As many of you know, last November I received registered
mail from my gastroenterologist stating that he was discharging me from his practice for reasons that were only known to him (re: http://help.com/post/526369-im-fed-up ) After discussing this matter at great length with my general practitioner, my parents, and several users here at help.com, I decided to submit a complaint in writing to The Department of Health (DOH), The Spokane County Medical Society, and The Washington State Medical Association.
Since submitting my complaint three weeks ago, I have heard from The DOH and The Spokane County Medical Society. The Spokane County Medical Society has decided to look into my complaint and even begin an investigation. My former Gastroenterologist will receive a copy of my complaint and has 30 days to respond. If he fails to do so, then by default they will rule in my favor.
The DOH called me yesterday and said that a panel would review my complaint and make a determination about whether it was one that they could even do an investigation on. They gave me a case number and said I would receive a letter in the mail letting me know what their decision was either way.
I am really hoping that at least one of these agencies can come to some resolution so I can have a local GE. I have to leave town on the 12th of this month just so I can see a gastroenterologist. That’s ridiculous! But it does look like things may be looking up.
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MorganLOVESyou wrote:
Good luck Puck! I hope all this gets settled
Thanks!
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I’m shouting a reply to this because shouts aren’t perminant!
Tymbus wrote:
I’m shouting a reply to this because shouts aren’t perminant!
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I’m hoping that this will be an example that the system works, and not an example of the system sweeping things under the rug.
Of course, no one is asking for the doctor’s head–just that he refrains from making unwarranted assumptions, and sharing those unwarranted assumptions–also known as “rumors”–with other doctors.
I used to teach “probable cause” and the legality of investigations, and there was one thing I always emphasized: mere suspicion doesn’t constitute probable cause. And before you start going through somebody’s possessions, you need probable cause–not just somebody’s guess that something might be amiss.
As a society, we learned long ago that things are not always what they seem. For example, I used to work late while I was in the military, and would often be the last one to leave the office. In one sense, I fit the profile of a “spy.” Some idiot could have used that as an excuse to search my quarters for classified documents or spy cameras–if it weren’t for protections in place.
I remember one officer with whom I served coming up with a false positive for cocaine in a drug test. He was initially ostracized by the command. A re-test of the sample showed a the sample to be negative. He was exonerated–but being treated like a drug user left a bad taste in his mouth.
False accusations can destroy a person’s reputation or his/her career. That’s why, as a society, we need to be 100 percent sure before we hang any kind of accusation around someone’s neck. There definitely needs to be “due process” involved, with maximum protections for the rights of any accused–and it should never be the province of one person to foment rumors based upon unsubstantiated assumptions.
The doctor in this case needs a spanking–he needs to be brought up short and made to realize that the patient is his chief concern, and that the patient deserves every benefit of the doubt–as well as a chance to respond to any charges that anything is not right!
You raised suspicions with this doctor. They may or may not rule in your favor but the next complaint against this same doctor will be looked at more closely. Rest assured you did the right thing. Enjoy your trip to Seattle. At least as much as you can seeing a doctor. Spend some time enjoying the sights and sounds. Stay positive. We are thinking of you.
southern_comfort wrote:
You raised suspicions with this doctor. They may or may not rule in your favor but the next complaint against this same doctor will be looked at more closely. Rest assured you did the right thing. Enjoy your trip to Seattle. At least as much as you can seeing a doctor. Spend some time enjoying the sights and sounds. Stay positive. We are thinking of you.
I’m quite sure I’m not the first one to put in a complaint against him and the only reason I may have raised suspicions with him is b/c he’s nuts. I mean, seriously, I was honest with him every step of the way yet in one appt he’d be yelling at me for something and in the next he’d be telling me how I was his favorite patient and that he would do whatever he had to to make me comfortable.
You did the right thing to submit a complaint! Wish you all the best!
Cell wrote:
Hope this comes out in your favor, my friend.
Zirbel wrote:
You did the right thing to submit a complaint! Wish you all the best!
Thanks, both of you! :)
B.t.w. If ever your complaint would be declined, your last resort would be to inform the local media about the case.
Zirbel wrote:
B.t.w. If ever your complaint would be declined, your last resort would be to inform the local media about the case.
Oh I know, and trust me, if I have to I’ll resort to taking it to the media and taking him to court for a lawsuit as he has gotten in the way of me getting critical needed care.
I hope there is resource to you getting financial compensation via the state funded system. In the UK, which I know you do not like me mentioning especially in relation to Mary Ann’s disability issue, but in the UK, our state funded complaints system with regard to medical care gives the proviso for compensation. If you are claiming compensation you can put in things like stress, anxiety and how this lead to your being in more pain when already critically ill, costs for travelling out of state, i.e. petrol, train fares, food, accomodation etc., anxiety to family and friends etc., costs of postage of letters of complaint, phone calls etc.
If you are sucessful with the State funded complaint, we still have the legal funded complaint system where we can pursue even more compensation for professional negligence in the UK courts. Having a UK/Western model is very useful when pursuing claims or seeking help in the USA or vice versa. I have helped many USA residents by explaining the UK model and then informing them of asking whether such provisions exist in the US.
