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Eddieeee offline Verified User (1 year, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 12 #
An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (5 minutes after post)

If we buy the ever expanding universe theory, then we will never run out of new things to discover.

As for me, I say, that after light years of traveling, one must rest a spell and gaze upon what we will never truly understand…

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (7 minutes after post)

nah, not endless.
The universe is not eternal.
The space/time continuum had a beginning as Einstein and subsequent verifications attest.
Similiarly, as space/time/matter had a beginning, it has a mathematical certainty of having an end.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (9 minutes after post)

Eddieeee wrote:
If we buy the ever expanding universe theory, then we will never run out of new things to discover.

As for me, I say, that after light years of traveling, one must rest a spell and gaze upon what we will never truly understand…

Agreed, however. . .that dosen’t really answer the question, does it. Not that we would really ever know what the correct answer would be (but there should be one).
What do you think we would see?

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (10 minutes after post)

Maybe it’s like Pacman, where you go off one side and reappear on the other.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (11 minutes after post)

i would imagine i wouldnt be alive when reaching that point, but i dont even have the slightest amount of a clue. all i know is that the universe is big and black and lacks air. thats about it. LOL

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (12 minutes after post)

roofdonkey wrote:
nah, not endless.
The universe is not eternal.
The space/time continuum had a beginning as Einstein and subsequent verifications attest.
Similiarly, as space/time/matter had a beginning, it has a mathematical certainty of having an end.

Well. . .time is subjective to places and circumstance - even in the face of a conceptual eternity. If the universe is not eternal, then, by default, it has a stopping point. So, therefore something has to be in the way. Thoughts?

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verge offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 134 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (14 minutes after post)

Well, we know that the universe is expanding, so that must mean theres an end. I don’t know whats outside. Absolutely nothing? I don’t think our universe is the only one. Sometimes I think our universe could be the tiniest part of a different universe. I love space.

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MorganLOVESyou wrote:
i would imagine i wouldnt be alive when reaching that point, but i dont even have the slightest amount of a clue. all i know is that the universe is big and black and lacks air. thats about it. LOL

Oh, cam’mon - use your imagination, stretch that muscle until it burns. What do you think you would see?

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (15 minutes after post)

Totally Pacman. That or we’ll all blow up

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BIG AL ONE wrote:

roofdonkey wrote:
nah, not endless.
The universe is not eternal.
The space/time continuum had a beginning as Einstein and subsequent verifications attest.
Similiarly, as space/time/matter had a beginning, it has a mathematical certainty of having an end.

Well. . .time is subjective to places and circumstance - even in the face of a conceptual eternity. If the universe is not eternal, then, by default, it has a stopping point. So, therefore something has to be in the way. Thoughts?

That is correct.
But time cannot exist without space.
And space is defined by matter/energy.
Which mathematically will absolutely cease to exist (theory of relativity)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (15 minutes after post)

verge wrote:
Well, we know that the universe is expanding, so that must mean theres an end. I don’t know whats outside. Absolutely nothing? I don’t think our universe is the only one. Sometimes I think our universe could be the tiniest part of a different universe. I love space.

Well. . .there is space, and then there are the things contained within it. Could space be limitless and the contence be limited?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (17 minutes after post)

If you go too far you fall off the end of the universe. http://stevelummer.files.wordpress.co…

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (18 minutes after post)

BIG AL ONE wrote:

Eddieeee wrote:
If we buy the ever expanding universe theory, then we will never run out of new things to discover.

As for me, I say, that after light years of traveling, one must rest a spell and gaze upon what we will never truly understand…

Agreed, however. . .that dosen’t really answer the question, does it. Not that we would really ever know what the correct answer would be (but there should be one).
What do you think we would see?

I did answer the question. ;) Ever expanding means we will never see/catch the end. In the mean time, we are only human and need time to rest and reflect. It is very much the rock and the hard place. With all this reflection needed, how are we to keep up?!

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (21 minutes after post)

roofdonkey wrote:
That is correct.
But time cannot exist without space.
And space is defined by matter/energy.
Which mathematically will absolutely cease to exist (theory of relativity)

What about space existing without time? Isn’t time based upon quantifiable matter and energy?
I always thought space defined itself, as the dominant room where-by all things are contained within it.
According to what I understand about Einstein (and other scientists), matter converts to energy and energy does not end. If it did, wouldn’t PI have an divisibility of zero?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (27 minutes after post)

Eddieeee wrote:
I did answer the question. ;) Ever expanding means we will never see/catch the end. In the mean time, we are only human and need time to rest and reflect. It is very much the rock and the hard place. With all this reflection needed, how are we to keep up?!

