Look at the currently popular post lately its been suicide post - Help.com

point taken

At the end of the day, for all the attention seeking posts out there, there might be one that is genuine. Sometimes people just need an impartial stranger to talk to, to express themselves, if you help one person, what’s the difference?

It like being a judge. YOu would rather let 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man go to jail.

Yeah we know.

Many of people have posted something exactly like what your saying - but the fact is you cant control what other people post and what they reply to so there is no point in trying to convince people otherwise.

If you don’t like it, don’t click on it. That’s what its come to for me - I’ve said the exact same thing a dozen times, but people still want to try.

It’s help.com…even for the pity victims.

Your argument doesn’t make any sense.
I don’t know the post you’re talking about (about the doctors son) but it doesn’t sound like a life or death situation. Suicide however.. Yeah.
If you don’t want to see it up there that’s your problem. It’s not about the most popular post, it’s about helping. Anyone and everyone who asks for it. If you don’t want to help, then why are you here? I’m confused.

MCRrox wrote:
ppl jump on suicide posts cuz they want to feel important i guess idk

I think you’re generalizing. There are some suicide posts that are genuine and when all else fails for those people, they come here hoping they find a kind ear or a kind comment. And sometimes that’s all it takes to actually buy them another day. People don’t feel important because they jump on this particular type of posts. They just do it hoping and thinking that maybe they are helping someone deal better with life’s pressures. I would never think that about anybody here, even people whom I dislike or cannot get along with.

I think he’s just appalled by all the people who jump on a sucide post instead of trying to help someone that actually WANTS to help themselves.

Its true, some people honestly want help and have sucidal tendencies, but the majority of the sucide posts i’ve seen - are of posters who want attention and are confused and dont know what to do with themselves so they whine about “oh poor me”

While someone who actually wants to help themselves gets no advice - for reasons unknown.

It’s not about whether these people really intend on killing themselves before long but rather that they are sensibly depressed and frustrated with the world, and would like some advice on how to cope with such grave experiences. If they just want attention, then that’s fine because their frolicly parade will end in due time. But unfortunately we cannot distinguish the genuine suicidal people from the specious ones. And it would be presumptuous of everyone here to lump every suicidal poster in the boat of dishonesty only because the matter is unverifiable.

I’m not taking it personally. I just don’t understand why you, or anyone else, would think this way. The reason that they are the most popular, or why any post becomes most popular, is because there are a lot of replies to it. It’s not something that anyone decides. I’ve often seen that the most popular post has only a few people on it. It’s only popular because those people follow it up. They keep replying. Usually because in the particular post, to have a real conversation and to help, quite a few replies are necessary. Nobody plans which post becomes the most popular. It’s pure chance, and currently, coincidence.

“Genuine suicide threats” - I dont understand this sentence.

If it was genuine, you wouldn’t be “threatening” it, is all i’m saying.

zip-in-time wrote:

littlenick wrote:

MCRrox wrote:
ppl jump on suicide posts cuz they want to feel important i guess idk

I think you’re generalizing. There are some suicide posts that are genuine and when all else fails for those people, they come here hoping they find a kind ear or a kind comment. And sometimes that’s all it takes to actually buy them another day. People don’t feel important because they jump on this particular type of posts. They just do it hoping and thinking that maybe they are helping someone deal better with life’s pressures. I would never think that about anybody here, even people whom I dislike or cannot get along with.

and i dont know if i agree with the people want to fell inportant,but what if your a person wanting attention and nothing more and you go to help . com and on the main page under most popular post think about the MOST POPULAR thing you see a suicide post what does that make you want to do? answer that signmy cast

I think you’re getting a tad over-excited here. Don’t turn this into a conspiracy. I’m not denying that there are people like that. But the most popular post isn’t a suicide post anymore frequently then it is a post about relationships or money or random topics of interest or anything else.

i was suicidal. a person rarely wants to die when they do. its just the pain there are feeling is too much to bare. i never wrote posts or told anyone but its nice to talk to people to feel as though you are wanted and it gives you a reason to get through that day. they are looking for reassurence that everything is going to be ok to give them a sense of hope. they dont want to die but they dont want to have to be in constant pain. there may be some attention seekers i know plenty but take it from someone that really was close. i had a note and a plan and a date. i took a lot of medicine one day as a cry for help not to kill myself but as one last resort. i am still here because of that day. im so happy i am too i love life now. sometimes a person must reach such a low in their life to appreciate things more. when you are in that low to hear all the advice and stories of survial or people going through the same thing give you more reason to not do it then to do it. there is no harm in that.

