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yeah there are. Many would argue that these reasons do not justify what the other countries are doing to them - and others would disagree.

Its a very big debate though

Yes. It’s called organized religion. No single religion says to embrace another for the people they are. Rather most religions teach that there can only be one religion that is true/fact this creating bias and eventually conflict.

People have hated the Jews since the beginning. It’s hard to really pinpoint WHAT it was, or WHY, but I know that a lot of it is jealousy that many Jews had made for themselves very good lifestyles in terms of money…and apparently it’s been that way since the beginning.

But, that really doesn’t justify the hatred. There are plenty of poor Jews, just as there are plenty of poor people in general.

well…if u believe in the church
the jews killed the mesiah (jesus)

all the ones who persecute the jews, hitler for example, was very religious
he believed in christianity

The thing about Jews is, they’re not exactly saying they’re MORE SPECIAL or BETTER than everyone else by saying they’re “chosen”—oh and if they do, then you’re definitely talking to the wrong people—but just “chosen,” I think, in the sense that even if they mess up a lot and screw things over all the time (like they definitely have), God is still giving them chances and is not going to destroy them, like completely wipe out the Jews…as you can tell, they’re still around.

But other people sometimes do get angry that the Jews seem to say that they are “special” or that because they are “chosen” that they are better than everyone else. Jews are humans, just like everyone else. There will be those who are better than some people and there will be those who are average and there will be those who are no better than scumbags.

So…yeah. that’s my take on it.

Hitler wasn’t religious at all.

And yes, that’s another thing…people blame the Jews for killing Jesus, which obviously causes a lot of conflict…although nowadays there seems to be less tension between the Christians and the Jews…now it’s the radical Muslims and the Jews.

I think it all began with the First Crusade. There was an onset of ant-semitism in which French and German peasants ravaged Jewish communities. The Jews were thought to be responsible for the cruxifixion and they were more visibly convenient for the peasants to attack rather than the distant Muslims. Jews were known to be associated with misery and marginality. Of course, Nazis came on the scene and were able to draw upon the legacy of Christian anti-Judaism.

It goes muchhh farther back than the First Crusade.

Remember the Romans? The Babylonians? Yeah…

i think it all has to do with the entire idea that people are diferent and they cant handle seeing anyone who isntlie them…its not only the jews, but every group has at one point in history been persecuted

Well,
How do you puyt it… everyone has some negative feelings about people who are different…
Forget religion, black s have problems with whites and vice versa…
Jews are disgusted by muslims and christians hate msulims as well… The muslims kinda view everyone else as infidels…
The thing is its human nature to not like what is different.
But, in the case of the jews it seems to be more deep rooted…
Even in biblical times jews were normally looked down upon and actually were the cause for quite a bit of trouble. In present days the problems between Palestine and Israil leads to lots of hatred between the two peoples.
To tell you the truth I guess everyone who is different from other people is at times disliked by the others and that dosent matter if you are a jew or not.
The thing with the Jewish problem is it is overtly publisized compared to the other problems…

blue_ice24 wrote:
It goes muchhh farther back than the First Crusade.

Remember the Romans? The Babylonians? Yeah…

I remember the First Crusade to be the focal point of Jewish hatred. But it would be great if you could tell us more about the things you mentioned.

because theyve been at it since the dawn of time.

mills wrote:

blue_ice24 wrote:
It goes muchhh farther back than the First Crusade.

Remember the Romans? The Babylonians? Yeah…

I remember the First Crusade to be the focal point of Jewish hatred. But it would be great if you could tell us more about the things you mentioned.

I honestly don’t know a whole lot…I’ve studied it extensively but at a certain point it kind of just mixes in as one big blob, if you know what I mean…

But I’ll tell you what I remember. As far back as I remember, in terms of MAJOR problems, first the Egyptians gave the Jews issues…with the whole enslavement thing, remember? I don’t really know exact dates, but probably the general time period would be in the 2000s-500s BCE? Not quite sure, sorry, that’s a large time period I know…

Then the Greeks gave the Jews problems, I think that was mostly in the land of Israel…when they ruled there, and such. And then the Romans, when they ruled over that vast territory, I know that especially in Jerusalem…like they destroyed one of the temples, I can’t remember if it was the first or the second temple, probably the first but yeah…

There were some rulers who treated them fine but oftentimes there would be riots and raids and such on Jewish homes, villages, general areas, etc. For some reason there would be so many rulers who were just extremely against the Jews…

then as we go through times there is general hatred for Jews, from all areas, but after the fall of the Western Roman Empire in 476 CE (haha yup I remember that date…oy) it was chaotic anyway so that’s to be expected I suppose…

yeah sorry that was really bad. I need to refresh my memory on this stuff…

You forgot about the babylonians, they literally destroyed Isrial and took most of the jews as captives, but if I remember the Jews were the cause of the trouble to begin with in that situation.

