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So i was having a conversation with my friend about imigration.

She’s left so i can’t say what i planned to say so i’ll put it on help. We both agree that immigration in the UK should be reduced, for many reasons but her main claim was to protect Britishness. Now i personally don’t support that view, it’s a bit to BNP for my liking. The implication that imigrants dilute britishness is kind of true but they remain the minority, but if you look in history when we’ve had mass immigration eg, immigration from the west indies and the ugandan asian, you can see they do not really harm the sense of britishness. Over a generation or so, they ARE british. To be british is more of your social unbringing so i believe. These immigrants may come over, may have their own ways and may keep them but their children will grow up influenced by the british way of life and most can later be associated with ‘britishness’
MY reason for freezing immigration, is that we have load of children coming over, some not knowing a word of English. Their parent’s may not be assisting the matter, as many Pakistani and Bangladeshi parents speak their language at home and assume their children will learn english via school. In time they do but this drastically harms their education. English schools need improving, we need bilingal teachers and fast. This is why ( or at least one reason) we need to stall immigration of none english speakers.
What do you think, have any views?

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Anonymous #
1 year ago (20 minutes after post)

I think that immigration is a brilliant thing. If people are suffering in their own countries, I think it’s fantastic that they can go somewhere safe and start a new life. However, when a country becomes overpopulated I believe that it’s necessary to enforce a cap on immigration. Other than that, I support it. I don’t believe there’s such a thing as nationality. It’s almost impossible to define and in my opinion it’s just a way for people to be certain of their identity. Nationality causes problems. The truth is that we’re all citizens of the world and every country belongs to each of us. I want to learn from different cultures and ways of life so I think immigration is a brilliant way of introducing diversity in our society in Britain. As long as everyone respects each others’ traditions, it works well.

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jonesmegan23 offline Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (33 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
I think that immigration is a brilliant thing. If people are suffering in their own countries, I think it’s fantastic that they can go somewhere safe and start a new life. However, when a country becomes overpopulated I believe that it’s necessary to enforce a cap on immigration. Other than that, I support it. I don’t believe there’s such a thing as nationality. It’s almost impossible to define and in my opinion it’s just a way for people to be certain of their identity. Nationality causes problems. The truth is that we’re all citizens of the world and every country belongs to each of us. I want to learn from different cultures and ways of life so I think immigration is a brilliant way of introducing diversity in our society in Britain. As long as everyone respects each others’ traditions, it works well.

Yeah in those ways i support immigration. But at the moment there is MASS immigration. And this doesn’t have the desire effect of multi culturism and with that respect, more segraculturism, and it’s kind of natural, if you were to move abroad would you feel more comfortable living in an enlgish speaking community? i would, for the sense of familularity, doesn’t mean your against the wider culture it’s just how it is. Those people can come from worse of areas and it would be terrible for us as a society to deny them the right to live here if we’re capable of providing it. But with mass immigration, segraculturism results in some of these cultures against the wider culture (eg, pakistani gangs ‘protecting’ themselves from outsiders, or Sharia law being placed in Muslim neighbourhoods)but they remain the minority, for these reasons we need more control over immigration but not be racist about it by claiming immigrants destroy britishness, that’s just ridiculous in my view

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Anonymous #
1 year ago (38 minutes after post)

I agree with you that it’s unacceptable to pass judgement that immigration destroys Britishness and I understand that it’s more comfortable for immigrants to settle into a part of the country that offers some familiarity to them such as language or religion. I also agree that mass immigration is a problem and my solution to that would be a cap on how many immigrants enter the country every year and maybe a rule that they must participate in some form of local tradition? I don’t know if that makes sense. I’m going to have to think that one through. Thanks for sharing your opinion with me and giving me a more rounded view.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (53 minutes after post)

Both of your reasons… are not good. Britishness as a term is just a load of sentimental BS fluff so I discount that immediately. And in many instances people of different nationalities have shown better understanding of English than us Brits. I’d say the trouble with English is not a trouble foreigners have but one people who are born here have. And that is entirely a different matter all together (our education).

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jonesmegan23 offline Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (1 hour, 9 minutes after post)

blackbook668 wrote:
Both of your reasons… are not good. Britishness as a term is just a load of sentimental BS fluff so I discount that immediately. And in many instances people of different nationalities have shown better understanding of English than us Brits. I’d say the trouble with English is not a trouble foreigners have but one people who are born here have. And that is entirely a different matter all together (our education).

I understand you there. And your right MOST immigrants have a better understanding of english that us brits BUT Pakikitani and Bangladeshi ARE underachieving as a result of the language barrier. I’m a sociology student, we’ve done this topic recently. It’s A reason for controlling immigration, not the best but important nonetheless. BUT, i do think we English need to be bilingal,most hate the idea of it, but it’s essential in an ever intergrating world. I’m currently learning Russian, Spanish and French.:)an i luv it. Shame in our schools they can drop out of learning a second language nowm one step backwards i believe.

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An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (1 hour, 25 minutes after post)

blackbook668 wrote:
Both of your reasons… are not good. Britishness as a term is just a load of sentimental BS fluff so I discount that immediately. And in many instances people of different nationalities have shown better understanding of English than us Brits. I’d say the trouble with English is not a trouble foreigners have but one people who are born here have. And that is entirely a different matter all together (our education).

And your right education is an issue. I think most british people feel threatened by immigration, there’s the riduclus accusation that their stealing jobs for brits, live of benefits and take the council housing. People need to be taught the pros to immigration, especialling in an ageing population which we have in the UK. But there are issue as a result of immigration, as i’ve said above, pakistani gangs prying on white teenage girls, and extremist muslims imposing sharia law- the media have field days on these things. I wouldn’t doubt racism plays it’s part in creating these gangs etc,but it’s a cycle, people just envision immigration as the key cause rather than examining other factors.

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MarlinTheFish offline Verified User (1 year, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 1 year ago (2 hours, 28 minutes after post)

“to protect Britishness”? hahahhaha! that’s total BS, a nationalist tool. Its a myth invented to create a wall otherwise known as “us vs them”. politically speaking it makes it easier for the government to control the masses.

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