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I love my boyfriend so much, but his feelings for me

are not what they used to be -he doesn’t respect me- he’s finished uni now so we’re living quite far apart. He’s never been great at remembering to call me as i’ve never rated very high on his radar - it’s almost impossible to stay in communication with him as i cant afford the phone credit and he’s only ever on facebook at weird times - even then he never bothers messaging me. All he wants to do is put space between us. I know that his agenda is to forget me and hope i forget him but the result is that he’s having a great time living his laddish life, getting into bands + making it happen for himself, whereas i’m constantly thinking about him, wanting him - i wake up + burst into tears, many times during the day i have to leave the room for the same reason. I avoid being around people because i get too upset to hold it together. He has all the power and he’s inadvertently dangling me on a string. All the decisions he’s made about taking a break have been taken over the phone or on a facebook chatbox + we need to meet face to face to discuss something this major. He’s had bad relationships with women in the past who’v really hurt him, so i wish he could undestand how much he’s hurting me atm. When we first got together, all i got from so many of his friends was ’she’s not going to hurt J is she?’ All i ever wanted to do was make him happy to be with me, but having read up on it i now see that cooking/cleaning/doing his laundry/giving him a place to write hid last minute dissertation/stepping in + performing in his final performance when a third of his band dropped out was all lessening me in his eyes, not building up any kind of apreciation or valuing. firstly, all the houswify efforts were stuff he didnt find important anyway (he’s perfectly happy to live on pizza + live with the boxes) and secondly, he was repeatedly getting something for nothing - and who values nothing? Who values someone whos worth nothing? Who loves someone they dont value? This was my first relationship, I didnt know how to have one or how to handle men. Although he never directly asked me to cook his dinner etc. for him, he never on th other hand said to me ‘Look, you dont need to do all this for me, i love you as you are’ so he did begin to take advantage of me more and more, which made me feel frustrated and resentfull that all the skivvying wasn’t ‘buying’ me more apreciation but i also felt so disapointed and let down that he’d changed so much from the loving considerate guy who’d actually made me feel like i was important to him for a little while. I still cant understand why he ever fancied me in the first place + at the beginning of the relationship i was especially terrified of having nothing to offer him, so i tried to do ‘nice things’ for him so he could know how much i cared for him - i see now that they were the wrong things, for the two reasons mentioned and because if i wanted to make an effort, i should have done so in getting in with his friends, learning to play poker + risk like he kept hinting at me to do, that would have given us another shared experience on a level between lovers and strangers, because (especially recently) when we’re not in bed, we’re the latter -i was just so afraid of being made to look stupid and i find it excruciating meeting new people, especially with the added pressure of being Expected to get on with them. We’ve hardly got to know eachother at all in 6 months, which is a real shame, and its making him think we have nothing in common, when we do, we have so much, if he’d only open his mind to identifying what we did wrong in the past and then building up the friendship, Then seeing where we are rather than his idea of a complete break with no communication - which would only ensure that we had exactly the same problems to come back to as we have now, which would mean ther’d be no chance of getting back together - agenda? Men are so protected- from the minute they’re born they get all the donkey work done for them so that they take it for granted from every woman they meet in future. you cant tell them how you really feel, you Cant cry infront of them no matter how much they may be ripping you to pieces. They control if a relationship starts and when it ends and most of what happens in between. I know he’s been driven to some extremely dark and low places in the past, so he should be able to understand what he’s putting me through at the moment, but he finds it so easy to cut himself off from me + concentrate on business. I try to get on with other things, but its impossible not to think about him when im living in the town where he spent the last four years, where many of his friends still live, where i spent the last 6 months with him, putting him first so many times only to be discarded + left in limbo.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (3 minutes after post)

think about yourself for a change, he doesnt care about you so dump him, by the way you describe his actions, he wont be hurt by this, its clearly over for him

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (6 minutes after post)

thats what everyone keeps saying, but it only feels worse to contemplate things ending instead of improving and the last 6 monthsbeing wasted

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (9 minutes after post)

nothing is wasted, at least you have experiance, remember, what doesnt kill us makes us stronger, write off the last 6 months, move on, find someone knew to hang out with, go out with the girls and party, have fun, but most of all give him space, if he really loves you then he will come back to you

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (12 minutes after post)

i dont want anyone else, it just isnt that easy to write him off, discard my feelings for him and put myself ahead of him

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (14 minutes after post)

then you really need to talk to him, find out his feelings and go from there

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (19 minutes after post)

Thats exactly what iv been trying to do for the past month, but there’s things i beileive should only be discussed in person because its harder to apreciate what peolple are trying to say over the phone, but also iv been reading this self help book, that says basically that u CANT display any negative emotions or be tearful with them bcz its just very off-putting and they’ll only see you as someone they dont wanna be with

