because I ve asked so many pastors, priests, and people of different religions and each time I get a different answer! This makes it quite confusing.
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I believe what the Bible says:
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Every religion seems to think that theirs is the correct and only one! I dont agree with this, but then to counter my opinion, some people say that if everybody believed what they wanted, their would be a million religions. I agree, but I don’t think their should be a fuss over which religion is the “right” religion, whatever right is?
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Truth is it’s alright for everyone to believe what they feel in their heart is the right path. There are many truths and no one definite truth, as everyone has their own definition of what the right path is there is no wrong awnser. Nothing matters as long as you pick the path that you choose.
Cell wrote:
I believe what the Bible says:
John 14:6
Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
So the religion doesn’t/shouldn’t matter then?
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Neutra wrote:
Truth is it’s alright for everyone to believe what they feel in their heart is the right path. There are many truths and no one definite truth, as everyone has their own definition of what the right path is there is no wrong awnser. Nothing matters as long as you pick the path that you choose.
True, but then this start getting into philosophy and I like philosophy, but I also like to keep philosophy and religion separate. Religion is already complex as it is 80
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Its not the word of god its the words of man and his interpretation of what is right or wrong. So far man has gotten it wrong because all of the religions and different gods haven’t united the planet, it has divided it. It doesn’t matter what you do. Live your life the way you want to and don’t worry about god because he is only man made. Hope this helps :-)
Cell wrote:
Jesus is the only way.
huh? I am confused. Do you mind explaining?
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The Clue wrote:
Its not the word of god its the words of man and his interpretation of what is right or wrong. So far man has gotten it wrong because all of the religions and different gods haven’t united the planet, it has divided it. It doesn’t matter what you do. Live your life the way you want to and don’t worry about god because he is only man made. Hope this helps :-)
Well, we haven’t proved that the words come from god, but then we also haven’t proved that they are not from god, so I guess I can see your viewpoint to take whatever path you wish.
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The Clue wrote:
Its not the word of god its the words of man and his interpretation of what is right or wrong. So far man has gotten it wrong because all of the religions and different gods haven’t united the planet, it has divided it. It doesn’t matter what you do. Live your life the way you want to and don’t worry about god because he is only man made. Hope this helps :-)
Are you also suggesting that one should not judge another based on the life they choose: be it they choose to cause harm to others (kill, etc) or help others?
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Jesus was explaining that there is only one God and only one way to God - Himself, God’s only son.
Only the Christian religion teaches that Jesus is the son of God and believing on Him (as Lord) to save you from your sins will get you to heaven.
i was raised hard-core catholic and i am not even catholic any longee….i dont think you have to practice any certain way. but live your life by respecting others and being a good person. thats the way to me
That is a choice made by each and every person. Remember that wars, geniside have been faught and carried out in the name of god and religion.
Cell wrote:
Jesus was explaining that there is only one God and only one way to God - Himself, God’s only son.
Only the Christian religion teaches that Jesus is the son of God and believing on Him (as Lord) to save you from your sins will get you to heaven.
But see, then this raises the question of: what about all those other good people doing good deeds that aren’t necessarily in teh christian religion? what’s to happen to them? Are all their efforts in vain?
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luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
Jesus was explaining that there is only one God and only one way to God - Himself, God’s only son.
Only the Christian religion teaches that Jesus is the son of God and believing on Him (as Lord) to save you from your sins will get you to heaven.
But see, then this raises the question of: what about all those other good people doing good deeds that aren’t necessarily in teh christian religion? what’s to happen to them? Are all their efforts in vain?
Only God can judge.
mz.mo wrote:
i was raised hard-core catholic and i am not even catholic any longee….i dont think you have to practice any certain way. but live your life by respecting others and being a good person. thats the way to me
you say not practicing any certain way, as in not having to follow the commandments? Can you please clarify what you mean by this
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The Clue wrote:
That is a choice made by each and every person. Remember that wars, geniside have been faught and carried out in the name of god and religion.
So if there were no religion, there would be no wars? People would still kill and other would try and do good and there would also be conflict and wars
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There was always conflict ever since man evolved into what we are now the only difference is that we have created gods so now we kill in our gods name.
Cell wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
Jesus was explaining that there is only one God and only one way to God - Himself, God’s only son.
