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this got old yesterday. btw that’s if he’s actually dead. i’d lean towards lies, it’s not like you’d know the difference anyway.

i am happpy…amen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not believing everything you’re told doesn’t make you a pessimist. i rather like thinking for myself. :)

nope god is not removed.

i’m happy he’s dead. at least the idea of osama being officially dead has been needed for a long time. :)

i wish people would stop celebrating death. he was a man who did terrible things but celebrating his death makes people as bad as he was.

be content and move on.

i don’t see why they shouldn’t celebrate it. because we can go on all day about morality, but seriously, f**k that guy.

;)

osama: gloated over the 2,752 victims of 9/11 (including 343 firefighters and 60 policemen who tried to rescue victims)
us: celebrating the death of a mass murder

2,752 innocents =?= 1 mass murderer

just as bad?

Bond…Ozy Bond wrote:
nope god is not removed.

i’m happy he’s dead. at least the idea of osama being officially dead has been needed for a long time. :)

well I guess now that Hussain is dead and bin laden is dead the u.s. can leave
Iraq now??

if only, spiratec9.

The Iraq war has killed almost 1 million people out of 25 million.

lmao, yea, took long enough

spiratec9 wrote:
The Iraq war has killed almost 1 million people out of 25 million.

where did you get that figure?

Osama Bin Laden’s Birth and Death Tapestries
http://tinyurl.com/JDC-osama

Interesting that in his Birth Tapestry is the prediction “Pertaining to deep darkness and the fifth” because May is the firth month.

I don’t think he is really Him,I think its someone who look like him,and is givin us,to think that his died..!

the body was confirmed as a match by DNA. they’re not that dumb.

Bond…Ozy Bond wrote:
the body was confirmed as a match by DNA. they’re not that dumb.

lmao

Bond…Ozy Bond wrote:
osama: gloated over the 2,752 victims of 9/11 (including 343 firefighters and 60 policemen who tried to rescue victims)
us: celebrating the death of a mass murder

2,752 innocents =?= 1 mass murderer

just as bad?

makes you as low as him. they way america is acting will only provoke the al queda (sp?) further. its shameful how they are cheering his death. what he did was terrible but what people are doing, celebrating death, is just as wrong.

i disagree. his death was a symbolic victory for the united states. no body celebrating that night delights in evil, but they do appreciate a part of the war or terror to be put to a grave. now the rest of it can end (hopefully).

as mark twain said:
“I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.”

Bond…Ozy Bond wrote:
i disagree. his death was a symbolic victory for the united states. no body celebrating that night delights in evil, but they do appreciate a part of the war or terror to be put to a grave. now the rest of it can end (hopefully).

as mark twain said:
“I’ve never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.”

the war on terror isnt over. its becoming provoked, i wouldnt be surprised if things become worse they way america is blasting celebrations down the streets and on the news.

of course it isn’t over. the war on terror isn’t over. because as long as you have extremists believing it is righteous to kill thousands of innocent civilians, you will have people fighting against them.

america isn’t allowed to celebrate a victory? i don’t think it’s going to get any worse, honestly. america was the country OBL was most significant to. many muslims worldwide also have celebrated his death. he was probably more of a burden to the al-Queda than an asset at this point anyway.

Bond…Ozy Bond wrote:
of course it isn’t over. the war on terror isn’t over. because as long as you have extremists believing it is righteous to kill thousands of innocent civilians, you will have people fighting against them.

america isn’t allowed to celebrate a victory? i don’t think it’s going to get any worse, honestly. america was the country OBL was most significant to. many muslims worldwide also have celebrated his death. he was probably more of a burden to the al-Queda than an asset at this point anyway.

you call death a victory?

it is good that he’s gone, he did terrible things for terrible reasons. but fireworks and parties on the streets and the news is a very poor way to honour the victims of terrorism.

it is something to be content with, not to cheer and jeer.

yes, sometimes a death is a victory.
mission: kill OBL
results: OBL dead
victory! it’s pretty simple.

we’ve been honoring the victims of 9/11 for ten years. one day of celebration doesn’t undo that. -_-

Bond…Ozy Bond wrote:
yes, sometimes a death is a victory.
mission: kill OBL
results: OBL dead
victory! it’s pretty simple.

we’ve been honoring the victims of 9/11 for ten years. one day of celebration doesn’t undo that. -_-

its a shame you think that way. no wonder america is in such bad shape.

you have yet to convince me there’s any reason to think differently.

people like OBL have no place in this world. if you want to go on about the value of all life, i simply call bullsh1t. some people choose to throw theirs away. his death is a consequence of the choices he made in this life. good riddance.