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (31 minutes after post)

plus, i dont think he’s sure of his feelings because of how low the respect aspect has become, i think he’s trying to run away from them, thinking that’s the answer + is expecting me to do the same -which i would be if was the type of person who can just lose thmselves in a loud dark club full of alcohol and strange guys- he genuinly has alot on atm so im confidant tht he’s not using his budding career as an excuse, on th other hand, im sure he is very glad of having this barrier that shields him from having to deal with me

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (39 minutes after post)

right - lets give this to you rather straight young lass…

you can spend the next 6 months pining after this idiot, and in 6 months be exactly where you are now,

or you can spend that time getting over him, and making sure in 6 months time you are ready to date again.

Lets put it this way - you are in love - there is nothing like that first relationship, and he is milking it for everything - you CANNOT CHANGE HIM. IF he is to change, he will do it himself - and that won’t happen with a VERY unsubtle wake up call.

I will be willing to bet that once you distance yourself from him, he will come running - because suddenly you aren’t there, and he will miss you, and he’s sorry, etc etc etc, until you pay an interest again, then he will do exactly as he is doing now.

Ok. So he’s been hurt. Who fecking cares? - we’ve ALL been hurt! - GET OVER IT (thats to him, not you :P) - it DOES NOT give him a right to treat YOU like ****!

Ultimately, what you do is your choice, but stop fecking throwing yourself at this wonderful bad boy, who you are so perfect for et cetera… if you were so perfect, you wouldn’t be having this problem! - you /may/ be perfect together, but he sure as hell isn’t ready for it!

As said - Back off, tell him to tidy his own damned flat - wait for HIM to call you, and i’ll bet that he does.

Then you can either give him another go (and if you are like most lasses on there first love, another go, and another, and another…) and see what happens

or, my advice - give him ONE more go, and if its not a solid change, walk for life - and TELL HIM THIS IN ADVANCE

Frankly, this annoys me more than it should, but i spent a lot of my young life looking for lovely lasses to spend time with, and most were doing EXACTLY what you are here - there are FAR better, and much more compatible men out there - trust me on this.

Alls said and done - its your life - and making a mistake isn’t stupid. Failing to learn by it is.

Good luck, in whatever you choose :)

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (39 minutes after post)

why not drive to where ever he is and talk to him, dont tell him your going , just do it and talk to him, he may just listen then

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (40 minutes after post)

DjinnGi wrote:
plus, i dont think he’s sure of his feelings because of how low the respect aspect has become, i think he’s trying to run away from them, thinking that’s the answer + is expecting me to do the same -which i would be if was the type of person who can just lose thmselves in a loud dark club full of alcohol and strange guys- he genuinly has alot on atm so im confidant tht he’s not using his budding career as an excuse, on th other hand, im sure he is very glad of having this barrier that shields him from having to deal with me

Oh, and STOP making excuses for him!

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (49 minutes after post)

i booked tickets for monday to go up and see him (wasting £30) on rail tickets, but he then tells me he’s got a session booked that day + he IS very busy getting ready 4 a couple of gigs soon + has to step up to the mark to establish hhimself- he keeps sayingit would be easier for him to come and see me, but its just a question of When he’ll have the time, i offered to go to him so he couldnt use his schedule as such an excuse + now that he’s taken away the definite of knowing when i’d be able to see him, i’m completely back in despair again

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (53 minutes after post)

DjinnGi wrote:
i booked tickets for monday to go up and see him (wasting £30) on rail tickets, but he then tells me he’s got a session booked that day + he IS very busy getting ready 4 a couple of gigs soon + has to step up to the mark to establish hhimself- he keeps sayingit would be easier for him to come and see me, but its just a question of When he’ll have the time, i offered to go to him so he couldnt use his schedule as such an excuse + now that he’s taken away the definite of knowing when i’d be able to see him, i’m completely back in despair again

did you read my post? :P

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (57 minutes after post)

i dont want to be cruel or hurt your feelings even more than the are now but it really sounds like its over, and as for having things in common, do you really? or have you just being forcing the relationship?

relationships just happen, you cant pretend to like the same things, dont change for him, he either likes you or doesnt, maybe he was just sexually attracted to you, now hes away, its not the same.

it honestly sounds like its over, hes not making an effort so doesnt that tell you something?