Only the Christian religion teaches that Jesus is the son of God and believing on Him (as Lord) to save you from your sins will get you to heaven.
But see, then this raises the question of: what about all those other good people doing good deeds that aren’t necessarily in teh christian religion? what’s to happen to them? Are all their efforts in vain?
Only God can judge.
So if only God can judge, then the question of which religion is right or “true” is of no use, because regardless of our arguments for or against one, in the end, only God can judge, right?
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I think they are good ideas but not the end all of being a good person.
mz.mo wrote:
I think they are good ideas but not the end all of being a good person.
Do you even attend service/church at all?
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Religion is meant to be an organized way for people to follow God together, and to pool their resources so they can do more. Instead, in practice it is a competition for followers, for control of their minds and their money.
I’ve been through many Christian religions. They all have good points and bad, but ultimately for me their need to have people tow the party line and not ask hard questions, and their tendency to market their churches as if they were businesses, are deal breakers. They are in fact tax-exempt businesses, selling 31 flavors of God, common sense, psychology, and companionship.
One doesn’t have to believe in God to be spiritual, although to some extent I still believe. If you love your neighbor as yourself you are in effect showing the love of God. It doesn’t matter how or where you worship or don’t, no God worth a plug nickel would punish a good person, much less based on the arbitrary rules set up by religion.
luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
Jesus was explaining that there is only one God and only one way to God - Himself, God’s only son.
Only the Christian religion teaches that Jesus is the son of God and believing on Him (as Lord) to save you from your sins will get you to heaven.
But see, then this raises the question of: what about all those other good people doing good deeds that aren’t necessarily in teh christian religion? what’s to happen to them? Are all their efforts in vain?
Only God can judge.
So if only God can judge, then the question of which religion is right or “true” is of no use, because regardless of our arguments for or against one, in the end, only God can judge, right?
Only God can judge if individual people will go to hell or not - I don’t know what is in their hearts and minds - I’m not God. But He has clearly told us how to get to heaven and there is only one way.
Acts 4:12
12Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved.
Sans wrote:
Religion is meant to be an organized way for people to follow God together, and to pool their resources so they can do more. Instead, in practice it is a competition for followers, for control of their minds and their money.
I’ve been through many Christian religions. They all have good points and bad, but ultimately for me their need to have people tow the party line and not ask hard questions, and their tendency to market their churches as if they were businesses, are deal breakers. They are in fact tax-exempt businesses, selling 31 flavors of God, common sense, psychology, and companionship.
One doesn’t have to believe in God to be spiritual, although to some extent I still believe. If you love your neighbor as yourself you are in effect showing the love of God. It doesn’t matter how or where you worship or don’t, no God worth a plug nickel would punish a good person, much less based on the arbitrary rules set up by religion.
Jeez! See opinions like these and that of The Clue are what get me thinking hard over religion. I was raised catholic my whole life, but since being in college, I started having all these doubts. I am trying to get this all sorted out, but it’s extremely complicated.
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For those of you that want to know the real god. He is mentioned in all religions and is all powerfull. He walks beside you and treats all things equealy. He doesnt require you to kneel befor him or repent your sins. He doesnt require blind fath because everyone knows that he is there and has seen his power. The foot prints in the sand are his. When he comes for you everything that you are shall be cast out appon every thing, everwhere and you will become one with all. My god is Death and he is the final destination for your life as you know it. So live your life the way you want because you will meet my god in the end. Hope this helps :-)
I mean, normally, people believeing in God would say, statemenst such as San’s are teasers from the “other side” to try and dissuade your faith. Don’t listen and such, but I am trying to keep an open mind and analyze from all sides.
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It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
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mz.mo wrote:
I think they are good ideas but not the end all of being a good person.
Do you even attend service/church at all?
nope i dont believe you should have to go to a building to make your relationship with a higher power meaningful…. i am a very spiritual person and have felt more connected since i stopped adhering to what people told me my relationship with god should be
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
why is the bible the end all of everything? what about all the other religions books? have you ever read them? are all those books wrong, if so what makes the bible right over them?
