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I don’t think it’s hatred that is promoted–it’s caution. Hating Satan does little good. He is above our power to harm. But to resist Satan, we have to be aware of who he is, and what powers he possesses . . . and we must continually be on our guard.

so, I am assuming you are from a semetic religion, can you love satan but be on your guard? should you not love everything your God created, and do you believe your God created everything (satan included)?in other religions they accept “destroyers” as part of the natural process, not something to be abhoured

all religions are a symbol of a compilation of mankinds desires needs wants and hopes, god did not make religion, you did. you kill in a name of a god you neither understand nor truely worship, he is a god you have made out of your own image. your real god is waiting in the shadow for your asent into awareness.

They are no more misguided than any other religion. And I don’t think they necessarily “hate” the devil, they try to focus more on the positives.

“once you accept hatred at the core of your moral compass you then become easy to manipulate”
You could turn what you said to be about many things. If I don’t like mean people, for example, that doesn’t mean my core is hatred. And it has practically nothing to do with morality. I can be a good person while still not liking something.

“if you hate satan, all I’ve got to do to get you to harm anyone is to convince you they are on satan’s side. this is how the suicide bombers are being create, and how religious zeolots have been manipulated sincethe beginnings of these religions”

…Only if the people are crazy. Some people think Im possed by the devil, but they arent´t just going to go blow people/me up because of it.

Religion was created for humans by humans. Humans always need an enemy, when there is no enemy humans start to self destruct. So for the greater stability and to be more appealing an enemy was introduced into the religion.
IMHO religion should be left in the past like slavery, class division in society, feudalism and similar stuff. Instead of keeping society whole it’s just being a major source of headache for the world.

I believed that “hatred” is not the keyword when it comes to satan. It seems like “reject” is a more suitable term. The rejection of all that is evil.

OK, but evil is subjective. so if i am about to do something you regard as “evil” what lengths would you go to to stop me?

Anonymous wrote:
OK, but evil is subjective. so if i am about to do something you regard as “evil” what lengths would you go to to stop me?

For evil to be subjective, you need to have your morality inverted. There is no lesser or greater evil. Evil is evil and good is good. There are no in betweens. With regards to what lengths would I go to stop you from doing something evil, i will just do up to the what i can. Anything above my capacity, I cannot do.

Anonymous wrote:
OK, but evil is subjective. so if i am about to do something you regard as “evil” what lengths would you go to to stop me?

my mom was subjective when she was wondering wether to beat the crap out of me or my brother when i was a kid, old mans belt time and it was always me. i still love her.

no, I disagree - the concept of evil is subjective. if you kill a child, that’s evil right? what if the child would grow to be Adolf Hitler?

Anonymous wrote:
no, I disagree - the concept of evil is subjective. if you kill a child, that’s evil right? what if the child would grow to be Adolf Hitler?

i feel sorry for hitler, i wish i could go back and raise him, but would i also go back and kill him in 39?. yes, probably.

if you kill a child, sure that is evil. if the child grow to be adolf hitler then killing him is still evil.

so keeping Hitler alive, knowing what the result of that action would be…is good?

DJT wrote:
if you kill a child, sure that is evil. if the child grow to be adolf hitler then killing him is still evil.

killing you would not bother me, it’s the knowing i have the power to do it that disrupts my sleep. is a wasp evil for killing a fly?

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DJT wrote:
if you kill a child, sure that is evil. if the child grow to be adolf hitler then killing him is still evil.

killing you would not bother me, it’s the knowing i have the power to do it that disrupts my sleep. is a wasp evil for killing a fly?

i think its not rational to use insects analogy because they do not possess the intelligence the human have and basically wasp doesn’t kill another wasp right?, they kill for their food. oh no, my mind is mess up.. jebus!! hahahah

Anonymous wrote:
so keeping Hitler alive, knowing what the result of that action would be…is good?

Your actions is only limited to the scope of your capacity. Did you know before that that child will kill thousands upon thousands? of course you didn’t know not unless you’re some kind of psychic. As for killing hitler after he killed thousand upon thousands of people, it is still evil but human nature have somehow justified it. But it is still evil.

my mom beat the crap out of me from 6-17 when i joined the army to get away from her but i still reserved the right inside myself to forgive her. i was unjustly accused of a crime in my 30’s and was horse whipped by cops and imprisoned but i still reserve the right not to hate them and wonder upon the ignorance they all shared. what i’m saying is, you dont have to submit to hate and evil but you also don’t have to become evil to combat it.

and killing hitler would not be evil, it would be mercy

my point is evil (or good) is a point of view, which can be altered with new information. so if you “hate” evil, all i have to do is convince you of certain information and this will make you hate anyone I elect - thus the basis of the original conjecture

Anonymous wrote:
my point is evil (or good) is a point of view, which can be altered with new information. so if you “hate” evil, all i have to do is convince you of certain information and this will make you hate anyone I elect - thus the basis of the original conjecture

sometimes i look at my daughters boobs, shes 26 and goes to unbc. am i evil?

i dont mean i look at them unclothed or anything, im saying when she makes them apparantly viewable it does not bother me if i dont look away

*innocence need not an alibi

DPT wrote:
The action of killing of a child is evil?
What about the inaction, starving third babies for instance.

keep telling me that while you eat suckling pig and veal

thanks

I am a strong christian so maybe my views are swayed because of that but The suicide bombers and such are simply extremists that do not follow what the actual bible (or other holy book) says. The group of people who do not believe in any sort of God have certain people who do things that are horrible. Every group of people has groups within that claim to be in the larger group but do not follow the same principle. As for hating Satan, I can honestly say that at this point in my life there is not one person, thing, or being that I hate. Just because something has a large amount of negative in it (Satan) does not give you the right to have hatred toward it. You may hope to not be influenced by that thing but don’t hate. God loves everyone and everything because everyone and everything were put on this planet for a reason. Even if that reason is to tempt you in order to preserve free will.