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Susan Boyle, Scottish unknown, offers heart rending performance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IW...
I DREAMED A DREAM from Les Miserables
I dreamed a dream in time gone by
When hope was high
And life worth living
I dreamed that love would never die
I dreamed that God would be forgiving.
Then I was young and unafraid
And dreams were made and used
And wasted
There was no ransom to be paid
No song unsung
No wine untasted.
But the tigers come at night
With their voices soft as thunder
As they tear your hope apart
As they turn your dream to shame.
And still
I dream he’ll come to me
That we will live a life together
But there are dreams that cannot be
And there are storms
We cannot weather…
I had a dream my life would be
So different form this hell I’m living
So different now from what it seemed
Now life has killed
The dream I dreamed.
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I saw this already and it’s awesome! Who would have thought that such beautiful voice was going to come out of her pipes! She confessed that she has never been kissed before and now I bet she’s going to have a lot of volunteers to be the first one to kiss her!
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..at the request of a friend.
Susan Boyle, Scottish unknown, offers heart rending performance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IW...
I DREAMED A DREAM from Les Miserables
I dreamed a dream in time gone by
When hope was high
And life worth living
I dreamed that love would never die
I dreamed that God would be forgiving.
Then I was young and unafraid
And dreams were made and used
And wasted
There was no ransom to be paid
No song unsung
No wine untasted.
But the tigers come at night
With their voices soft as thunder
As they tear your hope apart
As they turn your dream to shame.
And still
I dream he’ll come to me
That we will live a life together
But there are dreams that cannot be
And there are storms
We cannot weather…
I had a dream my life would be
So different form this hell I’m living
So different now from what it seemed
Now life has killed
The dream I dreamed.
Sans invited 140 users to read this post 7 months, 2 weeks ago.
Yea, me too. It is great!
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..at the request of a friend.
Susan Boyle, Scottish unknown, offers heart rending performance
[youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lp0IWv8QZY]
I DREAMED A DREAM from Les Miserables
I dreamed a dream in time gone by
When hope was high
And life worth living
I dreamed that love would never die
I dreamed that God would be forgiving.
Then I was young and unafraid
And dreams were made and used
And wasted
There was no ransom to be paid
No song unsung
No wine untasted.
But the tigers come at night
With their voices soft as thunder
As they tear your hope apart
As they turn your dream to shame.
And still
I dream he’ll come to me
That we will live a life together
But there are dreams that cannot be
And there are storms
We cannot weather…
I had a dream my life would be
So different form this hell I’m living
So different now from what it seemed
Now life has killed
The dream I dreamed.
No way Sans! Can’t take anymore! I just finished watching this on Florie’s post for the fifth time! Enough tears for one day!
God! I’m all out of words but thanks for the invite. :)
I was stunned. btw Youtube disabled embedding, so that’s why I just put the link.
OK… I’ll go watch it one last time…. lol
Will you be on LUM tonight?
I noticed that
pretty dramatic ending sans :( can I edit it, I’m in no mood for tragedy
Makes me proud to be a middle aged scottish woman.
by the way when they say life has killed the dream I dreamed does it mean life became worse and killed the dream or does it mean life became better and killed the dream?
What a fun surprise! Hey Marylou, I see you. Are you gonna? I’ll meet ya.
Hey! Greenie! Thanks for replying! I thought I was invisible there for a moment. Yep! I’ll be on chat tonight most probably. Hope to see you there! :)
oh nvm that tube sort of answered my question amplified in stereo
Wow!
Awesome, there it is, never judge a book by it cover :)
Thanks for the invite
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An Unknown Location | 7 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 50 minutes after post)
Truly beautiful…thanks for the post. xoxo
watched this earlier… Like today from a friend Amazing little clip (Your name isn’t Bailee or Weston- or you don’t take a class up at USU do you?)
OMG, Sans! I literally “cried for happy” ! Had to force myself to stop watching it over and over again. Hubby got all teary-eyed, too. Wow. What an experience. It’s wonderful to actually *witness* someone’s dream come true. Have a hunch I’ll be watching this several times daily.
We see so much sadness in here, so many people who are having problems over-coming adversities … this wonderful woman just gave us all a shot of courage and a reaffirmation to never lose hope.
Sans, I truly did need to hear & see this … than you so much for the invite!!!
I’ve got to admit, I didn’t think that she was going to be very good when I first saw her. *hangs head in shame* I was gob-smacked afterwards though. She’s got a truly beautiful voice and I will be very surprised if she doesn’t get a recording deal after the series.
Thanks for that Sans :)
0_0 woh interesting lol
WOW.
Like i thought she was going to be like okay… But WOW i never expected that to happen. I swear that was truely beautiful.
Thanks for the invite Sans, that made my day =)
The beauty of her voice and spirit are simply heavenly. Let the truth be known…beauty comes from within!
I hope she resists all efforts to change her. She is perfect.
