Think to yourself
What is wrong with being gay? Truly and intellectually?
If you think hard enough and with logic then your answer is
No
It is Not wrong to be gay.
No, there’s nothing wrong with being gay. If you are homosexual then that is who you are.
Post a replywhat if ur 13
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A persons life style is only wrong if it is forced on others and effects their lives negatively.
For instance being gay is ok. Randomly walking up to strange men and kissing them in public because you are gay is wrong.
age doesnt matter, you are who you are and never be ashamed of yourself!!
Fallout wrote:
age doesnt matter, you are who you are and never be ashamed of yourself!!
What they said!
Age makes no difference at all
I think you’re asking the wrong question.
Ask yourself why it’s good not to be gay.
And you’ll come up with a FAR better conclusion.
It’s kinda like asking “Is it bad to live in a house that smells like cat pee?”
Well, no. There’s nothing inherently bad about it.
If you’re around it long enough, you get used to it.
You might even learn to enjoy the smell.
But ask the question “What is good about NOT living in a house that smells like cat pee?”
And you get a much more definitive answer and reasoning.
Hmmm, I’m not sure being gay is anything like smelling of cats’ pee Blest. Strange analogy going on there.
nothing wrong with it to me. be who you want to be. after all gay means your happy right. well are you happy?
‘Why it’s good not to be straight’
Hmmmm
Not really feeling any different about being straight here, nor feeling any different about why it’s good to be gay. It’s not really a moral question i’m afraid. Gay/straight/bi/A-sexual………..just is.
Its a good thing to know who you are, dont let anyone tell you any different. Just because your 13 doenst mean its bad to be gay. The only person who knows you best is yourself. You could have the best psychiatrist in the world looking into your head and they wouldnt know you even the slighest. Be proud of who you are. There are people who are way older than you and still dont know who they are or what they are interested in.
firebird wrote:
nothing wrong with it to me. be who you want to be. after all gay means your happy right. well are you happy?
And the term “gay” does not mean happy, it means homosexual -__-;;
Blest wrote:
I think you’re asking the wrong question.
Ask yourself why it’s good not to be gay.
And you’ll come up with a FAR better conclusion.
It’s kinda like asking “Is it bad to live in a house that smells like cat pee?”
Well, no. There’s nothing inherently bad about it.
If you’re around it long enough, you get used to it.
You might even learn to enjoy the smell.
But ask the question “What is good about NOT living in a house that smells like cat pee?”
And you get a much more definitive answer and reasoning.
did you really just say that? then i should ask whats good about being straight? hmm? why would you compare being gay to the smell of cat pee? that was rather rude and insensitive. you wont come up with better conclusions of being straight to being gay, i believe your either shallow or sheltered when it comes to sexuality -__-;;
if your happy with being gay then you be you. little edvice though…dont judge anyone thats straight or you will be judge. nothing wrong with it and just make sure your careful who you hit on lol. dont want to hit on another person thats straight.
theres two means to the word gay. homosexual is one. happy is another, ive checked already.
No I think he’s doing the ‘It’s what God says so it’s what I say’ thing.
Draw me a sheep! wrote:
Hmmm, I’m not sure being gay is anything like smelling of cats’ pee Blest. Strange analogy going on there.
It wasn’t an analogy between being gay and smelling cat pee. An analogy is where you draw a parallel between one commonly understood situation and one unusual or difficult to understand situation. It’s a device to explain an unknown concept by using a well-known one.
The cat pee thing was just to show why I suggested using the logical process of asking what is good about NOT being in a certain situation. Too many people focus on the negative. And when people give negative information about homosexuality, all the crazies get offended and start using words like “bigotry” and “homophobe”. So by avoiding negativity, you can just state what is good about not being gay, and all the hyper senstive people don’t get offended and thinking that they’re being personally attacked by people who are just stating obvious facts.
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Fallout wrote:
Its a good thing to know who you are, dont let anyone tell you any different. Just because your 13 doenst mean its bad to be gay. The only person who knows you best is yourself. You could have the best psychiatrist in the world looking into your head and they wouldnt know you even the slighest. Be proud of who you are. There are people who are way older than you and still dont know who they are or what they are interested in.
firebird wrote:
nothing wrong with it to me. be who you want to be. after all gay means your happy right. well are you happy?