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
That’s one of the questions I am trying to decide on
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To try to avoid debate and pointless arguing I intend to keep my replies directed towards the original poster. No offense - just trying to avoid the usual meltdown these kind of posts tend to cause :)
The Clue wrote:
For those of you that want to know the real god. He is mentioned in all religions and is all powerfull. He walks beside you and treats all things equealy. He doesnt require you to kneel befor him or repent your sins. He doesnt require blind fath because everyone knows that he is there and has seen his power. The foot prints in the sand are his. When he comes for you everything that you are shall be cast out appon every thing, everwhere and you will become one with all. My god is Death and he is the final destination for your life as you know it. So live your life the way you want because you will meet my god in the end. Hope this helps :-)
Very true, but I think that even if there is uncertainty over God, religion helps to have some sort of structure on society. I think I would prefer this over chaos and not knowing what to expect.
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Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
That’s one of the questions I am trying to decide on
why cant you believe in more then one of the religious books? it says in the bible not to eat shellfish? do you?
Cell wrote:
To try to avoid debate and pointless arguing I intend to keep my replies directed towards the original poster. No offense - just trying to avoid the usual meltdown these kind of posts tend to cause :)
fair enough i was just curious
mz.mo wrote:
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
why is the bible the end all of everything? what about all the other religions books? have you ever read them? are all those books wrong, if so what makes the bible right over them?
Exactly, there are so many religion books. I think that as time progresses, this issue will only become more divergent and all h3ll will break loose.
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luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
That’s one of the questions I am trying to decide on
You could read, A Case for Christ, by Lee Strobel.
If you believe in satin or the devil what better way to get people to kill and hate each other than have man make their own gods and religions. All he has to do is sit back and watch as man destroys himself over a book and an idea that one is better than the other.
mz.mo wrote:
luketrai wrote:
mz.mo wrote:
I think they are good ideas but not the end all of being a good person.
Do you even attend service/church at all?
nope i dont believe you should have to go to a building to make your relationship with a higher power meaningful…. i am a very spiritual person and have felt more connected since i stopped adhering to what people told me my relationship with god should be
well see, I belive in God, but I disagree with some of the certain practices of some specific religions. The basic ten commandents seems to be the base of most religions, but then you have some religions like in islam or something like that, where you are allowed to have multiple wives? this contradicts many religions? It’s so dogmatic
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luketrai wrote:
mz.mo wrote:
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
why is the bible the end all of everything? what about all the other religions books? have you ever read them? are all those books wrong, if so what makes the bible right over them?
Exactly, there are so many religion books. I think that as time progresses, this issue will only become more divergent and all h3ll will break loose.
I have read some of other religious text, though not all. I already know the truth, why look elsewhere?
Yes, you may think that’s close minded but that’s just it. I am. Why would I be open-minded about something that is a fact? Truth is truth and isn’t different from person to person. Truth is not relative it’s what is true.
I have experienced God. I know He’s real. I love Jesus.
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luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
That’s one of the questions I am trying to decide on
why cant you believe in more then one of the religious books? it says in the bible not to eat shellfish? do you?
I don’t think I even know what a shellfish is! Seriously, I am not trying to be funny
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Just wondering…What are you considering religions and what are you considering religious texts?
The Clue wrote:
If you believe in satin or the devil what better way to get people to kill and hate each other than have man make their own gods and religions. All he has to do is sit back and watch as man destroys himself over a book and an idea that one is better than the other.
Well, if you belive in satin, then you must also believe in God, because without God, their would be no satin.
Also, what about all the supernatural stuff that happens. How is this explained?
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Cell wrote:
Just wondering…What are you considering religions and what are you considering religious texts?
is this directed at me?
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luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
Just wondering…What are you considering religions and what are you considering religious texts?
is this directed at me?
yes
ok,
religions: Christianity, Islamic, Baptist, etc
religious texts: bible, qur’ an, etc
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Ok, so for example, I have a relative who experienced some freaky stuff. My mother was there and some of my other family witnessed this. How the heck is this to be explained???
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ok that’s what I thought. There aren’t that many major religions, actually.
Baptist is Christian.
The major world religions are Christianity, Islam, Buddhist, Judaism, and Hindu.
luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
That’s one of the questions I am trying to decide on
why cant you believe in more then one of the religious books? it says in the bible not to eat shellfish? do you?