I suppose you did. Although, I’m a bit stuck. To say “never catch the end,” implys there is an end. How could we catch the end. I don’t know - the assumption that we could? Maybe not now, but given time to develop the technology to do so.
However, if all things are already eternal and are set, ever expanding, there would be no end to catch up to.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (29 minutes after post)

verge wrote:
Sometimes I think our universe could be the tiniest part of a different universe. I love space.

Yeah, like the Men in Black thing, a marble inside a marble, or a locker inside a locker.

Dr. Ralph wrote:
If you go too far you fall off the end of the universe. http://stevelummer.files.wordpress.co…

There could be a circumfence to prevent it.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (31 minutes after post)

BIG AL ONE wrote:

Eddieeee wrote:
I did answer the question. ;) Ever expanding means we will never see/catch the end. In the mean time, we are only human and need time to rest and reflect. It is very much the rock and the hard place. With all this reflection needed, how are we to keep up?!

I suppose you did. Although, I’m a bit stuck. To say “never catch the end,” implys there is an end. How could we catch the end. I don’t know - the assumption that we could? Maybe not now, but given time to develop the technology to do so.
However, if all things are already eternal and are set, ever expanding, there would be no end to catch up to.

Ahhh, I see what you are after. You want to ride the wave. Be at the moment of creation. I don’t think that is mater of invention, but more a matter of faith.

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Eddieeee wrote:
Ahhh, I see what you are after. You want to ride the wave. Be at the moment of creation. I don’t think that is mater of invention, but more a matter of faith.

!Lol. Apparently then, my faith is ahead of the times! Bummer. As a kid, I thought we’d all be Star Trekking around out there by now. Sad to be stuck in these times. I feel, sometimes I was born way too early or way too late.
I believe that man was meant to fly, but here we are - barely able to afford gas, and serving the corperate elite.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (42 minutes after post)

BIG AL ONE wrote:

Eddieeee wrote:
Ahhh, I see what you are after. You want to ride the wave. Be at the moment of creation. I don’t think that is mater of invention, but more a matter of faith.

!Lol. Apparently then, my faith is ahead of the times! Bummer. As a kid, I thought we’d all be Star Trekking around out there by now. Sad to be stuck in these times. I feel, sometimes I was born way too early or way too late.
I believe that man was meant to fly, but here we are - barely able to afford gas, and serving the corperate elite.

I feel that way sometimes. I am still young, but sometimes I feel disappointed because I doubt virtual reality and serious space travel will be around until at least near the end of my lifetime.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (43 minutes after post)

Eddieeee wrote:

BIG AL ONE wrote:
Eddieeee wrote:
If we buy the ever expanding universe theory, then we will never run out of new things to discover.

As for me, I say, that after light years of traveling, one must rest a spell and gaze upon what we will never truly understand…

Agreed, however. . .that dosen’t really answer the question, does it. Not that we would really ever know what the correct answer would be (but there should be one).
What do you think we would see?

I did answer the question. ;) Ever expanding means we will never see/catch the end. In the mean time, we are only human and need time to rest and reflect. It is very much the rock and the hard place. With all this reflection needed, how are we to keep up?!

Well unfortunately, the universe can’t expand forever and survive. If it continues to expand it’ll end in heat death. If it slows and shrinks in on itself another big bang might happen, but the edges of the universe have been accelerating, so thats not looking likely. I like to think that there are so many other universes because I don’t particularly like the thought of endless nothing, but if there really is nothing else, it just makes life and us so very much cooler. Some once in an infinity crazy sweet fluke.

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verge wrote:

Eddieeee wrote:
BIG AL ONE wrote:
Eddieeee wrote:
If we buy the ever expanding universe theory, then we will never run out of new things to discover.

As for me, I say, that after light years of traveling, one must rest a spell and gaze upon what we will never truly understand…

Agreed, however. . .that dosen’t really answer the question, does it. Not that we would really ever know what the correct answer would be (but there should be one).
What do you think we would see?