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (58 minutes after post)

Well, i skimmed it - as you can probably tell from what iv said about how deeply i feel about him, i’m not really in the frame of mind to hear people bad-mouthing him- when i talk to him, i still hear the same gentility in his voice that he had when we first started going out, + its that kind of exchange tht i want to encourage

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (59 minutes after post)

DjinnGi wrote:
Well, i skimmed it - as you can probably tell from what iv said about how deeply i feel about him, i’m not really in the frame of mind to hear people bad-mouthing him- when i talk to him, i still hear the same gentility in his voice that he had when we first started going out, + its that kind of exchange tht i want to encourage

then why are you here? did yoiu want help or reassurance that it will be ok?

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 2 minutes after post)

i disagree tht its over - we’ve got into a bad state bcz of bad habits - i didnt know how to have a relationship, i did too much for him which devalued me in his eyes (as well as generally) + this went on to make us both unhappy, but i know that the relationship can heal if he’ll make the effort too -

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 2 minutes after post)

oh, entirely :)

Trust me - i know /exactly/ what you are going through, which is WHY i said what i did.

do read it though - it might help in a few months time :P

Good luck :)

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 7 minutes after post)

just because someone posts a particular course of advice, doesn’t mean i have to follow it whether or not it turns out to be the correct one–fair enough, you took th trouble to write back but you only know th situation from one paragraph, if i did follow some of the advice im hearing here, i’d feel like a pretty cold self-centred person–what i want is advice on how men think/feel/communicate/see things–not ‘how many ways to kick him to the curb’

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 16 minutes after post)

DjinnGi wrote:
just because someone posts a particular course of advice, doesn’t mean i have to follow it whether or not it turns out to be the correct one–fair enough, you took th trouble to write back but you only know th situation from one paragraph, if i did follow some of the advice im hearing here, i’d feel like a pretty cold self-centred person–what i want is advice on how men think/feel/communicate/see things–not ‘how many ways to kick him to the curb’

well in that case, men are complicated as are women.

women expect men to know what is wrong without telling them, women want men to be intune with their emotions, to think and feel the same as they do, the problem is that men dont.

men live for the moment, they dont think about the impact and complications of certain actions in a relationship. while your worrying about how he is feeling and why and where things went wrong. he is focussed on having fun, maybe he is taking you for granted, expecting you to always be there when he needs you, just right now though he doesnt need you, he is living and having fun.

my advice would be to just let it happen, i know it will hurt if you let him go, trust me im going through similar circumstances. at some point he will realise that he needs and misses you. when he does, you will be there. but you need to make him realise that you have a life too. like i said, go out, have fun and stop worrying about what he is up to, maybe you dont have to move on but you certainatly need to live.

if you love him, let him go. if he loves you, he will come back.

i tried it and it definately worked for me.

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 16 minutes after post)

Wake up.

You have been trying to BUY his affection by doing stuff for him. You are an insecure mess. You have no self worth. You have isolated yourself so he is your only source of socialization. You have most likely become a needy clingy mess…. man repellent.

Here’s what you must do.

Develop your social skills. It’s easy. “How to start a conversation and make friends” by Don Gabor. “How to win friends and influence people” by Dale Carnegie.

Go to meetup.com and join any social groups in your area.

Join exercise classes and work at meeting the people there and getting to know them. Run, bike, swim regularly to build your confidence.

Demand what you deserve. You are a passive victim right now, isolated and afraid and needy. Now you will change. You will demand what you deserve and if you don’t get it, you will end the relationship and find someone better.

If a man is not 100% head over heels in love with you… walk away. Honestly. There are 3 BILLION men on this planet. Don’t settle for someone you have to chase around like a lonesome puppy.

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 17 minutes after post)

DjinnGi wrote:
the relationship can heal if he’ll make the effort too -

IF? why would he bother? he doesn’t have to. sitting around wishing he would change makes you a passive victim and incredibly unattractive.

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 22 minutes after post)

Well yeah, most of tht i agree with, i’v known for a long time tht i need to do some work on myself, but i hadnt realised until my relationship was put in such jeopardy how detrimental insecurity etc could be. iv got ‘how 2 win friends’ + ill look into the other one, where i differ with you is tht this is all to fix myself so tht im more th kind of person he’d Want to go out with again + have the strength to demand a bit more dignity from him which i was too timid to do 6 months ago

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 34 minutes after post)

yh- im learning to know whats unnatractive + making sure i avoid expressing certain emotions to him, sounding needy etc. i try to keep all th phone/chatbx conversations casual + lighthearted, but the bottom line is tht i see every type of behaviour as a reaction, he doesnt respect me anymore bcz iv given him sometihng for nothing over + over again which lowered his perceived value of me, i was too dense to understand tht at th time, so frustration + feeling worthless was my response to his lack of reciprocated effort + thats just gone on spiralling downhill for the last 6 months, but i dont think its too late to change the way i behave, at Least gain some reapect back from him which may….Just May either re-kindle the love flame in him or remind him tht it never entirely went out- its not over till its over. + men arent just like a pair of shoes, when 1 pair wears out, you throw thm away + get another, even if there are 3 billion 2 choose from, 1 happens to be more important to me then all the rest put together