In the UK there is a compensatory policy of up to, I think £10,000 ($15,000) via the State funded system for issues such as this. If such a compensation policy exists, you should compile a cost estimate of how much money you believe you have lost, i.e. financial lost (taxi fares, petrol, train tickets out of town, phone calls to other practictioners for counsellinglost of days at work, etc), personal injury, , i.e. the upset you have experienced emotionally and any possible physical damage or complications that may have arisen by his actions, i.e. you could state, ‘I was so anxious and confused, I forgot to take my medication for 2 days and I passed out.’
Take time writing this up as what you do not omit, will lose you money. If you are awarded costs, he will pay via his insurance. In the UK, most doctors are insured in the millions so being given say $500 compensation will not harm him.
This evidence can then be reused when you make a legal claim in the future even if this one proves unsucessful.
Anonymous wrote:
I hope there is resource to you getting financial compensation via the state funded system. In the UK, which I know you do not like me mentioning especially in relation to Mary Ann’s disability issue, but in the UK, our state funded complaints system with regard to medical care gives the proviso for compensation. If you are claiming compensation you can put in things like stress, anxiety and how this lead to your being in more pain when already critically ill, costs for travelling out of state, i.e. petrol, train fares, food, accomodation etc., anxiety to family and friends etc., costs of postage of letters of complaint, phone calls etc.If you are sucessful with the State funded complaint, we still have the legal funded complaint system where we can pursue even more compensation for professional negligence in the UK courts. Having a UK/Western model is very useful when pursuing claims or seeking help in the USA or vice versa. I have helped many USA residents by explaining the UK model and then informing them of asking whether such provisions exist in the US.
In the UK there is a compensatory policy of up to, I think £10,000 ($15,000) via the State funded system for issues such as this. If such a compensation policy exists, you should compile a cost estimate of how much money you believe you have lost, i.e. financial lost (taxi fares, petrol, train tickets out of town, phone calls to other practictioners for counsellinglost of days at work, etc), personal injury, , i.e. the upset you have experienced emotionally and any possible physical damage or complications that may have arisen by his actions, i.e. you could state, ‘I was so anxious and confused, I forgot to take my medication for 2 days and I passed out.’
Take time writing this up as what you do not omit, will lose you money. If you are awarded costs, he will pay via his insurance. In the UK, most doctors are insured in the millions so being given say $500 compensation will not harm him.
This evidence can then be reused when you make a legal claim in the future even if this one proves unsucessful.
Thanks for the information, though I’m not quite sure how it relates to the user MaryAnn. But anyway, I don’t know if the states has anything like that but it is certainly something I will be looking into. Thanks again!
Daft Puck wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I hope there is resource to you getting financial compensation via the state funded system. In the UK, which I know you do not like me mentioning especially in relation to Mary Ann’s disability issue, but in the UK, our state funded complaints system with regard to medical care gives the proviso for compensation. If you are claiming compensation you can put in things like stress, anxiety and how this lead to your being in more pain when already critically ill, costs for travelling out of state, i.e. petrol, train fares, food, accomodation etc., anxiety to family and friends etc., costs of postage of letters of complaint, phone calls etc.If you are sucessful with the State funded complaint, we still have the legal funded complaint system where we can pursue even more compensation for professional negligence in the UK courts. Having a UK/Western model is very useful when pursuing claims or seeking help in the USA or vice versa. I have helped many USA residents by explaining the UK model and then informing them of asking whether such provisions exist in the US.
In the UK there is a compensatory policy of up to, I think £10,000 ($15,000) via the State funded system for issues such as this. If such a compensation policy exists, you should compile a cost estimate of how much money you believe you have lost, i.e. financial lost (taxi fares, petrol, train tickets out of town, phone calls to other practictioners for counsellinglost of days at work, etc), personal injury, , i.e. the upset you have experienced emotionally and any possible physical damage or complications that may have arisen by his actions, i.e. you could state, ‘I was so anxious and confused, I forgot to take my medication for 2 days and I passed out.’
Take time writing this up as what you do not omit, will lose you money. If you are awarded costs, he will pay via his insurance. In the UK, most doctors are insured in the millions so being given say $500 compensation will not harm him.
This evidence can then be reused when you make a legal claim in the future even if this one proves unsucessful.
Thanks for the information, though I’m not quite sure how it relates to the user MaryAnn. But anyway, I don’t know if the states has anything like that but it is certainly something I will be looking into. Thanks again!
You via SonicBoom told me off for explaining the UK system in relation to an issue Mary Ann had and I explained to you that it was a method for her to seek help. Do call around and see if there is any compensation available via the means you are curently addressing, if there isn’t conduct the cost estimation exercise now and look to finding a no fee no win lawyers as professional negligence/personal injury claims (law suites) are often undertaken in such a way. Remember, take your time when doing this, you could even put in things like the hours you spent on your computer emailing friends due to anxiety(don’t state online). If there is a compensation provision, ask for additional time to make up the cost estimate. If you want more advice on what to put in, the more you can think of the better i.e. the cost of the envelope and paper and printer ink etc, repost questions on this post so that I and other can see it.
Hope such a provision exists so that you can make some money out of the misery that doctor created.
When you wrote your complaint, if you did not mention that you wanted as a possible resolution compensation to be paid, they will not consider giving it to you, unless you stated it. A way of finding out if they do give compensation is by looking at their website to see what their complaint resolutions might be.
If you find out that they can give compensation, then write and state, ‘I have only now been informed that I can claim compensation etc.’ Don’t worry about claiming for too many items they will look at the whole lot and then decide what the sum should be. Even if it’s $500, it’s something back.