I did answer the question. ;) Ever expanding means we will never see/catch the end. In the mean time, we are only human and need time to rest and reflect. It is very much the rock and the hard place. With all this reflection needed, how are we to keep up?!

Well unfortunately, the universe can’t expand forever and survive. If it continues to expand it’ll end in heat death. If it slows and shrinks in on itself another big bang might happen, but the edges of the universe have been accelerating, so thats not looking likely. I like to think that there are so many other universes because I don’t particularly like the thought of endless nothing, but if there really is nothing else, it just makes life and us so very much cooler. Some once in an infinity crazy sweet fluke.

my mind has officially been baffled O.O

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (47 minutes after post)

BIG AL ONE wrote:

Eddieeee wrote:
Ahhh, I see what you are after. You want to ride the wave. Be at the moment of creation. I don’t think that is mater of invention, but more a matter of faith.

!Lol. Apparently then, my faith is ahead of the times! Bummer. As a kid, I thought we’d all be Star Trekking around out there by now. Sad to be stuck in these times. I feel, sometimes I was born way too early or way too late.
I believe that man was meant to fly, but here we are - barely able to afford gas, and serving the corperate elite.

Faith by it’s very definition, means we are short of what we wish to know/have/understand at this moment. Not to worry, we as a people are very driven and don’t all sleep at the same time. What you write as a question today may very well be solved by the time morning reaches you.

As for born to early or too late.. I guess we all have our dreams………My point is, tonight’s dreams just my be our future. Up to you Al. ;)

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (51 minutes after post)

I’m on the ever expanding universe train. Big bang and then everything started getting bigger. Maybe we were a black hole before that. Either way wouldn’t it be grand to ride the wave on the edge of creation? I like that idea.

Unfortunately when we were kids they kept showing George Jetson cars as being normal by the turn of the century. We got ripped off didn’t we Al? Oh and I really like Araz’s avatar. You outdid yourself on that one. It is almost as good as mine.

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TranquilTempest wrote:
I feel that way sometimes. I am still young, but sometimes I feel disappointed because I doubt virtual reality and serious space travel will be around until at least near the end of my lifetime.

I’ve come to the conclusion that, as long as there is governmental control envoking power over it’s people, we wil NEVER travel thru space as we should be doing in any lifetime.

verge}Well unfortunately, the universe can’t expand forever and survive. If it continues to expand it’ll end in heat death. If it slows and shrinks in on itself another big bang might happen, but the edges of the universe have been accelerating, so thats not looking likely. I like to think that there are so many other universes because I don’t particularly like the thought of endless nothing, but if there really is nothing else, it just makes life and us so very much cooler. Some once in an infinity crazy sweet fluke.[/quote wrote:

I thought if it expanded it would cool down reather than heat up as things move away from the source of heat. I agree with the rest of your statement.

MorganLOVESyou}my mind has officially been baffled O.O

Small doses, baby-doll - not all at once, now.:P

[quote Cell wrote:
I think you will come to the end of our created space time. I think beyond that is some kind of waters or something.

What, like a giant wall of water or vasst ocean? I suppose that would be kinda cool.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (53 minutes after post)

Dr. Ralph wrote:
I’m on the ever expanding universe train. Big bang and then everything started getting bigger. Maybe we were a black hole before that. Either way wouldn’t it be grand to ride the wave on the edge of creation? I like that idea.

Unfortunately when we were kids they kept showing George Jetson cars as being normal by the turn of the century. We got ripped off didn’t we Al? Oh and I really like Araz’s avatar. You outdid yourself on that one. It is almost as good as mine.

While we are on the topic, got any ideas on bringing life to my avi Al?

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (1 hour, 3 minutes after post)

You are absolutely right about the cooling down, I think it is just called heat death because temperature differences or other process could no longer be used to perform work because all matter would be essentially destroyed and unable to do anything.

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Eddieeee wrote:
As for born to early or too late.. I guess we all have our dreams………My point is, tonight’s dreams just my be our future. Up to you Al. ;)

(sigh)
Yeah. . .I’m working on it.

Eddieeee wrote:
While we are on the topic, got any ideas on bringing life to my avi Al?

