Do the ends justify the means? - Help.com

Every situation has to be judged independently. Let us suppose your objective is to sleep with a certain object of immense desire like oh maybe Audrina Patridge so you slip some Rohypnol in her drink… the ends would be incredible if Johnny Law didn’t make you pay for your means. It’s way more plausible than Hitler bringing in an era of peace, especially if you happen to be named Weinstein or Greenberg or Steinberg etc….

I think such a phrase deserves to be held in the eyes of each individual. If person were to encounter a situation where a good objective is in sight, then in order for it to shine it must be achieved in a way that is not morally or legally acceptable. Hitler had an objective in mind. He believed in persecuting the Jews and wanted the people to support his dictatorship and his mission to liquidate these people who were hated for various reasons in both the present and the past. Despite Hitler’s shortcomings as a compassionate person, he was a qualified General and had the intelligence to execute many strategies which resulted in success. From a personal standpoint, I think his bravery could be mistaken for audacity. Nevertheless it had to be all of his successive conquests, primarily territorial, which convinced Hitler that he was indestructible and because of that he was driven into his own defeat.

those were the worst examples for “the end justifies the means”
if hitler had won the war he could have brought an era of peace?
wtf is wrong with you? you have no idea what you are talking about
go read a history book

yea, America has done so many great things i mean think of slavery, think of all the wars (afghanistan,iraq,vietnam,gulf war) atomic bombings yes, yes wonderful..

what accomplishments? what great things for humanity?
any possible accomplishments can’t even come close to the amount of suffering and the number of deaths caused

there are people in the US that dont have health care! in a developed country!

kid, grow up! live in the reality and not your little highschool world!

You look at any country and there will be countless injustices that they have committed. And whether you jude these accomplishments to justify the inhumanities of such country is only an opinion. And does that mean that you would stop the developments of the USA? I mean the world would not be as it is without it. It has developed life saving medical advances, gm food and however more that will save countless lives in the future.
And I believe that an empire united and brainwashed into complete servitude is less likely to rebel and cause civil wars and fight over land and resources. They will see themselves as working for the good of the German empire. And i don’t just mean Hitlers generation but those afterwards were much of the world speaks the same language, has a similar culture and be given a society that teaches family values and respect. Under these conditions a large portion of the world could act together, united by a common allegiance.
But those weren’t the clearest of examples, i was just trying to give two that committed the same atrocities but I would pick different outcomes. But in many other cases that i would let occur, either because it will ultimately save more people or do more good in the world, I would not allow to happen if I or the people i know were to be scarified. So basically what I’m saying is that from a detached viewpoint, that only makes its judgement based on the overall amount of good and bad and which outweighs the other, I would let certain things happen. However, from a personal level where I empathize with the people i wouldn’t allow it to happen. So which viewpoint is correct?

The only thing I can think of during Hitler’s reign where you could apply that famous phrase would be the holocaust itself. Of course the means were not pretty at all. Matter of fact the entire method was downright vile. As for the end result, I think only Hitler himself and perhaps his henchmen were the only ones to realize the accomplishment. Now realistically, they were not able to eliminate every single Jew living during that period although it had to be the ultimate aim for the Nazis and surely they believed that one less Jew alive was one more step to a barnburner. If you truly did despise something so much and thought no good could ever come from its current living members and all of its offspring, then naturally you would do everything in your power to kill these causes of disgust. Hitler hated Jews and did his best to kill every single one of them. He believed it would achieve something better. But to every one else, it seems to represent just another dark day in history.

mills wrote:
But to every one else, it seems to represent just another dark day in history.

IT SEEMS???

for psychopaths and sociopaths the end ALWAYS justifies the means…

We’ll never know if Hitler felt just after killing all of those Jews now will we?

Unless of course you were privy to his feelings.

why would i care what he felt?

why would u even call it an accomplishment? are you a racist?

I think you are taking my words out of context. I never affirmed his actions to be an accomplishment directly.

the hitler situation u stated would b an example of doing bad for the greater good but at th loss of many innocent people i like to think that the way history played it out the lesser evil was chosen - not so much peace but we all have freedom of speech, human rights(most importantly) to some degree and overall freedom to the extent that your local goverment permits

Let’s just say Hitler’s ideals came to fruition and he created a master race of tall strong healthy blue eyed blondes that were all geniuses… would that be a bad thing? What would the world be like now? Americans had their hand in inadvertantly creating a master race when they bred slaves to be bigger, stronger and faster… only 13% of our population is black but watch a basketball or football game and tell me what you see.
All of our domesticated animals and edible plants are the product of selective breeding to increase positive traits and eliminate negative traits. They have helped feed the world and are vastly superior to what was available just a few hundred years ago. What if this were applied to humans? Would the ends justify the means?

no it does not
black guys are not taller and stronger coz white men bred them lol
people from some regions in africa tend to be really tall
just like most asians are quite short..

domesticated animals ? breeding animals to create different races was eventually a bad idea, especially cats and dogs .. the goal of breeding was to create animals with specific looks mostly, sometimes traits.. turned out these animals arent the most resistent ones when it comes to health..

it’s not only genes that make us who we are
so perfect genes does not equal perfect humans..
+ the problem with humans is not that they are not smart enough but that they lack
compassion -they’ve been killing each other for centuries..

so what are these strong geniuses gonna do ..kill the other geniuses?