Indeed, it looks like things are looking up. Most of all I hope you get better, and are in great health. Best Wishes for all :)
Anonymous wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I hope there is resource to you getting financial compensation via the state funded system. In the UK, which I know you do not like me mentioning especially in relation to Mary Ann’s disability issue, but in the UK, our state funded complaints system with regard to medical care gives the proviso for compensation. If you are claiming compensation you can put in things like stress, anxiety and how this lead to your being in more pain when already critically ill, costs for travelling out of state, i.e. petrol, train fares, food, accomodation etc., anxiety to family and friends etc., costs of postage of letters of complaint, phone calls etc.If you are sucessful with the State funded complaint, we still have the legal funded complaint system where we can pursue even more compensation for professional negligence in the UK courts. Having a UK/Western model is very useful when pursuing claims or seeking help in the USA or vice versa. I have helped many USA residents by explaining the UK model and then informing them of asking whether such provisions exist in the US.
In the UK there is a compensatory policy of up to, I think £10,000 ($15,000) via the State funded system for issues such as this. If such a compensation policy exists, you should compile a cost estimate of how much money you believe you have lost, i.e. financial lost (taxi fares, petrol, train tickets out of town, phone calls to other practictioners for counsellinglost of days at work, etc), personal injury, , i.e. the upset you have experienced emotionally and any possible physical damage or complications that may have arisen by his actions, i.e. you could state, ‘I was so anxious and confused, I forgot to take my medication for 2 days and I passed out.’
Take time writing this up as what you do not omit, will lose you money. If you are awarded costs, he will pay via his insurance. In the UK, most doctors are insured in the millions so being given say $500 compensation will not harm him.
This evidence can then be reused when you make a legal claim in the future even if this one proves unsucessful.
Thanks for the information, though I’m not quite sure how it relates to the user MaryAnn. But anyway, I don’t know if the states has anything like that but it is certainly something I will be looking into. Thanks again!
You via SonicBoom told me off for explaining the UK system in relation to an issue Mary Ann had and I explained to you that it was a method for her to seek help. Do call around and see if there is any compensation available via the means you are curently addressing, if there isn’t conduct the cost estimation exercise now and look to finding a no fee no win lawyers as professional negligence/personal injury claims (law suites) are often undertaken in such a way. Remember, take your time when doing this, you could even put in things like the hours you spent on your computer emailing friends due to anxiety(don’t state online). If there is a compensation provision, ask for additional time to make up the cost estimate. If you want more advice on what to put in, the more you can think of the better i.e. the cost of the envelope and paper and printer ink etc, repost questions on this post so that I and other can see it.
Hope such a provision exists so that you can make some money out of the misery that doctor created.
First, for future reference, unless the scolding comes directly from me it doesn’t count. I have looked at all the posts written by Maryann and don’t see me telling you off” anywhere. Same with shouts.
But back to the topic, I appreciate the info and I will definitely take your advice into consideration; it means a lot to me that you shared your wealth of knowledge on this topic with me.
readcar wrote:
Indeed, it looks like things are looking up. Most of all I hope you get better, and are in great health. Best Wishes for all :)
Thank you!
These are your actual comments on the post
http://help.com/post/530699-i-just-do…
Actually, help.com is not a country, it’s a website and what you are doing is in breach of the Terms of Use which you agreed to when you joined this website.If you wish to carry on a debate with someone regarding social care then please either take it to shouts or create your own post. Furthermore, if you do not have something helpful and relevant to offer the OP then please unsubscribe and go to a post where you do.
Thanks!
-Puck
Moderator
I was giving the UK model of social care to help Mary Ann work out how to get support she need within the US model again by advising her to ask if such a provision exists in the US and you and others were offended that I was constantly referring to the UK social care model not knowing or advising of your own US social care model. As I have proven today, using a UK model to explain how to get support in the US with regard to social care or professional negligence law suits can help.
Anonymous-
How about you stay on topic this isn’t about maryann or UK this is about puck, and most certainly NOT about you. If you have a problem I suggest talk through shouts rather then disrupting the post with irrelevant crap. Seriously rude.
Dani-Moderator
☠DaNi**YoU☠ wrote:
Anonymous-How about you stay on topic this isn’t about maryann or UK this is about puck, and most certainly NOT about you. If you have a problem I suggest talk through shouts rather then disrupting the post with irrelevant crap. Seriously rude.
Dani-Moderator
The information I have provided Puck with may help him/her claim money back from a negligent doctor. Why is it always somebody else’s problem when I am trying to help the OP to get help? This I think is seriously rude. This site, although based in the US has no advice to give in relation to many specific problems for its own US citizens and really has a problem with people helping in the only way they know best. It is as if we UK people are to be ashamed to be based in the UK and only know UK based information.
I have NEVER had the OP complain about the help I am offering them via the UK/Western model ALWAYS others reading it and thinking it is irrevelant (when it is not. It is usually VERY HELPFUL). If you need help with an issue, knowing how it works in another Western country is a starting point for working out how it may work for you in your country. I am proud to be British and proud to know a lot about UK law and other issues. Everyone should know more about their own countries’ legal and government systems including social care.
Wouldn’t it be great if as a result of my comments today, Puck gets some compensation wouldn’t Dani? Your comment has not helped Puck and you are equally wasting space on this. I was about to look for a US website for downloading a proforma for estimating personal injury claims but I can’t be bothered now.