It’s too detailed, Eddieee. Your av is “too nice” if you can understand that. There’s no elbow room. I’m sorry. But, if you have an idea for a different Av, drop me a shout, I’ll see what I can put together for ya.;)

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Dr. Ralph wrote:
I’m on the ever expanding universe train. Big bang and then everything started getting bigger. Maybe we were a black hole before that. Either way wouldn’t it be grand to ride the wave on the edge of creation? I like that idea.

Unfortunately when we were kids they kept showing George Jetson cars as being normal by the turn of the century. We got ripped off didn’t we Al? Oh and I really like Araz’s avatar. You outdid yourself on that one. It is almost as good as mine.

Oh yeah - get out your silver surfboard, I say. And yeah, we got ripped off. I seen a documenty reflecting the automotive industry of the 50’s. The Big Three auto companies ALL had flying car designs because they anticipated an upward expanding growth of population and development. Well, by the time the government was finished lecturing them, all of them shut down their programs all at once.
Hhmmmmmm. . .imagine that. . .

Oh Doc, there’s nothing like your Av - it’s smokin’!:)

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verge wrote:
You are absolutely right about the cooling down, I think it is just called heat death because temperature differences or other process could no longer be used to perform work because all matter would be essentially destroyed and unable to do anything.

Sure. It’s like an engine seizing up, just on a galactical scale.

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Try it and find out. Text us.

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Universe = Everything that IS

There is no “IS NOT.”

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I suppose it won’t end ever. Unless we presume that we are sure of ‘the end’ to the universe and ‘lets adjust our speed to reach there in the next 20 minutes, shall we?’

In that case, (I hope) you’ll reach ’someone’ who’ll tell you (well, this is my thought):

‘Dude! What are you doing here? The Lord didn’t put you on earth so you could gallivant elsewhere. There is no value in you getting here. You should go back to earth and worship Him. Seek Him. He’ll show you things you have never seen.’

Well, heh heh - I would like someone to tell me this as I reach the edge of the infinite.

This isn’t really a scientific-oriented response. Apologies for this. :-) (Just not able to think on scientific/factual lines in this question.)

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (11 hours, 17 minutes after post)

Is the universe endless?
As far as we know, yes. However, it is ALSO finite in size. This is a rather strange concept, but it works in the same sense that the surface of a balloon is finite in size yet has no ‘edge’.
It is a proven fact that our minds cannot understand the concept of infinity.
Mathematicians seem to be able to handle it fine.
How can scientists sit there and say that there is absolutely no such thing as extra terrestrials???
Actually… many scientists do believe that there are aliens out there. Most of them do not believe that any aliens are visiting the Earth, however.
And another thing… scientists estimated how many galaxies there are in the universe. How can they put a number on that?

All we can do reliably is estimate the number of galaxies in the observable Universe, that is to say, the part of the Universe that we can see. We can do this because we have taken photographs of patches of the sky and can see roughly how many galaxies there are for a given angular area, then extrapolate to the size of the whole sky. Theoretically, if we knew the size of the entire Universe, we would be able to extrapolate to that as well by assuming that the density of galaxies everywhere is about the same as the density of galaxies that we can see. We don’t know for sure that this is the case, though, nor do we know exactly how big the entire Universe is (although inflationary theory would at least require it to be much larger than the observable Universe… to account for isotropy and the flatness of space)…

INFINITE….

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Space

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (12 hours, 49 minutes after post)

I’ve heard it said…”The universe is vast and endless. If WE are all there is, if WE are the only inhabitants of this Universe, it seems like a terrible waste of space”….
Oh my heavens…I sooooo agree…Totally. ^_^

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (14 hours, 54 minutes after post)

If we reach the shock wave border of the original big bang that is creating time in its wake then we might find that we are just a proton, neutron or electron of an even bigger universe.

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I kind of think the scale of this is pretty close to the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJOVUF…

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The truth be told, tis pink blankmonge. It goes on for ever and ever.
Fred has given us all a bad turn, he fell in.
The last we heard was belching sounds, Archie thinks he is trying to eat his way out.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (17 hours, 22 minutes after post)

This universe started with a big bang and is still expanding, sounds fair to me.
What if we could travel to the farthest edge of this explosion and look out, would we see other universes, (explosions from nowhere and nothingness)?
This would mean that one day these other universes will meagre and mix with ours, this of cause I will never know but is a good starting point for good long bitter discussion with all the God believers.
God did not just create one universe but many…….

