school help: Vodka at school - Help.com

lol. w.e makes you comfortable at school..
you have to be comfortable to be able to learn..:3

but you also have to be able to pay attention to whats being taught :3

What is bothering you, that you feel you need this crutch?

alchoholic in training

Not helpful :(

Dr. Foreman wrote:
alchoholic in training

Eddieee wrote:
Not helpful :(

Dr. Foreman wrote:
alchoholic in training

truth hurts

CoOkIeMuNsTeRL wrote:
lol. w.e makes you comfortable at school..
you have to be comfortable to be able to learn..:3

but you also have to be able to pay attention to whats being taught :3

What! NO!!! That’s the behavior of someone that is dependent an alcohol IE an Alcoholic…

Talk to your counselor if your having trouble at school, Drink is never the answer, it just adds another problem.

Dr. Foreman wrote:
alchoholic in training

not really.. theres nothing wrong with drinking
as long as your able to control it

and the point of Help.com its help people.. not to make fun of them.. o.o

CoOkIeMuNsTeRL wrote:

Dr. Foreman wrote:
alchoholic in training

not really.. theres nothing wrong with drinking
as long as your able to control it

and the point of Help.com its help people.. not to make fun of them.. o.o

thats the point…shes NOT able to control it. if you actually bothered to read the post, you would have saw that shes dependant on it. not only that, but its illegal. saying “whatever gets you through the day” to this is like saying its ok to shoot up on heroin in the bathroom at lunch if it makes you feel better

Dr. Foreman is right and you Cookiemunstrel are being an idiot. she is using alcohol to cope with stress, not as a means of enjoyment that IS alcoholic behavior!!! She is an ALCOHOLIC FFS! and you are not helping by making excuses for her.

If you really feel that you are dependent on this alcohol to actually keep on going to school that’s pretty bad. You need to get some help. Now!

Joshy woshy Poshy wrote:
Dr. Foreman is right and you Cookiemunstrel are being an idiot. she is using alcohol to cope with stress, not as a means of enjoyment that IS alcoholic behavior!!! She is an ALCOHOLIC FFS! and you are not helping by making excuses for her.

O.o.. k..
dont blow your top.. :)
i made a mistake.. :/

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Yeah if you’re not careful (and I mean really careful) you’ll become dependant on it like and then you will be an alcoholic. If you’re not already you seem very close to being one.

Bella. wrote:
I guess the fact that I was happily going along drinking it and it was helping me to feel better, which I thought was a positive thing. Until I ran out and realized I’m sort of relying on it to feel okay. Which isn’t so positive. It’s not like I have to get utterly smashed to make myself go in, I hardly ever go to school anyway. It’s just when I do, drink makes it slightly more bearable and makes me more relaxed and nicer to be around. I think it’s okay but I was just wondering if anyone else would see that as a problem.

That is alcoholic behavior sweetie, I would call you an alcoholic. You are dependent on alcohol to get you through school. Dr.Foreman is right in comparing it to taking heroin to make it through the day, its the same thing. you need help. Talk to your school counselor.

Dr. Foreman wrote:
alchoholic in training

This.

I may be wrong, but I don’t believe that anyone is making fun of Bella. Bella is asking for help with her concern and we owe it to her to give her the truth. I am very concerned that a student is so unhappy at school that she would turn to vodka or any other form of self-medication to get her through the day.
Bella, I think you need to take yourself to a counselor for help, before your problem escalates. There are professionals, who know how to help you. Don’t let anything keep you from seeking the help you need. Your needs are important. You are valuable.
Do for yourself what you would do for a good friend who told you what you just told us.

yah.. i see what their saying.. :/ you should definately talk to your counselor..
(excuse my spelling)

and Josh..
Calm down a little k? :)

CoOkIeMuNsTeRL wrote:
yah.. i see what their saying.. :/ you should definately talk to your counselor..
(excuse my spelling)

and Josh..
Calm down a little k? :)

Ehm I think you will find all the points I am making are based on fact and from having read the post. You are in no position to be telling me to calm down when in fact I was very calm and offering perfectly valid advise as I have been trained to do in my work. I would appreciate it if you didn’t make mention of my (Imaginary) mood. especially as it has no bearing on the effectiveness of the help i can offer this user.

Actually, everything you just said confirms alcoholic behavior. Denying that it resembles alcoholism at all. Attempting to delude yourself into believing that you need alcohol in order to be a good person, and indeed, to properly function. just because you dont need it 24/7 doesnt mean you arent reliant on it. everything youve said so far has done nothing less than cement the fact that you are, in fact, reliant on alcohol.

