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mindhealer offline Verified User (2 years, 12 months) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2 minutes after post)

Sure, here’s his profile: http://help.com/user/2-helpbot

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Dalek Karan offline Verified User (2 years, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 10 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (6 minutes after post)

You can believe 2+2=25 if you think it will do any good.

Agent Smith offline Verified User (2 years, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (9 minutes after post)

Sure you can. Anyone can. Why? Is there something more specific that you need help with?

president mindhealer wrote:
Sure, here’s his profile: http://help.com/user/2-helpbot

Lol I hope help-bot isn’t God, it seems to flag a lot of things as suicidal when they aren’t. I wouldn’t want a God that gets confused that easily.

MoOon offline Verified User (11 months, 2 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 8 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (12 minutes after post)

hi I’m a Muslim and I believe in God (Allah)
because He is the one how made us and made this Universe
you can ask Google write Allah

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mindhealer offline Verified User (2 years, 12 months) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (17 minutes after post)

Agent Smith wrote:
Sure you can. Anyone can. Why? Is there something more specific that you need help with?

president mindhealer wrote:
Sure, here’s his profile: http://help.com/user/2-helpbot

Lol I hope help-bot isn’t God, it seems to flag a lot of things as suicidal when they aren’t. I wouldn’t want a God that gets confused that easily.

Mortals are always thinking that the omniscient deities must be confused, but, if you think about it, the reverse might be more true.

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Dalek Karan offline Verified User (2 years, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 10 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (23 minutes after post)

If you happen to be standing in the middle of the road watching this giant truck speeding towards you, praying to God will only get you run over, just walk out of the way.

OMG! I’M GOD I helped save a life…

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Anonymous #
11 months, 2 weeks ago (36 minutes after post)

can i believe in God ?

Why do you ask?

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Agent Smith offline Verified User (2 years, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (40 minutes after post)

president mindhealer wrote:
Mortals are always thinking that the omniscient deities must be confused, but, if you think about it, the reverse might be more true.

Lol, you may need to explain that. I’m tired. And doesn’t omniscient mean “knows everything”?

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Dalek Karan offline Verified User (2 years, 11 months) Long Term User Shouts: 10 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (41 minutes after post)

Agent Smith wrote:

president mindhealer wrote:
Mortals are always thinking that the omniscient deities must be confused, but, if you think about it, the reverse might be more true.

Lol, you may need to explain that. I’m tired. And doesn’t omniscient mean “knows everything”?

are you a DORK?

omniscient mean “knows everything”

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mindhealer offline Verified User (2 years, 12 months) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (46 minutes after post)

Agent Smith wrote:
Lol, you may need to explain that.

I think we’ve hit the limits of pure reason. You’ll just have to accept it on faith, sorry for any inconvenience that might cause.

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11 months, 2 weeks ago (48 minutes after post)

I guess. If you want to. I wouldn’t recommend it though.

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noonelikesaknowitall offline Verified User (3 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (51 minutes after post)

of course you can, macro evolution has not been proved and micro evolution only remixes dna or reduces dna. So the creation idea is still alive and well

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 2 minutes after post)

noonelikesaknowitall wrote:
of course you can, macro evolution has not been proved and micro evolution only remixes dna or reduces dna. So the creation idea is still alive and well

But, to be an atheist just enough to not believe in GOD

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 2 minutes after post)

sometimes

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spiratec9 offline Verified User (5 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 2 #
Burnaby, BC, CA | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 3 minutes after post)

I think its a natural thing to inquire into your creator.
Religious people call it God.
Scientific people call it nature.
They are the same thing.
Your soul is a permanent part of you.
You have 3 permanent atoms around which your soul forms your
three bodies.Physical,Astral and mental.
We incarnate over and over again in these three bodies.
Until we achieve enlightenment of soul awarness.

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 7 minutes after post)

noonelikesaknowitall wrote:
of course you can, macro evolution has not been proved and micro evolution only remixes dna or reduces dna. So the creation idea is still alive and well

There are a lot Of kind of tought for atheism and he does not follow a single image

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noonelikesaknowitall offline Verified User (3 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 9 minutes after post)

Piggy wrote:

noonelikesaknowitall wrote:
of course you can, macro evolution has not been proved and micro evolution only remixes dna or reduces dna. So the creation idea is still alive and well

There are a lot Of kind of tought for atheism and he does not follow a single image

I am not sure what your point is.