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (17 hours, 38 minutes after post)

~CaraMia~ wrote:
How can scientists sit there and say that there is absolutely no such thing as extra terrestrials???
Actually… many scientists do believe that there are aliens out there. Most of them do not believe that any aliens are visiting the Earth, however.
INFINITE….

Well technically, as the universe is infinite, or nearly so, so are the possiblities. As such, the chances are overwhelming that there is another creature sitting down and reading a post about E.T.s and a infinite universe and laughing saying how its crazy.

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An Undisclosed Location | 1 year, 1 month ago (18 hours, 42 minutes after post)

This discussion reminds me of the similar one we had sitting together like this, years ago when we imagined all things possible regarding what we see at the end of the earth… It was beyond our imagination then that the Earth is a sphere, like it is now that the universe is a what-ever-it-is. Am just sure like we never found the end of Earth we’ll never also find the end of the Universe. We’ll just grasp it someday.

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Its totally utterly endless and we DO NOT belong in space. I appreciate that people have explored it, but it is too large to even comprehend. It kind of pisses me off when people suggest living in space. There is no air, for god sakes! if that isnt enough of a hint, i dont know what is.

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I think that you can go on exploring forever. We have no clue on this little ball of rock on what´s out there.

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Grim_Hardcastle wrote:
I think that you can go on exploring forever. We have no clue on this little ball of rock on what´s out there.

agreed.

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There’s another point, there is no center of the universe. which also means all of the universe is the center. so, really, without a center, there are no boundaries, so really it just goes on forever.

or if you believe in multiverse theory there may be ways of passing into another universe such as a worm hole, black hole, dumb hole? idk, that’s with sound, so on and so fourth.

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‘Dude! What are you doing here? The Lord didn’t put you on earth so you could gallivant elsewhere. There is no value in you getting here. You should go back to earth and worship Him. Seek Him. He’ll show you things you have never seen.’

This isn’t really a scientific-oriented response. Apologies for this. :-) (Just not able to think on scientific/factual lines in this question.)

Well, you may or may not know that I live in Alaska. In my time, here, I’ve made great adventure and been places where I’m absolutely certian that no man has ever set his foot. Further honestey, nor will likely never set his foot to in the future. Should I not have been there?

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There’s another point, there is no center of the universe. which also means all of the universe is the center. so, really, without a center, there are no boundaries, so really it just goes on forever.

or if you believe in multiverse theory there may be ways of passing into another universe such as a worm hole, black hole, dumb hole? idk, that’s with sound, so on and so fourth.

The main thing it all comes down to is “There is no NOTHINGNESS.”

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This universe started with a big bang and is still expanding, sounds fair to me.
What if we could travel to the farthest edge of this explosion and look out, would we see other universes, (explosions from nowhere and nothingness)?
This would mean that one day these other universes will meagre and mix with ours, this of cause I will never know but is a good starting point for good long bitter discussion with all the God believers.
God did not just create one universe but many…….

as a God believer, Fat B., I actually don’t have a problem with your statement. I think that if God Created many universes, and there is intelligent life other than our own, I think the delima we face would be the face, is the fact that we need to solve our own problems here at home.

Jolly Delta Charger wrote:
If we reach the shock wave border of the original big bang that is creating time in its wake then we might find that we are just a proton, neutron or electron of an even bigger universe.

Well, with the possability of multiple dimensions, could we not very well be just one set of interdimensional beings?

thep wrote:
The truth be told, tis pink blankmonge. It goes on for ever and ever.
Fred has given us all a bad turn, he fell in.
The last we heard was belching sounds, Archie thinks he is trying to eat his way out.

!Lol Munch-Munch!

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It’s totally utterly endless and we DO NOT belong in space. I appreciate that people have explored it, but it is too large to even comprehend. It kind of pisses me off when people suggest living in space. There is no air, for god sakes! if that isnt enough of a hint, i dont know what is.

If that’s the casse, the same thing could be said about ocean exploration. I personally grew up with the Undersea World of Jaques Cuesto and there has never been a greater documentist since. The thought of living in innerspace is just as much of a thought as it is to living in outer space.

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I think that you can go on exploring forever. We have no clue on this little ball of rock on what´s out there.