I don’t think I even know what a shellfish is! Seriously, I am not trying to be funny
lol like crab and lobster ect
luketrai wrote:
The Clue wrote:
If you believe in satin or the devil what better way to get people to kill and hate each other than have man make their own gods and religions. All he has to do is sit back and watch as man destroys himself over a book and an idea that one is better than the other.
Well, if you belive in satin, then you must also believe in God, because without God, their would be no satin.
Also, what about all the supernatural stuff that happens. How is this explained?
Let me phrase it differently. If a man wanted instead of (satin or the devil). It would still work in that sentence.
luketrai wrote:
Ok, so for example, I have a relative who experienced some freaky stuff. My mother was there and some of my other family witnessed this. How the heck is this to be explained???
what kind of stuff?
Cell wrote:
ok that’s what I thought. There aren’t that many major religions, actually.
Baptist is Christian.
The major world religions are Christianity, Islam, Buddhist, Judaism, and Hindu.
yeah, I baptist is under the umbrella of Christianity, but there are other religions that have since branched off from these that you listed, such as Bahai
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luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
That’s one of the questions I am trying to decide on
why cant you believe in more then one of the religious books? it says in the bible not to eat shellfish? do you?
I don’t think I even know what a shellfish is! Seriously, I am not trying to be funny
lol like crab and lobster ect
yes, then I do eat shellfish
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Well, Bahai is not a major world religion.
I guess the key question is who is Jesus?
luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
That’s one of the questions I am trying to decide on
why cant you believe in more then one of the religious books? it says in the bible not to eat shellfish? do you?
I don’t think I even know what a shellfish is! Seriously, I am not trying to be funny
lol like crab and lobster ect
yes, then I do eat shellfish
lol well according to the bible thats a sin.
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luketrai wrote:
Ok, so for example, I have a relative who experienced some freaky stuff. My mother was there and some of my other family witnessed this. How the heck is this to be explained???
what kind of stuff?
as told be my mother, my 2nd or something cousin was down on the floor with his eyes turned upwards completely (only white part visible). His chest had a visible big lump that was fluid and moving about. He then spoke in a weird tongue. They took him to mexico to try and cure him with a priest over there: on the way, he tried to gauge his BROTHER’s eye with a cross and made a deep cut in his face. His brother and my uncle BOTH could not contain him, because they said he had freakish strenght. The cops arrived at the scence, put handcuffs on him and took him all the way to mexico like that. Once there, he saw a priest who cured him. During this, his brother said that while the priest was performing the service, whatever it was, that his little brother yelled out: “Oh, I see god in the distance”. Afterwards, he was cured and has been fine since then
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luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
That’s one of the questions I am trying to decide on
why cant you believe in more then one of the religious books? it says in the bible not to eat shellfish? do you?
I don’t think I even know what a shellfish is! Seriously, I am not trying to be funny
lol like crab and lobster ect
yes, then I do eat shellfish
lol well according to the bible thats a sin.
really, are we talking the same bible?
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luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Ok, so for example, I have a relative who experienced some freaky stuff. My mother was there and some of my other family witnessed this. How the heck is this to be explained???
what kind of stuff?
as told be my mother, my 2nd or something cousin was down on the floor with his eyes turned upwards completely (only white part visible). His chest had a visible big lump that was fluid and moving about. He then spoke in a weird tongue. They took him to mexico to try and cure him with a priest over there: on the way, he tried to gauge his BROTHER’s eye with a cross and made a deep cut in his face. His brother and my uncle BOTH could not contain him, because they said he had freakish strenght. The cops arrived at the scence, put handcuffs on him and took him all the way to mexico like that. Once there, he saw a priest who cured him. During this, his brother said that while the priest was performing the service, whatever it was, that his little brother yelled out: “Oh, I see god in the distance”. Afterwards, he was cured and has been fine since then
wow thats pretty amazing…… i had a catholic priest tell me those things really happen often but they are told not to talk about it. i was around 10 when he told myself and a few friends about it
After this my uncle who had accompanied them to mexico said that during that night, he had a horrible dream that he just had to wake up. He said he woke up sweating and to find that his bed was shaking and parts of the bed were not touching the floor. How is this explained??? Nobody else was in the room with him!
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luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
luketrai wrote:
Cell wrote:
It comes down to the question do you believe the Bible or not?
