Serious question about being color blind.
I’m color blind, apparently in reds and greens, and I haven’t been really this much concerned about it until now.
I’ve seen a picture in a book showing what something looks like to a regular, non color blind person, and then one of what it looks like to a color blind person, and they looked almost completely different.
And since then, I’ve been wondering, could what I see as one color, red for example, be what someone else sees as another color, like green? Maybe sort of as if what I see is totally different from someone else.
Take an apple for example, I see it as a mid/dark “red”, but other people might see it as a shade of “blue”, except it is known to both of us red, so we both may never know that we are seeing totally different colors.
So my question is, could the colors that I see, be completely different from what everyone else sees, not just as different shades, but a whole new “set” of colors? Sort of like inverting the colors of a picture, they see the regular, and I see the inverted.
I know it’s not much of a big deal, but it’s really been bothering me, and asking here is probably the only help I’ll be able to get.
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It is quite possible we each see different colors but the label is the same. Just like life experiences. We each experience the same thing differently through our perceptions. Carol
Yeah, i love that concept
And its brilliant because there is no way we’ll ever know
Ever.
all colors have a certain shade in monochrome, you just have to learn what’s what
as far as red/green color blindness that means blue should show up normally right? so you see blue all the time? lol
Hi darkness, actually it manifests when several people witness the same accident, or the same crime. Each one will give a different account, or different description of the car or perpetrator. It is fascinating, and also, once you understand this it is easier to forgive others for not meeting your expectations.
candp wrote:
Hi darkness, actually it manifests when several people witness the same accident, or the same crime. Each one will give a different account, or different description of the car or perpetrator. It is fascinating, and also, once you understand this it is easier to forgive others for not meeting your expectations.
I find that so interesting.
And i mean you will never be able to witness another human being’s view of the world, how all thier colours may be mixed up etc
I’m sorry that you suffer from colour-blindness. I do too, and I know how much of a pain it can be.
It’s a interesting question that you’ve asked. Several years ago, a few friends and I were discussing whether it could actually be me, the only colour-blind person, who is seeing the right colours. Personally, I think it’s a somewhat philosophical question; one that could be very difficult to answer.
I think it depends on the severity of one’s colour-blindness. I wouldn’t have thought that colour-blind people see a ‘new set’ of colours; I just think that certain colours can be mistaken for others. For example: red and green, blue and purple etc.
darkness_and_stars wrote:
Yeah, i love that concept
And its brilliant because there is no way we’ll ever know
Ever.
I know, and that’s what sort of scares me. I may never know if what I see is different from everyone else and the same way around, or if it is just the same.
Jesse.M.B wrote:
darkness_and_stars wrote:
Yeah, i love that concept
And its brilliant because there is no way we’ll ever know
Ever.I know, and that’s what sort of scares me. I may never know if what I see is different from everyone else and the same way around, or if it is just the same.
Its a little mindblowing if you think too deeply about it isnt it
darkness_and_stars wrote:
Jesse.M.B wrote:
darkness_and_stars wrote:
Yeah, i love that concept
And its brilliant because there is no way we’ll ever know
Ever.I know, and that’s what sort of scares me. I may never know if what I see is different from everyone else and the same way around, or if it is just the same.
Its a little mindblowing if you think too deeply about it isnt it
Yes, and I’m the kind of person who thinks way too deeply about something, and that’s how I got into this situation.
Candp is right. Maybe we are told apples are red but we saw them as blue? Maybe we convinced ourselves they looked red because of what we were told. Who knows?
well, honestly I think it’s no big deal. I mean, you’re color-blind, so you’ve got the chance to see colors in a way normal people don’t! (that’s special).
as some have already pointed out. you can experience colors, and then label them; but labels are just that, labels. funnily enough, did you know that in japanese they wouldn’t tell blue apart from green? something blue was “aoi”; something green was “aoi” too! In the same line, some African countries distinguish a huge range of brown and black/grey colors, depending on subtle nuance. Who’s right? Who’s wrong?
No one =)
well im sort of color blind i cant see certain lite color but it really doesnt bother me but when took a test on color blindness certain pages i only could see was different shads of grey and black
i don’t get it,
red is red and green is green. mathematically speaking of course
like i said every frequency in the color spectrum has it’s own identity
even in monochrome (B&W) colors are definite.
Alberto wrote:
well, honestly I think it’s no big deal. I mean, you’re color-blind, so you’ve got the chance to see colors in a way normal people don’t! (that’s special).as some have already pointed out. you can experience colors, and then label them; but labels are just that, labels. funnily enough, did you know that in japanese they wouldn’t tell blue apart from green? something blue was “aoi”; something green was “aoi” too! In the same line, some African countries distinguish a huge range of brown and black/grey colors, depending on subtle nuance. Who’s right? Who’s wrong?
No one =)
I’ve honestly never thought of it like that, and I just don’t feel “special” about seeing them differently, but knowing that does make me feel a little different than before.
Rock On m/ wrote:
i don’t get it,
red is red and green is green. mathematically speaking of course
like i said every frequency in the color spectrum has it’s own identity
even in monochrome (B&W) colors are definite.
mmm that’s a tricky issue! obviously, they can be mathematically defined (actually, they are, as you can see in computers; actually again, you’ve got different palettes and different mathematical methods -mixing colours, meddling with light, contrast, etc etc etc), but they are defined as NUMBERS. A number is a number. but when you start labeling colours… red is red, and purple is purple (for me), but when given a mmm gradient? where would you stop calling red red and start calling it purple? not everyone will agree with your (or my) perception…
Numbers are objective. Labels aren’t.
well i guess i’m a numbers person then.
although you’re right the entire optical band is somewhat of a mystery, waves or particles? lol but the basic color spectrum is simple, roygbiv
Jesse.M.B wrote:
Alberto wrote:
well, honestly I think it’s no big deal. I mean, you’re color-blind, so you’ve got the chance to see colors in a way normal people don’t! (that’s special).as some have already pointed out. you can experience colors, and then label them; but labels are just that, labels. funnily enough, did you know that in japanese they wouldn’t tell blue apart from green? something blue was “aoi”; something green was “aoi” too! In the same line, some African countries distinguish a huge range of brown and black/grey colors, depending on subtle nuance. Who’s right? Who’s wrong?
No one =)
I’ve honestly never thought of it like that, and I just don’t feel “special” about seeing them differently, but knowing that does make me feel a little different than before.
yeah… it’s funny (okay, there goes an anecdote, if you let me =)) ’cause in the japanese example, they did start using green when in contact with westerners… but they didn’t have much of a word to name such a color. what to do? 1) call it “midori” (meaning grass) and 2) take the word “green” and make up “guriin” as a new word
Rock On m/ wrote:
well i guess i’m a numbers person then.
although you’re right the entire optical band is somewhat of a mystery, waves or particles? lol but the basic color spectrum is simple, roygbiv
mmmm… I’m a numbers guy too lol and I cannot agree with that =) ahaha. what if we hadn’t taken those particular colours as our “reference”? perhaps we could have taken intermediate colours. I think (I’m not an expert at all, and actually I’m making this up while I’m writing…) our perception of tones and our rational mind tends to take these colors becase they are “average values” in bands in the light spectrum, given our tone perception.
but i’m just talking on a logical level,
say i were a television and i were sampling a video signal.
well i have two direct signals to sample, the luma and the chroma.
luma encodes intensity (brightness) on a gray scale level
chroma is color based on VGA signaling which is Red Green Blue
those four singals are able to represent any and all colors in the spectrum
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