god help: what’s the reason behinde creation? - Help.com

one ‘proof’ (you know you can’t actually prove it, right?) : the Fibonacci Sequence

why? boredom, love, who knows - most likely rather impossible to grasp from our plane of existence.

There is no proof, why do you think there has been so many wars to do with religion?
Everyone believes a different thing and each group believe they are right.
Fact is it is all about faith, meaning there is no proof so you have to close your eyes and just hope that it was all worth it in the end.

I have no religion, I believe they were all tales to entertain people and as the years passed people figured out that these tales were a great way to control people and did so.

Does there need to be a reason for anything?
We are here and that is that.

life.

berboor wrote:
So . . .
You’re saying we don’t know if god exist just like we don’t know that Santa does?

lol, well we know that there is no santa now but we don’t know if there was one in the past, there may have been an old guy giving gifts to kids and later died, the story got carried on to make christmas more magical for kids as not everyone is religious and has christmas just because it was about jesus.

The God thing is hard to proove either way as it is all about some creator who is so powerful and lives in heaven, it is alot harder to just believe than the fact that years ago some guy called saint nick gave gifts.

actually, christmas was a pagan celebration of light over darkness (from dec 24 on, the days grow longer again) way before christianity ‘integrated’ it.

also, religion and god are not the same - and jezus was far from the first of his kind.

Gynan Tonix wrote:
actually, christmas was a pagan celebration of light over darkness (from dec 24 on, the days grow longer again) way before christianity ‘integrated’ it.

also, religion and god are not the same - and jezus was far from the first of his kind.

See, that’s how much I know.
I don’t understand how people can take for fact things written thousands of years ago as fact..
I mean, every played the game chinese whispers?

Unfortunately, I cannot provide any empirical evidence that a God does in fact exist. With that being said, I don’t think that leaves a whole lot of room for any one else to claim the existence of a God unless they are semi-divine themselves, or have had a personal related experience(s). I highly doubt the first one, and if the latter were to be true, then it would be far to difficult for even somebody else to witness such paranormalities. Ultimately, there is no omnipresent proof in support of a God. Therefore, it leaves mankind no choice but to either have faith in one or live a life without taking heed to any God.

To be honest, I think religion has created chaos and has done nothing more but caused humanity to experience disintegration. With every religion trying desperately to negate the other’s doctrine, well it doesn’t necessarily bring peace and comfort to the hearts of people. Let’s face reality here, religion has become a vehement competition in a lot of places and it has even brought war upon those who believe that theirs should be the sole leader of religions. The ends do not justify the means in the case of religion. And it will bring out the worst in people for years to come.

The world could never be perfect, but with religion removed from the equation, we would surely expect to see a little more light shining in the dark spaces.

mills wrote:
The world could never be perfect, but with religion removed from the equation, we would surely expect to see a little more light shining in the dark spaces.

don’t you think it’s a little illogical to blame a human construct for the state of the human condition? religion is not good or evil, it just is, some people use it for evil, but it’s naive to think that without religion the world would be a little better. if it wasn’t religion it would just be something else.

Religion was a source for war. How do you prevent a war from erupting? You eliminate the source before it becomes evident and scabrous. It would be credulous for anyone to think that religion is promoting and benefiting the world more so than it is destroying it. Religion elicits dissidence, and with dissidence, you can expect to see animosity. The ultimate idea here is to integrate every person on the planet, not divide them by introducing all of these variegated dogmas.

forgive me but i fundamentally disagree with you, mostly because of a basic error in your logic; religion was not, nor ever will be, the source of war. the various needs, desires and pathologies of the human condition are the source for war, religion may well be used as the expression of those emotions, and the cause of the war, but it is not the source. religion is like a stick that people hit each other with, you can’t honestly say that if you took away the stick people would stop hitting each other.

If you took away the stick, the injuries would be less severe.

not if you replaced the stick with a knife… :P

But its ok to let them keep the stick for use? I thought the objective was to eliminate the arsenal of weapons?

you’re right…ok…we get rid of the stick, but what if they learn kung fu? then the injuries would be just as bad!

I think this debate is turning into something far too ridiculous for me to continue. The stick will be brandished just like the knife, or any other weapon you allow man to use in order to provoke those who don’t conform.

…yeah…wasn’t that my point?

Your point was to let them keep the stick, along with everything else. But in my view, religion is more dangerous than a stick. Let’s not deny the power and effect that religion has on this world. It should represent as a double-bladed axe, because either way you turn the blade it will still split you in half.

i thought we had left the serious discussion and moved into gentle satire, and now i’m not sure where we are. i don’t see this ending well…

I’ve never known an advocate for religion to be a satirist. You must be one of a kind.

i’m not an advocate for religion! …i don’t know how this conversation has gone so very awry…

I believe it all began when you said that religion is similar to a stick. I just couldn’t see the logic in that abstract concept. But if you want to exchange pleasantries, I’d be more than happy to…

religion is like a stick - even when you throw it away, someone is probably just gonna bring it back?

i was just trying to put across the idea that your thinking seems to view religion as something seperate to people, which is a cause of war unto itself. wheras i was trying to say that religion was created by people, and is used by them as an excuse for war.

There are poor excuses and there are good excuses. Now I won’t be the one to judge whether or not religion is a good or bad excuse for war, but an excuse nonetheless. War is only relevant for the massive devastation that it brings. Religion has disrupted the world in many aspects for numerous years that provide sufficient reason to have it erased permanently. Religious doctrines contradict certain others. If you are going to create a fundamental system whereby people can live their lives and be spiritually comfortable, then it needs to have consistent principles and not find a rival that prescribes people to live under a certain form of conduct that is clearly in conflict with the other doctrine.

…nevermind…