Hmm.. :/
yah.. but that can turn into a slippery slop..
and once you fall into it.. its really hard to get out of it..

all i can say is.. you should really try to wean yourself off of it..
because once your off of it.. you should be fine :) and youll feel alot better.

Bella. wrote:
I just find that I’m actually a nicer, more calm, cheerful person when I’ve had some drink. Otherwise I’m just a snappy, paranoid moody *****. It’s not like I have to get really drunk everyday, so let’s not blow things out of proportion. There’s nothing alcoholic about it. I like drink. It makes me love everybody which is really quite something considering some of the people at my school.
I’ve had a lot of issues with school and I’ve been pretty much deemed a “lost cause” now, they’re just leaving me to self destruct and all I want to do is make my last year there as painless as possible. I don’t do it everyday, it’s just I am more tolerant of everything when I do.

Sorry but that IS alcoholic behavior. Does anyone else you know HAVE to drink to make it through school? I never did and I tried to slit my wrists becuase of school. its not normal sweetie.

eah I agree with josh and foreman there, if you “need” to drink thas a problem, better to be moody and cranky then drunk and coughing.

Dr. Foreman wrote:
Actually, everything you just said confirms alcoholic behavior. Denying that it resembles alcoholism at all. Attempting to delude yourself into believing that you need alcohol in order to be a good person, and indeed, to properly function. just because you dont need it 24/7 doesnt mean you arent reliant on it. everything youve said so far has done nothing less than cement the fact that you are, in fact, reliant on alcohol.

Dr. Foreman is right sweetie, Everything in your last reply is classic alcoholic behavior. I have worked with homeless people and young people and have met alcoholics in both groups. You need to find help becuase the longer you are dependent the more dependent you will become and the harder it will be to give up.

Allow me to sum up everything everyone has said.
As a 16 year old i have seen these things, and trust me your peers know.
they ask you to emphasize the fact that you are doing, hoping to make you feel embarrassed and stop. I have seen these things before and someone in the exact situation. All i can say is get some help, stay sober and if nothing works. Find SERIOUS help.

I hope i have helped you, don’t forget there always others like you who are looking for help to but do not pass this off as an excuse.

Sincerely, The1andOnly

You shouldnt haveto depend on a substance to get you through the day though, that will only lead to trouble, there are lots of diffrent counslers next time might be better, in your post you asked if it was a problem and to me I really think it is.

you arent going to convince us that youre not addicted. you asked us if there was a problem, we said there was, and now youre denying it, which means the only reason you got on here in the first place was to hear people say that what youre doing is ok, so you dont feel bad about yourself.

Bella. wrote:
Nooo I don’t need help particularly I seriously don’t drink that much, don’t get carried away here. I’ve been forced into counseling before when I was misbehaving at school and I just sat there and nodded my head at everything the counselor said until it was time to go home. I hated it. It doesn’t help and honestly alcohol is the best counselor I’ve ever had, I never get completely hammered unless I’m out and I probably drink less than a lot of my friends because although they don’t drink at school I’m usually the most sober one on nights out and parties. It just helps me to be friendly and calm which I think is nicer for everybody.

Look being an alcoholic doesnt mean you get drunk all the time or are always drunk, it doesn’t even matter how much you drink. It is all about why you drink, you drink to cope and that is the definition of alcoholism. Sorry sweetie but if you cant see this and give it up then you’re an alcoholic and you will need to realize this sooner rather than later before you ruin this part of your life.

Bella. wrote:
Nooo I don’t need help particularly I seriously don’t drink that much, don’t get carried away here. I’ve been forced into counseling before when I was misbehaving at school and I just sat there and nodded my head at everything the counselor said until it was time to go home. I hated it. It doesn’t help and honestly alcohol is the best counselor I’ve ever had, I never get completely hammered unless I’m out and I probably drink less than a lot of my friends because although they don’t drink at school I’m usually the most sober one on nights out and parties. It just helps me to be friendly and calm which I think is nicer for everybody.

One thing I learned long ago is that when someone does not want help, we can’t help them them. Bella, you came here asking for help.
You asked if it was, “bad that I can’t stand school without sipping on vodka and diet coke throughout the day?”
Yes, it is bad. You are self-medicating. I was not suggestion that you go to a counselor someone else chose to help you. My suggestion is that you find a counselor to help you with your problem. I have nothing to gain by having you do that, but you do. Take care of yourself.

It can only get worse Bella. You have a chance to stop that from happening, tell your councilor what you have told us. show her/him this post if you need too. The helps is there you just need to ask for it.

Bella. wrote:
I posted it because I thought everyone was going to tell me that it’s fine and then I’d feel better.