The big question is what will happen next. I don’t believe the troops will be leaving anytime soon.

claytorre wrote:
The big question is what will happen next. I don’t believe the troops will be leaving anytime soon.

i wish they would. :P
but we’ve been wanting that for so long.

Bond…Ozy Bond wrote:
you have yet to convince me there’s any reason to think differently.

people like OBL have no place in this world. if you want to go on about the value of all life, i simply call bullsh1t. some people choose to throw theirs away. his death is a consequence of the choices he made in this life. good riddance.

and what do you think the consequence of such inappropriate celebration will be? hmm?

claytorre wrote:
The big question is what will happen next. I don’t believe the troops will be leaving anytime soon.

they wont be… its too bad.

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and what do you think the consequence of such inappropriate celebration will be? hmm?

well the USA stock market increased.
world leaders such as Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, President Nicolas Sarkozy, British Prime Minister David Cameron, and German Chancellor Angela Merkel all express satisfaction with the death.

many middle eastern and muslim spokespeople say that the death of OBL is a blessing
“Getting rid of bin Laden is good for the cause of peace worldwide but what counts is to overcome the discourse and the methods — the violent methods — that were created and encouraged by bin Laden and others in the world,” Palestinian Authority (PA) spokesman Ghassan Khatib is quoted by Reuters as saying.

the Hamas is angry and promises revenge.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari speaks out against terrorism and is relieved at the announced death.
Saudi Arabia King Abdullah Bin Abdul-Aziz expresses his hope that the death will aid the effort against terrorism
Afghan President Hamid Karzai says that the war on terror is not in Afghanistan and calls for an end to the war in his country.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari:
“We, like many people in the world, are delighted to see an end to his mentality and his devious ideology… Iraqis suffered a great deal at the hands of this man and his terrorist organization. Thousands of Iraqis were murdered and killed because of his ideologies. We as Iraqis have suffered enormously as a result of Al Qaeda and its leader.”

Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood condemns the killing as an assassination. It says it condemns violence in general and had wanted a fair trial.

“We woke up in a safer world,” said Jerzy Buzek, the president of the European Union Parliament.

“Al-Qaida has metastasized over the past decade into a decentralized organization — something almost akin to a franchise operation. With bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, subject to intense manhunts, semi-independent affiliate groups in places like Iraq, Somalia and Yemen have proved more deadly in recent years than al-Qaida central.

That suggests that al-Qaida relies less on bin Laden’s personality cult than it did in its early years, analysts say. But the splinter groups, while still a major threat, have also been unable to pull off attacks of the scale that made al-Qaida a dominant security concern for the U.S. and its allies in the first place.

Even as al-Qaida prepares retaliatory attacks — and, doubtless, a propaganda campaign that will seek to elevate bin Laden into martyrdom — the group’s fear factor, which dogged the West and thrilled some in the Muslim world, may diminish.

…But, he says, while al-Qaida may not present quite the same threat it once did, it remains a serious problem. “We have thought they were marginalized before, but they always came back with attacks,” Fontaine says.

‘This is not the defeat of al-Qaida,’ he says. ‘It’s not going away. It’s still the No. 1 security threat because of these franchise groups.’” -www.npr.org

“The Americans have previously killed other Islamists leaders… Their students will continue the jihad and we shall retaliate against the Americans, Israel, Europe and Christians in Somalia with destructive explosions and other acts that will harm them.” — Mohamed Asman Arus, spokesman for al-Shabab, Somalia’s most dangerous militant group.

so there’s a mixed response from around the world about the death of OBL. yes, some extremists are angry, but i don’t think the threat of terrorism has increased significantly. only time will tell. many people are glad for the death of OBL, and i don’t see how the celebrations of americans would be any more incentive for the al-qaida to attack than say, the invasion of their homelands, which we’ve been into for years.

anOzymous wrote:

⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ wrote:
and what do you think the consequence of such inappropriate celebration will be? hmm?

well the USA stock market increased.
world leaders such as Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, President Nicolas Sarkozy, British Prime Minister David Cameron, and German Chancellor Angela Merkel all express satisfaction with the death.

many middle eastern and muslim spokespeople say that the death of OBL is a blessing
“Getting rid of bin Laden is good for the cause of peace worldwide but what counts is to overcome the discourse and the methods — the violent methods — that were created and encouraged by bin Laden and others in the world,” Palestinian Authority (PA) spokesman Ghassan Khatib is quoted by Reuters as saying.

the Hamas is angry and promises revenge.

Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari speaks out against terrorism and is relieved at the announced death.
Saudi Arabia King Abdullah Bin Abdul-Aziz expresses his hope that the death will aid the effort against terrorism
Afghan President Hamid Karzai says that the war on terror is not in Afghanistan and calls for an end to the war in his country.

Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari:
“We, like many people in the world, are delighted to see an end to his mentality and his devious ideology… Iraqis suffered a great deal at the hands of this man and his terrorist organization. Thousands of Iraqis were murdered and killed because of his ideologies. We as Iraqis have suffered enormously as a result of Al Qaeda and its leader.”

Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood condemns the killing as an assassination. It says it condemns violence in general and had wanted a fair trial.

“We woke up in a safer world,” said Jerzy Buzek, the president of the European Union Parliament.

“Al-Qaida has metastasized over the past decade into a decentralized organization — something almost akin to a franchise operation. With bin Laden and his top deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, subject to intense manhunts, semi-independent affiliate groups in places like Iraq, Somalia and Yemen have proved more deadly in recent years than al-Qaida central.

That suggests that al-Qaida relies less on bin Laden’s personality cult than it did in its early years, analysts say. But the splinter groups, while still a major threat, have also been unable to pull off attacks of the scale that made al-Qaida a dominant security concern for the U.S. and its allies in the first place.

Even as al-Qaida prepares retaliatory attacks — and, doubtless, a propaganda campaign that will seek to elevate bin Laden into martyrdom — the group’s fear factor, which dogged the West and thrilled some in the Muslim world, may diminish.

…But, he says, while al-Qaida may not present quite the same threat it once did, it remains a serious problem. “We have thought they were marginalized before, but they always came back with attacks,” Fontaine says.

‘This is not the defeat of al-Qaida,’ he says. ‘It’s not going away. It’s still the No. 1 security threat because of these franchise groups.’” -www.npr.org

“The Americans have previously killed other Islamists leaders… Their students will continue the jihad and we shall retaliate against the Americans, Israel, Europe and Christians in Somalia with destructive explosions and other acts that will harm them.” — Mohamed Asman Arus, spokesman for al-Shabab, Somalia’s most dangerous militant group.

so there’s a mixed response from around the world about the death of OBL. yes, some extremists are angry, but i don’t think the threat of terrorism has increased significantly. only time will tell. many people are glad for the death of OBL, and i don’t see how the celebrations of americans would be any more incentive for the al-qaida to attack than say, the invasion of their homelands, which we’ve been into for years.

increased, no. decreased? i doubt it. but the point isnt what will happen in the future. the problem is, america is acting shamefully. cheering death of enemies is what OBL did on his attacks. now you do the same? doesnt make you better than he.

well i personally didn’t cheer. i really don’t care all that much and i have better things to do. but i think that expecting people to NOT cheer when the man responsible for the biggest terrorist attack in american history has been killed after a 10 year long manhunt is unrealistic. we aren’t stoics.

and i thought you just said that the point WAS what will happen in the future, since you just asked me what the results of our actions would be. you’ve acknowledged that the threat of terrorism has most likely not increased. i don’t see the problem. people are people. but americans aren’t killing people in their celebrations, and they’re not the only people celebrating.

anOzymous wrote:
well i personally didn’t cheer. i really don’t care all that much and i have better things to do. but i think that expecting people to NOT cheer when the man responsible for the biggest terrorist attack in american history has been killed after a 10 year long manhunt is unrealistic. we aren’t stoics.

and i thought you just said that the point WAS what will happen in the future, since you just asked me what the results of our actions would be. you’ve acknowledged that the threat of terrorism has most likely not increased. i don’t see the problem. people are people. but americans aren’t killing people in their celebrations, and they’re not the only people celebrating.

but Americans are the target, thus the ones who need to be careful.

i was watching a documentary last night about a group that works with Al Queda, north west of Kabul I think? A man traveled with a man called Khan who is assumed to be the head honcho etc, and they were talking about the recent events and America. It’s brutal. The group is local so they aren’t involved directly in overseas attacks but they they keep their area clear of “infidels” etc etc. It was sort of scary to watch actually, because they control all the surrounding villages and train the children into their group. the man (i wish i remembered his name but it was very long with a lot of m’s and j’s and it was 2am :S) wasnt allowed to film the children but he got snapshots of 9 year old kids, even younger, with machine guns over their shoulders or aimed at each other. They played part of a radio show, aired to rile up these people and AQ against America, and because the two groups are partners they lend soldiers and weapons to each other all the time (apparently most weapons are supplied by iran? which was odd) so i can’t ever see this war of terrorism ending anytime soon.

i think the story is on cbs online, if i find the link i’ll post it, it was very interesting.

(just saying all this because it was relevant to the topic and found it interesting lol)