And the term “gay” does not mean happy, it means homosexual -__-;;
Gay originally meant happy. using it as the term for homosexuals is a recent thing.
:P
S✪NICB❂❂M wrote:
Fallout wrote:
Its a good thing to know who you are, dont let anyone tell you any different. Just because your 13 doenst mean its bad to be gay. The only person who knows you best is yourself. You could have the best psychiatrist in the world looking into your head and they wouldnt know you even the slighest. Be proud of who you are. There are people who are way older than you and still dont know who they are or what they are interested in.
firebird wrote:
nothing wrong with it to me. be who you want to be. after all gay means your happy right. well are you happy?
And the term “gay” does not mean happy, it means homosexual -__-;;
Gay originally meant happy. using it as the term for homosexuals is a recent thing.
:P
i know =P
Draw me a sheep! wrote:
‘Why it’s good not to be straight’
Hmmmm
Not really feeling any different about being straight here, nor feeling any different about why it’s good to be gay. It’s not really a moral question i’m afraid. Gay/straight/bi/A-sexual………..just is.
Well, for one thing, straight people can reproduce and have children. I’d say that’s a pretty big thing that’s good about not being gay. Straight people have a much lower suicide rate too.
The point was just to avoid having hyper-sensitive people getting offended at anything “negative” said about homosexuality. If you focus on the positive aspects of an alternative, rather than the negative aspects of the topic at hand, it’s less likely to offend those kinds of people.
Or…..You have already decided that being gay is wrong so used a negative example.
Maybe i’m wrong, but really, I doubt it. Especially as you’ve already tried to protect yourself from criticism by making it out like someone here would call you a ‘bigot’ or a ‘homophobe’ is just oversensitive.
I didn’t call you those things…..do you think I should?
Blest, we all know this isn’t you trying to protect sensitive people. In fact, attempting to push homosexuality down to say what’s good about not being gay makes it purely a negative. Get over yourself and your personal issues. This isn’t a kid who needs this crap, this is someone who’s looking for support and acceptance and has every right to it. We all see through your nonsense and fallacies.
‘’ attempting to push homosexuality down to say what’s good about not being gay makes it purely a negative'’
‘’This isn’t a kid who needs this crap, this is someone who’s looking for support and acceptance and has every right to it'’
Beautifully put Sonic
Thanks sheepy. I’ve had to deal with Blest’s personal issues before, all you have to do is blatantly point out what he’s doing so he can’t pretend he’s having you over.
In short, OP, when you meet people like Blest in the world, ignore them. They have no place in your mind and your heart. You are a strong individual, and to open at such a young age is something I admire. A dear friend of mine didn’t come out until he was 43. From his experience, I can tell you that hiding who you are, pretending it doesn’t exist, pretending it was a phase or like it never happened, will never fulfill you. Be proud to be who you are. You are beautiful. And it gets better.
‘’straight people can reproduce and have children'’
1: The world is so heavily overpopulated, having children is not always beneficial
2: Gay people can have children anyway, it’s called a surrogate
3: Not even all straight people want children, not all gay people do either
” Straight people have a much lower suicide rate too”
1: Why do you think that is? Something to do with homophobia and bigotry maybe? To use your words…
Just saying Blest….Just sayin’
Even my avi supports you ^_^ well, in a very roundabout way :P
Blest wrote:
Draw me a sheep! wrote:
‘Why it’s good not to be straight’
Hmmmm
Not really feeling any different about being straight here, nor feeling any different about why it’s good to be gay. It’s not really a moral question i’m afraid. Gay/straight/bi/A-sexual………..just is.
Well, for one thing, straight people can reproduce and have children. I’d say that’s a pretty big thing that’s good about not being gay. Straight people have a much lower suicide rate too.
The point was just to avoid having hyper-sensitive people getting offended at anything “negative” said about homosexuality. If you focus on the positive aspects of an alternative, rather than the negative aspects of the topic at hand, it’s less likely to offend those kinds of people.
