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I have a friend who I love more than anything.

I see him as a brother, as a best friend, as pretty much everything. I’d trust him with my life. Lately, I have been getting more and more upset because I just have had the feeling it’s one sided. Yeah, we meet up loads, and we talk, and so on. But I am always the one who suggests meeting up. And he broke up with his girlfriend a month or two ago, and had a heart to heart about it with my brother of all people, and never told me. It’s just been so akward for me cus I supposedly ‘don’t know’ so have had to act like they are still together. I felt that if I was in any way a friend, he’d have mentioned it to me, maybe asked for advice. At least said it, even if it was a week or two after.

I got to the point where I was getting upset by the unbalance. So I spoke to him tonight and said I just wanted to not hang out for the next few days, or talk. I just wanted space. I ended up being honest and saying I just cared about him and the friendship too much and I felt he didn’t, and that upset me, and I was just getting more and more upset which was really stupid, so I wanted time to stop being upset and caring so much. The thing is, I said this so many times (as it took him a while to understand), yet not once did he say ‘no, of course I care’ or ‘no, you are a good friend to me’. So now I am even more upset. Yet I did this so that I’d stop caring so much. I am just confused. And feel maybe I should have said nothing. Sigh. I am just confused.

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hainsay offline Verified User (3 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (25 minutes after post)

If you said to him that you needed space he may have thought you meant you didn’t like hanging out with him anymore. He could simply have been confused.

He could feel that hanging around you makes him unavailable.
He could like you.
He may feel that your friendship isn’t what he wants anymore.

It could be none of these. Ask him how he is doing, bring up the break up or ask how he and whoever are going now. Don’t push him away, us guys don’t usually understand

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Cecilia offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (33 minutes after post)

I know. I don’t think he understands at all. I just asked him if he did, and said I didnt want him to think I was annoyed with him, or that I didn’t want to spend time with him. His response was ‘Yes. I just need _________ .’ So it seemed all he was concerned about was getting something he left at my house. And that upsets me. And I am tempted to say that, but I know I will just sound like a whiny annoying b_it_ch if I do, so I am gonna shut up!

I just wish guys could be more understanding. I wish that he’d turn around and say ‘you are such a good friend to me, and I don’t want to not talk or not meet up, I’d miss hanging out with you. And anyway, what you said is not true, I care just as much as you.’

I guess it’s asking too much.

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Cecilia offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (37 minutes after post)

nah, he would NEVER think that. We have been friends for way too long. He is literally basically a brother. The thought of anything like that is just wrong. He has become a part of my family.

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Ballinteer, 07, IE | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (48 minutes after post)

The replies above said it all, the only thing I’ll add, and I don’t say this to be mean, is…

It seems what’s annoying you is that he won’t reciprocate your feelings towards him, but you seem to be ignoring the possibility that the reason his actions have not shown care for you is because he doesn’t care.

You can’t expect someone to treat you as good as you treat them just because you treat them well. Yes it’s frustrating, but that’s just how it is, not gender specific either.

Cecilia wrote:
I just wish guys could be more understanding.

What you meant to say is “I just wish HE could be more understanding.”

I think it’s best you distance yourself from this guy, mainly emotionally, find someone else to treat as well as you do him, someone who’ll reciprocate it because they care for you enough to, someone who deserves it.

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Ballinteer, 07, IE | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (52 minutes after post)

Cecilia wrote:
nah, he would NEVER think that. We have been friends for way too long. He is literally basically a brother. The thought of anything like that is just wrong. He has become a part of my family.

I assumed you did have feelings for him? I mean it seems obvious to me that you do. And I would imagine it’s fairly obvious to him too, sorry, don’t mean to be mean.

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Nyxotic offline Verified User (2 years, 4 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 8 minutes after post)

Why are you so upset that he’s not being understanding. HE just broke up with his girlfriend. That takes time to process. He’s going through his own emotional roller coaster. Now is not the time to start smothering him with your own emotions and demanding more attention from him. He probably needs his own space, especially from women right now because getting close to girls after a breakup often leads to rebound relationships, which aren’t healthy and confuse/hurt him even more.

Just leave the poor guy alone for a while and if he comes around and starts wanting to have whatever friendship you had with him before again, then decide if it’s what you want, too.

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Littleton, CO, US | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 10 minutes after post)

Cecilia wrote:
I wish that he’d turn around and say ‘you are such a good friend to me, and I don’t want to not talk or not meet up, I’d miss hanging out with you. And anyway, what you said is not true, I care just as much as you.’

I guess it’s asking too much.

