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If god does exist what is the point of him…

. HE DOES NOTHING..

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WritetheHeroine offline Verified User (4 years, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (11 minutes after post)

I don’t believe that god does exist, but I feel that if he did it wouldn’t necessarily be for a purpose but rather he created us for some kind of experiment to see how be reacted to things like tragedy and stress and how we use reason and imagination. If you’ve ever seen the movie The Dark Knight the Joker kind of does social experiment to prove what humanity is like. I’m not suggesting that god is a villain or anything. They would both observe reactions from people and other life on earth.

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (20 minutes after post)

whether He exists or not isn’t of much importance to me.
But for people who do believe in a God the idea of it often lends them strength during hard times. Furthermore even the concept of a heaven and hell might push people into making the right decision in moral situations.
In that respect, i believe not necessarily the existence of God, but the concept of him/Her is a good thing.

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (23 minutes after post)

Well that’s not very nice. If that’s the way you think about things, then what is the point of you, or me? What do we even do on the cosmological scale? Nothing. Just because something exists, doesn’t mean it needs to have a purpose for existing… Maybe god’s just lazy.

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (25 minutes after post)

Rosa Chinensis wrote:
Well that’s not very nice. If that’s the way you think about things, then what is the point of you, or me? What do we even do on the cosmological scale? Nothing. Just because something exists, doesn’t mean it needs to have a purpose for existing… Maybe god’s just lazy.

haha, love this response! true, if he created everything don’t you think he’s done enuf? wat have u or any1 else done that u can even compare to that? :L

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (38 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
@rosa and iam..u don’t make any sense..I didn’t ask the come here…they said god is so magnificent……well if he is so powerful why do he do nothing

what i was saying is that for the idea of God being there give a lot of people hope during bad times in their lives.

If he is an all powerful being as he is depicted, and he were to decide on everything that happens, we’d just be puppets on strings. Our existence would already be set in stone. just going by the bible, god’s greatest gift to man was free will, the ability to make our own choices so that we can live our lives as we see fit. He gave us our freedom. If he were to act out at every bad thing that happens we would never learn or have any choice over our decisions, as they wouldn’t be our decisions to make.

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (48 minutes after post)

Heh heh, easy one… Let me clear this up for all you mortals,

In the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was GOD

Funnily enough the bible has one good bit of useful information. Right at the start. God is language. It means we are two seperate entities in a single manifestation; a human body and a languaging mind. Due to a step-change in evolution and Bill Hicksian awareness.

Your question is self-referential therefore, as is our experience of life and all our dreams. I think therefore I am, ‘I’ am the only thing I can prove is not a hallucination, therefore I am god. What is my purpose? Who the …. knows. Enjoy. Mr God.

Ironically the bible got it right (King James version - cos there were some clever arses writing it in nice english, they were intelligencia and probably used that first line as a bit of fun since nobody would truly understand it without watching something like an episode of House or ‘2001 a space odyssey’)

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (52 minutes after post)

2scorpio9 wrote:
Heh heh, easy one… Let me clear this up for all you mortals,

You’re not a mortal?!?!?! GOLLY GOSH THATS AMAZING!

but anonymous, his point is he was the creator, he gave you the gift of life. What more should you ask for? He’s already given you everything you have. What makes you think he should do special things for humans when we act like a swarm of locusts on the planet. His purpose is to create, which he has done. Now it’s up to you to decide your purpose.

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (1 hour, 5 minutes after post)

to be completely honest, i do not know! haha, i think it’s better not knowing though…
you just have to live life to the fullest in any way you can i think, and hope that there’s something beyond death. In the event that there’s not though, means out time in existence is short, so better make the most of your life just in case :)

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (1 hour, 8 minutes after post)

iamagermancalledherm wrote:

2scorpio9 wrote:
Heh heh, easy one… Let me clear this up for all you mortals,

You’re not a mortal?!?!?! GOLLY GOSH THATS AMAZING!

but anonymous, his point is he was the creator, he gave you the gift of life. What more should you ask for? He’s already given you everything you have. What makes you think he should do special things for humans when we act like a swarm of locusts on the planet. His purpose is to create, which he has done. Now it’s up to you to decide your purpose.