Not everyone wants kids, i think thats just in your head. and if they do theres always adoption. you really need to think about what you say before you say it because you do NOT have the facts, you only have oppinions. get it right
S✪NICB❂❂M wrote:
In short, OP, when you meet people like Blest in the world, ignore them. They have no place in your mind and your heart. You are a strong individual, and to open at such a young age is something I admire. A dear friend of mine didn’t come out until he was 43. From his experience, I can tell you that hiding who you are, pretending it doesn’t exist, pretending it was a phase or like it never happened, will never fulfill you. Be proud to be who you are. You are beautiful. And it gets better.
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S✪NICB❂❂M wrote:
Blest, we all know this isn’t you trying to protect sensitive people. In fact, attempting to push homosexuality down to say what’s good about not being gay makes it purely a negative. Get over yourself and your personal issues. This isn’t a kid who needs this crap, this is someone who’s looking for support and acceptance and has every right to it. We all see through your nonsense and fallacies.
You’re just making assumptions. The last time I responded to a post that was nearly identical to this, I was called a bigot, closed minded, and many other things. So instead of offering why homosexuality is bad, I figured “Why dwell on the negative? Let’s focus on the positive aspects of being heterosexual instead.”
That way, if people are upset by any tiny criticism against homosexuality, then they won’t get upset. Because there won’t BE any criticism of homosexuality, only reasons why heterosexuality is good.
I really am trying to approach the situation from a different angle. And I’m sorry if you’re so prejudiced about me, and my beliefs, that you cannot see that. But it’s the truth. If you don’t believe it, that’s your choice. If you’ve already pre-judged me, then it’s fine to think I’m lying. That’s what prejudiced people do, after all. They ignore ratioanlity and honesty in favor of their preconceived ideas or previous judgments.
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“homosexuality, and all other kinds of sexual perversion to be equally detracting from the quality and dignity of a person’s life”
Fact or opinion, fact or opinion………….oh wait….Opinion!
“corrupted sexual behavior”
Assumption that same sex attraction is corrupted sexual behaviour………..um um um
Opinion!
“I have physically been sick after seeing things like two women french kissing in public”
Funny, many people haven’t……I find your attitude sickening, doesn’t mean I don’t think you should exist.
I find my brother kissing his girlfriend revolting, Is kissing your loved one wrong? Hmmm no, I just don’t watch…
Childbirth, frankly, is hideous…..is giving birth wrong?
Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s wrong, that’s your Opinion …Not….Fact.
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The reason why it’s not okay for people against homosexuality to “be who they are” is the same reason it’s not okay to be racist, it’s harmful, it’s dangerous and it spreads negativity like a plague…In fact as you kindly pointed out…It leads to suicide. Murder. Violence.
Your views might not change, but really, keep the hate to yourself, stop hurting others with your hurt. It’s simply not wanted
Draw me a sheep! wrote:
“homosexuality, and all other kinds of sexual perversion to be equally detracting from the quality and dignity of a person’s life”
Fact or opinion, fact or opinion………….oh wait….Opinion!
“corrupted sexual behavior”
Assumption that same sex attraction is corrupted sexual behaviour………..um um um
Opinion!
“I have physically been sick after seeing things like two women french kissing in public”
Funny, many people haven’t……I find your attitude sickening, doesn’t mean I don’t think you should exist.
I find my brother kissing his girlfriend revolting, Is kissing your loved one wrong? Hmmm no, I just don’t watch…
Childbirth, frankly, is hideous…..is giving birth wrong?
Just because you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s wrong, that’s your Opinion …Not….Fact.
Sweety, the word “perversion” and “corruption” just means that it deviates from the norm. Homosexuality is not normal. Sex exists because that’s how we reproduce. Animals are not gay, because there’s no benefit in it to survival. Plants aren’t gay, because there’s no benefit in it to survival. Even animals that have demonstrated “homosexual behavior” are not homosexual. At the very best, they are occasionally bisexual. Because as far as I can tell, any male animal that exhibits homosexual behavior will, without any hesitation, still have sex with a female animal who is in heat. And the same goes for any female animal who engages in homosexual behavior. They don’t just stop attracting males and having sex with them.
