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knowledge is any form of information that is stored in one’s brain.
i think you need to get a new hobby.
perhaps throw yourself out there more and give them something to openly like

Knowledge; some thing justified, true and believe or I think that was Platos idea of it!

What you are experiencing is NOT true or justified and is only believed by you.

So all you have said is not a problem but an imagined one. These bad feelings are coming from inside you. It will probably run its course. There are things you can try to brighten your spirits but I find these times are just phases of being and growing.

Nightowl wrote:

AlphaKnight wrote:
knowledge is any form of information that is stored in one’s brain.i think you need to get a new hobby.perhaps throw yourself out there more and give them something to openly like

What knowledge do you have that the information is real? None. Whatsoever. Your fingers tell you your typing on a keyboard. That doesn’t make it true. Neither I nor you can ever KNOW anything. At all. Its all an assumption. The assumption that our senses are being honest.

Feel free to waste your time doubting reality nightowl. Doesn’t make you feel better.

Nightowl wrote:

AlphaKnight wrote:
knowledge is any form of information that is stored in one’s brain.i think you need to get a new hobby.perhaps throw yourself out there more and give them something to openly like

What knowledge do you have that the information is real? None. Whatsoever. Your fingers tell you your typing on a keyboard. That doesn’t make it true. Neither I nor you can ever KNOW anything. At all. Its all an assumption. The assumption that our senses are being honest.

i said nothing about the information being true or not.
I said information.
you instantly jumped on the word information and said i was saying it was true information

knowledge does not have to be correct. like i can say that I know i can fly just by jumping off a building, regardless or it being incorrect it is still information and it is still being stored in my head

Nightowl wrote:

AlphaKnight wrote:

Nightowl wrote:

AlphaKnight wrote:
knowledge is any form of information that is stored in one’s brain.i think you need to get a new hobby.perhaps throw yourself out there more and give them something to openly like

What knowledge do you have that the information is real? None. Whatsoever. Your fingers tell you your typing on a keyboard. That doesn’t make it true. Neither I nor you can ever KNOW anything. At all. Its all an assumption. The assumption that our senses are being honest.

i said nothing about the information being true or not. I said information.you instantly jumped on the word information and said i was saying it was true information

But what is the point of information if its not true!?I’ve been wracking my brain for most of my life trying to think of a way to be sure that the world is what it appears to be…but I still havent come up with an answer.

there is not a point for anything. we are because we are.
dont waste your time trying to figure out if the world is real or not, you wont figure it out. no one will

Over analysing life sucks most of the pleasure away. Every now and again its good to reaffirm why you believe certain things but doing it day in and out is just going to drain you.

Nightowl wrote:
There has to be a point. If there is not point, then I have no purpose, and should end my suffering now. I cling to the hope that there is a point, because if I start to believe that there IS no point (as I did many years ago) things will start to get dangerous for me and the people around me. There has to be a point. If theres no point, what do any of us really have to live for? More pain? More hardships?

we live for the lulz.
as far as i know, we only get one of these life things, so we should spend it as we see fit

Nightowl, can I ask how old you are? You are saying some highly intelligent things here which only a handful of people think about.

sir, congratulations. At 18, you are FAR beyond your years. I can tell you I hardly know anybody at 18 who thinks about this stuff. Hold your head up high, you’re a genius lol.

Matt in England wrote:
sir, congratulations. At 18, you are FAR beyond your years. I can tell you I hardly know anybody at 18 who thinks about this stuff. Hold your head up high, you’re a genius lol.

i really do agree with this, you are thinking far more intelligently and deeply than most your age, but i also think you need to calm it down and enjoy thins mystery of life.
would spending it by chasing answers actually feel fitting in the end?