Do you really mean that c-eek because… wow, that is a very touching reply. :)
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An Undisclosed Location | 7 months, 2 weeks ago (5 hours, 17 minutes after post)
Cheers for the invite supergirl… I don’t watch TV much anymore.
But bloody hell… words fail me.
really. i cant think of a word good enough here. wow…
An Undisclosed Location | 7 months, 2 weeks ago (5 hours, 22 minutes after post)
In fact the only way I can sum up my appreciation is by using the great man, Robert Burn’s. This song is about Robert burn’s best friend Willie Stuart, It’s about the appreciation of a person. and I’d like to dedicate this one to Susan Boyle. So if you would all please listen to this song too. To Susan Boyle! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlEFJT…
A lesson learned I think, don’t judge a book by its cover,everybody rolled eyes ready to condemn before she opened her mouth, beautiful and heart rendering loved it, saw her on tv this morning too, go girl go !!
Dang! Your right, I did need to read that! Thanks Sans your amazing for posting that:)
WTG, GRANNY !!!! May you enjoy all the many months of baby poop ahead of you. LOL
well, as I just said in chris’ post….I just saw this a few min’s ago….then I came to help
This lady is DYNAMIC!!! She sings me to tears!!! :)
How many times a day has that woman been overlooked in general. I take this lesson to heart. I don’t see a one in a million person. I see an everday lady who like everyone else in this world has something to offer humanity, but is so easily overlooked.
I know ppl at my “local hangout”, some of which are here, and they have shocked me with their kindness and compassion. They are ppl with faults and “issues” that could make me think that they are just ordinary everyday folks. But inside, beyond the imperfect exteriors, there lie treasures unlike any that could be manufactured or mined from this earth.
I was moved to tears to watch Ms. Boyle perform and overcome “expectations” of her audience. Now I say a silent prayer in hopes that God will help me hear the majestic “pipes” in everyone that I know. Her humility and good humored response to ridicule was a sign to me that this is a woman who cares about people. She is a true hero.
I want to be more like Ms. Boyle, and let my life shine through the darkness so that others may “hear” my “pipes”. God Bless Her! Shakey
gypsy-corner wrote:
Dang! Your right, I did need to read that! Thanks Sans your amazing for posting that:)
Thanks but the credit goes to Florie, who asked me to post.
Marylou wrote:
Do you really mean that c-eek because… wow, that is a very touching reply. :)
Yes, I do really mean what I wrote. Our culture is too focused on how women look. She is perfect, just way she is.
I can only say awesome, she opens her mouth and the world suddenly is alive in a different way, a beautiful way. Like Joshy says, I’m speechless. I’ll need to copy this to my blog, it’s just to much beauty to pass up.
Thanks to Sans and Florie..
An Undisclosed Location | 7 months, 2 weeks ago (18 hours, 43 minutes after post)
that was just fabulous, i mean. she has the voice that just gives you chills and feel all warm and fuzzy. well that just makes me wish i could sing. o well i know for sure she will b a sensation. i hope her the best.
The lyrics are just so powerful. I feel that she sang it from her heart. Susan Boyle is just one of the countless women who is maybe taken for granted by society. This world can be very shallow and blind.
…and still i dream he’ll come to me and we will live the years together
but there are dreams that cannot be
and there are storm we cannot wither
…i have a dream my life could be
so different from this hell im living
so different now from what it seems
…and now life has killed the dream i dream.
I wish i could tell Susan Boyle she is one special woman. The world is just too privileged to have her.
heheh! congrats to her and the rest of the pack! =)
i love it when all the hecklers got the shocked of their lives.
I’ve watched the video of Susan Boyle singing “I Dreamed A Dream” on Britain’s Got Talent carefully several times, and I think there’s a bit more stage-management to it than you’ve realized.
First, the camera-panning catches of significant facial expressions is simply too good, too apropos, to be serendipity. The judges remarks are too well thought-out to be spontaneous; most of them indicate that a bit of time has passed for reflection and word-smithing. The cameraman on the flying boom was ready to make his zoom-in pass when Boyle hit her high note–again, indicating that a degree of advance preparation had occurred. Likewise, the fellows off the stage left had been prepped with several smart remarks and had a camera backstage ready to speak them to.
Oh, there’s more. But that’s enough, I think, to convince most people that Piers Morgan and Amanda Holden were falsely pretending to be surprised after Boyle finished singing, and that Simon Cowell was telling the plain truth when he said that he knew Boyle’s singing would be extraordinary when she walked out on stage. Cowell probably intended that his correct statement would be DISBELIEVED, but it was, I think, true nonetheless.
What I think happened is this. Susan Boyle made an earlier appearance at some sort of talent contest and was scouted by someone from Britain’s Got Talent. She was given an audition off-camera and then invited to sing on the TV show. The audience was salted with people who had been to acting school and knew how to make facial expressions of the sort people have when making snide or catty remarks, or alternatively when to look “surprised” or “ecstatic.” I think that the real stage in the video is the ENTIRE AUDITORIUM. Susan Boyle might have been the diamond in the ring, but she wasn’t the whole piece of JEWelry there.
