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Well your cold and selfish for not caring about someone just because you think you are better than them when your not. =/

sum i agree
you have your reasons. but half the things you said were cold.

This is like the 20th time I have seen this type of post.

Pepsi wrote:
I never said I thought I was better than them.

Well you said you would sympathise but they have ordinary problems so you dont, so your kind of denying they matter a bit i meant.

littlenick wrote:
This is like the 20th time I have seen this type of post.

yea, i agree. still its a little different every time.

people like this have emotional problems… the problems that you think are trival are not to them because they cant handle it. not everyone is built the same… be being a person who has tried to commit suicide once, i take extreme offense to this…

wanna see what i went through

http://cadys-story.webs.com/

most people thought i had life so well… yea… theres things you dont see.

think about other peoples feelings before you post something like this… on a HELP site…

Yeah, maybe they are kind of selfish, but they don’t think “I’m going to kill myself and be selfish,” they think, “I’m so depressed. I can’t do anything right. I can’t bare to live anymore.”

Just because you think some things are small and everyday things, to some people they’re huge and even if they just have something small happen, it could mean a lot more to them.

I used to think that years ago, and after a friend took his life. But after I tried and two or three people I knew tried, I started seeing it differently.

In some ways it is selfish, but it makes them feel better. I think that sometimes, people don’t care, I think humans are born selfish anyways.

Different people react differently to problems. Some become cruel and sadistic and violent. Some get depressed and suicidal. Some go numb inside and get psychologically damaged as well as emotionally and become bitter. Some try to ignore it. You get the idea.

oh and I can be suicidal time to time so I know what im talking about. Sorry if I sounded harsh before.

And so it begins…….

“Well, the ones who ‘attempt’ suicide on more than one occasion. You know? By cutting what have you, it’s almost as if they are so desperate for attention, to feel important.”
lets go with were happy that they fell through. and so what i have tried more then once. and im happy that it didnt happen.
a lot of the people on hear have tried of wanted to, so your not going to get a lot of love about that.

A discussion, let it begin. I don’t mind. I like to watch. I will sit back and enjoy your conversation! Don’t mind me!

well… maybe you should let your thoughts out in a journal or something where its not going to offend a whole wack of people… even if you dont intend for it to.

Pepsi wrote:
No, no I understand what your guys are saying. I mean my post was harsh so no point in calling the kettle black.
It’s true everybody is different. I just am one of those people that finds it hard to understand where people who want to commit suicide are coming from. I mean to me the concept just doesn’t make sense, I can’t comprehend it. And my life hasn’t exactly been smooth sailing either but I have never once thought about killing myself, you know? So my opinions are going to be bias. I apologise if I offend anyone. Just letting my thoughts out.

littlenick wrote:
And so it begins…….

What begins? A discussion? Lord help us all…

To be honest even the suicidal dont understand it. The point is to kill pain and problems. Some people really couuld have just solved thier problems instead so i feel bad for people who try and do that a little more because they werent thinking right. There is also people who just have problems that seem unsolvable and they dont want things any other way so they kind of want to end thier life to stay out of a life they didnt want to be that way. Probably every single person suicidal would rather have things the way they want rather than kill themselves.

yea, but with the way you asked that question you run the risk of making those people feel worse… i mean its a really dumb site to post all of that on.

i mean… where people come for help about that kind of stuff… seems to me like a dumb idea to post a “rant” that obviously offends ALOT of people

you are aloud to rant about what you want, there is nothing wrong with that. people are just going to have different opinions.

Pepsi wrote:
Yeah I can understand, if the pain is unbearable. I guess some people are more predisposed to self harm/suicide than others? Have you ever attempted suicide or know somebody who has?

I havent attempted to commit suicide… so far since i still have some hope

I havent known anyone closely who did it thankfully. Well one girl i talk to did it multiple times and is alive still. She sometimes gets suicidal time to time though still.

yes free speach. all for that.

does not mean you cant have some consideration for others.

By the way, I don’t think this is “dumb” site as you so eloquently put it, anon. :)

littlenick wrote:
By the way, I don’t think this is “dumb” site as you so eloquently put it, anon. :)

lol i dont think it is either… but using it the way this poster did is a dumb way to use it lol

no, no one is forcing me, and i did not say i did not like commenting on this post did i?

thats just you assuming again…

Pepsi wrote:
I don’t see how one can fail in taking ones own life. Esepcially if you seriously intend on doing it. That’s why I think that people who ‘attempt’ suicide don’t fully mean it and are just crying out for help/attention. So again I don’t understand how you can fail at killing yourself.

atemption, it happens all the time, failing is a good thing. not worked. like you can try to OD, but not take enough. Your rope brake when your trying to hang yourself. Jumping off of a building and only getting hurt.

I think the poster has a valid point in posting his post. However, most members of the site wait at least a couple of months or even weeks before posting something like that. He has only been a member of the site for what? 4 days? Just give him/her a break. They don’t know any better.

