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.Eli. offline Verified User (3 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 7 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (2 minutes after post)

Stop it how exactly? Same way as in Libya? Same as Somalia? Same as Iraq? Same as Afghanistan? None of those plans worked, foreign intervention only caused massive civillian deaths.

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lazy offline Verified User (5 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (6 minutes after post)

.Eli. wrote:
Stop it how exactly? Same way as in Libya? Same as Somalia? Same as Iraq? Same as Afghanistan? None of those plans worked, foreign intervention only caused massive civillian deaths.

Humanitarian organizations and international community pressure has been the only thing that’s managed save some of the lives of conscious prisoners & other forms of political opposition in Syria in the past 4 decades.

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.Eli. offline Verified User (3 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 7 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (13 minutes after post)

Well, Islamic countries can ignore all of the pressure and rage in respons with whines about religious/ethnical descrimination, that’s what they do generally when pressured.
People choose to stay there voluntarily. How difficult it is to listen to common sense - if the government gone screwed up and a major conflict is about to happen - leave the country. You can leave the country with closed borders and where military curfew is in effect, it’s not difficult. But for some reason they decide to stay.
They stay, they burn police vehicles and throw rocks at policemen. Government bombards them. That’s what you get for doing an uprising in a muslim country. Want to live differently - move.

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lazy offline Verified User (5 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (14 minutes after post)

.Eli. wrote:
Well, Islamic countries can ignore all of the pressure and rage in respons with whines about religious/ethnical descrimination, that’s what they do generally when pressured.
People choose to stay there voluntarily. How difficult it is to listen to common sense - if the government gone screwed up and a major conflict is about to happen - leave the country. You can leave the country with closed borders and where military curfew is in effect, it’s not difficult. But for some reason they decide to stay.
They stay, they burn police vehicles and throw rocks at policemen. Government bombards them. That’s what you get for doing an uprising in a muslim country. Want to live differently - move.

Good night, Eli, have a good evening (:

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.Eli. offline Verified User (3 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 7 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (16 minutes after post)

Thanks, you too.

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lazy offline Verified User (5 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (28 minutes after post)

Daft Puck wrote:
Done.

THANKS, good night :D much love

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Dr. Jackson offline Verified User (5 years) Long Term User Shouts: 43 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (31 minutes after post)

Is it the right of anyone outside of Syria to petition their government? I wouldn’t like it if someone in China helped decide the fate of America.

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Dr. Ralph offline Verified User (4 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (39 minutes after post)

Maybe we should petition Obama to not enforce the “no fly zone” over there, like we are the world’s cops. If it was a Republican president the press would be raising hell.

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Sans offline Verified User (5 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years ago (5 hours, 36 minutes after post)

I signed the petition. Thanks for the invite.

Dr. Ralph wrote:
Maybe we should petition Obama to not enforce the “no fly zone” over there, like we are the world’s cops. If it was a Republican president the press would be raising hell.

The no-fly zone is in Libya. And as I recall the press was all gung-ho in 2003 when Bush invaded Iraq on false pretenses. Of course the press was complicit and then gave him a ton of grief afterward.

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-q- offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (7 hours, 13 minutes after post)

it’s Done.

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Jalex offline Verified User (4 years) Long Term User Shouts: 5 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (11 hours, 2 minutes after post)

Done. I was action number 1362 :)

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lazy offline Verified User (5 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (11 hours, 26 minutes after post)

Thank you so very much everyone who signed or is going to… Love y’all loads :)

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lazy offline Verified User (5 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (11 hours, 48 minutes after post)

I think I’ve suddenly decided to answer you guys

.Eli. wrote:
Well, Islamic countries can ignore all of the pressure and rage in respons with whines about religious/ethnical descrimination, that’s what they do generally when pressured.
People choose to stay there voluntarily. How difficult it is to listen to common sense - if the government gone screwed up and a major conflict is about to happen - leave the country. You can leave the country with closed borders and where military curfew is in effect, it’s not difficult. But for some reason they decide to stay.
They stay, they burn police vehicles and throw rocks at policemen. Government bombards them. That’s what you get for doing an uprising in a muslim country. Want to live differently - move.

1. The Syrian regime is supposedly socialist, not islamic. Syria is not an “Islamic country” and there has never been such fear of being discriminated against based on religion or ethnicity. The fact that we live right next to a country built on the remains of an ethnic/religious genocide against the country that used to be where it now is does not mean that we mistake Israel for any other country. In case you plan to accuse anyone of discriminating against Israelis, I think people know the difference between a regime and a people. Our regime does not represent us and the Israeli regime cannot possibly represent all Israelis. When our regime is usually pressured, it releases the political prisoners in question, tones down its violence, and then points fingers at opposition for being “agents for America” and at the international community for siding with Israel, just so you know our regime’s usual reactions for next time :)

2. SOME people choose to stay there voluntarily. Hundreds of thousands of Kurds have had no right even to have a nationality at all for the past 4 decades, they don’t even have a proper ID to get a job with, let alone leave the country ever. Opposition members who have somehow survived prison, torture and/or assassination also don’t have the right to leave the country. The many who want to leave the country are faced with the regime’s corruption not letting them have enough money at any given point of time to leave the country, and then faced by a million no’s when trying to get a visa to go ANYWHERE. The rest who want to stay in Syria probably do because it’s their home and they love it, and they probably believe that it’s the people from the inside who can change the situation if ever. Some feel unable to change it but particularly those people’s sons and daughters are the ones out on the streets right now, and they’re being shot at.