Einstein said something to the effect -the definition of insanity is to keep doing the same thing repeatedly that does not work.so try something different this time.As fro knowledge there is book knowledge and life knowledge ,if your young you are learning as you go about life,this will bring wisdom and that will show in your later years.i hope this helps some

absolutely, well if you surround yourself with people who are on a similar wavelength to you, then you might start to enjoy the company of intellectuals! hehe

let me tell you a little something about meditation (in the context of you saying about buddhism)

When you do exercise, you know when your mind is empty, that’s meditating

When you sleep, your mind is empty, that’s meditating

I don’t think you always have to sit on a mat completely still to achieve meditation, but it’s one way of doing it.

As Bruce Lee said - don’t think, FEEL.

lol

well the nature of nature, is that some things follow a bell curve. IQ it seems is one of them.

http://www.iqtestnow.com/img/iqchildr…

An IQ of 100 is the most common IQ. When you’re above an IQ of 140, you’re in the top 2% of the population. Height follows the bell curve, you see lots of 5ft somethings but not alot of 8ft people.

well that puts you roughly in the top 2% of the population. Turn that frown upside down lol.

Nightowl wrote:
Maybe If I was dumber I would be able to be a happy drone meandering though life with his eyes closed like everyone else. Going where I’m directed, signing what I’m told to sign, working in the job that I “should” work in. I wonder if everyone is as unhappy as I am, or if its just me…because I think too much.

It’s intelligent and highly sentient people who tend to have more problems with mundane jobs! You’re not alone.

Nightowl, I KNOW you’d love my favourite movie, Into The Wild. Have you seen it?

I’ve also had these experiences in my short term with life. Until now, I never realized the rational explanation behind this psychological perception. This is my subjective interpretation: we encounter many tribulations in our life. We sometimes find it inexplicable and impossible to endeavor the connotation of the source. Essentially, we never determine the cause because it is really manifested deeply into our own morale and wisdom. Knowledge will only be a subset to your introspection.

nightowl how could you think of yourself so lowly?
ive seen the advice you given people and its great! and you have a great sence of humor! and you take the time out of your day to give complete strangers, that whether happy or sad would never effect you, great advice! give yourself more credit then that. not to help yourself but because you truely deserve it! be aware though. if these emotions start to take over your life you need to concider profetional help. give yourself as much self positivity as you can through out the day. ive noticed that these days it just seems people love to beat themselves up. they notice one big mistake they make and let it get them down for days. but never notice the small little things they do that realy show who they really are. the little things you do add up in the world and do mean something. it can start from giving up your seat on the bus to helping a complete stranger who only knows to put themselves down when they only deserve more then that.

You turned a simple post about depression into some pseudo philosophical argument. I understand what your point is.. I don’t think people hate me but “what is knowledge” we can never know anything for sure..

You are right though, there’s always some alternate explanation to something that might make it false… like let’s say that time really isn’t indefinite and if you step on your floor it will activate some sort of explosion that will erase everything… it’s likely.. but maybe .00000000000000001% likely.

This same logic corresponds to your predicament, it is possible that everyone hates you, but why don’t we instead side with the more statistically probable event that not everyone hates you?

I’m not really qualified in how to treat depression, but I think you would benefit from seeing a psychiatrist who is. Your mental health is like 100 times more important than your physical health.

I don’t think it’s bad to think a lot, unless of course you’re thinking thoughts that are causing you harm or that you’re not in control of, i.e. obsessive compulsive disorder.

Ya, it’s a subtle connection but your thoughts and feelings are actually connected, this is the theory behind Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, which teaches people to retrain their automatic thoughts and consequently their feelings of anxiety lessen - I’m not sure how it works on depression or if you even have depression, but it seems to me that you’re getting distressing feelings from negative self evaluation.

It’s hard to do I know but I think you would benefit from seeing someone specializing in CBT.. I’m not saying you’re an extreme mental case or anything like that, gosh no. There are a lot of people in your situation, heck I was when I was younger, I don’t feel those feelings anymore because I’ve learned to recognize irrational thoughts from rational ones.