By the way, Pepsi, Welcome to help.com!!!!:) :) :)

littlenick, i realy respect your comments… for the most part lol. but this user should not be able to hide behind the fact that they are a new user…

its just common sense that a site named HELP.COM would have people on it that have or are thinking about suicide, or people who know people who have committed or attempted suicide, and them comming on here and bashing them making them look like worthless people… well that does not sit with me… no matter how new the account.

annon, i dont think the user ment any harm, dont let it get you worked up

WeLcOmE To HeLp.CoM!!

sum wrote:
Well your cold and selfish for not caring about someone just because you think you are better than them when your not. =/

meg_ryan wrote:
sum i agree
you have your reasons. but half the things you said were cold.

Pepsi wrote:

littlenick wrote:
This is like the 20th time I have seen this type of post.

Well that’s bound to happen really, I’m new to the site.

sum wrote:

Pepsi wrote:
I never said I thought I was better than them.

Well you said you would sympathise but they have ordinary problems so you dont, so your kind of denying they matter a bit i meant.

Hm I see what you mean.. well I don’t think to myself ‘I am better than these people’, I guess if anything I just wish I could make them see that there are worse things in life and that nothing is worth taking your own life over.

well its not just me that felt this way…

He could be acting manipulative or maybe he’s serious, I don’t know. Before you label him as a attention seeker, you should look into why he’s so depressed.

Pepsi wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
[quote meg_ryan]atemption, it happens all the time, failing is a good thing. not worked. like you can try to OD, but not take enough. Your rope brake when your trying to hang yourself. Jumping off of a building and only getting hurt.

True, but I mean if it were me I would make sure I jumped off a 20 story building, you know.

yea, but no one really wants to die, they just want to get away. deep down they dont at least.

as a cutter and someone who has been depressed and suicidal for some time now,i can honestly say that nothing i have done to myself has ever been for attention.to say that anyone who is suicidal and/or a self harmer is an attention seeker is narrow minded

SpazzySpizzy wrote:
as a cutter and someone who has been depressed and suicidal for some time now,i can honestly say that nothing i have done to myself has ever been for attention.to say that anyone who is suicidal and/or a self harmer is an attention seeker is narrow minded

i love your answer spazzy, well put :)

Pepsi, I did not say you had to be an established member, I only said you still don’t know your way around and felt the need to post what you posted. So, your post is valid for that reason.

Why thank you meg.

Pepsi wrote:
Anon, I’ll say it again. If you don’t like what I am saying either engage in a discussion with me about it or don’t bother coming onto the post. Comprende?

rockasmil wrote:
He could be acting manipulative or maybe he’s serious, I don’t know. Before you label him as a attention seeker, you should look into why he’s so depressed.

If the he you are referring to is my boyfriend, I have tried looking into why he is depressed. I have asked him about his past, what he was thinking when he attempted, and he can’t explain it to me. He says he just sometimes feels that life is meaningless. Only he knows I suppose.

meg_ryanyea, but no one really wants to die, they just want to get away. deep down they dont at least.

True, but I thought that the meaning of suicide was you know, killing oneself. I guess I will never understand attemptive suicide.

[quote SpazzySpizzy wrote:
as a cutter and someone who has been depressed and suicidal for some time now,i can honestly say that nothing i have done to myself has ever been for attention.to say that anyone who is suicidal and/or a self harmer is an attention seeker is narrow minded

So what do you get out of cutting yourself? In what ways have you attempted suicide? Explain it to me and I’ll be one step closer to open mindedness.[/quote]

and for your information i am engaging in a discussion with you and everyone on this board. you just dont like that because you know i have a point and you were extremely harsh with your words.

hey spazzy if you have a smile on your face then keep it there, and if not then *hugs you* and tickles you to get you to smile.

and since you are being incredibly harsh to people who have problems… i have no compassion for saying this… i feel sorry for your boyfriend.

he has no support from you on the topic, and you will one day see how your views on this topic are EXTREMLY narrow minded and just plain disrespectful.

Pepsi wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
and since you are being incredibly harsh to people who have problems… i have no compassion for saying this… i feel sorry for your boyfriend.

he has no support from you on the topic, and you will one day see how your views on this topic are EXTREMLY narrow minded and just plain disrespectful.

No, you have not engaged in a discussion about the topic. You have merely pointed out the fact that my post is stupid and I should not have posted something like this on this site because it will offend people. You may think I am being incredibly harsh, but it is my opinion and I am open to someone encouraging me to change my opinion or to see the other side. Maybe I should have made the fact that I wanted a discussion more clear in my original post. So, enough of the drudgery, I apologise again if I offend you but please, either talk to me about it/your opinions or gtfo.

i am talking to you about my OPPINIONS about this post… D’er!

you want to be rude to me ill be rude back.

you to are going on about weird things,

may i help you understand anything?