Dr. Jackson wrote:
Is it the right of anyone outside of Syria to petition their government? I wouldn’t like it if someone in China helped decide the fate of America.

Yes, it is officially your right to say you are against the regime killing people in Syria, if you want. If you do, it will help stop the killing. That’s a fact. You are free to say anything you want. Amnesty International is an international, independent, non for profit humanitarian organization. International is for everyone helping everyone else on earth because we’re all humans, independent is for no governments whatsoever involved as in absolute neutrality, non for profit as in the sole goal is for humans to support other humans, humanitarian is for the support being so that there be more humane people than the inhumane, and organization because it is organized and has its power, credibility and impact on people and governments, particularly the inhumane ones.

Thank you

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lazy offline Verified User (5 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (11 hours, 52 minutes after post)

oh and, the protests have made the regime make many reforms that we never thought would happen, but the one reform it has yet to make is to become humane. If you feel you have no idea what is going on in Syria and yet find yourself on this post explaining to me what reality is, please check my previous post with many good links to comprehensive updates in English, or at least check #SYRIA on twitter.

Thanks luvluv

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lazy offline Verified User (5 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 2 years ago (11 hours, 54 minutes after post)

sorry not the one reform, actually all the reforms it made were fake. so yeah basically apparently we just need a new regime. maybe that’s why the tens of thousands of protesters have been chanting “The people wants to topple the regime” for a month now.

And thanks again, Puck, Sans, Anon & Jalex :D

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Coolbruv offline Verified User (4 years) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years ago (14 hours, 8 minutes after post)

Signed the petition! Let’s put some pressure on the Syrian regime!

And Eli, I can’t believe you’re at it again! One, people comparing so-called ‘Islamic’ countries to so-called ‘Civilized Western’ ones are ignorant. The laws in these countries are not ‘Islamic or Shari’a based’, they are laws that have been interpreted and put in place to empower the rulers over their populations and then subsequently labelled Islamic (by regime-backed religious ’scholars’) so that the general population is deceived into following the laws on religious grounds.

And might I remind you that the only reason these oppressive laws exist in the first place is because ‘Civilized Western’ colonial powers gave the Middle Eastern dictators authority to rule, once these colonial powers had completed their brutal occupation. To add to that, the modern-day West has backed these dictators and their so-called ‘governments’ every step of the way!

Look back at history and then realize that the East wouldn’t be such a mess were it not for colonization by the West!

Secondly, it isn’t that easy to just move! Do you seriously want whole countries/regions to just get up and relocate to another jurisdiction?? Even if you look at it from the individuals’ perspective, it isn’t that easy to move when you have to leave behind all of your relatives, your house, your possessions, etc (especially when you have lived their for your entire life). And where are they going to go?? The West won’t accept them if they don’t have the correct documentation! Other countries in the region (ie across the border are in just as much trouble!) And illegal migrants barely have a life, no matter where they go … because people are too selfish to realize the situation these people might have faced in their home countries, plus they have no legal status in the country!

Making random generic comments like they should ‘just move’ is nothing more than irrational and SILLY!

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Coolbruv offline Verified User (4 years) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 2 years ago (14 hours, 18 minutes after post)

Dr. Jackson wrote:
Is it the right of anyone outside of Syria to petition their government? I wouldn’t like it if someone in China helped decide the fate of America.

You would if the American government had imposed emergency rule for the last 40 years or more, prevented the creation of other political parties let alone holding regular elections, and then violently suppressed protesters in opposition to its illegitimate rule. You would plead that person in China to petition against your government!

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chrisuksmit offline Verified User (1 year, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 10 months ago (2 months, 4 weeks after post)

Indeed, signing petitions for other people seems to a bit wierd.

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lazy offline Verified User (5 years, 6 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 9 months ago (3 months after post)

that must be why the whole world is doing it.

chrisuksmit wrote:
Indeed, signing petitions for other people seems to a bit wierd.

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Sans offline Verified User (5 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 9 months ago (3 months after post)

chrisuksmit wrote:
Indeed, signing petitions for other people seems to a bit wierd.

The world is now a community. This conversation is proof that. So I don’t thing it’s weird at all for us to be concerned and take an active role in petitioning a repressive government to change. On the other hand, I believe that every country should have the right of self-determination without any other country forcing their will on it. In this case, it’s clear that the will of the people is freedom from a dictatorial leader.

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