war help: How can some people still support Israel after the masacre theyve created in Gaza.. - Help.com

I read a very interesting article about how hamas are not protecting their innocents at ALL and using them as a human shield so the israelis look bad.

Another media slave.

DO you really think people just start these things for fun? the political issues date back centuries. It will only resolve when one side is wiped out.

ronnie10 wrote:
no 80% of people killed are hamas israel have done a fraction of whats going on in iraq.when hamas are wiped out peace will return to the region no rockets will be fired into israel and the problem will be solved

its just what theyre media says.. havent you seen the school that was bombed with children and teachers in it? if their issue is Hamas ..shouldnt they find another way to fight them rather than bombing houses and schools?

Nadia.92 wrote:

ronnie10 wrote:
no 80% of people killed are hamas israel have done a fraction of whats going on in iraq.when hamas are wiped out peace will return to the region no rockets will be fired into israel and the problem will be solved

its just what theyre media says.. havent you seen the school that was bombed with children and teachers in it? if their issue is Hamas ..shouldnt they find another way to fight them rather than bombing houses and schools?

Did you see those pictures of all those innocents killed in Germany dureing world war two? the thousands of women and children massacured because Hitler refused to surrender Berlin?

THings never change. and since all our information is 3rd sorced (through others, through representitives and then through the media) how can we truist anything they say? better use common sense: they all all lying B******s

ronnie10 wrote:
hamas use schools to launch missiles.atheist dad the political issue dates back to 1948 not centuries. and hamas is not a side its 15,000 strong terrorist organisation that lives among the 1.5 million population on the gaza strip

1948? do you not realise that it used to be all one country? do you not realise that it started as religious strife due to the lack of farmland afew hundred years ago? your a little out of date.

For gods sake israel vs hammas is like fighting with a man holding a stick.. they can totally defeat them .. and as far as i know only few of hammas has been killed or even none.. whereas the rest are just innocent people.. so whos the real war is with??

ronnie10 wrote:
farmland a few 100 years ago ?no mate un proposition 181 in 1948 is where you wanna try

no what you dont understand is that this is one piece of a very long, drawn out fued.

1000? BCE Jewish conquest of Jerusalem; reign of David After the death of David’s son, Solomon, the kingdom split into two: Israel in the north, Judea in Jerusalem and the south

ronnie, you need to go read some history man.

this didn’t start in 1948…
so i’m saying you should catch up on the history of the fighting.

In war everyone dies thats why its called war and there is no exception to that rule. Heres what they need to do to stop it. The people need to get together and permanently remove Hamas then the war ends. No more dead and peace will rain over the area. Hope this helps :-)

right.. sure…

where do you get your information from?

I found it:
Wall Street Journal [January 2, 2009]
Israel’s Policy Is Perfectly ‘Proportionate’
Hamas are the real war criminals in this conflict.
By ALAN M. DERSHOWITZ
Israel’s actions in Gaza are justified under international law, and Israel should be commended for its self-defense against terrorism. Article 51 of the United Nations Charter reserves to every nation the right to engage in self-defense against armed attacks. The only limitation international law places on a democracy is that its actions must satisfy the principle of proportionality.
Since Israel ended its occupation of Gaza, Hamas has fired thousands of rockets designed to kill civilians into southern Israel. The residents of Sderot — which have borne the brunt of the attacks — have approximately 15 seconds from launch time to run into a shelter. Although deliberately targeting civilians is a war crime, terrorists firing at Sderot are so proud of their actions that they sign their weapons.
When Barack Obama visited Sderot this summer and saw the remnants of these rockets, he reacted by saying that if his two daughters were exposed to rocket attacks in their home, he would do everything in his power to stop such attacks. He understands how the terrorists exploit the morality of democracies.
In a recent incident related to me by the former head of the Israeli air force, Israeli intelligence learned that a family’s house in Gaza was being used to manufacture rockets. The Israeli military gave the residents 30 minutes to leave. Instead, the owner called Hamas, which sent mothers carrying babies to the house.
Hamas knew that Israel would never fire at a home with civilians in it. They also knew that if Israeli authorities did not learn there were civilians in the house and fired on it, Hamas would win a public relations victory by displaying the dead. Israel held its fire. The Hamas rockets that were protected by the human shields were then used against Israeli civilians.
These despicable tactics — targeting Israeli civilians while hiding behind Palestinian civilians — can only work against moral democracies that care deeply about minimizing civilian casualties. They never work against amoral nations such as Russia, whose military has few inhibitions against killing civilians among whom enemy combatants are hiding.
The claim that Israel has violated the principle of proportionality — by killing more Hamas terrorists than the number of Israeli civilians killed by Hamas rockets — is absurd. First, there is no legal equivalence between the deliberate killing of innocent civilians and the deliberate killings of Hamas combatants. Under the laws of war, any number of combatants can be killed to prevent the killing of even one innocent civilian.
Second, proportionality is not measured by the number of civilians actually killed, but rather by the risk posed. This is illustrated by what happened on Tuesday, when a Hamas rocket hit a kindergarten in Beer Sheva, though no students were there at the time. Under international law, Israel is not required to allow Hamas to play Russian roulette with its children’s lives.
While Israel installs warning systems and builds shelters, Hamas refuses to do so, precisely because it wants to maximize the number of Palestinian civilians inadvertently killed by Israel’s military actions. Hamas knows from experience that even a small number of innocent Palestinian civilians killed inadvertently will result in bitter condemnation of Israel by many in the international community.
Israel understands this as well. It goes to enormous lengths to reduce the number of civilian casualties — even to the point of foregoing legitimate targets that are too close to civilians.
Until the world recognizes that Hamas is committing three war crimes — targeting Israeli civilians, using Palestinian civilians as human shields, and seeking the destruction of a member state of the United Nations — and that Israel is acting in self-defense and out of military necessity, the conflict will continue.
Mr. Dershowitz is a law professor at Harvard. His latest book is “The Case Against Israel’s Enemies” (Wiley, 2008).