Still, all-in-all, the production was a worthwhile piece of art, and it achieves its lesser purpose of making viewers feel good. It also carries out a deeper purpose of providing a moral object lesson in the vein of “Never Judge A Book By Its Cover.” And, if I might presume, there is yet a third and yet deeper purpose that has to do with a very hidden tiger flexing its propaganda claws, just to stay in form.
The video itself was harmless. But consider what this level of illusion-making talent could do if it chose to be mischievous or, dare I say it, even criminal. It could, for example, predetermine the outcome of political elections by making one candidate look heroic or visionary, while, subtly and unjustly, leaving a faintly tainted odor on the other candidate. Beware! Learn ALL the lessons that this video has to teach, not the pretty ones only.
in a way, i quite agree =)
me?! hehehe! thanks so much. but it is not YET my bday! hehehe =)
REally… I was sure I read it was your birthday on some other website…. Hmmm…
Well, go ahead and celebrate this day as if it was anyways!! :) :) :)
lol. its nice to be greeted in advance tho. wat an experience.
i checked it out hehe. sometimes, laziness cud do me some good =)
goatlyone wrote:
What I think happened is this. Susan Boyle made an earlier appearance at some sort of talent contest and was scouted by someone from Britain’s Got Talent. She was given an audition off-camera and then invited to sing on the TV show. The audience was salted with people who had been to acting school and knew how to make facial expressions of the sort people have when making snide or catty remarks, or alternatively when to look “surprised” or “ecstatic.” I think that the real stage in the video is the ENTIRE AUDITORIUM. Susan Boyle might have been the diamond in the ring, but she wasn’t the whole piece of JEWelry there.The video itself was harmless. But consider what this level of illusion-making talent could do if it chose to be mischievous or, dare I say it, even criminal. It could, for example, predetermine the outcome of political elections by making one candidate look heroic or visionary, while, subtly and unjustly, leaving a faintly tainted odor on the other candidate. Beware! Learn ALL the lessons that this video has to teach, not the pretty ones only.
Everything you said COULD be true. The scary part is we have no way of knowing. Major productions always canvas the scene from multiple angles, so the reaction shots and side-stage action could have been authentic. The media and advertising industry is certainly adept at the art of relative truth. As a former craftsman of ads and news coverage in a variety of media, I have no illusions about the illusions. Long ago we passed the point of being able to tell if anything onscreen was real. It won’t be long until we’ll have to apply the same standard to things we see with our own eyes. Awareness of puppetry in politics, business and even personal relationships is important, but not paramount.
The powers that be have always manipulated; it’s just easier to do now. Rigged elections and deceitful rhetoric have been around as long as democracy. We should have balanced, healthy skepticism, though and not tilt over into paranoia, nor become self-righteous. With the internet we are ALL illusionists now.
The woman, I think, was/is authentic, and the audacity of her fighting for her dream is the most important lesson. But if we give up on our dreams we die, in one sense or another.
BTW, if your capitalization in “JEWelry” wasn’t accidental, then it was at a minimum prejudiced and possibly racist.
I never doubted that Susan Boyle is a great singer. Nor do I doubt that the voice we heard was hers. I think that she, as a singer, is on the up-and-up. The most I’d look at — if it seemed important, which it does not — is whether she was performing in real-time or lip-synching.
No, the capitalization in my metaphor wasn’t accidental. It was deliberate. And it isn’t prejudiced, but rather well-informed. The Jews in Hollywood today will be the first to tell you that they run the place, even though slammed people like Marlin Brando for calling attention to that same fact in years past. Their strategy today isn’t denial, but So-Whatism. As in “So what? It just means we’re good businessmen.”
I expect that it’s much the same way in Britain, and perhaps even more so, though as the UK has no explicit First Amendment, Jewish organizations (e.g. the Board of Deputies of British Jews) have been able to make certain types of speech a criminal offense in the UK, whether or not what is said is true, and despite the fact that Western tradition runs contrary to the very idea of criminalizing speech just because someone considers it offensive.
I thought I’d seen just about everything that could appall me in here, but bar none, you take the cake.
We all face so much sadness in so many posts in here. Then along comes the rare joyous post that makes people happy and has them cheering for the underdog and you reduce it to:
goatlyone wrote:
Still, all-in-all, the production was a worthwhile piece of art, and it achieves its lesser purpose of making viewers feel good.
“LESSER PURPOSE” ?????
goatlyone wrote:
The cameraman on the flying boom was ready to make his zoom-in pass when Boyle hit her high note–again, indicating that a degree of advance preparation had occurred. Likewise, the fellows off the stage left had been prepped with several smart remarks and had a camera backstage ready to speak them to.
I don’t profess to know much about the media, but in watching figure skating competitions, I’ve noticed that the camera always catches the significant moves and that the commentators are always geared up for them. Why? Because the skaters were watched in advance by the camera crew during their rehearsals. If I’m not mistaken, t.v. camera crews have been doing this for years.