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“The squeaky wheel gets the grease”.. so I hope that you making a fuss will help out in the long run. Often, the light of scrutiny exposes some pretty shady practices and, knowing this, some parties often scurry to resolve things to one’s advantage before they are brought to task.
Big Willy! wrote:
“The squeaky wheel gets the grease”.. so I hope that you making a fuss will help out in the long run. Often, the light of scrutiny exposes some pretty shady practices and, knowing this, some parties often scurry to resolve things to one’s advantage before they are brought to task.
Yea, well he doesn’t know that I have filed a complaint against him, at least he didn’t, he may by now. But when I had decided I was going to file a complaint against him I planned on doing it in the same fashion he decided to quit being my doctor, by surprise.
I would love to know the reasoning of this doctor , I hope you will keep us posted , and I hope your health issues are minimal.
Goodfella wrote:
I would love to know the reasoning of this doctor , I hope you will keep us posted , and I hope your health issues are minimal.
It’s somewhat covered in http://help.com/post/526369-im-fed-up which is the post I first started discussing this. Thanks for the well-wishes. I am going ot have to travel to Seattle b/c I have started having stomach problems again and I can’t get a doctor locally b/c of what this last doctor wrote in my chart. But I will most definitely keep you posted. Thanks again!
That doc did suck. You did right puck. Good Luck.
Daft Puck wrote:
Yea, well he doesn’t know that I have filed a complaint against him, at least he didn’t, he may by now. But when I had decided I was going to file a complaint against him I planned on doing it in the same fashion he decided to quit being my doctor, by surprise.
Which is just the way he should get it . . . the way he served it up to you! If he asks why didn’t you discuss it with him first, tell him because he sprung it on you and his mind was obviously already made up!
Karma is such a b***h! ;-)
chev.jame wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
Yea, well he doesn’t know that I have filed a complaint against him, at least he didn’t, he may by now. But when I had decided I was going to file a complaint against him I planned on doing it in the same fashion he decided to quit being my doctor, by surprise.Which is just the way he should get it . . . the way he served it up to you! If he asks why didn’t you discuss it with him first, tell him because he sprung it on you and his mind was obviously already made up!
Karma is such a b***h! ;-)
lol. Yup!
I hope things work out for you Puck - it really is quite ridiculous that you cannot access the care you need.
Whatever happened to kill “vocation and care” in medicine today? It seems to me that the profession is full to brimming with numpties who prefer to bury “tricky” problems rather than persevere to resolve them.
I suspect it has everything to do with your doctor’s personal “success” rates and the picture he would like to paint “on paper” of his own medical brilliance… now here is a patient who’s condition is complex, baffling and not an easy win for him. Much easier to bury that she ever existed than blot his “how wonderful I am at curing everyone, I’m the best” image.
I wonder how many other people have been “signed off” his paperwork with some excuse or other?
I hope that the powers that be will ask that question.
mumstheword wrote:
I hope things work out for you Puck - it really is quite ridiculous that you cannot access the care you need.Whatever happened to kill “vocation and care” in medicine today? It seems to me that the profession is full to brimming with numpties who prefer to bury “tricky” problems rather than persevere to resolve them.
I suspect it has everything to do with your doctor’s personal “success” rates and the picture he would like to paint “on paper” of his own medical brilliance… now here is a patient who’s condition is complex, baffling and not an easy win for him. Much easier to bury that she ever existed than blot his “how wonderful I am at curing everyone, I’m the best” image.
I wonder how many other people have been “signed off” his paperwork with some excuse or other?
I hope that the powers that be will ask that question.
Thanks. You bring up a lot of good points, I hope that at least one of these agencies see it the same way everyone else seems to. :)
Mum is SO right . . . for years in the USA, when doctors couldn’t figure out the physical reason for a patient’s pain, it was quite chic to say, “It’s all in your head.” And then they’d just prescribe Valium.
Yes, this doctor was stumped medically, so he took an “out.”
One thing, too . . . medicine is the only profession where you can say, “I don’t know” and “I can’t fix it” and still get paid!
chev.jame wrote:
Mum is SO right . . . for years in the USA, when doctors couldn’t figure out the physical reason for a patient’s pain, it was quite chic to say, “It’s all in your head.” And then they’d just prescribe Valium.Yes, this doctor was stumped medically, so he took an “out.”
One thing, too . . . medicine is the only profession where you can say, “I don’t know” and “I can’t fix it” and still get paid!
Law as well and many, many others….hence the term ‘professional’ negligence. LOL!
Am I being completely cynical..
Or don’t doctors with “high success rates and no failures” end up getting paid shedloads because everyone wants to be treated by them?
This is how some mega-rich consultants to Hollywood stars are born I reckon.
(and we’ve all seen how incompetent and unprofessional they can be dishing out the valium to superstars with complex issues…)
mumstheword wrote:
(and we’ve all seen how incompetent and unprofessional they can be dishing out the valium to superstars with complex issues…)
Michael Jackson immediately comes to mind.
Glad to see you have finaly taken this step. Before anything else comes your health and you should be able to do that without ecumberances from inept doctors.
Wishing and hoping you much success with the results.
thep wrote:
Glad to see you have finaly taken this step. Before anything else comes your health and you should be able to do that without ecumberances from inept doctors.
Wishing and hoping you much success with the results.