Quote from Pepsi: “Anon, I’ll say it again. If you don’t like what I am saying either engage in a discussion with me about it or don’t bother coming onto the post. Comprende?”

No need to get angry. We all have different views….however…..

Anonymous wrote:
and since you are being incredibly harsh to people who have problems… i have no compassion for saying this… i feel sorry for your boyfriend.

he has no support from you on the topic, and you will one day see how your views on this topic are EXTREMLY narrow minded and just plain disrespectful.

….people start losing their cool!

“Can’t we all just get along”

Rodney King, April 1992 Riots. L.A., California, USA.

:)

no, i have expressed my opinion on the topic and you were just to ignorent to realize it. my opinion is people refuse to ask for help till they are about to do it, because people like you make them feel like they are worthless, and are allattention seekers, like someone mentioned before, nobody wants to die, but when they think about what people like you say about them… they dont ask for help till its too late.

there happy? clear enough for ya?

:)

thanks :)

:) :)

Walking without seeing,
Walking without breathing,
Walking without believing,
You should just give up,
Its not worth it,
You are a daze,
Walking without seeing,
Walking without breathing,
Walking without believing,
The air is cold,
You can barley breath,
The red is on your arm,
As you can see,
It wasn’t that deep,
But it was on the river or stream,
It is everywhere now,
Gasping for breath,
How could you of done that,
Tears in your eyes,
Fighting or that last breath,
Cold air, river of red,
And a body on the floor,
DEAD
——————————-
pills, one by one,
swallowing them all,
dizzy falling over,
head spinning,
im on the ground,
what was it that i jus did,
stumbling over yourself,
most find help,
mom…mom…mo…
ugh..i am..i you see…
hunny what did you do,
bye the time you told her she was pissed,
she walked away,
not caring about me,
so dizzy,
most take a nap…
maybe i wont wake up,
that was the point wasn it,
not to have to see another day,
this life that stands before me,
to hear the yelling,
and have to feel the pain,
and remember all those times when you went to sleep in tears,
because she got pissed..and took it out on you,
or when he hurt you so,
and you didnt know what to do,
wasnt that the point,
well sadly you are hear,
to live another day,
and cry another tear,
and to feel the pain.
———————————-
everyone has a diffrent reason. you shouldnt feel like you should ost something like this, just you have to be prepared for all the reasons.

ekk that was long, im sorry.

nobodys saying leave the site, just dont post unless you are trying to help someone, or are in need of help yourself.

you want to discuss topics like this fine, just dont go being so narrow minded.

in fact i *slightly* respect you for posting this and standing up for yourself, even though i 100% STRONGLY dissagree with your posts. and am slightly offended still but im going to assume that those appologies were scencere, and the insults that you said towards me, were just in the spur of the moment as were mine.

Anonymous wrote:
in fact i *slightly* respect you for posting this and standing up for yourself, even though i 100% STRONGLY dissagree with your posts. and am slightly offended still but im going to assume that those appologies were scencere, and the insults that you said towards me, were just in the spur of the moment as were mine.

see dats how you should look at it, good for you

Pepsi its not worth getting mad over..trust me. just let it be, you did nothing wrong and you no that, so there shouldnt be anything that big to get mad over..well i think.

well i tried to be polite, some people i guess just are too stubborn. good luck offending many others. hopefully one day we will meet under better terms.

(i did try to be nice to you, but i guess thats just not what you want)

you dont have to be rude about it anon

hey not all anons are bad.
lol okay, its okay, we all get that way.
so do you still want to talk about this, i wont get rude, and if i do then i am sorry. i dont want to be. i have no right to be.

i tried being polite about it did i not?

im not being the rude one here, i only react to the reactant… i.e the person who spoke to me rudely.

but anyways, im not wasting time on this anymore, some people are just born ignorent, and rude, and well one day they will be touched by this problem… and then they will realize…

i really hope they arent but its a sad fact that ALMOST everyone is at some point in their life, by a loved one or even themselves… even if they dont think they will ever do that or try to.

so when that day comes… dont come crying to me. if i see a post like that from you i wil laugh.

im sorry, but if your going to make people feel like crap because you have too big of an ego, and think your right, and refuse to admit your wrong… then you are no better then the people who YOU think are whinny attention seekers, and who are a waste of time.

in fact you are the waste of time here… are you suicidal? your seeking attention here… so i guess your suicidal… see your logic does not make much sense does it?

and my point is also proven :)

so thanks :)

your too busy trying to sound smart that you cant open your own eyes and see what exactly you posted…

but whatever, my point is proven and ALOT of other people on this post agreed you were incredibly harsh… and since you dont like my harshness… that kinda makes you a hypocrit…

but whatever. i think the vote of this board proves my point, and your stubborn and have such a thick skull that it wont get through to you anyways.

so good luck.