Putting aside your cynicism, this was definitely not the proper post to use as an excuse to vent your prejudice and to promote your political agenda:
goatlyone wrote:
Susan Boyle might have been the diamond in the ring, but she wasn’t the whole piece of JEWelry there.
goatlyone wrote:
No, the capitalization in my metaphor wasn’t accidental. It was deliberate. And it isn’t prejudiced, but rather well-informed. The Jews in Hollywood today will be the first to tell you that they run the place, even though slammed people like Marlin Brando for calling attention to that same fact in years past. Their strategy today isn’t denial, but So-Whatism. As in “So what? It just means we’re good businessmen.”
No matter how disgusting I may find your views, I still believe in your right to air them. But using this post, of all places, to accomplish your feat was disgraceful of you. You could have easily opened up a separate post and done your ranting there.
Don’t waste your time replying to me; I won’t be listening.
Hi Aries. No need praise me overmuch. I’m ACCUSTOMED to criticism such as yours. I swim in it daily. So let loose the hounds, or whatever.
Yes, LESSER PURPOSE. There are several greater ones from the point of view of the vendor, the retailer, of any marketable product. And that includes entertainment. Among them, of course, is making a profit by attracting advertisers or through sales. But monetary profit isn’t the only sort of purpose which the owners of the mass media seek. Or, to be more accurate about it, the media bosses as well as their cohorts in the banking business have long range ambitions that can be construed as a profit in a sense, namely ownership of the world and all that is in it.
In regard to oh-so-lucky camera angles, you appear to have swallowed the point I was making without tasting it. It was my belief all along that the judges, the camera operators, the guys backstage, and the audience had previously seen and heard Susan Boyle perform, and that, hence, the “surprise” evinced by those same people was phony. An act made for TV. To make YOU, the listener in the audience, believe that this was something spontaneous, miraculous, and worthy of having sponsors reach deeper into their pockets, among other things.
Don’t worry about my agenda. Worry about THEIRS. My agenda is limited to making sure the you know about their agenda. If I’ve done that much, I’ve done what I came to do.
Oh, do tell just exactly how disgusting you think my views are, but, while you’re about it, tell me which of my statements you believe are INCORRECT, and then tell me what you believe the truth is instead. Okay? I don’t give a plugged nickle what you consider offensive. My sole concern is for what is true. If I offend you, that’s your concern, not mine. If I’ve misled you with a false statement, then that is my concern indeed, and I would much appreciate an explicit and detailed correction.
Be aware, however, that I reserve the right to form my own beliefs, to make up my own mine, about which of us is right.
Ah. I just read your final remark: “Don’t waste your time replying to me; I won’t be listening.” How typical of my opposition. Suit yourself. But since I’ve already gone to this much trouble, I’m just going to post this reply anyway.
I would have much prefured the song if it wasent for all those failed drama students.
Still, its nice to listen too, so ill just have it in the background.
((((((((((Sigh))))))))))))
Just listened to it again. I don’t care about Goatlyone’s thoughts that it is a set up….I think that when she hit the high note, the camera zoomed in b/c that high note is EXPECTED in the piece. Whether she was a crappy singer or the fabulous singer that she is, the camera would have zoomed, either to embarass or to showcase.
Still, some of what you said may be true. She could have been on the show prior and blown the audience away….and then producers could have found a GEM FOR TV and presented her twice, making the second time be more of a “show.” I would think that she would want to be presented to the public the way it was done the “second time,” as the first time could have been full of bumbling mistakes and bad camera shots. She may have been wearing a crappy dress. By presenting it twice, Susan herself is the recipient of positive accolades, as it is intended to make her look like the GEM THAT SHE IS.
The bottom line is: she’s fantastic. I am soooo happy that she was “discovered,” and I’m with C-eek….hoping that she resists changing into something more “Hollywood….”
goatlyone wrote:
Hi Aries. No need praise me overmuch. I’m ACCUSTOMED to criticism such as yours. I swim in it daily. So let loose the hounds, or whatever.Yes, LESSER PURPOSE. There are several greater ones from the point of view of the vendor, the retailer, of any marketable product. And that includes entertainment. Among them, of course, is making a profit by attracting advertisers or through sales. But monetary profit isn’t the only sort of purpose which the owners of the mass media seek. Or, to be more accurate about it, the media bosses as well as their cohorts in the banking business have long range ambitions that can be construed as a profit in a sense, namely ownership of the world and all that is in it.
In regard to oh-so-lucky camera angles, you appear to have swallowed the point I was making without tasting it. It was my belief all along that the judges, the camera operators, the guys backstage, and the audience had previously seen and heard Susan Boyle perform, and that, hence, the “surprise” evinced by those same people was phony. An act made for TV. To make YOU, the listener in the audience, believe that this was something spontaneous, miraculous, and worthy of having sponsors reach deeper into their pockets, among other things.