Leslie63 wrote:
i was suicidal. a person rarely wants to die when they do. its just the pain there are feeling is too much to bare. i never wrote posts or told anyone but its nice to talk to people to feel as though you are wanted and it gives you a reason to get through that day. they are looking for reassurence that everything is going to be ok to give them a sense of hope. they dont want to die but they dont want to have to be in constant pain. there may be some attention seekers i know plenty but take it from someone that really was close. i had a note and a plan and a date. i took a lot of medicine one day as a cry for help not to kill myself but as one last resort. i am still here because of that day. im so happy i am too i love life now. sometimes a person must reach such a low in their life to appreciate things more. when you are in that low to hear all the advice and stories of survial or people going through the same thing give you more reason to not do it then to do it. there is no harm in that.

See that was honest. Just learn how to detect the BS from the honest ones and your good to go.

zip-in-time wrote:
heres a senerio mary just broke up with her boyfriend and is feeling suicidal she goes to help in a reply someone finds out she lives with her dad so they tell her talk to your dad about it as part of there advice not knowing the dad was molesting her because she was to shy to talk about that so she walks away from the computer writes a note i was thinking about killing myself when i got on help.com to get advice someone told me i shopuld go to my parents all i have is my dad who abuses me im done with this she kills herself the detectives get the note pull her computer see yes here it is the greedy lawer steps in sues the hell out of help.com not to say shuts it down then what?

that hasnt happened yet i dont see your point. that wouldnt be the sites fault because this is a help website and the adive that was given was legitment. this site has been on here a while and there hasnt been problems. you might as well shut the website down if your not willing to help people.

Help.com have it stipulated in their TOS about the help you can get here. They can’t be sued for that.

Well you don’t. And thank God for that considering you’re so biased.
It’s up to the people of help.com what the most popular post is.
Cry me a river.
Build a bridge.
Get over it.
And it’s not always.

zip-in-time wrote:

signmycast wrote:
Help.com have it stipulated in their TOU about the help you can get here. They can’t be sued for that.

are you a lawyer? i know they where worried about it a few months back i think they should of acted on it

TOU wrote:
You may be exposed to content that you find offensive, indecent, or objectionable or that is inaccurate, and you bear all risks associated with using that content. We have the right, but not the obligation, to remove any content that may, in our sole discretion, violate these Terms or that is otherwise objectionable.

zip-in-time wrote:

signmycast wrote:
Your argument doesn’t make any sense.
I don’t know the post you’re talking about (about the doctors son) but it doesn’t sound like a life or death situation. Suicide however.. Yeah.
If you don’t want to see it up there that’s your problem. It’s not about the most popular post, it’s about helping. Anyone and everyone who asks for it. If you don’t want to help, then why are you here? I’m confused.

why are you taking this so personal of course i want to help im just saying why are they becoming the most popular?if you want to help nothing but suicide start a suicide help line and then refer all to it,im just saying for the past few weeks at least the mpost popular has been suicide post and we dont know if its the same one spinning it especially if its posted anon. its just for attention nothing else sorry im the one to say it but i know there alot that think it

They are the most popular because they are really important i guess… i mean suicide isnt something you joke about. Yes people do but you cant get mad at the people that jump to help them whether they are faking it or not. Thats just the thing. We dont know if their telling the truth and we probably will never know.

Heck yeah. I know not everyone likes it. I don’t like it either. But, there ain’t nothing you can do about it.

Yeah but you can’t. Unless you got everyone on help to agree to not reply at all. Which isn’t possible..