It might be asking too much… even your unfulfilled wish itself may be the most frustrating aspect. Let me try to clarify a little of what I mean (but feel free to ignore if the peculiar way I do it confuses things more.) Analogous relationship: I love you more than you love me. :) This is true. I’m okay with it. It makes communication difficult because you often miss the fact of my underlying basic pure affection relational-stance toward you. That’s not too frustrating — why would it be?, I’m not asking for anything from you, except very occasionally in small ways. But still, the affection-imbalance exists; for months I only let one person be on my ‘fan’ list — (guess who I was a fan of :) … so maybe by this point in this reply you understand, I like you more than you like me, at least generally, consistently over the months. It’s perfectly obvious to me, and the analogy seems relevant even if the magnitude of emotions and intimacy is much different. So then… why don’t I get upset that you don’t like me as much as I like you? Even times when I secretly was coaxing up support for you but then utterly miscommunicated like I was against your efforts (because the unspoken basic affection was not spoken, perhaps), I didn’t make myself upset about it. I wouldn’t have asked you to care about me as much as I cared about you — not because that wouldn’t be some really cool thing, but because it seems like that’s not quite how things work. Who knows why I’m fond of you? It’s a mystery, not really worth analyzing, minds are so misleading and deceiving anyway — there’s just some natural affection (and if you respond in some way I don’t like here perhaps it’ll completely vanish. Could be?) So who knows why you like the people you like as much as you do?

Hm. Hopefully I’ve communicated something relevant there. The point was supposed to be something about the futility of wishing his feelings were other than what they are, and the possible effectiveness of alternatively altering the shape or form of your relationship — like, I noticed I have an email address for you .. Hey! I could change how we are related in a small way by becoming your penpal! (but not at the moment — see these ideas are all meant for the sake of helping you with your actual plea for help.) Analogously, you could turn to your close guy-friend and say, “I heard you broke up, how about we date and get married and have a family and make an empire and conquer the world and etc etc etc.” — (or your own words, mine might be a bit inappropriate due to somthing or other.)

I hope this helped in some small way, despite my general tendency to miscommunicate with you, and I wouldn’t expect helpfulness in return from you, because I like you, more than you like me.

- someone trying to help

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Cecilia offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (10 hours, 6 minutes after post)

Michael - I am very confused!!! Are you actually talking about me there, or just using it as a hypothetical situation to give me an example?????

And you guys keep saying ‘yeah, you obviously do like him’. And I can completely understand why you would say that. But seriously. People have actually mistaken us for brother and sister. So to be honest, it would just be **** weird if I did. And I always talk to him about guys I like or go out with, and he talks to me about girls he likes or goes out with. You’ll just have to trust me that there is no way he would ever think I liked him, and there is no way that I would ever think he likes me.

And you guys are all right. I guess I am just annoyed that he doesn’t feel or act the same way about me as I do about him. And yes, I am sure he was upset about his girlfriend. And it’s stupid of me to then be upset that he didn’t tell me. I kept telling myself that, but I can’t help it.

I just think, me analysing all this, and getting upset, and having arguments and stuff is pointless. I think that for me, it is just better that I distance myself from him, and realise I have loads of other very good friends which I can count on, and I don’t need to constantly hang out with him and depend on him. He is going off to college (I am just finished college almost) so our lives our going different places anyway.

I ended it by telling him that I just wanted space to cool down and that I felt I cared for our friendship way more than he did, and it was unbalanced, and I was getting pointlessly angry and upset, and that it wasn’t his fault at all. And that’s why I just wanted to start hanging out with other people more and just take a break from our friendship for a bit so that I stop getting so annoyed. I did reassure him that it wasn’t his fault, and it wasn’t that I didn’t want to hang around with him, it was the opposite.

Is that ok to say? I was just trying to be honest. I don’t see what’s wrong with that! I don’t want to add to his emotional stress after having broken up with his girlfriend and I will if I stay around and start having argument after argument with him. I figure it’s better for both him and me this way….

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Ballinteer, 07, IE | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (13 hours, 16 minutes after post)

I think you need to have a sit down and really have a good think, be honest with yourself.

Cecilia wrote:
And you guys keep saying ‘yeah, you obviously do like him’. And I can completely understand why you would say that. But seriously. People have actually mistaken us for brother and sister. So to be honest, it would just be **** weird if I did. And I always talk to him about guys I like or go out with, and he talks to me about girls he likes or goes out with. You’ll just have to trust me that there is no way he would ever think I liked him, and there is no way that I would ever think he likes me.

There’s allot in this paragraph, so I’ll break it down.

“And you guys keep saying ‘yeah, you obviously do like him’. And I can completely understand why you would say that”
So we both agree that it’s obvious you have feelings for him.

“But seriously. People have actually mistaken us for brother and sister.”
What has that to do with your or his feelings? I think you tell yourself these excuses to hide from the truth, and to avoid having to take that leap and pursue a relationship with him. Remember, you are not brother and sister.

” So to be honest, it would just be **** weird if I did.”
Weird for who? And why? You’re not related.

“And I always talk to him about guys I like or go out with, and he talks to me about girls he likes or goes out with. “
That may have been a bad move. Still has nothing to do with your feelings toward eachother though.

“You’ll just have to trust me that there is no way he would ever think I liked him”
The very fact that this post exists, that you were up at 4am writing it, that you’re back again now, and the fact that this whole problem happened in the first place, confirms without a shadow of a doubt in my mind that you definitely like this guy, probably allot.