Don’t worry about my agenda. Worry about THEIRS. My agenda is limited to making sure the you know about their agenda. If I’ve done that much, I’ve done what I came to do.
Oh, do tell just exactly how disgusting you think my views are, but, while you’re about it, tell me which of my statements you believe are INCORRECT, and then tell me what you believe the truth is instead. Okay? I don’t give a plugged nickle what you consider offensive. My sole concern is for what is true. If I offend you, that’s your concern, not mine. If I’ve misled you with a false statement, then that is my concern indeed, and I would much appreciate an explicit and detailed correction.
Be aware, however, that I reserve the right to form my own beliefs, to make up my own mine, about which of us is right.
Ah. I just read your final remark: “Don’t waste your time replying to me; I won’t be listening.” How typical of my opposition. Suit yourself. But since I’ve already gone to this much trouble, I’m just going to post this reply anyway.
I hereby award you, sir, the “Idiot of the Year” award! Congratulations! You deserve a slap in the face by every person you are to come in contact with!
Rocco wrote: “I hereby award you, sir, the “Idiot of the Year” award! Congratulations! You deserve a slap in the face by every person you are to come in contact with!”
Well isn’t that personal? How about I return the sentiment. You deserve everyone who meets you to kick you on the behind. There. We’re even. Oops! Not quite. YOU’RE AN IDIOT. Okay, NOW we’re even.
Now, is there even ONE statement I made that you would like to declare incorrect? Is there even ONE error I’ve made that you’d like to straighten out? No? I wonder why that is. You, not I, are the “idiot of the year.”
goatlyone wrote:
Rocco wrote: “I hereby award you, sir, the “Idiot of the Year” award! Congratulations! You deserve a slap in the face by every person you are to come in contact with!”Well isn’t that personal? How about I return the sentiment. You deserve everyone who meets you to kick you on the behind. There. We’re even. Oops! Not quite. YOU’RE AN IDIOT. Okay, NOW we’re even.
Now, is there even ONE statement I made that you would like to declare incorrect? Is there even ONE error I’ve made that you’d like to straighten out? No? I wonder why that is. You, not I, are the “idiot of the year.”
Look, life isn’t about being correct or incorrect. I would like to restate what Aries said here. This site is so miserable and sad all the time. Then one kind person comes along and posts something that everybody loves and thinks is remarkable. We are all having a good time, then you suddenly come along and point out how it is so fake, and every little bit is staged, and every audience member is an actor, and this is a rehearsed performance… WHO CARES???? You obviously, but you are pessimistic and have a few problems of your own that need sorting out. Instead of taking it out on a bunch of people who are trying to crack a smile, how about you go make a post of your own and complain about it.
Don’t ruin our fun. Thanks, bud.
There’s some truth to that charge. I have what might be a compulsion where truth is concerned. I admire art, and Susan Boyle’s singing is good art. I don’t actually even mind the REPACKAGING of an earlier TV episode into a new production. What I don’t like, rather, is people not noticing that it was repackaged.
If I found somebody who was so fond of Star Trek that he REALLY BELIEVED that the Starship Enterprise was in space somewhere, I’d be obliged to set him straight on the matter. His fantasy might not be hurting him, yet I’d feel compelled to attempt to persuade him that Captain Kirk is a fictional guy, just the same.
Likewise, if someone finished a book and began acting as if he were still immersed in the fictional world of the story he’d been reading, I’d try to snap him awake, whether I could see any harm to his delusion or not.
Or if I ran into someone who thought he was Superman. Not just for a moment’s pretend, but for schizoid-mental-disorder-real, I’d try to straighten his mind out, marshal evidence that he could not fly before he tried doing it off a roof somewhere and breaking a leg.
As I said before, this video of Susan Boyle singing to a prepped crowd of quasi-actors doesn’t seem to do any harm. But the level of talent for illusion-making which is demonstrated in its making can be used for other, not-so-nice purposes. When a talent for illusion and conditioning and mob manipulation this great is combined with a mass media, one of the things the manipulators could do, if they chose to do it, is hijack a country.
Sure, have your fun. But this video can bring you an important lesson as well as fun, if you will think about it. Admire Susan Boyle’s talent. I know that I do. But let the concomitant circumstances warn you about the capabilities of the mass media to do terrible things as easily, if its masters should take an intention to do them.
Camera angles or not, I spoke to my friend in England today, who said that Simon Cowel has offered her a contract and shes excepted, so hopefully we’ll be seeing more of Susan Boyle :-)
Sasha101 wrote:
Camera angles or not, I spoke to my friend in England today, who said that Simon Cowel has offered her a contract and shes excepted, so hopefully we’ll be seeing more of Susan Boyle :-)
Great news!!!! :)))
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Update, Id say we’re looking at another Millionaire :-)
Hi ya Sans :D. i already seen it but thanks 4 the words .