My thoughts go to this effect: Space goes on forever, even if it dosen’t. How does that work? Well, if we live in a closed universe (yet it expands), it must expand like a round hole where whole nebulas and galaxies calve off like glaciers from a larger wall. Wouldn’t this increase the size of space as more wall surface “erodes” back?

C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
There’s another point, there is no center of the universe. which also means all of the universe is the center. so, really, without a center, there are no boundaries, so really it just goes on forever.
Or if you believe in multiverse theory there may be ways of passing into another universe such as a worm hole, black hole, dumb hole? idk, that’s with sound, so on and so fourth.

I like the dumb hole theory. It seems we were alloted our portion at the end of that rectium!:P

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The main thing it all comes down to is “There is no NOTHINGNESS.”

I believe you’re right about that, my dear. I don’t think we are in the circumstance where we could discover it.

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Yeah Jaques Cuesto! Smile of the walrus 3

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Yeah Jaques Cuesto! Smile of the walrus 3

:)

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Rosabella wrote:
The main thing it all comes down to is “There is no NOTHINGNESS.”

I believe you’re right about that, my dear. I don’t think we are in the circumstance where we could discover it.

There is no nothingness, because if there’s an “edge” or an “end,” there would have to be something on the other side. Therefore there is NO edge, and there is nothing but EVERYTHING, capiche? Dear?

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Rosabella wrote:

BIG AL ONE wrote:
Rosabella wrote:
The main thing it all comes down to is “There is no NOTHINGNESS.”

I believe you’re right about that, my dear. I don’t think we are in the circumstance where we could discover it.

There is no nothingness, because if there’s an “edge” or an “end,” there would have to be something on the other side. Therefore there is NO edge, and there is nothing but EVERYTHING, capiche? Dear?

Oh, you don’t have to convence the agreeable - I agree. Though, consider some factors and what people may mean by ‘nothingness.’
Some people believe that if you can travel fast enough and far enough to catch up to the ‘edge’ where all matter cuts thru space, that you would stand with all things behind you and empty black space in front of you. The void in front would be designated as ‘nothingness’ or ‘void.’ Empty space prepared to recieve incomming matter from an expanding universe.

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This reminds me of when I was a child, some relatives convinced me that if I rode around the barn fast enough on my tricycle I would catch myself.

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This reminds me of when I was a child, some relatives convinced me that if I rode around the barn fast enough on my tricycle I would catch myself.

!lol!
That, and watching a puppy try to catch it’s tail.

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Universe = Everything that IS

Therefore the tail is already caught

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Oh well, I’m just blurting out stuff anyway :)

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Rosabella wrote:
Universe = Everything that IS

Therefore the tail is already caught

Aaaannd every now and then the puppy catches it’s tail.
Now, that’s an entertainment value.

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You’ll eventually find the restaurant at the end of the universe.

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You’ll eventually find the restaurant at the end of the universe.

Read that in Jr. High. It was a good book.

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Rosabella wrote:

C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
There’s another point, there is no center of the universe. which also means all of the universe is the center. so, really, without a center, there are no boundaries, so really it just goes on forever.

or if you believe in multiverse theory there may be ways of passing into another universe such as a worm hole, black hole, dumb hole? idk, that’s with sound, so on and so fourth.

The main thing it all comes down to is “There is no NOTHINGNESS.”

yeah pretty much. nothingness just doesnt exist. if it did, it would be something.

of course, nothingness is exactly what you experience when you die (my beliefs anyway) so really, it exists as a concept that we could never hope to achieve full understanding of, but nothing more. :P

and al, dumbholes are are like black holes only instead of light not being ale to escape, sound is unable to escape :P

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C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
yeah pretty much. nothingness just doesnt exist. if it did, it would be something:P

ROFLMAO! You sure know how to keep the wheel turning.

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Before and after life, planets, stars, gas and dust, it could be perceived that there was and will be nothing but a black abyss. And white holes produced matter, which resulted in all the physical material that exists today. The black abyss could be perceived as just one step away from absolute nothingness - before and after space and time - which consists of a white void. And dark sparks could be the means with which space and time came into existence and will perish from existence. Only through the void can the abyss be reborn. And through the abyss, the cosmos.

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randomchatsmith wrote:
‘Dude! What are you doing here? The Lord didn’t put you on earth so you could gallivant elsewhere. There is no value in you getting here. You should go back to earth and worship Him. Seek Him. He’ll show you things you have never seen.’

