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Illuminati, Freemasons and The New World Order are a pretty interesting topic and I’d really like to hear some of the conspiracy theories.

I know the Pyramid and the All Seeing Eye is on the American money notes. And that the Statue of Liberty was a gift from the French masons to the New York masons (it says so on the plaque). Its full name is actually ‘Liberty Enlightening the World’ (Illuminati means enlightening), she’s holding the ‘Flaming Torch of Reason’, that’s what the illunimati called themselves in the 1700s.
Apparently the American presidents are all part of that “secret” society, which really isn’t that secrets anymore. There was a picture of Obama at his graduation and apparently his handshake is the secret illuminati handshake; Bush shook that way as well. There are picture of high power people throwing the rock sign around, apparently meaning the devil, I found that weird cause they weren’t celebrity rock stars (it was Hillary Clinton and Obama and Bush). The 9/11 attack had something to do with this as well.
Madonna had a jackets with the pyramid on the back, Jay Z and Beyonce are apparently part of it as well (his new cloth line is full of symbols). I’m guessing there are other celebrities also. It’s an interesting topic and I’d like to hear opinions and theories, and just how big people think this whole thing actually is; I mean how much of the world’s governments it’s penetrated. I’m not sure I believe any of it, it might be rubbish talk, but it is interesting.
I know some people get personal and can get into the religious aspect of it with the whole devil worshippers and Satan and all that, but please don’t. If you are going to get into the religious side of it don’t do it here.

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jerichoholic_1 offline Unverified User #
An Unknown Location | 1 month ago (22 minutes after post)

i love conspiracy theories… but I don’t have any that can help you :( sorrryy! but I tooootally want to hear the theories that other people have

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An Unknown Location | 1 month ago (24 minutes after post)

Theories are endless, so I just don’t bother anymore when it comes to that isssue. However, I know that these organizations are out there and that their plans are not good.

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An Unknown Location | 1 month ago (2 hours, 3 minutes after post)

You can find whole websites devoted to the nut jobs that believe in this stuff so you likely will only get rehash comments here. However, before you get sucked into believing any of it, try to have a critical mind about it all — which it seems like you already do. First, some of the more alarmist individuals believe these groups are trying to create a single world government, reduce the population and concentrate power among an elite group of intellectuals and monied people. This is often overlaid with religious hysteria and Christian fears of the anti-Christ and millennialist who see signs of the ‘end times’ unfolding as laid out in the book of Revelation. The conspiracy idea is being pushed by individuals who feel powerless. They see their control slipping due to demographic changes (namely angry white men, southern and western US), and economic changes buffeting them through globalization. It is an intellectually lazy way to blame others. Basically, a manufactured boogey man.

The problem with their argument is fundamentally one of logic. A few (of many problems): Why on earth would a group of people who supposedly get rich off the masses want to wipe out billions of people from whom they derive wealth.

Secondly, google Occam’s razor. This is the idea that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one for a given situation. conspiracy almost never pan out because the involvement of more than 2 people in anything almost uniformly results in one of the conspirators selling out the others for gain.

Finally its an issue of numbers. Let’s imagine that 1/1000 of 1% of the US population is ‘in the know” Well, that’s still 3000 people. 750 if you cut out folks under say 21. What’s the likelihood of 750 people keeping a secret, or managing to coordinate and agree on a strategy over such a long period of time without some disagreement occurring that led to a internecine rupture or split. I mean the US Congress of 535 people can barely agree on lunch.

I will grant that a small percentage of people probably control the levers of power through world society - financial, political, academic, etc… What doesn’t hold water is that these groups work in concert with one another and have a master plan. Power is too diffuse and spread over different overlapping and intersecting areas.

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1 month ago (8 hours, 7 minutes after post)

I don’t think it’s a secret society anymore if you have celebrities flaunting it. Or maybe they’re just trying to revive something that died a while ago. The illuminati were a group of scientists that the church rejected cause of their teachings (I read Angels and Demons). I’m not sure that that’s true. Or that they still do exists now. But that was a hell of a book.
Freemasons I’m not too sure about, it’s supposed to be the elite groups of society. Not sure how they started and what their goals are today but I mean if the statue plaque does say it’s a gift from the masons then I guess they did exist. Rockefeller played a big role with regards to the society.
A lot of people do take it over the top and some stories might be ridiculous, but they sure are fascinating.

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