I just noticed something interesting. At 6:52 in the video, Amanda Hopkins says “Elaine blew it.” Was she referring to Elaine Paige? I wonder how it is that Amanda believes this Elaine, whoever she is, messed up.
cham wrote:
pretty dramatic ending sans :( can I edit it, I’m in no mood for tragedy
I agree, the last stanza is very sad – and yet the effect (and mood) of Susan Boyle’s singing is triumphant! I think Susan is BEING her dream, and it hasn’t been killed at all.
goatlyone wrote:
I just noticed something interesting. At 6:52 in the video, Amanda Hopkins says “Elaine blew it.” Was she referring to Elaine Paige? I wonder how it is that Amanda believes this Elaine, whoever she is, messed up.
Look, a book is meant to be read left to right, top to bottom, line by line. In that order. Please stop reading the first letter of every line to try and find a secret message. It’s not there, and even if it is, nobody but you cares. So when you find it, keep it to yourself.
Well a few days away from the site and I return to find that some have been having a heated debate on my post. I don’t appreciate Rocco and goatlyone slapping, kicking and exchanging insults. Neither one of you deserve abuse. Other than that, though, and the intimation that Jews are somehow trying to take over the world, I think the rest of it’s a healthy conversation. The internet is one of the few places left where you can speak freely.
It IS important to be aware of media manipulation. But this has been going on as long as forms of media have existed. It has never been the domain of solely one ethnic or religious group. From Stalinist and Mouist propaganda films, to action movies of today, leaders of many nations have led and mislead the masses. Paranoia, however is self-manipulation of one’s own mind. People believe what they want to believe, even would-be reformers and self-appointed prophets. If the desired story is not being told, people will tell the story to themselves. Fear of Jews is like fear of Negroes in the pre-civil rights era USA. It’s based on the lie that because someone is different, they have ill intent. When in fact all humans want the same basic things, most of them good.
As for the video.. when I posted it, I had only viewed it once and saw nothing extraordinary about it’s production values. It’s professionally done, and yes, like all television including public TV, is done with the profits of the sponsors in mind.
Sponsors sell products, employ people, and those people buy other products.
It is not, however, live. There is no attempt in the clip to represent that it’s live. While I suspect that the primary talent, producers and directors were aware of Ms. Boyle’s incredible singing talent, there is nothing in the rest of it that suggests that there actors in the audience. There may be, but necessarily. Let me explain why.
A good director covers all the angles and framings (wide-medium-close). A good post-production editor, however, usually saves the director’s bacon. In a performance such as this one from Britain’s Got Talent, the scenes are shot “as-live” with the studio audience. If there are significant mistakes, the segment maybe re-shot, but ideally it appears to the studio audience as a live performance. Each camera, though, is also recorded as an individual feed either on digital tape or hard drive. There are ISO-reels (isolated from the switched feed). The purpose of ISO-reels is to improve the show in post-production. Timecode for all sources is jam-synced so they can be simul-rolled or match-framed easily in post.
The crowd scoffing, the talent raising his eyebrows, the fist in the air.. are all caught on the ISO-reels and edited in to the switched feed. In some cases it’s important that the action be simultaneous to what actually occurred (in sync that is) because of sound or continuity. In other cases, a close-up of the talent or the audience may be slipped without the audience being conscious that it isn’t in sync.
Television audiences are accustomed to technical perfection. They expect to see the details that go on during a performance. But in something as nuanced as this piece, no director and technical director could call and switch the show with the kind of accuracy and uncanny eye for appropriate detail that you saw in the clip. The producers don’t even make an attempt to represent the performance as live–it ends with Ms. Boyle exiting the stage in slow motion. Is there manipulation of the viewers’ emotions? Certainly. Is there anything unusual or devious about it? No. It’s called editing.
Well said, Sans :)
“While I suspect that the primary talent, producers and directors were aware of Ms. Boyle’s incredible singing talent, there is nothing in the rest of it that suggests that there WERE actors in the audience. There may be, but NOT necessarily.”
I hate it when I maek typos.
I hat it when you maek typos, too, Sans. :p
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I hat it when you maek typos, too, Sans. :p
Me tow.
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Pepper Jelly wrote:
I hat it when you maek typos, too, Sans. :pMe tow.
Mee trhee.
Sans: “Other than that, though, and the intimation that Jews are somehow trying to take over the world, I think the rest of it’s a healthy conversation. The internet is one of the few places left where you can speak freely.”
I respond to doubt that I’ve spoken truly.
Discussing an identifiable group’s ability (if not their intention) for using a tool to gain world domination is very healthy conversation, in the same sense that if someone is attacking you, it’s “healthy” to fight back. And the internet is SO FREE that discussing the activities of the Jews is one of the things we may speak freely about.
The fact that Jews own and control most major media corporations is easily checked. You don’t have to rely on hear-say. You can simply find out who the biggest share-holders, the chairmen of the boards of directors, the CEOs, the COOs, the Presidents and the vice-presidents of the media conglomerates and their subsidiaries are. You’ll find that they are mostly Jews. YES! Yes, you WILL, IF you BOTHER to do the work!