That’s one of the questions I am trying to decide on
why cant you believe in more then one of the religious books? it says in the bible not to eat shellfish? do you?
I don’t think I even know what a shellfish is! Seriously, I am not trying to be funny
lol like crab and lobster ect
yes, then I do eat shellfish
lol well according to the bible thats a sin.
really, are we talking the same bible?
yes sirre bob….i like to bring that one up in gay marriage debates
Yes, mz.mo, this is true. After this occurance, my faith in God is stronger, but just working out some minor issues with the specifics
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What does “following the Word of God” mean to you?
nobody has an explanation for such events and they do exists. Many people don’t see or get to witness such things, but that doesn’t make them fake. Same is true with God, I know I can’t directly prove it or anythin like that, but I would like to think that if these types of things exists, then God must exist!
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luketrai wrote:
nobody has an explanation for such events and they do exists. Many people don’t see or get to witness such things, but that doesn’t make them fake. Same is true with God, I know I can’t directly prove it or anythin like that, but I would like to think that if these types of things exists, then God must exist!
I agree. I have experienced God. I had a very bad back but to make a long story short I was prayed for and now my back if fine!
Well i wish you luck on finding your way. The adventure never stops and the learning never ceases and I know that god wants it to be that way(at least in my life ;) )
but its late and i have to work tomorrow. have a good night all
Cell wrote:
What does “following the Word of God” mean to you?
treating others as I would like to be treated: well! Also, following the ten commandments. I think the 10 commandments kind of go along with treat others as you would like to be treated. I wouldn’t want somebody to sleep with my wife or kill my kids, etc. Likewise, I wouldn’t do the same
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Cell wrote:
luketrai wrote:
nobody has an explanation for such events and they do exists. Many people don’t see or get to witness such things, but that doesn’t make them fake. Same is true with God, I know I can’t directly prove it or anythin like that, but I would like to think that if these types of things exists, then God must exist!
I agree. I have experienced God. I had a very bad back but to make a long story short I was prayed for and now my back if fine!
right! Many people have such similar experiences! I don’t mean to put anybody down or anything, but it’s only once things get rough or stuff happens that people turn to God, all the while having ignored him in the past. I think it’s good that they finally turn to God later on, but I say why risk it? Believe now and follow some simple rules, and if in the end, its false, then I still lived a great life, but if it turn out true, then I am already on the right path. By the way, from the experience I described above, I think God does exist.
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well, good conversation all! Good night as I have class tomorrow morning, lol.
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yes it dosn’t matter.just follow the religious path which you feel
most comfortable with.They all lead to the same place.
Some more round about than others.
spiratec9 wrote:
yes it dosn’t matter.just follow the religious path which you feel
most comfortable with.They all lead to the same place.
Some more round about than others.
I completly agree, you’ve been given time, you’re searching.. and every step you take towards God, you will be rewarded, God takes two steps your way.
At the moment prefer not to dive into a religious debate, it’s your life, your path, your choices. Be patient.
“For those who belive in God, do you think it matters what religion you join as long as you’re following the word of God?”
if it is truly the Word of God then it is constant and one, is it not?
so technically all are bullshiting except one, since all are different…
unless all are bullshitting and religion is a road to connect with god… just like everybody has his own language that he speaks but even tho it may sound different it actually means the same thing ^_^
I believe there are many paths to God/Universal powers. I think that God goes by many names. It does not matter what religion you are or if you follow any religion, what matters is that you connect with that higher being. That connection is what will guide you.
What a great post, and how wonderful to see people discussing religion with out judging each others beliefs/opinions.
“Some people, in order to discover God, read books. But there is a great book: the very appearance of created things. Look above you! Look below you! Read it. God, whom you want to discover, never wrote that book with ink. Instead, He set before your eyes the things that He had made. Can you ask for a louder voice than that?”
Saint Augustine.
Follow the word of God? By whose interpretation?
What good is a book if you do not know the Author?
I say, know the Author, and you will know the book in your heart.
Many religions “know” the Bible but do not know God.
Which version of the Bible do we go by?
Man will always taint what God has made, but just as a parent teaches through example, God is there to teach us.
I’m not saying don’t read the Bible, (if this is what you mean by the word of God)I am saying that interpretations, nay, even our own innate prejudices distort what He has created.