Problem is, if you think about it, what did the Jews do to deserve that?
Yeah I know the Babylonians came in somewhere but I couldn’t remember where…I don’t think they did anything major to “deserve” that…

nobody deserves to have their people persecuted…not all of thme are the same…no one os the same

loserlizzy93 wrote:
nobody deserves to have their people persecuted…not all of thme are the same…no one os the same

I agree…
Now in present times that exactly what the Jews are doing to the palestinians…

Jews are not persecuting all Palestinians…Just like all Muslims are not persecuting Jews…

The Jews are going after the terrorist groups that are causing all this trouble, like Hamas and Hezbollah and I think Fatah or something like that, although I know for sure that Hamas has been using innocent Palestinian civilians as human shields from the Israelis. The Israelis are trying to get to the TERRORISTS not all palestinians…there are tons of Palestinians and Jews who are friends and just want all these problems to stop.

I agree its not all jews and not all muslims as well as not all palestinians…
But the fact is as peole we tend to group people and blame what one or a small group in one does to signify the whole…
In the same case the hatred of jews by some is potrayed to be a genral hatered of jews over here…

I know that, it’s true.

I was just trying to make you see that your comment about the Jews persecuting the Palestinians as a whole is wrong…very wrong, indeed…there are obviously exceptions, I know that some Jews are very resentful to Palestinians as a whole and some Palestinians are very resentful to Jews as a whole…but it really depends on the individual person.

Thats exactly what I was trying to point out that we are mainly generalising the whole thing…
Not everyone hates jews!

I don’t think anyone was saying that everyone hates Jews…
the question was, why DO some people? And why does it sometimes seem to be nations at large or peoples at large that hates other people?

Hmmm well the thing is I guess we’ll never really understand that…the Jews just get a lot of publicity…both just general stuff about them and then anti-semitic propaganda…

LOL!
I guess there is much less anti-semetic propoganda out there than anti-islamic propoganda at the moment…

No, there’s still a very large amount of anti-semitic propaganda…I don’t know how much as compared to anti-islamic propaganda but I’d say as of now that people are a lot more friendly towards the Muslims, anti-Islamic propaganda seems to be limited only to certain circles.

And there is more anti-semitic propaganda than you realize…just read between the lines of all the major newspapers out there…

To tell you the truth I have heard nothing in the news about any problems with Israil or jews, but constantly hear about problems with Iran, Iraq, Afghanisthan, Saudi, Shias, Sunnis and so on…
So there is no way I can agree wit you on that…
And there is barely any reading in-between the lines over here

Well then again, it depends where you are…
do you live in the United States? A lot of the major newspapers like to talk about all the horrible things Jews have done/are doing

Yup I do!
and I havent heard much about it…
The only thing I hear right no wabout Israil is the planning of surgical strikes against Iranian nuclear facilities which the US is endorsing i.e. supporting Isrial not Iran

In reference to statements made hate towards Jews are linked to the death of Jesus Christ, I don’t see anywhere in the Bible that states that. I believe the Christian bible states the Romans killed Jesus, not Jews. Why not persecute Romans since they were the killers of Christ? I cannot remember the actual dates but I believe the Vacation has exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus.

Hmm I actually didn’t hear that…haven’t been checking the news much lately so I guess I wouldn’t have.

Well, anyhow, wondered if we helped the original poster at all…I’m off, hope I helped!

The Vacation?
You mean the Vatican?

And the original Romans are long dead, hun…

and that’s just one of many reasons to throw in the bag anyway, as to why some people hate Jews.

My suggestion to the original poster, if you want to learn more about hatred towards the Jews, simply read history books on them, probably not your standard school textbook but go to your library and try and find some good, hard facts just about the history of the jews and such.

Actually, try A History of the Jews by Paul Johnson. That will probably give you a good history of them and all the problems.

the large noses perhaps?

people have always looked for a scapegoat, and someone to hate. The Jewish race has always been an easy target. thats all. people need something to vent their misguided anger at, and there they are. without a land, without the means to protect themselves. easy peasy.

they dont have *a*land of their own do they. i suppose the whole Palestine /Israel debate could come in there, but thats not what im on about.
of course they live in many countries, but the home of catholics is the vatican, etc etc is what i mean.

im not talking about them.
im talking about a religion far older than any christian religion where traditionally each race/religion had a land of their own.

“Of all the extreme fanaticism which plays havoc in man’s nature, there is not one as irrational as anti-Semitism. … If the Jews are rich [these fanatics] are victims of theft. If they are poor, they are victims of ridicule. If they take sides in a war, it is because they wish to take advantage from the spilling of non-Jewish blood. If they espouse peace, it is because they are scared by their natures or traitors. If the Jew dwells in a foreign land he is persecuted and expelled. If he wishes to return to his own land, he is prevented from doing so.” - Lloyd George stated in 1923

well, anyone who knows anything about it knows that the majority of the Middle East and Africas problems stem from british colonisation and the quest for oil. As much as they like to believe theyre helping “modernise” and improve Middle Eastern relations, we all know its just a bandaid for what they created.

R.A.M wrote:

loserlizzy93 wrote:
nobody deserves to have their people persecuted…not all of thme are the same…no one os the same

I agree…
Now in present times that exactly what the Jews are doing to the palestinians…

because god KNOWS those palestinians arent persecuting the jews anymore.

Bacon pwns once again