Robert Iger, President and CEO of Walt Disney Company, for example, is a Jew. As was his predecessor in both positions, Michael Eisner.
So is Sumner Redstone (Murray Rothstein) and Melvin Karmazin of Viacom, Peter Chernin and Gail Berman of Fox TV, and, in various positions in various media corporations: Norman Pearlstein, Edgar Bronfman, Harvey Weinstein, George W. Bodenheimer, Leslie Moonves, Sherry Lansing… I could go on. I will if you doubt me. Almost all the Big Names and a many (perhaps most) of the medium-sized names in the media business are Jews, an ethnic group that comprises less than 3% of our population.
Just good businessmen? Nope! Conspiracy. It was a deliberate plan to take over the media with the intention of eventually taking over the countries of the West. The plan was made originally by a British-resident Jew named “Baron” Moses Montifiore, near the end of the 19th century. He attended a meeting of the Alliance Israelite Universalle in Poland, where he found some other Jews, prominent in the business of international banking, discussing their next moves against the goyim. Montifiore reportedly said, “Capture the Press! Unless ye have the press in your hands all ye do is idle!”
Montifiore’s words were paraphrased in a Jewish pamphlet published in Moscow in 1907: “Capture the press! Through it all things will come to you in the natural course of events!”
And so began the Jewish effort to buy up all the newspapers, all the movie houses, all the publishing companies, and, when it appeared, all the television networks in the United States and in Europe. It began as the 19th century was ending, or as the 20th century opened. One by one, the White businessmen who had owned large newspapers sold out to the Jews. Bit by bit, every channel of information which Americans had to the world gained a Jew standing astride it, able and willing to insert whatever spin he wished, able and willing to filter the news so that whatever he really wished to omit would be omitted. Then these Jews began making policies so that their employees would do this for them, in exchange for a regular paycheck.
And it stayed that way… until the Internet became available to the general public. The Internet, by the way, originated as a US Defense research project (DARPA) so that American military communications could survive a nuclear first strike by Soviet ICBMs. And then it grew beyond its original mission. However, if the Jews had not destroyed the Russian Empire and replaced it with the communist Soviet Union, the United States would have had no reason to plant the seed that became the Internet. So the Jews do make a mistake once in a while, although at the time they viewed Bolshevism, rather than Zionism, as their main chance at world domination.
Go ahead. Tell me I’m wrong. And then I’ll prove that I’m right. The world is a place with very powerful, ruthless people in it, and most of them don’t want you looking over their shoulders. So they’ve fixed it such that you seldom get a report on what they’ve been doing (at least, until it’s too late to avoid the consequences). Example? The Federal Reserve System.
Goatlyone, I’m sick of you. Not to be insulting or anything, but you remind me of a four year old convinced that snow actually falls up. Nothing anybody can say can change your mind, no matter how obviously incorrect, or, at least, opinionated you are.
So, I’m done arguing.
OH boy!!!! YOu know… I’ve read it all! Yep! all of it!
One: I would suggest you follow the website rules and… MAKE YOUR OWN POST. You’re intrusion in this post is very disrespectful to the poster and of course we could easily have your replies removed from it but anyways…
Two: Whether you are completely aware of it or not you are presently promoting racial hatred. Not at good thing in any case!
Three: I understand you are pretty sure you’ve got everything figured out here and you seem out to prove something. (Again, not the place, on this post, to do it.)But you see, GoatlyOne, you are simply focussing on one particular group of people but I can assure you, the world situation is sooooo much more complex than that. Whatever any group might be out to do, really, you should stop worrying so much. There are many different groups of people, many different individuals that are part of the whole picture too. Some are pulling one way; others are pulling in a different direction. And everyone has an effect on the end result.
(As you can see, there is definitely more than one way of looking at things…)
You’ve certainly heard of the butterfly effect, right? Do your own little part. Every little effort counts. Keep your mind open. Pointing the finger at one specific ethnic group is not the right way to go. Instead of attacking, I’m sure you could find a more creative positive way of using your individual energy, that would be more effectively beneficial to all. Good luck with that.
And “Ciao” for now! :):)
Marylou: “One: I would suggest you follow the website rules and… MAKE YOUR OWN POST. You’re intrusion in this post is very disrespectful to the poster and of course we could easily have your replies removed from it but anyways…”
Hello Marylou. I always expect that my posts concerning the Jews will be censored. Sometimes they are, and sometimes they aren’t. Just in case, I keep copies of what I write, so that if it is removed I can have it reappear elsewhere.
I didn’t write my first comment here with the intention of doing a complete expose on the control which the Jews have upon major elements of the mass media. I did that in response to challenges of one sort or another. Without those challenges, I doubt that I’d have ever made another comment here. But once presented with them, my response was a certainty.
