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Computer upgrade gone wrong!
Ok people, really could use some help here. Basically, my dad has a fairly old computer (custom build about 2001, still running Pentium 4, 1.5GB DDR RAM, ATA hard disk 80GB) and he plugs the VGA into a graphics card (Radeon 9200) because there is no VGA port on the board. The board is an MSI Intel board. Model- MS-6728 - http://ixbtlabs.com/articles2/roundup... . There is a picture of the input ports that is important.
Now with this being a fairly poorly running computer, my dad asked me to upgrade it using a motherboard that previously was in this (my) computer (an MSI K9N6SGM-V with an AMD processor, single core, 1.6ghz- http://www.superwarehouse.com/MSI_K9N...).
I took out the motherboard from my dad’s computer, and replaced the board with the above no problem and PLUGGED IN the graphics card.
However, upon booting, it showed the motherboard info screen, then came up with a blue screen with a OxOOOOO7B error (there was more code, but can’t remember the 2nd set, but the 3rd and 4th were OxOOOOOOOO) which is a hard disk error. I could get into BIOS, but couldn’t boot in Safe Mode.
Therefore, I thought “stuff it, I’ll put it back to how it was or dad’s gonna moan even more”. So I replaced the board with the original, and put the graphics card in, plugging the VGA cable into it.
Nothing now comes up on the screen, it doesn’t register that there is a VGA plugged in. The graphics card doesn’t work because I think it may have “dropped” the drivers when I plugged it into the other board.
I know the graphics card isn’t broken because I have tried another and get the same result.
I don’t know what to try, and could really use some help.
I also have another question. The PSU is a 350W and says “designed for Intel Pentium 4″. Is it possible my hard drive error before was caused by the PSU not being powerful enough?
metal_guitarist changed the tags on this post: they were "Computers, Motherboard, upgrade" 3 weeks, 2 days ago.
The PSU should be fine if it’s a 9200 for VGA. 9200 uses under twenty watts.
Question, was the OS already on the HDD or is it a new/clean installation?
You basically need to reinstall Windows when you change things like Motherboards, hence the blue screen. You can try to delete the hardware system drivers, but you’d need to be able to boot into Windows to do that.
OS is already on there. And my dad is gonna flip if I tell him I’ve got to do a reinstall :/
Getting the data won’t be a problem, but he won’t be happy. And should I not bother trying a more powerful CPU then?
And you don’t have to reinstall Windows always. When I took the above board out and replaced with a new one for quad-core, I didn’t have to, it all worked fine.
Also forgot to mention, the PSU has a 9 pin connector to the motherboard, yet the “new” board has 12 slots.
and I have put the original board back in, and now I’ve got the above problem of not seeing anything on the screen, which is what the main problem is.
ok if you got 1.5 gig of ram then you are running a 1 gig and a 512 memory chips…. dont
windows dont like this …. and you should always run the memory in pairs… IE two 512 or 2 1 gig chips … not a combonation of both
The op will say you got the right amount but in pratise you wont
take out the 512 and just keep the gig and then see what happends then.
Look, I’m not fussed about the upgrade of the board anymore. I just want to get it back working like it was before.
The problem is, the graphics card which the VGA cable plugs into has “dropped” the drives when I put it on the other board, and now the screen doesn’t show, and the motherboard, because it’s old, has not got a VGA port on it. I need to get on the computer and reinstall the graphics drivers.
and I can’t get on the computer, because I can’t see anything! *sorry if this sounds like ranting*
Your problem is that the new board was amd and not Intel so now the bios is messed up. Put the new board back in and the windows disk into the CD drive. You should be able to boot into the bios and set the default for the vid card. Now you have to reinstall the OS because all of the drivers on the new board are coded different than the old. You should be able to use the repair feature and have it install the new drivers for the board. Get all of the drivers for the new board and put them on a CD using another PC. Install the board drivers for the amd and you should have it. Hope this helps :-)
Urgh, dad’s gonna kill me, but if that’s what’s gotta be done, then it’ll have to be done :/
I’ve got the driver disks from the board, so that’s already taken care of.
I’ll give it a go and let you know how I get on, and I hope it works because dad’s threatening to take my computer if I don’t fix it :/
Cheers for the help
Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having problems with the update, The Clue like always is correct, your BIOS was reading Intel and now it is saying I have intel … wait it is not Intel it is AMD OK setting to AMD … Oh wait I now have Intel, basically what I am trying to say is that it is confused as to what CPU it is using, now each CPU is programmed differently, and now your BIOS has a new program built into it, and the old one gone, so you have to fix this by follwing The Clue’s method. You see, Intel has a more powerful clock speed then AMD but AMD is just as god as Intel because they beat intel in other things, also the BIOS is reading a heat-sink for an AMD which is required because an AMD will go without the heat-sink however Intel won’t go, I hope this will solve the problem. There is other possibilities but we will get into them later on if the above reply does not solve your problem.
Yours sincerely,
Luck of the Irish.
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Typical me overlooking the important part >_
I’ll do it in the morning if I get time, and I’ll let you know how I get on.
