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would you rather pay taxes to keep murders alive in prison or just let them have the death penalty?

or is there anyone who thinks murders walk free? you say.

is there anyone who knows how to make this into a table thing? so people can choose and see figure?

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Ptrsz offline Verified User (2 months) Shouts: 0 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (11 minutes after post)

I think it is unfair that people have to pay taxes so that murderers and other wrong-dooers can stay alive. But then, if they get the death penalty, that may be a punishment that is too lenient. If they have to do life in prison, it will drive them crazy and that’s a just punishment, no matter where they go after they die.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months ago (13 minutes after post)

yes its true life in prison is a punishment. im very interested to see if people would rather pay their taxes to keep wrong doers live.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months ago (13 minutes after post)

after all, they work for their money.

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linuxya offline Verified User (2 years, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 15 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 months ago (18 minutes after post)

You reduce a human being into one act: murder. And you also assume the person was properly convicted. There are plenty of wrongfully convicted people.

A person lives say an average of 70 years. They do something horrible like kill someone. So you want to kill off another person to somehow make up for that? That person can become a productive member of society, even in prison.

People commit crimes because their basic human needs are not being met. Executing them is simply saying that we can’t be bothered addressing those needs. Instead we’ll just discard those humans like garbage.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months ago (22 minutes after post)

well obviously if you worked ud want the money to go towards the prisons.
but many have their own views. when i go onto child abuse videos on youtube there are many who say they want the death penalty. thats what made me want to start to post to see what people thought about it.

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kathrynkurs offline Verified User (11 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 34 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (23 minutes after post)

I honestly don’t think it’s punishment at all. They get to have free meals, a free place to stay and they get to enjoy activities. How about we put them in a small room with no window and no communication, now that’s punishment. I have watched tv programs about prison and some inmates even get to have a tv in their room. Personally, I do not like paying taxes for these criminals, why can’t my taxes go towards something that’s a good cause.

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babacup offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 8 #
Indianapolis, IN, US | 2 months ago (25 minutes after post)

I have such split feelings on this. The intellectual part of me just says kill them off and don’t waist our money. Then if I look at it through the spiritual side, then I think we should not kill anyone for any reason. And I have to go with what I feel is spiritually the right thing to do. Not to kill.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months ago (26 minutes after post)

I think people should decide when paying their taxes where to give it too.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months ago (36 minutes after post)

babacup wrote:
I have such split feelings on this. The intellectual part of me just says kill them off and don’t waist our money. Then if I look at it through the spiritual side, then I think we should not kill anyone for any reason. And I have to go with what I feel is spiritually the right thing to do. Not to kill.

yes its true its not nice to kill.
but also taking into consideration, does it feel right for the money you work for to go to wrong doers?
ok, many wudnt want murderers to die, but who wud want to pay for them?

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babacup offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 8 #
Indianapolis, IN, US | 2 months ago (1 hour, 1 minute after post)

Maybe the answer is to make the prison system self supporting . The prisoners need to earn their keep. To get their meals, they need to have done their jobs. Same if they want a shower or lights in their rooms. If not, they can rot there. That way it is not on the tax payer as much.

I know there is a prison system here in the US that has a lot controversy. It is in Arizona. The prisoners live in tents and it is in a dessert area. They only get baloney sandwiches and other cheap basic foods. http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/27/tough.s…

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Cell offline Verified User (2 years, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 63 #
Winnipeg, MB, CA | 2 months ago (2 hours, 11 minutes after post)

I think we should put them to work, have factories or that sort of things in the jails and there should be a behaviour modification program…rewards for good behaviour nothing but solitary confinement and bread and water for non-compliance.

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erinemmon offline Verified User (2 months) Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 months ago (2 hours, 18 minutes after post)

spiritedsoul wrote:
I think people should decide when paying their taxes where to give it too.

yeah, good luck with that.

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Cell offline Verified User (2 years, 9 months) Long Term User Shouts: 63 #
Winnipeg, MB, CA | 2 months ago (5 hours, 37 minutes after post)

Oh yeah and I forgot to say that they wouldn’t get paid. The money would go for their keep.

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spiritedsoul offline Verified User (2 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
Sandgate, G5, GB | 2 months ago (15 hours, 57 minutes after post)

to be honest, in future when i work after finishing education, giving so much to people who would do stuff to me if had the chance, why would i want to give it to the idiots. i owe them nothing as far as i see it. rather give it to people who are nice kind, and really do need it.

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An Unknown Location | 1 month, 2 weeks ago (2 weeks, 3 days after post)

What are you talking about ? it costs so much more money to put someone to death .

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An Unknown Location | 1 month ago (4 weeks, 1 day after post)

There are two issues that come to my mind with such an intriguing question. First is the purpose of our penal system. Our system us set up to punish criminals, which doesn’t help the problem. All punishment does is encourage wrong-doers not to get caught again; it does not encourage them to change their ways. Even though it is often called a rehabilitation system, it is not. It is a punishment system, which has been shown time and time again to fail both the criminal and society. If we were able to change our punishment system into a rehabilitation system (as has been successful in other countries) I would say a vahement “no” to the question of a death penalty.

Without restructuring our entire penal system from a punishment system and without delving into the morality of an-eye-for-an-eye system which would depend on your own subject morality, the other base factor is money. Surprisingly with all of the logistics, legal fees, and systems required for putting a person to death, it’s usually cheaper to let him rot in jail rather than go through and actually kill them. I haven’t done the research on this in a long time, but in the eighties the trial costs of the initial trials, the repeal of the trial, the sentencing, the repeal of the sentencing, the final sentencing, the appeal to the governor, ad mortum were staggering. It’s worth doing the research if you think it’s cheaper just to kill a man rather than keep him in prison. If this were the old days and we could just have a good ol’ hangin’ (which is free) it would be an easy choice, but you might find that the rigamarole of putting a man in the electric chair or lethal injection is much more expensive than a bullet to the head!

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An Unknown Location | 3 weeks, 3 days ago (1 month, 1 week after post)

Wow. I’m doing a debate speech on the death penalty and it is amazing what I’ve learned. The thought that our money is going towards murderers and criminals to have a worry free life is absurb! It may cost more to just put someone to death, but that shouldn’t be our worry anyway. The government or someone else in that area needs to fix that on their own and not have citizens do their dirty work. I know it’s less likely to happen; it’s just my personal thought.

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An Unknown Location | 3 weeks ago (1 month, 1 week after post)

Just pay enough taxes to keep the prison open for them, do not pay for all the extra stuff such as televisions and three square meals a day. In fact, Italy the prisoner gets food if his family brings it, however, if they do not have any family or friends then they should get something as simple as a peanut butter and jelly sandwich for a meal. Just give the basic cell with a bed clothes and nothing else.

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