Just to point out, there is no wrong thing to say to someone who is suicidal. If they’ve gotten to the point where they literally feel that bad they want to kill themselves there is nothing you can say to make them feel worse than that. You can’t say something to a person who is suicidal to make them suicidal, their thought and want of doing it is already there.

I told the last guy to do it, haha

I think some of them are genuine posts, so what if they are most popular???? Just dont look at them.

I think that if this isn’t an emo helpline and its for actual solving of problems, people who are looking to get things done, i have no problem hearing about peoples problems but when they say outright that they dont want help and they want to kill themselves then I say **** it, you were on the wrong site not to ask for help

suicidal people WANT to be helped…hence the posting it on the internet.

i think u need to find ways to ignore these sort of posts, its unfair on the suicidal if u think u should be privilidged enough for them to be ignored.

OMFG! Are you that ignorant? Yes you are.

People are complicated things that can feel multiple emotions and thoughts at once. You can be suicidal and want to be stopped at the same time but if you ignore them then they could kill themselves you selfish lowlife. I’ve been more likely to kill myself just out of the fact someone didnt believe i was suicidal and would feel i have to prove them wrong but Im not as depressed as some people so I havent attempted once yet and am not as depressed right now so maybe not soon. If you dont like it, dont talk to them, end of story.

Come to think of it… people who make posts like these should be the ones ignored

*walks out and steals some things on the way*

I read all of your comments and everybody has one thing in common, if a person really needs help, nobody minds being there for them. And you never know who is for real or not. I have been very depressed, but I am much better since I listen to some of you. You have given me hope when I swear I thought there was none; espcially in the last 10 days. I am in the same boat, but in much better frame of mind. A lot of you are very intuitive and have excellent advice. If someone really wants to off themselves, probably anything you said would not keep them from doing it, but there is always a possibility that it might!Everybody needs to vent and having a way to do it without actually knowing the people I vent to has worked for me-I was not suicidal, but extremely depressed. THings are better, so I thank all of the people who have helped me, and others. Sometimes it just takes a little caring and attention to get a person motivated and back on the right path-as far as keeping the post going and going, you don’t have to keep responding-move on after you have said what needed to be said-I don’t think the last person that wenton for days was truly serious, but that is just my opinion, so I stopped responding, it was redundant

Another think that should be explicitly pointed out is that most people who visit this site don’t ever post anything; they just come along and read some of the posts and replies. Now if a genuinely suicidal person comes along (and I’m positive it happens) then they may not even post, they’re more likely to just read replies to similiar posts. If we write something, it isn’t just for the poster, its for anyone else who reads it and more people should think about that. Okay, so some people may exaggerate their feelings sometimes and make a post about wanting to kill themselves just to get attention; but anyone who stumbles upon it and is genuinely feeling that way is gonna readthe same replies.

exactly!

Anyone putting suicide notes on this site just wants attention. i say to them, if you cant find something to live for, find something to die for instead.

advice queen… ish wrote:
anyone putting suicide notes on this site just wants attention. i say to them, if you cant find something to live for, find something to die for instead.

Most people who are suicidal just want attention. that is most of their problem.

this is stupid…if you don’t want to “Give them attention” then dont. Let others help…

tubbyocharle wrote:
this is stupid…if you don’t want to “Give them attention” then dont. Let others help…

they just want people to feel sorry for them. its complete crap.

advice queen… ish wrote:

tubbyocharle wrote:
this is stupid…if you don’t want to “Give them attention” then dont. Let others help…

they just want people to feel sorry for them. its complete crap.

Have you ever been suicidal?

fractal.scatter wrote:

advice queen… ish wrote:

tubbyocharle wrote:
this is stupid…if you don’t want to “Give them attention” then dont. Let others help…

they just want people to feel sorry for them. its complete crap.

Have you ever been suicidal?

i felt like the worlds biggest a$$ after a two second thought. life is a rare miracle. earth is the olney planet in out entire galaxy with advanced life. its pretty stupid to take it for granted.

advice queen… ish wrote:

fractal.scatter wrote:

advice queen… ish wrote:

tubbyocharle wrote:
this is stupid…if you don’t want to “Give them attention” then dont. Let others help…

they just want people to feel sorry for them. its complete crap.