Thanks!
Daft Puck wrote:
mumstheword wrote:
(and we’ve all seen how incompetent and unprofessional they can be dishing out the valium to superstars with complex issues…)Michael Jackson immediately comes to mind.
Same here,that’s what I thought then saw your comment
jetmoose wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
mumstheword wrote:
(and we’ve all seen how incompetent and unprofessional they can be dishing out the valium to superstars with complex issues…)Michael Jackson immediately comes to mind.
Same here,that’s what I thought then saw your comment
:)
I hope ur case goes through n he gets what’s coming to him.good luck with it all. I definately want to know what happens to him n I hope u get the help you need after this jerkface is out the way.u got enough probs without him making more. I suppose just make the most out of your visit to Seattle
jetmoose wrote:
I hope ur case goes through n he gets what’s coming to him.good luck with it all. I definately want to know what happens to him n I hope u get the help you need after this jerkface is out the way.u got enough probs without him making more. I suppose just make the most out of your visit to Seattle
Thanks
I hope things turn out well, Puck. Hopefully justice will win in the end and the wrong your former GE has done to you will be righted.
Verisimilitude wrote:
I hope things turn out well, Puck. Hopefully justice will win in the end and the wrong your former GE has done to you will be righted.
Thanks, I appreciate that.
Before you go any further ide contact the american medical association first
Also , do a background check on HIM
christineaminnic wrote:
Before you go any further ide contact the american medical association first
Also , do a background check on HIM
I’ve already done a background check on him and the AMA told me to send my complaint to the Department of Health. But thanks anyway. :)
Your welcome sounds like theres some good and bad ones out there im just so sorry this happened to you
christineaminnic wrote:
Your welcome sounds like theres some good and bad ones out there im just so sorry this happened to you
Yea, it’s really frustrating. I wouldn’t care so much a/b him deciding to not be my doctor anymore but the minute he decided he was going to hinder my getting someone to replace him, that’s when I had a problem and decided reporting him was necessary.
Well congratulations on having the gumption to actually do something about this. Too many people are afraid to get involved and simply give up when accused or confronted by an authority figure. Doctors and lawyers and cops make mistakes too but it seems the system is always on their side and most people just give in. I am proud of you and good luck with your complaints!
Dr. Ralph wrote:
Well congratulations on having the gumption to actually do something about this. Too many people are afraid to get involved and simply give up when accused or confronted by an authority figure. Doctors and lawyers and cops make mistakes too but it seems the system is always on their side and most people just give in. I am proud of you and good luck with your complaints!
Thanks, Ralph. I’m just hoping these agencies make the correct ruling. :)
WHOOO HOOO!! That’s how you get things done, Puck! I can only hope that they’ll side with you and rule in your favor!
red1263 wrote:
WHOOO HOOO!! That’s how you get things done, Puck! I can only hope that they’ll side with you and rule in your favor!
Thanks, Red! I appreciate the words of encouragement!
missie_p wrote:
I wish you all the best, Daft!
Thank you!
Thanks for the update. I hope it goes the way you need it to go.
Mariam* wrote:
Thanks for the update. I hope it goes the way you need it to go.
Thanks, it’s appreciated. I also hope the ruling goes in my favor.
thanks for the update. Im wishing you the best. :D
stellar720 wrote:
thanks for the update. Im wishing you the best. :D
You’re welcome and thanks.
Along with the complaints I sent to the DOH and the Medical Society, I sent a complaint to my insurance company, Medicare. Today I received a phone call from them asking me a few questions and informing me that they were going to send me a self-addressed stamped envelope so I could send them some more info. While talking to them I learned that my former doctor was supposed to have given me at least 30 days notice of the discharge from his practice. He didn’t. So my insurance company is now involved and will likely be conducting their own investigation.
Daft Puck wrote:
Along with the complaints I sent to the DOH and the Medical Society, I sent a complaint to my insurance company, Medicare. Today I received a phone call from them asking me a few questions and informing me that they were going to send me a self-addressed stamped envelope so I could send them some more info. While talking to them I learned that my former doctor was supposed to have given me at least 30 days notice of the discharge from his practice. He didn’t. So my insurance company is now involved and will likely be conducting their own investigation.
That’s the best news yet. There were definitely procedural irregularities, and he not forwarding you on to another doctor and leaving you in the lurch, your condition being critical at the time, and the anxiety it caused you and your loved ones (which generated more and more physical, pcyological, emotional pain and discomfort and financal loss etc) is really questionable. I hope this investigation leads to the legal support you need and you garner your much deserved compensation.
I hope you have produced a summary of lost and have written up a chronology of events starting from your visit to today. This will be necessary. Go through all your communications to get this together as this will be a crucial record.
The reason people do this is not personal, it’s because they believe they can get away with it.
Anonymous wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
Along with the complaints I sent to the DOH and the Medical Society, I sent a complaint to my insurance company, Medicare. Today I received a phone call from them asking me a few questions and informing me that they were going to send me a self-addressed stamped envelope so I could send them some more info. While talking to them I learned that my former doctor was supposed to have given me at least 30 days notice of the discharge from his practice. He didn’t. So my insurance company is now involved and will likely be conducting their own investigation.That’s the best news yet. There were definitely procedural irregularities, and he not forwarding you on to another doctor and leaving you in the lurch, your condition being critical at the time, and the anxiety it caused you and your loved ones (which generated more and more physical, pcyological, emotional pain and discomfort and financal loss etc) is really questionable. I hope this investigation leads to the legal support you need and you garner your much deserved compensation.