Cheers,
Luke :)
Actually, one question. The PSU in there only has a 9-pin connector to the motherboard. The “new” board going in there has a 12-pin socket. Is this likely to have any effect? (Can get hold of a 12-pin PSU if needbe)
Wow how old are those boards? Most boards that run P4 and above use either 20 or 24 pin mother board power supplies with either 4 or 6 pin aux power. If the board has 12 pin then you need to supply the power with a 12 pin connector.
Sorry, I meant as in 12 rows of pins, so yeah 24.
Well yes, it would have an affect, because it would affect the what is on and what is off e.g.
If you take any TTL chip and put an illegal Voltage on it, well then the chip won’t work, it all the diodes and transistors will be reverse biased i.e. will be in the off position, if you have CMOS, then the P-channel will be on when it should be the N-Channel and vice versa. Basically what I am trying to say is that if you don’t have the correct power then your CPU isn’t going to work.
I’ve got the other hard disk in my computer (it’s an ATA) because I need to backup the files as there is stuff on there that CANNOT be lost. But it’s saying it wants to format it. I need to avoid this at all costs. What can I do?
I’m running it as a slave alongside my normal one
Not sure how bad the partition is corrupted. Try getting into it this way. Right click my computer, then go to manage, click on disk management, then look and see what it says about the status of the hdd, if it shows healthy try right clicking on it and select explore, that should open it so that you can get the files out. You will probably have to reformat that hdd afterwords because the boot sector and ini sectors are gone then reinstall the os.
I shall give that a go in the morning. If that doesn’t work, is there any way of getting the data? Because as I said, there is stuff that cannot be lost, e.g. dad’s work, pics of my deceased brother, pics of holidays etc
Theres ways but for you the best way is to go to staples or office max and get a recovery program. It will cost about 20.00 but you can retrieve all of the information that you need from that hdd, just follow the directions and it should work for you. Hope this helps :-)
Would I have to format the hard drive first? And the previous way didn’t work, it just wanted to format it again. It showed healthy by the way.
My parents are really getting on my back on now >:-(
Don’t format it just go and get that program that I mentioned, use it and recover the data then you will have to format it because it is corrupted and needs to be fixed.
Ok, what is the program called?
and I have it now viewing the screen with the old motherboard, but it came up with disk read error.
Your going to have to check with the sales person on which programs you have there available to use. I use partiton commander to restore the ini and boot sectors but they have to be on the original board and functioning when the crash happened. You need a data recovery program that will work while using the hdd as slave, since you cant boot into any board with out formating it. The key is to start new with any board change then use the transfer wizard to move the files from the old hdd to the new hdd it makes this process so much easier and you will always have a backup of the files on the old hdd if you have any problems installing the new board.
I’ve put the old board back in, but I’ve put another hard drive in as the master, and put the original as a slave. I’m sticking XP onto the “new” hard drive and then will boot up and see if I can get hold of the data using your previous tip.
I will then look at getting hold of a recovery program if this doesn’t work.
Ok, run the recovery program, and it’s not got back enough. Most of the crap has come from temporary internet files, but there is picturs, and parent’s work stuff on there which are irreplaceable. Another thing, the hard drive is an 82.3 GB drive. In the recovery, it’s only saying 31GB. I haven’t corrupted it have I?
The recovery program is bringing back stuff from 04/05, but doesn’t seem to be accessing the part of the drive I need to get on.
thats OK run it a couple of times. Post the results so that I can see what its finding. As for you corrupting it, when you put it on the amd board xp was trying to update its drivers then when you put it back on the old board it had no idea what was going on so it deleted the boot sectors the ini files and most of the board drivers causing a major error and loosing sectors on the hdd. The more the recovery program is run the more it will find, have it do a deep recovery which will take at least 4 to 5 hours to complete. It might be able to read the data so that you can recover it.
Think I might need to get a better recovery program then. Run it 3 times, and it’s not bringing up what is needed. Mostly temporary files, and random stuff that’s 4/5 years old that was deleted ages ago. I did a deep recovery and it took about an hour. It just doesn’t seem to access the data. And in the BIOS, and on the computer management page, and on the recovery program, it says the HDD is only 31GB big, when it’s an 82GB drive.
What is the name of the program that your using? I know by experience that loosing information sucks. The thing that you need to do now until you get that information back is get another PC running for your dad and mom so they have one. The thing to remember is that if your going to repair someones PC your responsible to give them one back even if your trying to fix a mistake. You also need to tell them what happened and how your trying to fix it. You never know they might be able to help. just keep trying the deep recovery and it might start getting bits and pieces back. Remember your looking for Documents and settings anything else is useless, those are the files that you want recovered.
It’s a program called RecoverMyFiles. It was the first one I found that does “RAW” hard drives. Dad’s got a work laptop, and my sister and I have computers so they can use them if they want as I go back to college Monday. I’ve attempted to tell them what’s wrong but they are the biggest technological retards I know.
LOL thats ok then at least you tried. That is a good program and it should work. good luck with this :-)
Yeah I’ll keep trying, but as I said, it isn’t actually recovering what I want. It’s saying an 82GB HDD is a 31GB HDD and only seems to be recovering stuff that is years old and deleted. It won’t touch this missing 50GB+ that is the files I need.
Ok, I have it all working. Thanks a lot guys you’ve been brill, message me if you ever need any help at all, I really owe you one.
Thanks
Luke
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