Hopefully you see now it isn’t fine. It isn’t whats best for you. Being mature and facing up to the situation you are in and making it better yourself, with the help of people willing to help you out is what you need to do. Not drink to cope. Drinking should only be for fun, with friends. Not to cope with life, thats alcoholism.

Bella. wrote:

Dr. Foreman wrote:
you arent going to convince us that youre not addicted. you asked us if there was a problem, we said there was, and now youre denying it, which means the only reason you got on here in the first place was to hear people say that what youre doing is ok, so you dont feel bad about yourself.

Okay, I’ll admit I did post this so people would tell me it’s fine, and I really thought they would. I always thought being an alcoholic was someone who just got completely pissed all day everyday. And I don’t do that.
I’ll take what you’ve all said on board & think about it but I can’t see myself stopping anytime soon. It’s only occasional anyway.

god be with you. enjoy life as a degenerate

This is DEFINITELY a problem. FIrst of all, why do you “not go to shcool very often”. And second, whats getting you down thats making you hafve to drink? I’m not going to claim your an alcoholic or that your out of control but…this IS a problem, please try and realize that.

Talk!
When you go to a counselor talk for gods sake! they aren’t psychic!
They cant help without you talking to them, when you go don’t sit and nod your head. open your mouth and talk to them ffs. if you tell them whats wrong then they can figure out what to do.

Bella. wrote:
Okay
It’s morning now, and I’m about to go to school.
I’ve thought about what you’ve all said properly, and I can see that you’re right. Sorry for not taking it in at first, I was trying to completely deny it but at some point I was going to have to admit it.
Today I’m not going to bring any in, and I won’t tomorrow, the next day or ever.
Thankyou all for being honest with me and although I feel quite sick at the idea of not having a drink to turn to everytime somebody stresses me out, I’ll just have to deal with it.
Thanks again xx

Hope you feel better~ :)
and GL..

id just like to say that drinking at school is bad. not cause its illegal or any of that crap but casue i got caught drunk at school off vodka my freshman year and was put up for expulsion. it was ok cause all i had to do was kiss a lil *** and i got off on a 1 year contract, but please be careful cause gettin caught blows. i dont drink at school anymore, now i just go 2 blocks to my house and smoke a blunt then go back to school. anyway, alcohol is bad, smoke dank :)

I know I’m a little late, but this post is intriguing. A lot of good stuff has been said and, a month later, I really hope you’ve stuck to your decision to quit, Bella. Had you asked me a month ago, I would have told you that YES, absolutely it is a problem. You have the classic makings of an alcoholic, Bell, if you aren’t already. Unfortunately, addiction is in one’s genes and genes know no age. It is not unheard of, therefore, for teenagers to show up at AA meetings. I’m also guessing that one or both of your parents is an addict of some sort, as it tends to run in the family. As such, I really, really, really hope that you’ve managed to get a handle on your drinking in school. If not, GET YOUR BUTT to AA and get some help before you end up dead or in the hospital or worse. You also need to STAY AWAY from functions and parties where your friends might be drinking heavily. I’m very serious, Bell - this is a slippery slope and I hate to see anyone sliding down it.

I do think, however, that you’ve probably also got some serious issues with anxiety and that may have been the window that led to the drinking. That is very understandable, but remember that drinking is NOT a solution - it will only make the problem worse in the long run.

Bella. wrote:
I think every counselor within the vicinity has given up on me. I’m hours late to school everyday or don’t go because I have an obsessive routine that I feel I have to complete before I go out and it’s getting more and more elaborate and important to me.

Not that I know any more than your counselors, but this, to me, sounds like classic Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder. If they haven’t arrived at that conclusion, it would really surprise me. OCD is treated in two ways - with cognitive behavioral therapy, where you basically sit in a councilor’s office and talk. Secondly, it’s also treated with medicines, which a counselors or psychologist cannot prescribe. Generally, to reduce the obsessions, you need higher doses of SSRI anti-depressants and you need to take them for a bit longer before they’ll start to work. (Say, 2-3 months.) Your family doctor can prescribe these for you and help you monitor their effectiveness. If your rituals are taking literally hours of your day to complete, then you really need to get some help for this because it is YOU that is suffering from it. Again, however, you can’t drink alcohol while taking these medicines or they won’t work, so you’ve got to get that under control.

I know you have a lot more going on in your life, Bella, but with anything we need to change, we have to start small and work our way up. I’m not sure what kind(s) of therapists you saw, but there are good therapists and there are bad therapists. It sounds like you could really use some guidance in a lot of areas, so I would not give up on them if I were you. Just keep looking until you find the right one. No one’s going to “cure” this for you…we sort of cure ourselves in that regard, but they can usually help us along the way. Good luck, Bella!