts on TV. the people get called stupid fools.

I would only take a dangerous leap of faith / risky stunt on if it was
a. Good for humanity/cause - like a sky dive for charity. Do it with a 100 year old parachute that is moth bitten and it aint a risk its a certainty.
b. You were not scared of not dying quickly/being able to function
c. You were insured for it and your family were desperate for the money and you truly hated life and its possibilities.

Only you can ultimately decide if this risk your talking about is worth taking. What is the hypothetical scenario?

The scenario re WTC is in bad taste - They jumped out of desperation and did so because they hoped they would survive. 1 person survived the jump - exception to every rule almost.

I hope the problems you are experiencing get solved quickly and in a good way.

Lord Voldemort wrote:
I hope the problems you are experiencing get solved quickly and in a good way.

A very kind reply from Lord Voldemort lol

Kuvri (yodaluv12) wrote:

Lord Voldemort wrote:
I hope the problems you are experiencing get solved quickly and in a good way.

A very kind reply from Lord Voldemort lol

Tell anyone about this and prepare to watch your family die in front of your eyes.

Lord Voldemort wrote:

Kuvri (yodaluv12) wrote:

Lord Voldemort wrote:
I hope the problems you are experiencing get solved quickly and in a good way.

A very kind reply from Lord Voldemort lol

Tell anyone about this and prepare to watch your family die in front of your eyes.

OK will do :P