Tictactomm wrote:
“Some people, in order to discover God, read books. But there is a great book: the very appearance of created things. Look above you! Look below you! Read it. God, whom you want to discover, never wrote that book with ink. Instead, He set before your eyes the things that He had made. Can you ask for a louder voice than that?”
Saint Augustine.
wow!
I believe in God with all my heart. I believe in the miracles he performs everyday and i have had the pleasure of seeing a few myself. He works in wonderful and mysterious ways that will never be explained but only by his love for all of us. I dont see going to church as a big problem. I dont go to church because i want to believe what i want to believe. I dont see sitting in a church and listening to a pastor preach to me is worth my time when i would rather see the beauty of his work thats all around us. Im not saying that going to church is bad but with all the religions today, your right, i wouldnt know where to go.
I pray all the time and believe in the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. And that works for me. I get scared sometimes because i dont want to be wrong about it. I just have to know that in my heart, i believe in him and that one day i will go to Heaven and be happy forever more…
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luketrai wrote:
For those who belive in God, do you think it matters what religion you join as long as you’re following the word of God?
I believe as long as people are happy and they are not causing harm to anyone then that is what counts.
If you believe in God I think it is more of a reflection on that person, and its great to know someone can have religion in their life. However if you don’t follow religion, or belong to the same denomination I think that people should respect everyones decision to do as they please. Whether you agree or not.
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I don’t believe in any god or religion, and don’t really understand how anybody could, but as long as what you believe makes sense to you and helps you then it shouldn’t really matter. I suppose a plus of joining a religion is that you are introduced into a family of people who can provide support and answers. In terms of whether following the word of god is enough then no, because there are many religions with very different ideals and ideas and so the word of god can mean many different things. The commandment “You shall have no other gods before me” says it all. but as i said it shouldn’t really matter as long as we respect what other people choose to believe.
i don’t care…God is important & as long as we don’t disturb people god is satisfied….it is said that in qoran:God doesn’t care which prophet u believe in…just obeying GOD is important… :)
hmm, im not gonna take the time to read…
but i believe there is one truth. if you believe something besides the truth, then your wasting time. i dont think there is a truth for each person.
its like even if you believe youll be fine walking across busy intersections randomly, it doesnt matter cause you can still be hit.
but if you believe you should avoid them completely or simply know that you could be hit, you can grasp the truth either way and approach not getting hit diffrently…
so as long as that religion provides you with the truth, you can believe variations.
however, simply because you believe something does not make it so.
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2 months ago (19 hours, 39 minutes after post)
But it doesn’t have to be true to help people. Just believing in it can comfort and aid people enormously. And since nobody knows the ‘truth’ they are in the position as anybody else.
aaah. true, about the helping. hehe.
helping people is a good thing too.
some people think they do know the truth. im one of those. im not in it for the comfort or good vibes myself. i could care less about those things.
I think it does matter which religion you belong to,worshiping God is not about different opinions uniting us to God, far from it;for further help or aid visit www.watchtower.org
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Let’s say humans have walked this planet for 195,000 years which is a close estimate. For 193,000 of those years they all went to #ell because Jesus had not been born yet. This is a small problem for me. It just really seems unfair…
I have to think if there is a God and an afterlife you will be judged upon your behaviour and not your profession of belief in any human as being divine. Just a theory and I haven’t found a church that thinks like I do. I don’t think I’m coming back as a cow either.
there is now way you can follow all the religion in this world without trespassing one or more of the religions. under the ten commandments, that both christianity and judaism use, God said that He is the only God and there should be no other God before Him. budhism believes that the ultimate goal in life is the destruction of self or nirvana (absence of oneself), while Christianity believes in satisfaction of relationship with God as father. islam and judaism believe that eating pork is defiled, while other religions, such as hinduism, permit it. hinduism believes that shiva, one of the gods (3 major gods in hinduism) is a fearful god in which humans should give sacrifices or he will be angry.
those differences just show us that you really cant follow all religions, regardless whether you think it’s okay or not. you’ve got to find the truth, not what you perceive as truth, but the real truth. you can only choose whether god is god and he created the world, or if we are really descendants of monkeys and keep evolving like darwin said.
for me, i know the truth. can’t explain it before you experience it, but i believe that jesus is the way, truth, and life. if you want to know what “form of christianity” that’s true, just check the bible (basic instruction before leaving earth). john 1 said “in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God.” that means, the God that we christians worship is the God that is strictly defined by the bible. and bible actually describes a wide range of issues, such as marriage, work, afterlife, etc. just read it to understand it. :)
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Well if you’re right heaven’s not to of a crowded place is it? Now #ell on the other hand is just chock full of 193,000 years of folks. Bet the real estate is pricey.