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An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (1 hour, 44 minutes after post)

To A tear from heaven–yh i’v learnt now (not just form him but through othrs) that ppl arent psycic + they dont know what others r thinking + feeling + i do try to say what i need to say -well did b4 we eneded up in different towns- but he is also really bad sometimes at expressing his feelings + will sometimes be in a mood all day or longer + constantly refuses to tell me whats wrong. I dont think its too much of a generalisation to say that a lot of men have difficulty in even identifying What they’re feeling bcz our society doesnt have much room for men to have feelings (or us but we’re barely tolerated! :P

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I love my boyfriend so much, but his feelings for me are not what they used to be -he doesn’t respect me- he’s finished uni now so we’re living quite far apart. He’s never been great at remembering to call me as i’ve never rated very high on his radar - it’s almost impossible to stay in communication with him as i cant afford the phone credit and he’s only ever on facebook at weird times - even then he never bothers messaging me. All he wants to do is put space between us. I know that his agenda is to forget me and hope i forget him but the result is that he’s having a great time living his laddish life, getting into bands + making it happen for himself, whereas i’m constantly thinking about him, wanting him - i wake up + burst into tears, many times during the day i have to leave the room for the same reason. I avoid being around people because i get too upset to hold it together. He has all the power and he’s inadvertently dangling me on a string. All the decisions he’s made about taking a break have been taken over the phone or on a facebook chatbox + we need to meet face to face to discuss something this major. He’s had bad relationships with women in the past who’v really hurt him, so i wish he could undestand how much he’s hurting me atm. When we first got together, all i got from so many of his friends was ’she’s not going to hurt Jed is she?’ All i ever wanted to do was make him happy to be with me, but having read up on it i now see that cooking/cleaning/doing his laundry/giving him a place to write hid last minute dissertation/stepping in + performing in his final performance when a third og his band dropped out was all lessening me in his eyes, not building up any kind of apreciation or valuing. firstly, all the houswify efforts were stuff he didnt find important anyway (he’s perfectly happy to live on pizza + live with the boxes) and secondly, he was repeatedly getting something for nothing - and who values nothing? Who values someone whos worth nothing? Who loves someone they dont value? This was my first relationship, I didnt know how to have one or how to handle men. Although he never directly asked me to cook his dinner etc. for him, he never on th other hand said to me ‘Look, you dont need to do all this for me, i love you as you are’ so he did begin to take advantage of me more and more, which made me feel frustrated and resentfull that all the skivvying wasn’t ‘buying’ me more apreciation but i also felt so disapointed and let down that he’d changed so much from the loving considerate guy who’d actually made me feel like i was important to him for a little while. I still cant understand why he ever fancied me in the first place + at the beginning of the relationship i was especially terrified of having nothing to offer him, so i tried to do ‘nice things’ for him so he could know how much i cared for him - i see now that they were the wrong things, for the two reasons mentioned and because if i wanted to make an effort, i should have done so in getting in with his friends, learning to play poker + risk like he kept hinting at me to do, that would have given us another shared experience on a level between lovers and strangers, because (especially recently) when we’re not in bed, we’re the latter -i was just so afraid of being made to look stupid and i find it excruciating meeting new people, especially with the added pressure of being Expected to get on with them. We’ve hardly got to know eachother at all in 6 months, which is a real shame, and its making him think we have nothing in common, when we do, we have so much, if he’d only open his mind to identifying what we did wrong in the past and then building up the friendship, Then seeing where we are rather than his idea of a complete break with no communication - which would only ensure that we had exactly the same problems to come back to as we have now, which would mean ther’d be no chance of getting back together - agenda? Men are so protected- from the minute they’re born they get all the donkey work done for them so that they take it for granted from every woman they meet in future. you cant tell them how you really feel, you Cant cry infront of them no matter how much they may be ripping you to pieces. They control if a relationship starts and when it ends and most of what happens in between. I know he’s been driven to some extremely dark and low places in the past, so he should be able to understand what he’s putting me through at the moment, but he finds it so easy to cut himself off from me + concentrate on business. I try to get on with other things, but its impossible not to think about him when im living in the town where he spent the last four years, where many of his friends still live, where i spent the last 6 months with him, putting him first so many times only to be discarded + left in limbo.

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