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Too many times I hear friends and people talk about how the United States is a state which controls the affairs of other countries way too much, gets way too involved, and generally, intervenes in situations which are none of its ‘business.’ The primary example I hear, from friends, MTV, MSNBC, the media, is the War in Iraq. The United States, this conglomerate of media believes, has an agenda in which the ’supreme authority of the United States’ overrules the rights and decisions of the state/country in which they are involved in, by simply being arrogant and insisting on the ‘American way’ in any and all situations. They believe the United State arrogantly interferes in the affairs of countries and their situations, even crises’ that it has no business in. They believe the United Nations or the country(s) involved, should simply deal with their own problems.

I completely would disagree. I don’t believe the United States has been active enough in the international stage until as of recently. in August 1992, it was U.S. President George H. W. Bush who announced that U.S. military transports would support the multinational UN relief effort in Somalia to deal with the massive starvation and food issues. Meddling with international affairs other then its own? I would think not. We all know what happened from here; in 1993 the disastrous and yet heroic Battle of Mogadishu occurred, and after the dust cleared, newly elected President Bill Clinton pulled all forces from Somalian soil completely (by 1995). Under a Democratic President, the United States refused to intervene in several situations that occurred throughout the world. Too many people around the world complain and place blame on the United States for not being involved in conflicts such as the Rwandan Genocide, the mass murder of an estimated 800,000 to 1,071,000 ethnic Tutsis and moderate Hutus by Hutu militia groups in Rwanda in 1994. However, if the United States had fought in Rwanda with fellow United Nations peacekeepers, chances are, after a couple years of fighting, approval ratings for the conflict would be tanking like a new TV show starring Rosie O’Donnell. Thus, we would begin to hear the whiners, arguing that the United States is greatly involved in affairs which are not peripherally related to the supreme national interests of its country. In the USA, you can’t win for losing.

There is still more examples. President Clinton also refused to mobilize U.S. ground troops in fighting the Bosnian Serb Army in Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1995 and the Yugoslav Army in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (specifically, the province of Kosovo) in 1999. All of these conflicts which resulted in thousands and thousands of civilians deaths were basically ignored by the US, which focused less on a preemptive foreign policy active in the Third World. Yet I hear people still argue that the United States meddles way too much in affairs of way too many nations… I truly do not see the basis for this argument.
Thus when U.S. President George W. Bush retaliated after 9/11 with the invasion of Afghanistan, he was more then just ‘meddling in the affairs’ of other countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 (as my friends argue). He was responding directly to the attacks on the United States, and the terrorist training camps for Al-Qaeda that were being created there.

To conclude, the War in Iraq, the War in Afghanistan are just that, war. Afghanistan is a large mess, resurgence of the Taliban has been devastating to Canadian and American soldiers. However, in many parts of the country, women now no longer live under law that prevents covering their skin, and Afghani’s now have the ability to live in a semi-democracy, rather then a Taliban regime. The United States is there for a reason, albeit the War in Iraq was based on false information; but essentially, they have been able to help encourage democracy and freedom in the Middle East. The fact that Saddam Hussein will no longer mass murder Kurds with gas, the ability for people of the country of Iraq to have freedoms and rights, and the fact that millions of Iraqi’s can now vote democratically is simply astounding. The media which surrounds us loves to portray the War in Iraq and the sacrifices the United States has made for the sake of freedom as useless, exaggerated, and not worth the high cost. And to an extent they are right; war is the ultimate consequence. Let us not forget the extent to which we pay for our own freedoms. God Bless America and God Bless Canada.

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khyron32 offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (16 minutes after post)

Nice Rant :-) Feel better? hehehehe

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Dr. Ralph offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 70 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (23 minutes after post)

Yeah! You tell ‘em! War is good! What if we had never gotten involved in WWII? Everyone would be speaking German and there would be no Israel or anything but blue eyed blonds by now…

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khyron32 offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (26 minutes after post)

Hey blue eyed blonds are cute hehehe
plus I was born a blue eyed blond
of course now I am green eyed and brown haired hahaaha

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Dr. Ralph offline Verified User (1 year, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 70 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (32 minutes after post)

Yeah, maybe that master race plan wasn’t so bad after all… hey wait my eyes are brown.

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khyron32 offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (49 minutes after post)

don’t worry Dr. Ralph Hitler wasn’t exactly a blond haired blue eyed kind of guy either and the aryans loved him for some reason hehehe

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Arnday the Imbroglio offline Verified User (2 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (3 hours, 38 minutes after post)

an interesting set of ideas, but I feel it has too much of a pro-republican/anti-democrat slant, perhaps better written from a neutral standpoint and perhaps better situated in a historical framework, that is, expulsion of isolationist policies and embracing of america’s place on the world stage. But in all, good introduction to an persistant argument

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Stunna offline Verified User (10 months, 4 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (4 hours, 52 minutes after post)

I truly didn’t try to slant it in the view of for or against a political party; merely I reported the facts and how I believe those who say the United States is too involved in affairs other then their own are hypocritical. Democrats believe democratic means and communication solves problems and wars, while most Republicans believe that democratic means must be combined with force (if the problem worsens)to solve problems and crises’. I am a realist and I believe firmly in the sovereignty of the state, so I definitely lean towards the Republican party.

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M. Wright offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (7 hours, 12 minutes after post)

It will soon be a moot point as to whether or not we should or should not intervene in various events in certain countries. Not far from now, we will lose the ability to act on a world stage.

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An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (10 hours, 43 minutes after post)

Americans do not have as much control over the world as they used to . Americans are as much a part of the grand good and evil as everyone else. 64 49 1776 this is about life / society whether you make it or not there’s only so chances

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Stunna offline Verified User (10 months, 4 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (11 hours, 59 minutes after post)

New American Atheist wrote:
It will soon be a moot point as to whether or not we should or should not intervene in various events in certain countries. Not far from now, we will lose the ability to act on a world stage.

I agree. America will lose their influence on a worldwide scale, as unfortunate as that is.

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khyron32 offline Verified User (11 months, 1 week) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (12 hours, 2 minutes after post)

All Nations rise and fall it is unavoidable. Nothing to worry about though. Once one nation falls from grace another rises to take its place. I hope everyone is flueant in Chinese ;-) hehehe

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hannahx12 offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (12 hours, 5 minutes after post)

well now i feel ashamed to say that im apart of the “states” ya no.
but i cant really control wat my country does so much.
i’m happy though that obama won president it was so time for a change. ugh bush makes my skin crawl i cant believe he even got elected president twice whe pratically everybopdy hated him well whatever at least he cant run anymore.
and itzs possible that some people say that were “in controll” but the other people dont have to listen i think they kind of feel obligated to.
seriosly io think war is stupid and we shopuldnrt even have it.
wat worth killing innocent lives for more guys or land and ect.
sry this long but yeah i dont much im not really into politics im only in high school.

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hannahx12 offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months, 1 week ago (12 hours, 6 minutes after post)

more gas* not more guys

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Stunna offline Verified User (10 months, 4 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months ago (1 day, 2 hours after post)

haha thanks Hannah for your opinion!

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hannahx12 offline Verified User (10 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 9 months ago (1 day, 10 hours after post)

yeah no problem

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