My thoughts on this are, if we assume that Christians are correct and God can be nothing or, even everything, presumably omnipotent then why would “he” want us to limit “him” to a “he” when the source of all things created in this Universe that we are aware of are of it? We are of the source of all things, or in other words we are ALL God’s children no?
I’m afraid I have a very limited view and understanding of “God” though (maybe not compared to most people don’t get me wrong), only to admit there is a source of energy in all life and in all creation. The abundance of the space, and the time continuum and in all that could possibly happen, but seems to work in clockwork perfection…
That’s a lot of randomness if you really think about it. Despite whatever religion you choose to follow, if it helps, know that some believe God is all things. God is a natural balance, the Star that we all came from. God is us, the air we breathe, to the cigarette butts on the streets, and all the other planets in all the galaxies of the universe. It is all the same thing or of the same source. We are the same. So to me, it doesn’t matter which way you choose to view it even if it’s different, probably like my view of everything. I don’t know. I just ponder it sometimes.
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Cell wrote:
luketrai wrote:
nobody has an explanation for such events and they do exists. Many people don’t see or get to witness such things, but that doesn’t make them fake. Same is true with God, I know I can’t directly prove it or anythin like that, but I would like to think that if these types of things exists, then God must exist!
I agree. I have experienced God. I had a very bad back but to make a long story short I was prayed for and now my back if fine!
If you looked deep enough, i’m sure you could find a logical answer to that. if i stick my hand out and ask for rain, and it rains, does it mean god made it rain? no there are such things as coincidences..
breachUpfro wrote:
Dr. Ralph wrote:
Let’s say humans have walked this planet for 195,000 years which is a close estimate. For 193,000 of those years they all went to #ell because Jesus had not been born yet. This is a small problem for me. It just really seems unfair…
I have to think if there is a God and an afterlife you will be judged upon your behaviour and not your profession of belief in any human as being divine. Just a theory and I haven’t found a church that thinks like I do. I don’t think I’m coming back as a cow either.
How do you know that they went to #ell? If Jesus was sent to show people the way, then that doesn’t mean that all the people before him went to #ell. There were some good and bad people, just like there are now. Surely, not all went to #ell!
This question of whether they all went to #ell or not is relative to answer, since what you believe to be true on this matter is distinclty different from what I and other people may believe. In the end, I don’t think it matters what you or I think/belive in. As long as you are ok with your belief and I am ok with my own belief, then everything is good.
but everyone is born a sinner, and you can only go to heaven if your saved right? how could they accept god if they didnt know he existed…?
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breachUpfro wrote:
sp0ons wrote:
Cell wrote:
luketrai wrote:
nobody has an explanation for such events and they do exists. Many people don’t see or get to witness such things, but that doesn’t make them fake. Same is true with God, I know I can’t directly prove it or anythin like that, but I would like to think that if these types of things exists, then God must exist!
I agree. I have experienced God. I had a very bad back but to make a long story short I was prayed for and now my back if fine!
If you looked deep enough, i’m sure you could find a logical answer to that. if i stick my hand out and ask for rain, and it rains, does it mean god made it rain? no there are such things as coincidences..
a biological explanation to everything? There are expert biologist who cannot explain many things in this world. Biology is just another God for some people, offering answers in a different approach. Regardless, it doesn’t matter which you belive in as long as it makes you happy. I am sure that if you had experienced something similar to what luketrai described, you would believe differently!
so what your saying is that just because something is unexplained, it ahs to be the work of some higher power? namely, a God?
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i don’t care what people believe, i just thoroughly enjoy debating religion with people. Do you think it matters that i’m an athiest, as long as i’m happy?
sp0ons wrote:
breachUpfro wrote:
sp0ons wrote:
Cell wrote:
luketrai wrote:
nobody has an explanation for such events and they do exists. Many people don’t see or get to witness such things, but that doesn’t make them fake. Same is true with God, I know I can’t directly prove it or anythin like that, but I would like to think that if these types of things exists, then God must exist!
