death help: i wonder if there is an ‘afterlife’ ? - Help.com

I think I get what you are saying, I think anyway.
“If I live or if I die, what’s the difference?”

I can understand kind of.
What difference will it make for YOU if you are gone. I have thought about that for me.

Cicimbide wrote:
Well I’ll te you what happens, you either go to heavan, hell, or purgatory for a while then heavan depending on how you lived life, as a wicked person (or sinner), kind caring and loving, or bad but not bad enough to go to hell. Suicide is garrunteed to send you down the garbage Shute.

Hi Cici, can you give reference for that assumption. thanks

You have to decide what is important to you Moo.

dunno but if there is i hope its the same as this one (at least id know what was going to happen so i could change any mistakes and make a difference)

Moo. wrote:

Cicimbide wrote:

Shakeybritches wrote:
You have to decide what is important to you Moo.

You aren’t actually sayin moo has a choice whether to commit suicide or not are you?

I think what she’s trying to say is…’are there special things in your life that mean a lot to you’- and that if you DO kill yourself, are you are throwing them away?

What I am trying to say is this: We all have choices to do whatever we desire to do. Suicide is never the answer for anything, but I think I know where Moo may be coming from. Sometimss you may feel that it is equally as well to not be alive. I think most people feel that way from one time to another. But the daily sunrise is a perfect example that no matter what comes our way in this life, things do get better. Night may come so that the sun may rise again.
And some people DO find solace in looking for death, but there reasons for this. I am not condoning suicide, I am merely letting Moo know that I think I understand somewhat of how she may be feeling. :)

Well, from reading about 50% of these replies. From what I pick up is that you are wondering if suicide is a release from the pains of daily life, or if there is a reason to stick around. I feel like you have already heard the basic, friends and family deal before. So basically, the way I feel is that if there is or is not an afterlife, how will it be perfect without having the greatest moments in life to compare to? What will an eternity in the perfect place be without having the lows in life to say, man things are better. Corny, cheesy, I know. But, that is sort of how I think you want to hear. Where I believe there is nothing after life, adding another appeal for me. No more thoughts, no more wondering, I did what I could do, not for somebody that we don’t know exists, but because I did what I did, and now I wouldn’t have to worry about what I could do, or what I can do, because I did it. If that makes sense at all.

Why is it that so many ppl are afraid to talk about suicide?
Not here only, but in general.

Because the thought of somebody disappearing from their life frightens them, while they don’t realize it. My belief anyways. And Moo, that is sort of what I am saying. I’m saying that if you are down, then smaller things can bring you up more, where biggest falls won’t pull you down as far. So even if things never truly get as good or better than they once were, after a while you will feel better anyways.

Have a good one MOO.

Obviously I’m convinced that there is no afterlife.

New American Atheist wrote:
Obviously I’m convinced that there is no afterlife.

Do all atheists believe there is no afterlife?

of course there is an afterlife. ask anyone who hasnt died, but has noticed that someone they knew is now dead. thats pretty much everyone.
some believe the afterlife is simply your corpse decaying. some believe their consciousness or soul continues on.

either way, death and the afterlife arent things that have anyhting to do with life, past it being the end of life.
so whats the point in harassing yourself about it? ITS GOING TO HAPPEN.
you are going to get your answer to this question in the future.
some religions believe that may not be true, but history suggests otherwise.

New American Atheist wrote:
Obviously I’m convinced that there is no afterlife.

athiests try to come off as very logical people. . . which begs the age-old question “how do you know”. the answer is you do not. if a lack of evidence supporting your theory is the only support that you have for your theory then your theory is . . . a lot of things.
one of those things is “less interesting than any other religion”.

nope, no afterlife. life ends, game over, no restarts or continues. not even an eternal blank nothing to think in.

So don’t screw it up! Live I say. LIIVVVE!!!!

Well, from what I see, no one has a perfect truthful awnser. There’s only one way to know for sure and the problem with it is you can’t tell everyone what’s there. What matters is the life we have today. For better or worse now is what matters the most and we should concentrate more of the life we have now as we know we have that. If we blow it all just thinking of what will happen when we loose our lives then we would had wasted all that we could had done here.

Afterlife or not, why shouldn’t you suffer the ups and downs of life with the rest of us, why do you get to decide you go there early and without really suffering the stress of life, why cause your parents a hell of a lot more suffering than they need to feel, just get on with it like the rest of us and then when your time has come you get to find out if it was all worth it

Who does your life belong to?

Victoria Sponge wrote:
Afterlife or not, why shouldn’t you suffer the ups and downs of life with the rest of us, why do you get to decide you go there early and without really suffering the stress of life, why cause your parents a hell of a lot more suffering than they need to feel, just get on with it like the rest of us and then when your time has come you get to find out if it was all worth it

Shakeybritches wrote:
Who does your life belong to?

