I understand your viewpoint, and respect the thorough detail you provided, but I, myself, don’t believe I should wear anything covering my face.
The only problem is that you have just strawmaned a living, conscious, self-aware, priceless individual into a static object that is able to be priced based on physical characteristics. It is important to put effort into arguments.
I Agree - Women is like diamond
Disagree - when a woman wear scarf and wear her body , actually she put the diamond in the safe place - Lady Fatima told that God wants a woman to wear her body in order that her husband can not think about any other woman, and in this way woman can be happy when thier husband go to work , they do not have to be worry that maybe thier husabnd are with other women , and also a man can be sure that his wife never cheat him, the family would be warmer , the rate of divorce will decress , women seems fresher for thier husband and man can be more happy for haveing a woman that her beauty does belong just to him , she is a diamond that God Give him only , no other man in the world , so he works better, he bare the difficulty better , he can be proud , he feel safe more ,he is more motivated and more active , and the same for women.
(Women is like a diamond but not diamond. Diamond doesnot have any feelings but women has all the feelings like happy, sad etc. Women more valuable than diamond. So women is greater than all)
I personally believe men should be responsible for their own behaviour rather than lie it on women. One time a muslim boy used the reason he found me attractive to treat me in an unforgiving way as an excuse to justify his actions. I think personally it was outragious and absurd.
He originally came from the middle east and really, if he is to come here, he should respect out culture and us women. In the eyes of the law here, we are equal citzens, and that is how I like to be treated.
I think muslim women can wear a veil if they want, but really it would be unfair if it is forced on them. They should have a choice. but I think men are still responsible for their own behaviour and they have the capability for self control.
I also think a man should trust his wife to not cheat on him.
triumphalic wrote:
I understand your viewpoint, and respect the thorough detail you provided, but I, myself, don’t believe I should wear anything covering my face.
ya you correct
spiritedsoul wrote:
I personally believe men should be responsible for their own behaviour rather than lie it on women. One time a muslim boy used the reason he found me attractive to treat me in an unforgiving way as an excuse to justify his actions. I think personally it was outragious and absurd.
He originally came from the middle east and really, if he is to come here, he should respect out culture and us women. In the eyes of the law here, we are equal citzens, and that is how I like to be treated.
I think muslim women can wear a veil if they want, but really it would be unfair if it is forced on them. They should have a choice. but I think men are still responsible for their own behaviour and they have the capability for self control.
self control not only for men and women also.
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5 months, 3 weeks ago (22 minutes after post)
so if this isn’t objectifying women, then why don’t men need to be covered up as well? Because it is a matter of protecting the property of patriarchy.
I dont see any Islamic man covering his face. Only women cover their faces. So it means that men are dominating women.
i am a muslim girl, wearing a face is not Islam rule , a muslim girl should wear her hair. and there is verse in our holy book that it state in accapting the right ar wrong all human beings are free, each person is free to choose his or her way.
Husban should trust his wife to not cheat on him
paria100 wrote:
i am a muslim girl, wearing a face is not Islam rule , a muslim girl should wear her hair. and there is verse in our holy book that it state in accapting the right ar wrong all human beings are free, each person is free to choose his or her way.
so Everyone trust their life partner.
i am agree with that woman are more valuable than diamond. but i think we should not compare men with women , God create them different so the treating them is different.
Sorry paria i dont agree this, all are human. Man cant live without women. But women can. Women mentally stonger than men. so y we treat them is different.
it is wrong to say that the act of a person can not influence on other people life,imagine yourself in the boat, you are with your firends , suddenly one of your firend start to make hole in the bottem of the boat, do you object to your friend or not?so God says that every body is responsible for his duty and behaviour but it does not mean that you can not influence peoples life
if what all of you say is right, why i see many girls come to chat and talk about how thier boy firends cheat them, do you think it is good that every body follow his passions and have a fun with a girl and then leave her and say oh do not care, it is part of life.
if you look to the all universe you see that every thing is working in the amazing accurate way.
I think fair and justice is not that all people be treated the same all the time,
justice means every one treated according his or her talents and characteristic.
but Islam rules are same between men and women about 95%. so the difference is just about the very little laws.Do not think that women are limited in wearing too. you have more choice and feel better , because men respect you for your personality not for your female absorbment, it is near to fair that i will be respected for my personality as human being not for sexcy matters.
Mr. P wrote:
The only problem is that you have just strawmaned a living, conscious, self-aware, priceless individual into a static object that is able to be priced based on physical characteristics. It is important to put effort into arguments.
i am agree with you that personality and chractersitic are more valuable.for improvment we need some basic rules. when a woman wear her body , actually she prepare the way of improving herself better, all the men respect her for her behaivour and personlity not female absorbment.that is what you mean.
spiritedsoul wrote:
I personally believe men should be responsible for their own behaviour rather than lie it on women. One time a muslim boy used the reason he found me attractive to treat me in an unforgiving way as an excuse to justify his actions. I think personally it was outragious and absurd.
He originally came from the middle east and really, if he is to come here, he should respect out culture and us women. In the eyes of the law here, we are equal citzens, and that is how I like to be treated.
I think muslim women can wear a veil if they want, but really it would be unfair if it is forced on them. They should have a choice. but I think men are still responsible for their own behaviour and they have the capability for self control.
Our Prophet Mohammad(peace be upon him) told that the mean men do not respect
women but gentelman and youth respect women”
and I think when want to judge about a beliefe we should judge about the spirit of the beliefe not the followers behaviour maybe someone are not good follower
and you may aslo have been annoyed by other boys from your relegion
do u think that is just because of relegion.
well, I didnt say he did it because he’s muslim. but in the middle east women are classified as second class citezens. Many guys from there treat me as if im less than human. Yes guys from here have treated me as an object, but not come across any who have treated me to such a bad extend from those guys who come from the middle east.
I have been harrassed by 3 middle eastern men overall, as far as im aware off, they dont know each other.
you want to say that a man who leave in the society which women wear scarf influence on thier behaviour, but I should tell you a very relegiouse man never offend any one, because our relegion never accept it, i try to say you should not judge with some cases and do not think thier behaviour shows the whole relegion, but the spirit of Islam is respecting woman as much as possible.
Id like to think everyone has the opportunity to be respected.
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5 months, 3 weeks ago (2 days, 23 hours after post)
I don’t care what anyone does as long as they leave those who want to be let alone alone.
triumphalic
Mr. P
Ravi
spiritedsoul