I hope you have produced a summary of lost and have written up a chronology of events starting from your visit to today. This will be necessary. Go through all your communications to get this together as this will be a crucial record.
The reason people do this is not personal, it’s because they believe they can get away with it.
Thanks for the response. You hit the nail on the head. I have said to my mom on multiple occasions that I don’t think my (former) doctor expected me to make a complaint against him and that’s why he discharged me in that manner.
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Daft Puck wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
Along with the complaints I sent to the DOH and the Medical Society, I sent a complaint to my insurance company, Medicare. Today I received a phone call from them asking me a few questions and informing me that they were going to send me a self-addressed stamped envelope so I could send them some more info. While talking to them I learned that my former doctor was supposed to have given me at least 30 days notice of the discharge from his practice. He didn’t. So my insurance company is now involved and will likely be conducting their own investigation.That’s the best news yet. There were definitely procedural irregularities, and he not forwarding you on to another doctor and leaving you in the lurch, your condition being critical at the time, and the anxiety it caused you and your loved ones (which generated more and more physical, pcyological, emotional pain and discomfort and financal loss etc) is really questionable. I hope this investigation leads to the legal support you need and you garner your much deserved compensation.
I hope you have produced a summary of lost and have written up a chronology of events starting from your visit to today. This will be necessary. Go through all your communications to get this together as this will be a crucial record.
The reason people do this is not personal, it’s because they believe they can get away with it.
Thanks for the response. You hit the nail on the head. I have said to my mom on multiple occasions that I don’t think my (former) doctor expected me to make a complaint against him and that’s why he discharged me in that manner.
But be warned, in order to save his ar$e he may have to lie and say things like, ‘I did tell her 30 days before on the …..’ or, ’she called me a $$$.’ Whatever nonsense he makes up, your chronology of events will help because you have a record that a letter was received thanking you for payment with no mention of this etc. You will have to read through emails from months back and print out what you wrote to friends and family as evidence because it will be his word against yours. That is why you NEED that chronology of events because you can argue on that if you were warned, you would not have been in such a state when you were told and emailed 20 people that night frantically etc. In fact, give the chronology to Medicare, there team will need it. He stands to lose a lot of money because they may not permit their clients his cover. Or they may fine HIM for his behaviours. Lost of money for him. Remember to ask about compensation for yourself!
As well as making up lies they often produce counter allegations. Do not be surprised.
But getting the money at the end of it is perfect closure for you, and is the BEST detterent to stopping him exploiting others. Go for the bucks girl!
Anonymous wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
Along with the complaints I sent to the DOH and the Medical Society, I sent a complaint to my insurance company, Medicare. Today I received a phone call from them asking me a few questions and informing me that they were going to send me a self-addressed stamped envelope so I could send them some more info. While talking to them I learned that my former doctor was supposed to have given me at least 30 days notice of the discharge from his practice. He didn’t. So my insurance company is now involved and will likely be conducting their own investigation.That’s the best news yet. There were definitely procedural irregularities, and he not forwarding you on to another doctor and leaving you in the lurch, your condition being critical at the time, and the anxiety it caused you and your loved ones (which generated more and more physical, pcyological, emotional pain and discomfort and financal loss etc) is really questionable. I hope this investigation leads to the legal support you need and you garner your much deserved compensation.
I hope you have produced a summary of lost and have written up a chronology of events starting from your visit to today. This will be necessary. Go through all your communications to get this together as this will be a crucial record.
The reason people do this is not personal, it’s because they believe they can get away with it.
Thanks for the response. You hit the nail on the head. I have said to my mom on multiple occasions that I don’t think my (former) doctor expected me to make a complaint against him and that’s why he discharged me in that manner.
But be warned, in order to save his ar$e he may have to lie and say things like, ‘I did tell her 30 days before on the …..’ or, ’she called me a $$$.’ Whatever nonsense he makes up, your chronology of events will help because you have a record that a letter was received thanking you for payment with no mention of this etc. You will have to read through emails from months back and print out what you wrote to friends and family as evidence because it will be his word against yours. That is why you NEED that chronology of events because you can argue on that if you were warned, you would not have been in such a state when you were told and emailed 20 people that night frantically etc. In fact, give the chronology to Medicare, there team will need it. He stands to lose a lot of money because they may not permit their clients his cover. Or they may fine HIM for his behaviours. Lost of money for him. Remember to ask about compensation for yourself!
As well as making up lies they often produce counter allegations. Do not be surprised.
But getting the money at the end of it is perfect closure for you, and is the BEST detterent to stopping him exploiting others. Go for the bucks girl!
OK, thanks for all the advice.
Hey DP. Thanks for posting this update. Medicare itself has no authority in and of itself to prosecute any findings it finds. If it finds that this practice (whether it be just one doctor or several) their findings will be turned over to the FBI. I only know this because I work in medical billing and one of our clients was arrested 2 months ago. The day he and his wife were arrested our business office was flooded with agents gathering all our records we had on him. I don’t know if they are still in jail or if they bonded out. It made local news but went no further than that.
As long as you are honest in your reports, and I know you have been, you can hold your head high and let the chips fall where ever they may.