“and there is no way that I would ever think he likes me.”
Well, herein lies the problem, I think what’s upsetting you, is that he is behaving like he doesn’t care about you, so you’re hurting because your feelings aren’t being reciprocated. But, remember, he’s just out of a relationship, this is a baaaad time for you to be around, maybe he does have feelings for you? Maybe you played a bigger role in his break up then you know, but then maybe he just actually doesn’t care about you… People change.

What you need to do is back off, completely, for a long time. The easiest way to do this is to busy yourself with something else, you’re usually busy anyway so just throw yourself into your music for awhile or something and leave this situation for now.

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Michael Leibman offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
Littleton, CO, US | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (15 hours, 42 minutes after post)

Cecilia wrote:
Michael - I am very confused!!!

Ah, it was just the deranged ramblings of a fevered mind. Like I said, if that’s confusing just ignore it. (sorry, I’m in the middle of some really bad cold/flue thing, but thought I had some interesting perspective.) Sorry to confuse you.

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An Undisclosed Location | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (16 hours, 6 minutes after post)

Thanks Fourthings, for the very detailed advice you gave me. I really do appreciate it more than anything. I still don’t agree that I like him in that way. I am being stubborn about that I guess. I think it is possible to love someone to that extent without wanting to go out with them and have the whole physical side of a boyfriend and girlfriend relationship. It’s like one best friend I once had. I loved him SO much and he asked me out, and I said yes. But over the course of the relationship, I realised yes, I loved him more than anything in the world, but there was no physical attraction at all. In the end, I just broke his heart unintentionally and we never spoke again. I am a great believer that you can love some people just as much as a boyfriend or a girlfriend, but just not want that side of things with them.

Anyway, I guess I should graciously say that there is a chance you are right. Though I REALLY think there isn’t, I know there isn’t. But I guess I should admit there is a chance!!!!

Thanks, you really helped me though. I will stay clear.

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Ballinteer, 07, IE | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (18 hours, 32 minutes after post)

Well, I personally don’t think it’s healthy to love someone platonically that much, because they may not believe the same as you, your point of view is certainly a rare one.

Best of luck anyway, and you’re welcome :]

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An Undisclosed Location | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (1 day, 13 hours after post)

******** Fourthings. ********. I am now just SO confused. I went out last night with a good friend who I never put much effort into keeping up. I figured I’d distract myself by meeting up with different people. But I ended up drinking, and she said ‘why is your friend _______ not here? Let’s invite him.’ Long story short, she invited him, and he asked to speak to me before saying yes, and asked if I wanted him to be there. My heart went out to him because he sounded so sad. And of course I wanted him there, that wasn’t the point of the argument/conversation we had had.
But I spent the whole night and today while I was with him worrying that I did like him but I didn’t know it. And then thinking I couldn’t like him because I didn’t know it and that was stupid. But then thinking about what you said. And going around in circles in my head. You have just confused me even more!!!!!!! I think I really just need to go back to my plan of giving him some space, and me.

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An Undisclosed Location | 3 months, 2 weeks ago (1 day, 14 hours after post)

Cecilia wrote:
******** Fourthings. ********. I am now just SO confused. I went out last night with a good friend who I never put much effort into keeping up. I figured I’d distract myself by meeting up with different people. But I ended up drinking, and she said ‘why is your friend _______ not here? Let’s invite him.’ Long story short, she invited him, and he asked to speak to me before saying yes, and asked if I wanted him to be there. My heart went out to him because he sounded so sad. And of course I wanted him there, that wasn’t the point of the argument/conversation we had had.
But I spent the whole night and today while I was with him worrying that I did like him but I didn’t know it. And then thinking I couldn’t like him because I didn’t know it and that was stupid. But then thinking about what you said. And going around in circles in my head. You have just confused me even more!!!!!!! I think I really just need to go back to my plan of giving him some space, and me.

There is never anything wrong with a little bit of space. Take a few days from talking to him. It might seem hard at first but you definitely need to refrain from any contact with him whatsoever. After a few days, I think you will see things more clearly.

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Ballinteer, 07, IE | 3 months, 1 week ago (2 days, 13 hours after post)

Well yeah of course give him space, like I said earlier a couple times, I dunno why it confuses you so much, if you care enough to worry so much then it’s pretty obvious to me you have feelings for him, how many of your other friends to you worry about and fuss over like that?

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An Undisclosed Location | 3 months, 1 week ago (2 days, 20 hours after post)

I don’t know why it confuses me so much either Fourthings!!! Hah hah, I actually don’t. I am such a girl at times, which is annoying cus I really don’t get girls. I can usually understand guys much better as I mainly hang out with guys.

You know what, you are right though. I do love him. It took you being stubborn to make me admit that. I guess I didn’t WANT to love him, and hence firmly convinced myself that I didn’t, yet still had all the stress that goes with loving someone and not having them love you back. I kept telling myself that I couldn’t love him as he was like a brother, but as you said, he isn’t. Hence there I can love him. *sigh*

Thanks for the advice Fourthings. I forgot how insightful you are

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Ballinteer, 07, IE | 3 months, 1 week ago (3 days, 1 hour after post)

No problem, I’m glad you made some progress with this :]

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