This isn’t really a scientific-oriented response. Apologies for this. :-) (Just not able to think on scientific/factual lines in this question.)

Well, you may or may not know that I live in Alaska. In my time, here, I’ve made great adventure and been places where I’m absolutely certian that no man has ever set his foot. Further honestey, nor will likely never set his foot to in the future. Should I not have been there?

Wow! I didn’t know! :-) Nice… I guess I’ll get some opportunity to travel to such places. I’ve only been to Houston for a week, outside India. And traveled a bit within India…

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Before and after life, planets, stars, gas and dust, it could be perceived that there was and will be nothing but a black abyss. And white holes produced matter, which resulted in all the physical material that exists today. The black abyss could be perceived as just one step away from absolute nothingness - before and after space and time - which consists of a white void. And dark sparks could be the means with which space and time came into existence and will perish from existence. Only through the void can the abyss be reborn. And through the abyss, the cosmos.

. . .I hope my scuba gear will still be working.:P
This almost sounds like you’re describing an Antiverse.

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someone on this site wrote:
Before and after life, planets, stars, gas and dust, it could be perceived that there was and will be nothing but a black abyss. And white holes produced matter, which resulted in all the physical material that exists today. The black abyss could be perceived as just one step away from absolute nothingness - before and after space and time - which consists of a white void. And dark sparks could be the means with which space and time came into existence and will perish from existence. Only through the void can the abyss be reborn. And through the abyss, the cosmos.

. . .I hope my scuba gear will still be working.:P
This almost sounds like you’re describing an Antiverse.

Ah yes, good idea, scuba-cosmos gear should do the trick, perhaps even through the abyss, though I’m not sure if it’ll hold up through the void. By that point, actually, the void could definitely be perceived as an antiverse. By that point you’d probably need some kind of xeno-scuba gear. Or something.

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someone on this site wrote:

BIG AL ONE wrote:
someone on this site wrote:
Before and after life, planets, stars, gas and dust, it could be perceived that there was and will be nothing but a black abyss. And white holes produced matter, which resulted in all the physical material that exists today. The black abyss could be perceived as just one step away from absolute nothingness - before and after space and time - which consists of a white void. And dark sparks could be the means with which space and time came into existence and will perish from existence. Only through the void can the abyss be reborn. And through the abyss, the cosmos.

. . .I hope my scuba gear will still be working.:P
This almost sounds like you’re describing an Antiverse.

Ah yes, good idea, scuba-cosmos gear should do the trick, perhaps even through the abyss, though I’m not sure if it’ll hold up through the void. By that point, actually, the void could definitely be perceived as an antiverse. By that point you’d probably need some kind of xeno-scuba gear. Or something.

Perhaps s suit, something to this effect -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1B7Mh…

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BIG AL ONE wrote:

someone on this site wrote:
BIG AL ONE wrote:
someone on this site wrote:
Before and after life, planets, stars, gas and dust, it could be perceived that there was and will be nothing but a black abyss. And white holes produced matter, which resulted in all the physical material that exists today. The black abyss could be perceived as just one step away from absolute nothingness - before and after space and time - which consists of a white void. And dark sparks could be the means with which space and time came into existence and will perish from existence. Only through the void can the abyss be reborn. And through the abyss, the cosmos.

. . .I hope my scuba gear will still be working.:P
This almost sounds like you’re describing an Antiverse.

Ah yes, good idea, scuba-cosmos gear should do the trick, perhaps even through the abyss, though I’m not sure if it’ll hold up through the void. By that point, actually, the void could definitely be perceived as an antiverse. By that point you’d probably need some kind of xeno-scuba gear. Or something.

Perhaps s suit, something to this effect -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1B7Mh…

Yeah, that should to the trick.

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C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:

Rosabella wrote:
C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
There’s another point, there is no center of the universe. which also means all of the universe is the center. so, really, without a center, there are no boundaries, so really it just goes on forever.

or if you believe in multiverse theory there may be ways of passing into another universe such as a worm hole, black hole, dumb hole? idk, that’s with sound, so on and so fourth.

The main thing it all comes down to is “There is no NOTHINGNESS.”

yeah pretty much. nothingness just doesnt exist. if it did, it would be something.

That’s right - that’s why “There is no Nothingness.”