Homosexuality is a perversion and a corruption of nature. It is not natural, it is not normal. Sex in nature is for the purpose of reproduction. This is not in dispute. Every biology textbook in the Western World agrees that sex is how we reproduce, and the point of sex is to have babies. Anything outside of that is a corruption or a deviation from nature.
Those are facts, not opinions. If you do not believe me, then find a “gay” dog, and see if he doesn’t go after a female dog that’s in heat.
Hahahahaha
Blest, is all of this, all of this stuff you’re coming out with, based on being gay not being normal?????? I mean, so what if it isn’t normal? Who gives, hardly makes it wrong.
Draw me a sheep! wrote:
The reason why it’s not okay for people against homosexuality to “be who they are” is the same reason it’s not okay to be racist, it’s harmful, it’s dangerous and it spreads negativity like a plague…In fact as you kindly pointed out…It leads to suicide. Murder. Violence.
Your views might not change, but really, keep the hate to yourself, stop hurting others with your hurt. It’s simply not wanted
No, racists hate PEOPLE. I don’t hate homosexuals, I hate their behavior. I hate the behavior of people who lie, and steal, and play Emo music. But that doesn’t mean I hate the people themselves. Are you really so convinced that homosexuality is the ONLY thing that defines a person? If they couldn’t have gay sex, would they suddenly cease to exist? Because that’s how you’re describing it.
Look at it another way. Let’s say that somebody weighs 500 lbs., and is deeply and sexually attracted to eating fattening foods. Is there anything wrong with loving and eating food? No. Of course not. But indulging in every desire, be it healthy or not, is bad for a person and their life. Just because you are attracted to something, it doesn’t mean that it’s healthy or that it’s okay to indulge in that attraction.
Now, a lot of people might argue “Well, but that’s physical. It’s hurting their body.” But that is not the truth. The body only becomes unhealthy because the MIND indulged in the attraction. As far as science can tell, it is exactly the same level of difficulty for a person to reverse their sexual attractions, as it is for a big fat person to reverse their eating attractions. People can develop a taste for healthy foods, and a distaste for unhealthy foods over time. People can develop a taste for one kind of sexuality and a distaste for another kind of sexuality over time. In fact, it’s more difficult for the food tastes, because people MUST eat to survive, and eating behaviors are far deeper and more difficult to break than sexual behaviors.
Again, this is not like racism. It’s like hating poverty. Poverty is a bad thing. Being in poverty is not good. But if you are hyper-sensitive to that, you might incorrectly think that I’m saying “Poor people are bad.” I love poor people. And it is my love for them that makes me hate poverty even more; because I see how it destroys lives and families. I love homosexuals, and for that reason it makes me hate homosexuality even more; for I have seen how it destroys lives and families.
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Hahahahaha
Blest, is all of this, all of this stuff you’re coming out with, based on being gay not being normal?????? I mean, so what if it isn’t normal? Who gives, hardly makes it wrong.
That was my point! I am not saying it’s wrong. I’m trying to get people to see why not being gay is good, and perhaps better. That was the entire frickin’ point, man. You guys are the ones that took it on this rabbit trail.
My point was to say “Not being gay has benefits. Those benefits are pretty big and important to life. So instead of saying why it’s bad to be gay, let’s say why it’s good not to be gay.”
Except that having sex/falling in love with the same sex doesn’t make you fat, or ill, Racists don’t hate actually hate the people, they hate their race, that’s the whole point, homosexuality actually doesn’t define a person…it’s a social thing as homosexuality is only recently becoming acceptable in society…… Again (yawns) Poverty is damaging, homosexuality isn’t.
Why do you assume i’m hyper sensitive? I’m just having a good old fashioned discussion with you…No worries about anything like that, i’m not offended, just curious as to your thinking….
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Draw me a sheep! wrote:
Why do you assume i’m hyper sensitive? I’m just having a good old fashioned discussion with you…No worries about anything like that, i’m not offended, just curious as to your thinking….
No your not. You are attacking someone who has been abused/raped as a child ruthlessly with a mob mentality which serves only your ego which is over the top already.
“I am not saying it’s wrong”
so why bother, why say you hate homosexuality, all the OP wanted to know was if people on here thought it was wrong.
But thank you for the discussion, it was an interesting bit of procrastination from my essay.
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