I agree. I have experienced God. I had a very bad back but to make a long story short I was prayed for and now my back if fine!
If you looked deep enough, i’m sure you could find a logical answer to that. if i stick my hand out and ask for rain, and it rains, does it mean god made it rain? no there are such things as coincidences..
a biological explanation to everything? There are expert biologist who cannot explain many things in this world. Biology is just another God for some people, offering answers in a different approach. Regardless, it doesn’t matter which you belive in as long as it makes you happy. I am sure that if you had experienced something similar to what luketrai described, you would believe differently!
so what your saying is that just because something is unexplained, it ahs to be the work of some higher power? namely, a God?
I am saying that that’s why I choose to believe on this particular issue (not for all cases, because I will say that we have been wrong in the past about events that are perfectly explainable with science today), not that that’s what IT SHOULD be.
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sp0ons wrote:
i don’t care what people believe, i just thoroughly enjoy debating religion with people. Do you think it matters that i’m an athiest, as long as i’m happy?
I also find it interesting to find out what other people with different perspectives belief in regards to religion.
But, no, I don’t care at all if you’re an athiest, agnostic, deist, etc. That’s what you choose to believe in. I will not impose my belief on you, as you can’t impose your beliefs on me either.
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Wrote my response in a separate post.
Search of Jesus and palls.
Peace out, Legion.
If God is no respecter of persons;
I believe He would have a plan to help all of His children (us) to return to live with Him. It would be a plan that would take care of every eventuality. Every possibility would be covered no one would be excluded from knowing how to get there. No one would be excluded from knowing what he / she had to do to make the journey.
Unfortunately / Fortunately; depending on your point of view, by experience; I have found that all roads do not lead to Rome. It must be that God has one path to follow; else why would he have sent His Son to correct our course? If we could just choose a bit of “What we Fancy” and know that this would be acceptable to God, Christ would not have required to counter the teachings of the scribes and the Pharisees, indeed He would not need to have come into this world at all! But He did and we must follow Him, but along which road? is the question.
If God loves us He would make it possible for all of us to find Him and enable us to be with Him forever, I believe he is capable of saving all of his children and returning to live with Him is a reality. He has a perfect plan and there is a need for us to follow that one course; it is the only way for all mankind to get into His presence. I am fortunate to have found the path and you can find it too. We need to follow the “WORD” He has restored His Church on earth today, there are Prophets and Apostles who direct His work to help us and all of mankind to return to Him.Regardless of what our station is in life, regardless of what limitations life has placed upon us, His plan is there for us to follow. Michael
we are all atheï***** about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in and that some of us just go one god further…
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“word of god” is a biased phrase. help.com is doomed.
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2 months ago (1 day, 11 hours after post)
For anybody that seeks the truth i can not understand why or how you can believe in religion. I’m not saying that there isn’t a god, but the explanations and reasons religion provides make no sense. Science uses logical thinking backed up by evidence and all of it suggests that the existence of a god is very unlikely. For every single thing religion would attempt to explain, science can do it with logical and the same amount of, if not more, evidence to back it up. Why so people still turn to religion for truthful answers?
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I do not know if there is a God so I shouldn’t answer, but I pretty much follow his word about behaviour. I do not steal, lie, commit adultery, don’t worship idols, never killed anyone, take Sundays off even though the Sabbath was Saturday really, honor my parents, I don’t covet my neighbors wife and I try not to cuss but these should be common sense… So I don’t believe it matters what religion you are or even if you have one I think if you behave if there is a God he will reward you.
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Dr. Ralph wrote:
I do not know if there is a God so I shouldn’t answer, but I pretty much follow his word about behaviour. I do not steal, lie, commit adultery, don’t worship idols, never killed anyone, take Sundays off even though the Sabbath was Saturday really, honor my parents, I don’t covet my neighbors wife and I try not to cuss but these should be common sense… So I don’t believe it matters what religion you are or even if you have one I think if you behave if there is a God he will reward you.
Well I guess no body knows for sure! So the best thing we can all do is make the most of life - in whatever way makes us happiest and of course, obey moral laws etc.
Whether there is or isn’t one… I hope he does exist.
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