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I know this is completely improbable BUT this is my random made up theory that has no mathematical backing…in other words I don’t care if you disagree ^_^.

What if the end is the beginning and you end up exactly where you started. Now that something! *nods head emphatically*

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BIG AL ONE wrote:

C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
yeah pretty much. nothingness just doesnt exist. if it did, it would be something:P

ROFLMAO! You sure know how to keep the wheel turning.

I do what I can :P

Rosabella wrote:

C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
Rosabella wrote:
C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
There’s another point, there is no center of the universe. which also means all of the universe is the center. so, really, without a center, there are no boundaries, so really it just goes on forever.

or if you believe in multiverse theory there may be ways of passing into another universe such as a worm hole, black hole, dumb hole? idk, that’s with sound, so on and so fourth.

The main thing it all comes down to is “There is no NOTHINGNESS.”

yeah pretty much. nothingness just doesnt exist. if it did, it would be something.

That’s right - that’s why “There is no Nothingness.”

exactly!!!!! you understand, i like you. :D

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i think we’re inside a giant bubble, there is a space wall. maybe we’re all just sat in a glass ball on someones desk in another bigger universe.

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C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:

BIG AL ONE wrote:
C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
yeah pretty much. nothingness just doesnt exist. if it did, it would be something:P

ROFLMAO! You sure know how to keep the wheel turning.

I do what I can :P

Rosabella wrote:

C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
Rosabella wrote:
C★ss¡✪raptor wrote:
There’s another point, there is no center of the universe. which also means all of the universe is the center. so, really, without a center, there are no boundaries, so really it just goes on forever.

or if you believe in multiverse theory there may be ways of passing into another universe such as a worm hole, black hole, dumb hole? idk, that’s with sound, so on and so fourth.

The main thing it all comes down to is “There is no NOTHINGNESS.”

yeah pretty much. nothingness just doesnt exist. if it did, it would be something.

That’s right - that’s why “There is no Nothingness.”

exactly!!!!! you understand, i like you. :D

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RoughDiamond wrote:
I know this is completely improbable BUT this is my random made up theory that has no mathematical backing…in other words I don’t care if you disagree ^_^.

What if the end is the beginning and you end up exactly where you started. Now that something! *nods head emphatically*

I don’t think it’s improbable. I think you may be right. Think of a tiny hypothetical creature that can only perceive one spacial dimension. It lives on a long line that is joined at the ends to form a circle. As it walks around the line, it assumes that its universe is infinite. But to an observer looking down from above (an observer that can perceive more than one spacial dimension), the creature’s world is obviously finite.

Now think of another tiny creature living on the surface of an inflating balloon. It can only perceive two spacial dimensions - it can’t look up or down, just left and right. In this creature’s mind, the universe seems infinite. It can walk around the sphere forever and never reach a boundary. But to a human observer, the sphere is clearly finite.

I think our universe is the same way - finite and boundless.

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BIG AL ONE wrote:
someone on this site wrote:
BIG AL ONE wrote:
someone on this site wrote:
Before and after life, planets, stars, gas and dust, it could be perceived that there was and will be nothing but a black abyss. And white holes produced matter, which resulted in all the physical material that exists today. The black abyss could be perceived as just one step away from absolute nothingness - before and after space and time - which consists of a white void. And dark sparks could be the means with which space and time came into existence and will perish from existence. Only through the void can the abyss be reborn. And through the abyss, the cosmos.

. . .I hope my scuba gear will still be working.:P
This almost sounds like you’re describing an Antiverse.

Ah yes, good idea, scuba-cosmos gear should do the trick, perhaps even through the abyss, though I’m not sure if it’ll hold up through the void. By that point, actually, the void could definitely be perceived as an antiverse. By that point you’d probably need some kind of xeno-scuba gear. Or something.

Perhaps s suit, something to this effect -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1B7Mh…

Yeah, that should to the trick.

lol a qoute of a quote of a quote of a quote of a quote

maybe master chief’s MJOLNIR armor or somethin. it has atmosphere control

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So You’re Traveling Thru Space.
What do you think finally happens after traveling for so long -
Do you come to the end of all things and enter a dark boundary
where there is no more planets, suns, nebulas?
Or, is there some great and vast wall where galaxies, nebulas and solar
systems just slide off into space.
Or, is the journey completely endless where there is just one galaxy after another.
Thoughts?

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