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Anonymous #
11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 17 minutes after post)

you can or cannot, believe it or not

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 29 minutes after post)

To be an atheist does not require proof -

Evolution is just that notice that see in animals but not necessary to be an atheist.

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 30 minutes after post)

TheN nature and universe

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Anonymous #
11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 31 minutes after post)

If you want to grasp false hope with outlandish stories that make no sense and look like they were written by 3 year olds……GO FOR IT!!!!!!

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noonelikesaknowitall offline Verified User (3 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 35 minutes after post)

Piggy wrote:
To be an atheist does not require proof -

Evolution is just that notice that see in animals but not necessary to be an atheist.

I see. Fair enough, to not believe in God requires no proof. You do not need to subscribe to evolution to be an intellectually satisfied atheist

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noonelikesaknowitall offline Verified User (3 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 37 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
If you want to grasp false hope with outlandish stories that make no sense and look like they were written by 3 year olds……GO FOR IT!!!!!!

Perhaps the op should put his trust in what you believe?

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Anonymous #
11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 38 minutes after post)

Why even grasp to anything. Live your life for you, your family, and friends. CHristianity, atheism, buddhist, WHAT EVER!!!! You have this life, it’s not forever……….LIVE IT!!!!!!!!!!

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 41 minutes after post)

noonelikesaknowitall wrote:

Piggy wrote:
To be an atheist does not require proof -

Evolution is just that notice that see in animals but not necessary to be an atheist.

I see. Fair enough, to not believe in God requires no proof. You do not need to subscribe to evolution to be an intellectually satisfied atheist

I can I can subscribe about evolution, but not the idea of ​​evolution is really which made ​​me an atheist.

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noonelikesaknowitall offline Verified User (3 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 45 minutes after post)

Anonymous wrote:
Why even grasp to anything. Live your life for you, your family, and friends. CHristianity, atheism, buddhist, WHAT EVER!!!! You have this life, it’s not forever……….LIVE IT!!!!!!!!!!

I did that, it left me unfulfilled (just my experience, probably older than you are) but good luck with it.

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 47 minutes after post)

sorry
I didnt mean to be an atheist does not require proof

but the edite Atheism does not require proof
i just were talking about the post

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noonelikesaknowitall offline Verified User (3 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 51 minutes after post)

Piggy wrote:
sorry
I didnt mean to be an atheist does not require proof

but the edite Atheism does not require proof
i just were talking about the post

Dont worry about it, I am happy with my world view, you are happy with yours :)

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 52 minutes after post)

Atheism does not to prove
Evolution is the idea of ​​an idea of ​​how the emergence of species

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 54 minutes after post)

noonelikesaknowitall wrote:

Piggy wrote:
sorry
I didnt mean to be an atheist does not require proof

but the edite Atheism does not require proof
i just were talking about the post

Dont worry about it, I am happy with my world view, you are happy with yours :)

great ;)

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mindhealer offline Verified User (2 years, 12 months) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2 hours, 18 minutes after post)

Piggy wrote:
Atheism does not to prove
Evolution is the idea of ​​an idea of ​​how the emergence of species

I agree with you on all that, but there are a lot of people who believe that those evolutionary theories contradicts with believing in a creator God — so a person could more easily be atheist by believing in evolution and more easily be theistic by not believing in evolution.

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ENAMTHBert offline Verified User (3 years, 3 months) Long Term User Shouts: 3 #
An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2 hours, 54 minutes after post)

I think you misanderstand
Atheism does not need to prove
I mean you do not need to resource (such as evolution) in order to be an atheist.
But, to be religious You could needs resource .
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mindhealer offline Verified User (2 years, 12 months) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (3 hours, 6 minutes after post)

Piggy wrote:
I think you misanderstand

I think you’re wrong. But I’m not saying that to be mean or to argue.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (3 hours, 11 minutes after post)

president mindhealer wrote:

Piggy wrote:
I think you misanderstand

I think you’re wrong. But I’m not saying that to be mean or to argue.