Indeed Herm, my contribution to the word is immortal. As is yours. And agreed, your view is relevant, eminently moreso than the use of marketing and advertising to control the word. However, we are not locusts. We are ‘God’s’ creatures. Not an infestation but a manifestation. On a spiritual note (’god moves in mysterious ways’)… perhaps humans are here to create fire and release the buried carbon - essential for the breathing of the green ecosystem - that had been fossilized into the earth from the atmosphere by trees (coal) and plankton (oil). Ever think about that? ;) Check the historical CO2 ppm… now is the lowest in the history of the planet. The green planet is in a very gradual death spiral without some intelligent intervention.

Basic chemistry and photosynthesis. Perhaps ‘Gaia’ has a plan beyond our mortal pride of self-worship???

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (1 hour, 23 minutes after post)

ah go on, i don;t think you can really argue we’ve had a more positive impact on the plant than negative.

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2 years, 2 months ago (1 hour, 24 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
@rosa and iam..u don’t make any sense..I didn’t ask the come here…they said god is so magnificent……well if he is so powerful why do he do nothing

What would you like him to do?

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (1 hour, 30 minutes after post)

I feel like ur making posts for attention now ANON…

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (1 hour, 33 minutes after post)

ok u just changed ur ip why?

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An Undisclosed Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (1 hour, 34 minutes after post)

…there are two of you aren’t there…

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (1 hour, 39 minutes after post)

Having said all of that, Anonymous, I broadly agree with your original sentiment. As long as a belief system is not foisted upon people. As long as fear of pergatory is not used to control people. In plainer terms you are talking about a belief system to explain our - frankly - bewildering experince of life. Thereby making it a more comfortable and meaningful experience.

I found comfort in Friedrich Schlegel’s ‘the irony of nature with man as a victim’:

(wo)man is a finite being striving to comprehend an infinite - and hence incomprehesible - universe’

We are mortal and not equipped to understand the infinite. We should not try. We should make the experience of living as easy as possible for all people and life with out torment and with social justice. ‘It’s just a ride’ (Bill Hicks). Do unto others as you would have done unto you. etc. God only knows why the American Christian faith teaches/preaches along with the old testament when the ‘new testament’ is supposed to be the Christian teaching. And the man JC says about the old testament ‘take not an eye for an eye… etc. etc. ‘

What I am saying is we only have a duty to each other. Let’s make it a good ride, for everyone.

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2 years, 2 months ago (2 hours, 15 minutes after post)

]I feel like ur making posts for attention now ANON…[/quote wrote:

]ok u just changed ur ip why?

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…there are two of you aren’t there…

Wow, you do realize there could actually be two different anons on the same post … the anon who made the post has the blue and grey coloured symbol and I am the other anon (with the pink and purple coloured one)

We’re two different people … hence, two different pics

That’s why when I asked

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Anonymous wrote:
@rosa and iam..u don’t make any sense..I didn’t ask the come here…they said god is so magnificent……well if he is so powerful why do he do nothing

What would you like him to do?

The OP anon replied:

[quote Anonymous wrote:
Stop allowing innocent people to get hurt. But allow nothing to happen to those who do wrong constantly

It’s really not that hard to figure out!

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2 years, 2 months ago (2 hours, 18 minutes after post)

Ok, the quote thing is messed up …

But to answer you, nameless (umm you don’t have a name beside your avatar)

Point is there are two different anons here … there’s the OP (who is anon) and me (a completely different anon.)

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An Unknown Location | 2 years, 2 months ago (2 hours, 23 minutes after post)

I understand why you would ask (If God exist what’s the point of him?) That’s a good question, and too many people it seems he does nothing. Hopefully some of the responses and viewpoints on this site will be helpful to you. If you are truly looking for a clear and concise Scriptural point of view try doing the following; go to www.watchtower.org. Then go to the upper right corner of the page the click on publications, scroll down to the aid entitled “What Does the Bible Really Teach” click on it. I think you will find chapters one “What is the truth about God” and chapter 11 “Why Does God Allow Suffering?” very informative. Even if you are not a religious person, or perhaps don’t find the information to your liking, at least you will have explored another possible explanation to your question. If you happen to like what you read try going to the Index on that site it explores a lot of other topics that you might find interesting. I hope it is as helpful to you as it has been to me. Take care! :)

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