Continued prayers coming your way. ♥
southern_comfort wrote:
Hey DP. Thanks for posting this update. Medicare itself has no authority in and of itself to prosecute any findings it finds. If it finds that this practice (whether it be just one doctor or several) their findings will be turned over to the FBI. I only know this because I work in medical billing and one of our clients was arrested 2 months ago. The day he and his wife were arrested our business office was flooded with agents gathering all our records we had on him. I don’t know if they are still in jail or if they bonded out. It made local news but went no further than that.
As long as you are honest in your reports, and I know you have been, you can hold your head high and let the chips fall where ever they may.Continued prayers coming your way. ♥
Yes, I am aware that medicare can’t do anything punitively. However, I do know that they do have things they can do and hearing that he didn’t follow procedure when he discharged me from his practice made me feel all the more hopeful that there is light at the end of this **** tunnel.
On a positive note, it will produce more evidence, and hopefully against him.
Anonymous wrote:
On a positive note, it will produce more evidence, and hopefully against him.
Yup! :)
Thank your for the status report, Puck.
You’re on a good way. I cross fingers.
✌
Zirbel wrote:
Thank your for the status report, Puck.
You’re on a good way. I cross fingers.
✌
Thanks, Zirbel! I appreciate it. :)
Daft Puck,
just adding my voice to encourage you. sometimes the system can be very slow…but glad you have tried to find resolution through the channels available to you.
Good luck and my best wishes to you.
So glad that things are moving on in a positive way for you.
If all else fails, several hundred lunatics on help.com will paint virtual placards and march (or in my case, waddle) around cyberspace chanting slogans like “hooray for pucky plucky” and “down with dastardly doc”
… or something.
mumstheword wrote:
So glad that things are moving on in a positive way for you.If all else fails, several hundred lunatics on help.com will paint virtual placards and march (or in my case, waddle) around cyberspace chanting slogans like “hooray for pucky plucky” and “down with dastardly doc”
… or something.
lol. Thanks
chev.jame wrote:
And I’m ready to “molasses and feather” the guy!
LMAO! That’s such a great image!
mumstheword wrote:
So glad that things are moving on in a positive way for you.If all else fails, several hundred lunatics on help.com will paint virtual placards and march (or in my case, waddle) around cyberspace chanting slogans like “hooray for pucky plucky” and “down with dastardly doc”
… or something.
haha! Love it.
I leave town tomorrow to see a gastroenterologist in Seattle on Monday. I really hope this doctor is of more help than the guy I was seeing locally.
Good luck! have a good trip and I’m keeping my webbed feet crossed you get the help you need.
Daft Puck wrote:
I leave town tomorrow to see a gastroenterologist in Seattle on Monday. I really hope this doctor is of more help than the guy I was seeing locally.
I hope he can put your stomach worries to bed for good and you stay well. I’m begining to believe that that other doctor did you a favour when he ditched you. He couldn’t have been that good. Good doctors don’t behave like that. Stay with the positive.
mumstheword wrote:
Good luck! have a good trip and I’m keeping my webbed feet crossed you get the help you need.
Thanks!
Anonymous wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
I leave town tomorrow to see a gastroenterologist in Seattle on Monday. I really hope this doctor is of more help than the guy I was seeing locally.I hope he can put your stomach worries to bed for good and you stay well. I’m begining to believe that that other doctor did you a favour when he ditched you. He couldn’t have been that good. Good doctors don’t behave like that. Stay with the positive.
Yea, I’m sure he did me a favor. But he would’ve done me a bigger favor if he had left the door open wide enough so I could at least get a different gastroenterologist in the city I reside.
Daft Puck wrote:
mumstheword wrote:
Good luck! have a good trip and I’m keeping my webbed feet crossed you get the help you need.Thanks!
Anonymous wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
I leave town tomorrow to see a gastroenterologist in Seattle on Monday. I really hope this doctor is of more help than the guy I was seeing locally.I hope he can put your stomach worries to bed for good and you stay well. I’m begining to believe that that other doctor did you a favour when he ditched you. He couldn’t have been that good. Good doctors don’t behave like that. Stay with the positive.
Yea, I’m sure he did me a favor. But he would’ve done me a bigger favor if he had left the door open wide enough so I could at least get a different gastroenterologist in the city I reside.
True and make sure you find evidence that that is the case because if you can prove that, you have a bigger claim (lawsuit).
Anonymous wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
mumstheword wrote:
Good luck! have a good trip and I’m keeping my webbed feet crossed you get the help you need.Thanks!
Anonymous wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
I leave town tomorrow to see a gastroenterologist in Seattle on Monday. I really hope this doctor is of more help than the guy I was seeing locally.I hope he can put your stomach worries to bed for good and you stay well. I’m begining to believe that that other doctor did you a favour when he ditched you. He couldn’t have been that good. Good doctors don’t behave like that. Stay with the positive.
Yea, I’m sure he did me a favor. But he would’ve done me a bigger favor if he had left the door open wide enough so I could at least get a different gastroenterologist in the city I reside.
True and make sure you find evidence that that is the case because if you can prove that, you have a bigger claim (lawsuit).
OK, thanks.
In a few hours I’ll be leaving town on a Greyhound bus and tomorrow I’ll see the doctor.
Well, I am now on the Greyhound headed to Seattle. Please keep me in your thoughts.
