engineering help: If we simply apply the engineering method to nuclear power plants - Help.com

Jubilee wrote:
fine by me, you can put as many as you want in my back garden; I’m willing to totally give over x amount of space in order to have clean, cheap energy for the forseeable future.

As you read this, you are looking into the mind of an engineer. Engineers have to think this way or nothing would work. I consider the engineers to be like the daddies of these complex societies in which we live. When I was do this kind of work, I felt the responsibility for the lives of the people who are the users of these technologies.

Jubilee wrote:
don’t patronise me, i don’t cast my opinions lightly.

When you give your opinions on this subject, you are just reciting the advertising slogans of the nuclear industry. I know because I have debated their paid representatives many times.

fractal.scatter wrote:
I have to agree and say that nuclear power is the way forward; at least for the next century or so.

Hello fractal: Thanks for your input. I have read your words before and you seem to be doing pure science in an academic environment. When I graduated in materials science and then made the transition to working in engineering, a realization swept over me. It was the realization that if I made a single mistake in sampling, testing or calculating, a 35 story building might come crashing down in the middle of a city.
I would appreciate it if you would try to defeat any of my points for that is the way it is done. For example: do you think my analogy to the aeronautical engineering
method is valid and if not why not.

Jubilee wrote:
that is one of the most arrogant replies I have ever read. have i done something to illicit such a low opinion? or do you treat all people as if they are mindless idiots?

when i cast my opinion it is based on my research, the learnings of those around me, the reports (engineering, political and geographical) that I have read, the lecturers I have debated with, the adverts I have seen, the engineer I live with and everything else.

however, if my words mean so little to you then I don’t see the need to grace you with them.

When so much is at stake, manners don’t count. If you had tryed to defeat some of my points, I would have shown more respect.

fractal.scatter wrote:
Nuclear technology, at least in theory is safe and clean in terms of carbon pollutants. Of course everyone seems to forget the tonnes of nuclear waste that must be disposed of. I believe the current method is to encase it is glass and then dump it at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean. Of course this would have significantly more catastrophic effects if something went wrong.

But it is the only viable option at the moment and the technology has progreesed significatly over the last few decades. But I do share your point about engineering them; in that it is the government funding these, and the cheapest price will ultimately be sought for construction. Which of course leades to a problem I guess like that faced in aeronautics. Everyone wants cheep flights to the US or wherever, but ultimately they want to actually arrive there.

I have hundreds of pages of research papers on the subject of how metals are effected by high temperatures and radiation. This is just a small sample to show the complexity of the subject. Given this level of complexity, it can be seen that the unknowns and the risks are indeterminable. If you ask the materials scientists how long will this container contain this high level radioactive waste, he will have to answer “maybe 100 years plus or minus a millenium.”

Creation of Impurity Atoms: Nuetrons are also

absorbed in nuclear reactions resulting in changes in

atomic nuclei and thereby creating new elements as

impurity atoms. A large number of such transmutations

is possible involving both thermal and high energy

neutrons, but the most important metallurgically are the

(n,a) and (n,p) reactions, which generate helium and

hydrogen gas, respectively. Helium is particularly

important in irradiated steels and mainly arises from

transmutation reactions involving nickel, boron and

iron as follows: (i) thermal neutrons and nickel are

involved in the two step reaction: 58Ni(n,c)59Ni R

59Ni(n,a)56Fe; (ii) thermal neutrons and boron are

involved in the reaction: 10B(n,a)7Li; and (iii) fast neutrons

(. 6 MeV) are involved in threshold type (n,a)

reactions principally with nickel, but with significant

contributions from other major alloying elements{2.

Jubilee wrote:
you aren’t here to discuss, you’re here to prove your point. or more specifically to flatter your ego. now, where’s that unsubscribe button…

I am just acting as a citizen in a democracy. I do deep research into different issues and then I make submissions to government. If you hit the hot link on my page, and then find the album titled “bad logging” you will find some info on Drinking water systems. I’ve been reseaching drinking water for about 23 years.