I’m not certain why Sans expected me to efface myself and back off, though that was apparently the response he was looking for. Where I come from, “racist” is not the detail that matters for the permissibility of speech. Truth is. A racist in America can speak his mind all the day, as long as he tells no slanderous or libelous lies.
Marylou: “Two: Whether you are completely aware of it or not you are presently promoting racial hatred. Not at good thing in any case!”
I don’t give a flip about British laws concerning the promotion of racial hatred. The UK Parliament and the Board of Jewish Deputies which owns it don’t concern me in the slightest. Their legal powers do not cross the Atlantic Ocean. The disability in free speech which the British seem to suffer gladly does not exist in America. If I’m Promoting Racial Hatred within the definition of their laws, then it is an incidental and unavoidable concomitant to Telling The Truth.
In fact, I don’t think that such laws are even possible to have without sacrificing to some degree the right to speak the truth.
Marylou: “Three: I understand you are pretty sure you’ve got everything figured out here and you seem out to prove something. (Again, not the place, on this post, to do it.)”
Hold on there! I must repeat what I said. I’d made a very oblique reference to the Jews (i.e., my capitalization of the first three letters of “JEWelry” in my first post) was morally challenged by Sans. I disagree with his moral priorities, and have been writing ever since to make the nature of that disagreement more explicit in response to repeated challenges.
Marylou: “But you see, GoatlyOne, you are simply focussing on one particular group of people but I can assure you, the world situation is sooooo much more complex than that. Whatever any group might be out to do, really, you should stop worrying so much.”
Oh nonsense, Marylou. The Jews [just to pull an example out of the air (please do notice the irony there)] never ignore groups that might be in a position to act contrary to their interests. And the Jews keep their leveraged power in large part by constantly paying attention to what other groups are doing, especially when those other groups have a reason to oppose them. It’s a smart thing for them to be doing. And, for the same reason, it’s also a smart thing for any other group to do.
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(Continued from above.)
Marylou: “There are many different groups of people, many different individuals that are part of the whole picture too. Some are pulling one way; others are pulling in a different direction. And everyone has an effect on the end result.
If you were suggesting that there are other significant and cohesive groups within the media with the power to compete with the Jews in regard to what the media’s policies will be, then you are mistaken. There is no such other group. To be sure, advertisers have some influence, but advertisers (even when they are not Jewish themselves) don’t care about the media’s political, social, or psychological manipulations when they don’t affect their profits. As long as their advertising brings them more money, they don’t care whether Britain remains mostly British, or whether it becomes essentially a jointly held colony of Pakistan and Somalia.
By the way, did you hear what Amanda Hopkins said as she noticed Susan Boyle leaving the stage? It was “Oy!” Is she Jewish, too, or was she just parroting the expression?
Marylou: “(As you can see, there is definitely more than one way of looking at things…)”
Certainly, there’s more than one way of looking at things, if significance, relevance, importance, special interests, and the like, are what you’re focused upon. However, if truth is your focus instead, then there are only two possibilities. True and False.
Marylou: “You’ve certainly heard of the butterfly effect, right? Do your own little part. Every little effort counts. Keep your mind open. Pointing the finger at one specific ethnic group is not the right way to go. Instead of attacking, I’m sure you could find a more creative positive way of using your individual energy, that would be more effectively beneficial to all. Good luck with that.”
Yes, I’ve heard of the butterfly effect. It applies to a system dominated by chaos, in which a small initial change leads to large, usually unpredictable results. But the principle that best characterizes the mass media isn’t the butterfly effect. It’s nearer to a “tug of war” effect, where the group with the most influence, the greatest opportunity to dictate policy, wins.
I don’t think that there is any better way for me to spend my energy than to alert the rest of the world to what the Jews are doing with their control of the media (and also, by the way, by their control of the central banks of the Western countries). However, I had not at first planned to be doing that here. On the other hand, if I’m going to be questioned, then I don’t see why I should not provide answers. And if I’m going to be confronted, then I see no reason not to hold up my end of the confrontation.
Thanks for your comment to me. Good luck to you as well.
Goat…what is it exactly, in a nutshell, that you have against Jews?
Oh, and please try to be brief and speak simply; as I have a difficult time understanding big words when it comes to racism
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I’m not certain why Sans expected me to efface myself and back off, though that was apparently the response he was looking for. Where I come from, “racist” is not the detail that matters for the permissibility of speech. Truth is. A racist in America can speak his mind all the day, as long as he tells no slanderous or libelous lies.
Racism is by its very nature not the Truth.
Well the dissertation I was working on disappeared with a keystroke. So let me give you the abridged version.
You assume too much.
I allowed you to rant and did not expect a capitulation.
Marylou is not British, but the laws there are absurdly politically correct.
The plight of women, particularly of older women, is more significant than that of competing races.
Conspiracy theories are based on the theorists’ own need to feel more important than he/she is in the real world.
Quoted evidence means nothing. I could quote anything that never was written in 1909 to support my prejudice.
Get your own post if you want to continue.
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