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Oh wow, this is fantastic and I can only feel positive all through me for this. With all this back up you have here girlfriend, there ain’t no way this is a bad thing - This truely is a good thing and I feel positive and hope you are too Daft Puck! Love ya’s , X
~FlutterBy~ wrote:
Oh wow, this is fantastic and I can only feel positive all through me for this. With all this back up you have here girlfriend, there ain’t no way this is a bad thing - This truely is a good thing and I feel positive and hope you are too Daft Puck! Love ya’s , X
Yea, I’m feeling pretty good.
Saw the doctor today and he said that he doesn’t think that another procedure is necessary (at least not right now). But he was very upset by the way my former GE treated me and when I told him the reason I was discharged he said “hmmm…that’s strange. He once went out of his way to call me just to tell me that you weren’t a drug-seeker or abuser.” He also said he would be calling my GP to try to help him refer me to someone locally who could monitor my progress. He ran some labs today to check to see if I have pancreatitis and prescribed some medication used to relieve cramping of the abdomen. If the labs show I have a lipase 3 times the normal limit he will agree to do the procedure and I will have to come back to Seattle. That’s all for now. I’ll keep you posted as I find out more.
I’m glad that this doc is on your side, and that you can trust him!
Nice for you!
Zirbel wrote:
I’m glad that this doc is on your side, and that you can trust him!
Nice for you!
Thanks!
OH, i am so glad to hear you got to talk with a doctor who is reasonable. I wonder if your other doctor is becoming a little demented….or senile…or alzheimers and can’t tell one patient from another.
So I celebrate with you.
Z-Anonymous wrote:
OH, i am so glad to hear you got to talk with a doctor who is reasonable. I wonder if your other doctor is becoming a little demented….or senile…or alzheimers and can’t tell one patient from another.So I celebrate with you.
Thanks!
Yay, that’s much more positive.
It was worth the trip :o)
mumstheword wrote:
Yay, that’s much more positive.It was worth the trip :o)
Yea, it was. I received a phone call from the doctor’s (the one I just saw) nurse informing me that he had made a phone call to my GP in an attempt to confer with him about referring me to another GE to replace the quack who quit.
On thursday I will see my GP and hopefully, by then he will have spoken to the doctor here and I will know something more about who my new doctor will be.
It is now sounding like the other doctor is a little bi-polar. Is he really old? Maybe he is self medicating himself a little too much.
Dr. Ralph wrote:
It is now sounding like the other doctor is a little bi-polar. Is he really old? Maybe he is self medicating himself a little too much.
The other doctor? You mean the one who quit? Or the one I just saw?
The one I just saw (let’s call him Dr. I) is stable and young. He just didn’t feel that doing another procedure was wise.
The guy who I filed my complaint against (let’s call him Dr. D) is middle aged and I think might have some mental health problems. That or he has some dementia. I’m not sure which. Maybe both.
Yeah the one you filed your complaint about that told one doctor you were abusing your pain pills and told another doctor you weren’t an abuser. The crazy one. Maybe he’s just working too hard.
Dr. Ralph wrote:
Yeah the one you filed your complaint about that told one doctor you were abusing your pain pills and told another doctor you weren’t an abuser. The crazy one. Maybe he’s just working too hard.
ohhh! yea, that’s weird, I agree. I also have a letter he wrote to Dr. I saying I’m not a drug-seeker. Then I have a letter he wrote to my current GP saying I was never clear a/b who my GP was but then if you look back at the records he gave me there’s a letter he has written to the same GP and a letter to my interim GP when my regular GP was in semi-retirement. I think the guy is either demented or just a liar.
Doctor D. There used to be a radio show when I was a kid called Doctor Demento and he played crazy songs. He called himself Dr. D too. That is a perfect name for him.
Dr. Ralph wrote:
Doctor D. There used to be a radio show when I was a kid called Doctor Demento and he played crazy songs. He called himself Dr. D too. That is a perfect name for him.
LMAO! That’s perfect!
So, I just got a phone call from my dad and he told me that the Department of Health has agreed to investigate my complaint against Dr. D. I just need to fill out and return the waiver allowing them access to my records. So now there are three different agencies involved; Qualis (Medicare), Department of Health, and the Medical Society.
It looks like things are really beginning to look up.
Daft Puck wrote:
So, I just got a phone call from my dad and he told me that the Department of Health has agreed to investigate my complaint against Dr. D. I just need to fill out and return the waiver allowing them access to my records. So now there are three different agencies involved; Qualis (Medicare), Department of Health, and the Medical Society.It looks like things are really beginning to look up.
Great! You run on the finish!
Zirbel wrote:
Daft Puck wrote:
So, I just got a phone call from my dad and he told me that the Department of Health has agreed to investigate my complaint against Dr. D. I just need to fill out and return the waiver allowing them access to my records. So now there are three different agencies involved; Qualis (Medicare), Department of Health, and the Medical Society.It looks like things are really beginning to look up.
Great! You run on the finish!
Yup. When I get home tomorrow I’ll sign the waiver and drop it in the mail.
~FlutterBy~ wrote:
This is great! Keep smiling girl :) XXX
Thanks.
I am back from Seattle now and I have had a chance to look at the DOH’s paperwork. I have signed the waiver stating that I do not mind if they let my former doctor know who complained a/b him. They also want me to write an impact statement and tell them what kind of punishment I wish to see the doctor receive. My parents and I will be discussing this at greater length tomorrow.
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