No you were not mean I just wanted to make my Point clear if you didn’t understand

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mindhealer offline Verified User (2 years, 12 months) Long Term User Shouts: 45 #
An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (3 hours, 51 minutes after post)

Piggy wrote:

president mindhealer wrote:
Piggy wrote:
I think you misanderstand

I think you’re wrong. But I’m not saying that to be mean or to argue.

No you were not mean I just wanted to make my Point clear if you didn’t understand

No, I agree with your point, and I even think it might be relevant to this post if it is turned inside out to say that belief in God is possible whether evolutionary theories are correct or not — but that this is certainly not true for all people, that for some people those are contradictory states of mind.

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (5 hours, 8 minutes after post)

Since there is no way to prove or disprove the existence or nonexistence of God, you are going to have to believe what you believe. You can read the evidence presented by various religions and if they resonate with you, then you might believe.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (6 hours, 42 minutes after post)

Truly believing in God happens to people who have a personal experience that is so real to them that they can not deny what they experienced. This is why people who have had this experience go to great lengths to convince or persuade another people who has yet had the experience. “Which I don’t believe is the best way to approach it” but is how many respond to such a question.

For me I was raised with no belief and not knowing God. When I was 19 I had a dream and a close friend of mine came to my house and began sharing her faith in God. I prayed with her and had the most imbedded amazing experience I have ever had. This was 32 years ago and I have never forgotten that moment. I did not start attending church as the ones I did I did not feel or see what I had felt when alone in prayer with God. So I began to read the bible by myself and started to pray daily to the God I felt was a part of my life. It was an amazing time in my life. I felt like I could talk and pray to God about everything I felt he understood me like never ever had. Since then I have had so many experiences in my faith with God one on one that no one or nothing could ever convience me anything differant.

I understand people who have not had this experience are still searching or have found something else that has stopped them from searching and are satisfied. There is nothing wrong with people being where they are it is what it is. Which is why I don’t go around preaching or arguing to non belivers or people who havent experienced what I have. I just live my life the way I do and if someone asks me about my faith I share it how I just did here.

The first step I believe in knowing who God is. Is seeking and searching for him. It is good to study as much as you can in differant religions I feel.

In closing I will share something that I have shared with many people whom after sharing they did what I said and they to discovered God was real and began to believe.

This is what I say:

If God is who he says and claims to be then he does not need me to tell people he is real. You should be able to ask God your self to show you that he is real. It’s simple and is nothing magical. If you truly open your heart and are truly searching putting aside all doubt ask God to make him self real to you.

I’m not even sure if you are searching or just asking a random question you wanted to throw out to get responses but either way this is my response.

God Bless and have a great day!

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (7 hours, 12 minutes after post)

Are you asking for permission to believe in God or asking if believing in God is a worthwhile exercise? I’m assuming the latter is true since it would seem ridiculous to ask permission for something that you do not need.

Can you believe in God? The short answer is yes. Anyone can believe in God if they choose. Tangible evidence in favor of God’s existence is not a prerequisite for belief in God. Many believers will contend that there is evidence, but it’s not the kind of evidence that can undeniably confirm the existence of God - there is always room for questions and doubt. Any attempt to use logic or reason to believe in God will be in vain. Faith is the key element. It is the one thing that gives believers the necessary courage and strength to accept the validity of God’s existence in the face of skeptics. It is the one thing believers cannot be deprived of and that is immune to attack. Faith is the cornerstone of any religion.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (7 hours, 37 minutes after post)

I am not an atheist, however I DO believe in evolution, and slightly in God, as for religion, well the less said the better. Someone/something had to create the Big Bang, so it might as well be god, and as for evolution; who’s to say it’s not to a plan, (survival of the fittest), (the big fat lazy one leads), how do I know, I was not there at the beginning, and what’s more NO ONE ELSE WAS ETHER. It’s all guess work.
I have often wondered WHY the religion believers go to such extreme ends to convert and persuade nonbelievers into believers, why? I am perfectly happy just the way I am.

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (8 hours, 20 minutes after post)

windmills, wrote:
Any attempt to use logic or reason to believe in God will be in vain.