good for you all… i don’t care about history i know the real stuff

i was hearing today in the news an eye witness and then she start to scream because of the white phosphor that israil air force bombed her home with. so i feel that israel now ARE the Nazis of this world… sorry but her screams are in my ear

I feel that hamas now are the good guys …

they are difending there country and they will win

israel casualty are :400
hamas :10

people of gaza : 3700

‘’in 19 days 1013 palestinians killed by israel including 322 children & 100 women, 4560 injured'’ .. there is no hell excuse on earth to approve what they are doing!!!!!!!!!!!! wake up poeple.. the ones suporting them are just not human!!

nadia.92 wrote:
‘’in 19 days 1013 palestinians killed by israel including 322 children & 100 women, 4560 injured'’ .. there is no hell excuse on earth to approve what they are doing!!!!!!!!!!!! wake up poeple.. the ones suporting them are just not human!!

Yeah right. hamas does not care if all of them die. they will still keep launching rockets and isreal will keep fighting back. in war everyone dies.

The Clue wrote:

Nadia.92 wrote:
‘’In 19 days 1013 Palestinians killed by Israel including 322 children & 100 women, 4560 injured'’ .. THERE IS NO HELL EXCUSE ON EARTH TO APPROVE WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!!!!!!!!!! WAKE UP POEPLE.. THE ONES SUPORTING THEM ARE JUST NOT HUMAN!!

Yeah right. Hamas does not care if all of them die. They will still keep launching rockets and Isreal will keep fighting back. In war everyone dies.

Thats the beauty of a fanatical religious sect, they just dont know when to quit. I say string them up. Thats the only language they understand.

On Arab TV news (in Arabic…my father was watching and translated for me), right after the cease fire ended, a Arab house in Gaza got blown up because the Palestinian dad inside was making bombs for Hamas. Both his kids died as well as his wife. He survived with serious injuries. And this is just one of hundreds or thousands of Palestinians who are working this way. Believe me when I tell you, there is not 1 Israeli who is putting his kids and wife at risk by making bombs in his house. The Arabs HATE JEWS more than they love their own kids. BELIEVE IT. The Arabs believe that if their children die in the name of Allah (their god) then they will be guaranteed to go to heaven. That’s why they don’t get out of the way even after Israel tells them beforehand by dropping thousands of leaflets from planes. Arabs will continue to allow their kids to die until they overcome their hatred of Israel…or at least until they start loving their kids more than they hate Israel.

some people are so ignorant, the supporters of israel can be debated down over and over again but they never face the truth. maybe because they have a tie somewhere with judiasm. but please people the government of israel is zionist, there are many jews against israel search it up. hamas is an elected government with no army. israel is has a huge ******* army paid for by the U.S. israel is occupying palestinian land and expanding ethnically cleansed settlements

WATCH THIS IF YOU WANT THE TRUTH. WATCH IT IF YOU WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list…

this is a movie called occupation 101, its uploaded on youtube

If the U.S is paying for the Israel’s army, there’s probably good reason!

yes the reason is, there are many huge influential zionists in the u.s. From the lobbyist group AIPAC to the big corperations, that influence the u.s and basically control it. i suggest you do some research on the subject and you will see how far the control goes.

If the U.S is paying for Israel’s army, it’s probably because Israel is on our side and keeps us safe from those Arabic bastard terrorists! The U.S. knows what’s best for us!