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its funny how one of your sources is fox news - because that is a conservative news station. I think its important that the media is fair and balanced - its when the entire media becomes too one sided when problems begin. Look at what happened prior to the Iraq war. Did anyone question Bush’s decision to attack? Not that I can rememeber. I dont think TV stations would have to change their point of view necessarily, maybe they could just get a few more Republican guests to give their opinion about something on the show - or even launch a new show with a conservative point of view.
The freedom of speech is the right to express and transmit information and ideas. It is not a freedom to prohibit others from speaking.
What would you say if I told you that CNN had a panel talking about discrimination against a certain group in America? What if not a single person from that group was on that panel? What if the caption on the screen said, “Why do people from this group inspire such hatred?” What if one panel member said, “They need to just shut up.”?
Is that right? Or should they have allowed the people they were criticizing a chance to speak? Do you think that the people providing information to the American public should be allowed to say which groups should “shut up” as they put it?
yeah, i knew the fact that my first news source is from fox would come up. that’s just where i heard about the issue first. after that i did some research on my own.
soy277, do you think that the majority of television is republican, democratic, or even?
new american atheist, are these questions for me or for soy?
i think that if the media is not presenting something that is obscene or dangerous, the media should be able to say whatever it wants to say. it doesn’t matter what political party they are supporting. it doesn’t matter who they are representing or who they are discriminating against. just because we don’t like what they say doesn’t mean that we should be able to prevent them from speaking.
to me, the idea, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it” (voltaire) should apply.
I fully agree with the poster.
That is a political decision and has nothing to do with fairness. The word “democratic” can be used in many ways, too. For instance, if somebody forced the media to highlight the word “democratic” in the names of the Chinese democratic republic, in the German Democratic Republic (DDR) and other “democratic” countries and show it in all papers and tv-stations, the Democrats would be furious because they would know it would be to soil the word democratic.
Now, the real problem is that the media is not balanced. They should look further into who is controlling it, and nurse a more politically balanced media environment. I don’t know the name of the institution, but there is a body to look after that, similarly to how they look after illegal trusts.
The problem of unfair TV shows will solv itself if there were all directions. An unfair show would lose their viewers. If a show passes a certain line and is getting too nasty, it is subject to fines from yet another body. Just make those institutions work!
That doesn’t answer my question.
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That doesn’t answer my question.
in the scenario that you presented, i believe that no, the person they are discriminating against should not be obligated to appear on the show. if they feel that they are not being represented enough, they should go start their own show.
So this is how fairness dies… with thunderous applause.
what a silly thing to say, New American Atheist. Fairness is giving all people the equal ability to act of their own free will. It does not mean you get to force people to talk about what YOU want them to talk about.
This is very strange for me to witness what I am seeing as the death of fairness - if this doctrine is made into law. When i was young, being raised by very opinionated and educated Democrats, I always thought we were fighting for the freedom of speech and the equality of opportunity for all people to use that freedom. I thought that, most of all, Democrats were for this.
Now I am sad to begin to find that this is NOT true. It seems to me that political parties are all the same controlling failure in the end, that even the Democrats would resort to censorship if it can be used to silence the opposite point of view.
how disappointing.
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Is this Censorhip? The “Fairness Doctrine”
I’ve recently heard about this in the newspaper. It is a right of the FCC’s to impose a rule that all broadcasters, whether public or private, must devote some of their airtime to discussing controversial matters of public interest, and to air contrasting views regarding those matters. This doctrine is also called by critics the “Media Control Doctrine”. In June, representatives of Obama’s campaign said that he was against this, but recently, they have begun to refuse to confrim or deny whether they support it. It has become a hot issue since a few Democratic congressmen have begun to push for the Doctrine to be reinstated. I understand the idea that fairness is an important value for our media, but to me this just seems like too much. If you force a talk show host to report on things that he doesn’t care about or want on his show, isn’t that against our freedom of speech?
The Republican criticism on this is that the most media today is largely Democratic. The only media source in which Republican speakers dominate are the radio talk shows. With this doctrine, Democrats would have the dominant control over almost all forms of media. I can see how this is very frightening to Republicans who see this as censorship. With both the executive and legislative branches Democratic, their political powe has been greatly reduced. Now if the talk shows were forced to discuss issues they don’t want to on their talk shows, i can imagine how many listeners would end up not listening to them at all. If no one’s listening, these shows would not be able to economically survive, they would shut down, and thus the Republicans would lose their last foothold in the media.
Though I’m not Republican or a conservative, this still seems a little wrong to me. What if they applied this rule to television shows? Wouldn’t it completely ruin many democratic shows (Democracy Now, for example), if they were forced to discuss issues from a Republican point of view? However, this doctrine only applies to radio talk shows. And i highly doubt a Democratic congress would impose something like this on the tv stations. or the internet.
even if they did, and all stations, whether democratic or republican, were forced to discuss issues from both sides of view, isn’t that too much? how is that freedom of speech if the government decides how much time you are allowed to spend talking about what you want to talk about? isn’t that taking political correctness a little too far? if its not obscene, and its not hurting people, why should the media be controlled by the government?
i know this site is majorly democratic and liberal, and i want to know what you think about this. does this sound ok with you?
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http://www.museum.tv/archives/etv/F/h...
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billt...
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http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content...
http://www.humanevents.com/article.ph...
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