Have you ever been suicidal?

i felt like the worlds biggest a$$ after a two second thought. life is a rare miracle. earth is the olney planet in out entire galaxy with advanced life. its pretty stupid to take it for granted.

Don’t you think people don’t know that? Yet still there are those that are suicidal. You label it as ‘pretty stupid’ just because you cannot conceive or comprehend their problems or mentality that leads them to feeling suicidal. That’s why they want attention. They want people to understand how they’re feeling.

Anonymous wrote:
heres an idea, make a suicide post, wait for some replies then fake kill yourself and see what everyone does. its genius

Dont disgrace the word “genius” for such pure idiocy

fractal.scatter wrote:

advice queen… ish wrote:

fractal.scatter wrote:

advice queen… ish wrote:

tubbyocharle wrote:
this is stupid…if you don’t want to “Give them attention” then dont. Let others help…

they just want people to feel sorry for them. its complete crap.

Have you ever been suicidal?

i felt like the worlds biggest a$$ after a two second thought. life is a rare miracle. earth is the olney planet in out entire galaxy with advanced life. its pretty stupid to take it for granted.

Don’t you think people don’t know that? Yet still there are those that are suicidal. You label it as ‘pretty stupid’ just because you cannot conceive or comprehend their problems or mentality that leads them to feeling suicidal. That’s why they want attention. They want people to understand how they’re feeling.

Anyone who cant put themselves in other peoples shoes have disorder. Either anti-social personality disorder or autism on some level

sum wrote:
Anyone who cant put themselves in other peoples shoes have disorder. Either anti-social personality disorder or autism on some level

So no one has any business telling suicidal people that ‘it’s not that bad’ or even worse ‘you’ll get over it’. Clearly if the person has got to the point where it is bad enough that they would rather die than live with the way their life is, then they need to talk it through and have some proper help; not be told by some people that they are over-reacting and that their are people in worse off situaions.

fractal.scatter wrote:

sum wrote:
Anyone who cant put themselves in other peoples shoes have disorder. Either anti-social personality disorder or autism on some level

So no one has any business telling suicidal people that ‘it’s not that bad’ or even worse ‘you’ll get over it’. Clearly if the person has got to the point where it is bad enough that they would rather die than live with the way their life is, then they need to talk it through and have some proper help; not be told by some people that they are over-reacting and that their are people in worse off situaions.

i have felt suicidal before, but its not worth persuing. but what i’m talking aboiut isnt suicidal people in general, its idiots muttering on to help.com about it. real sucidal people need help, understanding and empathy, but i wont give it too people who arnt seriouse. if they were, they would waste time with us. they would care what we think. thats the truth, and the end of it.

fractal.scatter wrote:

sum wrote:
Anyone who cant put themselves in other peoples shoes have disorder. Either anti-social personality disorder or autism on some level

So no one has any business telling suicidal people that ‘it’s not that bad’ or even worse ‘you’ll get over it’. Clearly if the person has got to the point where it is bad enough that they would rather die than live with the way their life is, then they need to talk it through and have some proper help; not be told by some people that they are over-reacting and that their are people in worse off situaions.

Well I guess it determines on the individual though. I always hate when someone says “there are people worse off than you” thats for sure. I mean everyone’s feelings are pretty alike even if the situations arent as bad as some others and if the person is empathetic of others then other people being worse only makes them feel sadder, i know it does for me.

advice queen… ish wrote:
i have felt suicidal before, but its not worth persuing. but what i’m talking aboiut isnt suicidal people in general, its idiots muttering on to help.com about it. real sucidal people need help, understanding and empathy, but i wont give it too people who arnt seriouse. if they were, they would waste time with us. they would care what we think. thats the truth, and the end of it.

Yeah of course there’s usually a big difference between someone on here and someone sat on the edge of a bridge in terms of their mental state. People have come on here before and I know of at least one case where a girl actually OD’ed whilst talking to us on here, and it was only because someone from here knew where abouts she was that paramedics were able to get to her. So whilst 99% of the people who come on here are sorta 14-17 year olds who get depressed or just pissed off sometimes, it’s not right to say that everyone on here does it purely as a vent and for attention, and are not serious about there actually commiting suicide.