Victoria Sponge wrote:
Afterlife or not, why shouldn’t you suffer the ups and downs of life with the rest of us, why do you get to decide you go there early and without really suffering the stress of life, why cause your parents a hell of a lot more suffering than they need to feel, just get on with it like the rest of us and then when your time has come you get to find out if it was all worth it

Me but I realise that we all have ups and downs and that we should just get on with it and share our experiences with others to help them get through life, not just selfishly take your own life without a thought to anyone else, but to each their own I guess

How do I know? Death is the near complete end of electrical activity in the brain (brain death). As electrical activity in the brain decreases, so does the existence of the person. When you go to sleep, you don’t remember, don’t feel, don’t have a personality… essentially don’t exist. However, the current is restored in the morning and you come back into existence. Same as in coma all though sometimes you won’t wake up. When your brain gets damaged that means that electricity is no longer flowing through that part making it work. That portion of existence is destroyed. There are people who have lost their memory, their ability memorize, their personality, their ability to sense. Anybody who wasn’t afraid of death could accept the obvious. That once the power goes out, so does the person.

Shakeybritches wrote:

New American Atheist wrote:
Obviously I’m convinced that there is no afterlife.

Do all atheists believe there is no afterlife?

No, unfortunately.

Victoria Sponge wrote:

Shakeybritches wrote:
Who does your life belong to?

Victoria Sponge wrote:
Afterlife or not, why shouldn’t you suffer the ups and downs of life with the rest of us, why do you get to decide you go there early and without really suffering the stress of life, why cause your parents a hell of a lot more suffering than they need to feel, just get on with it like the rest of us and then when your time has come you get to find out if it was all worth it

Me but I realise that we all have ups and downs and that we should just get on with it and share our experiences with others to help them get through life, not just selfishly take your own life without a thought to anyone else, but to each their own I guess

I DO understand where you are coming from, and I agree. But there are times when some people are in such mental anguish that they just want “out” of the pain. Suicide is the wrong way to go, but just having someone to talk to can really make all the difference.

Well yeah I get that sometimes because I am actually suicidal ‘at times’ but really if you die or whenever you die theres always heaven if your christian and yes that would be the place ‘where your soul goes’. Nothing else goes with you, afterlife is what like egyptians believed in thats why they had the pyramids filled with stuff, but its all still here? 3000 years later, I dont think theres any afterlife for them.

And if you die in a coffin you can still go dig it up 20 years later just bones are going to be there and in the catholic faith your soul goes.

Were almost like God’s flowers - we live and we die, then we come back to life again.

So its like we live then we die just like a flower, then later on we will wake up in heaven just like it would be spring.

Shakeybritches wrote:

Victoria Sponge wrote:

Shakeybritches wrote:
Who does your life belong to?

Victoria Sponge wrote:
Afterlife or not, why shouldn’t you suffer the ups and downs of life with the rest of us, why do you get to decide you go there early and without really suffering the stress of life, why cause your parents a hell of a lot more suffering than they need to feel, just get on with it like the rest of us and then when your time has come you get to find out if it was all worth it

Me but I realise that we all have ups and downs and that we should just get on with it and share our experiences with others to help them get through life, not just selfishly take your own life without a thought to anyone else, but to each their own I guess

I agree, my little brother tried to comnmit suicide and it was the worst day of my life to know he was that unhappy, I was also really angry with him, but a lot of the replys seemed to be encouraging it and that concered me a little
I DO understand where you are coming from, and I agree. But there are times when some people are in such mental anguish that they just want “out” of the pain. Suicide is the wrong way to go, but just having someone to talk to can really make all the difference.

New American Atheist wrote:
How do I know? Death is the near complete end of electrical activity in the brain (brain death). As electrical activity in the brain decreases, so does the existence of the person. When you go to sleep, you don’t remember, don’t feel, don’t have a personality… essentially don’t exist. However, the current is restored in the morning and you come back into existence. Same as in coma all though sometimes you won’t wake up. When your brain gets damaged that means that electricity is no longer flowing through that part making it work. That portion of existence is destroyed. There are people who have lost their memory, their ability memorize, their personality, their ability to sense. Anybody who wasn’t afraid of death could accept the obvious. That once the power goes out, so does the person.

so by that rationale, when my computer breaks and is gone, i cease to exist. good thinking pal.

Fatso wrote:

New American Atheist wrote:
How do I know? Death is the near complete end of electrical activity in the brain (brain death). As electrical activity in the brain decreases, so does the existence of the person. When you go to sleep, you don’t remember, don’t feel, don’t have a personality… essentially don’t exist. However, the current is restored in the morning and you come back into existence. Same as in coma all though sometimes you won’t wake up. When your brain gets damaged that means that electricity is no longer flowing through that part making it work. That portion of existence is destroyed. There are people who have lost their memory, their ability memorize, their personality, their ability to sense. Anybody who wasn’t afraid of death could accept the obvious. That once the power goes out, so does the person.

so by that rationale, when my computer breaks and is gone, i cease to exist. good thinking pal.

why would that make sense Fatso. your silly. apply electrodes directly to temples and brace for high voltage.