Like I said, I reckon most suicidal people who come here don’t even post (for reasons like you’ve said), but I’m pretty sure they read the post and replies. I know I definatley would.

zip-in-time wrote:

fractal.scatter wrote:
Just to point out, there is no wrong thing to say to someone who is suicidal. If they’ve gotten to the point where they literally feel that bad they want to kill themselves there is nothing you can say to make them feel worse than that. You can’t say something to a person who is suicidal to make them suicidal, their thought and want of doing it is already there.

wrong! even though they get flagged how about the a-hole that tell them go ahead do it

If they are already here asking for help and are ACTUALLY suicidal; there is nothing you can say that will make them want to do it more than they already do. Telling them to do it won’t make them do it just as me telling you to do something won’t make you do it. If they say they want to kill themselves and you tell them to go ahead, it doesn’t make them want to do it more that they did in the first place.

advice queen… ish wrote:
i have felt suicidal before, but its not worth persuing. but what i’m talking aboiut isnt suicidal people in general, its idiots muttering on to help.com about it. real sucidal people need help, understanding and empathy, but i wont give it too people who arnt seriouse. if they were, they would waste time with us. they would care what we think. thats the truth, and the end of it.

Just because someone might not be suicidal doesnt mean they dont need help. If its trying to get attention then thats obvious that they wish they were actually suicidal or have problems. Sometimes when im not suicidal i almost wish i was occasionally oddly just so people would care instead of ignoring and putting down and accusing me of overreacting and saying i have to suck it up. =(

Of course trolls are excluded lol

fractal.scatter wrote:
Yeah of course there’s usually a big difference between someone on here and someone sat on the edge of a bridge in terms of their mental state. People have come on here before and I know of at least one case where a girl actually OD’ed whilst talking to us on here, and it was only because someone from here knew where abouts she was that paramedics were able to get to her. So whilst 99% of the people who come on here are sorta 14-17 year olds who get depressed or just pissed off sometimes, it’s not right to say that everyone on here does it purely as a vent and for attention, and are not serious about there actually commiting suicide.

Like I said, I reckon most suicidal people who come here don’t even post (for reasons like you’ve said), but I’m pretty sure they read the post and replies. I know I definatley would.

90% of statistics are made up… im 22 and depressed and ive seen people in there 40s here talking suicide

fractal.scatter wrote:

zip-in-time wrote:

fractal.scatter wrote:
Just to point out, there is no wrong thing to say to someone who is suicidal. If they’ve gotten to the point where they literally feel that bad they want to kill themselves there is nothing you can say to make them feel worse than that. You can’t say something to a person who is suicidal to make them suicidal, their thought and want of doing it is already there.

wrong! even though they get flagged how about the a-hole that tell them go ahead do it

If they are already here asking for help and are ACTUALLY suicidal; there is nothing you can say that will make them want to do it more than they already do. Telling them to do it won’t make them do it just as me telling you to do something won’t make you do it. If they say they want to kill themselves and you tell them to go ahead, it doesn’t make them want to do it more that they did in the first place.

Thats bull ****… they would be more likely to do it just to prove them wrong in their thoughts that they wont do it.

I can’t believe there was so much time examining this-if you want to help then do so,if you think it’s crap and you just can’t be bothered, don’t-just remember, if you cannot reach out and at least try to sympathize or empathize, you will experience the same feelings that the person who posted one of these days-that’s just the way it is-the law of the universe-not saying you have to stay for hours, but a word of kindness only takes a second or two-you may need these words one day yourself and everybody just might think you are full of crap or they just don’t have time to be bothered

There might be one that is real and the thought that I am helping someone who may need it is enough to get me to reply to them.

I think the annon person who wrote this is very insensitive and only cares about themselves. If you dont like reading those posts, dont click on them. I almost killed myself not long ago, but I got on here as I didnt have ANYONE else to turn to. thanks to several great souls on here, I didnt.

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