C.S. Lewis and others would differ in opinion on that.

If you would like, indianmiracleproduc, you can look over Wikipedia’s arguments for and against the existence of God:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existenc…

As for myself, I stick to a permutation of Instrumentalism and a belief that truth has to be the best predictor of reality. What is true should (and I believe will) bring the best benefit to a person’s life. I know of no illusions or delusions that could cause stable happiness. In my experience such things can easily crumble to the ground in the face of certain facts or realities. And so I believe as true whatever brings the greatest happiness in a person’s life, and for me God has done so.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (8 hours, 24 minutes after post)

You are blind, religion is not fact, god is not fact, and Darwinism is not fact.
At present, it’s all Faith in what you choose to believe.

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (8 hours, 32 minutes after post)

FatB.Three wrote:
You are blind, religion is not fact, god is not fact, and Darwinism is not fact.
At present, it’s all Faith in what you choose to believe.

I never claimed any of them were fact. But on the second point you are wrong. There are plenty of experiences, testimonies, thoughts and reasoning, biases, logical exercises, tests, considerations, etc. that people can use to choose what they believe. The same way I can know what car is best for me, what political ideology I want to subscribe to, or anything else really.
When it comes down to it, unfortunately, humans are insanely subjective. But there is objectivity if you are clever enough to analyze your subconscious.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (8 hours, 39 minutes after post)

I am pleased god has given you everything you wanted, perhaps you are unique, just think of all those who suffer just for a bowl of rice, and believe in god, just like you.

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (8 hours, 54 minutes after post)

If you want to be good at arguing you can’t resort to strawman arguments. Especially when you know extremely little about your opponent ^^
I grew up in a third world country with my family as they administered to people as humanitarians and missionaries. Many people there were poor, as we were as we lived among them. My family gave up all their possessions to move there, because we don’t care about material things. Yet in spite of that, the difference God made in their lives was as night and day. You can keep your economic prosperity. I’d rather have happiness no matter my circumstance. God has made my life better not because he has made me more prosperous (prosperity brings most people little happiness, few rich people are truly content), but because he has given me peace and contentment and happiness, among many other things.
There is enough food in this world to feed everyone. The problem is that humans are selfish and keep to their prosperity at the cost of others. Americans and Europeans throw away so much food every day. If that is ever to be addressed, people need to become less selfish. And I have not seen atheism bring about an increase in that kind of charity and compassion, I’m afraid. Some people can have such qualities while being atheists but from what I have seen it’s in spite of, not because of, that belief.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (9 hours, 5 minutes after post)

And the relevance all this has on this post is?

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (15 hours, 21 minutes after post)

president mindhealer wrote:

Piggy wrote:
Atheism does not to prove
Evolution is the idea of ​​an idea of ​​how the emergence of species

I agree with you on all that, but there are a lot of people who believe that those evolutionary theories contradicts with believing in a creator God — so a person could more easily be atheist by believing in evolution and more easily be theistic by not believing in evolution.

You seems steeped in the faith you can not imagine the world of atheism.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (15 hours, 38 minutes after post)

president mindhealer wrote:

Piggy wrote:
president mindhealer wrote:
Piggy wrote:
I think you misanderstand

I think you’re wrong. But I’m not saying that to be mean or to argue.

No you were not mean I just wanted to make my Point clear if you didn’t understand

No, I agree with your point, and I even think it might be relevant to this post if it is turned inside out to say that belief in God is possible whether evolutionary theories are correct or not — but that this is certainly not true for all people, that for some people those are contradictory states of mind.

Not contradictory states of mind but Perhaps a more open:)

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Burnaby, BC, CA | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (15 hours, 38 minutes after post)

Most atheists believe in Nature and the laws of nature.
And that all substance is made from some fundamental substance.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (17 hours, 59 minutes after post)

Who is saying you can’t??

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (18 hours, 42 minutes after post)

You can, I would say it isn’t particularly necessary or perhaps even intellectually honest, but you can…of course you can.

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (18 hours, 57 minutes after post)

Same old bull going on here as in the god-gender thread. Nobody has concrete answers to either question.

God must exist, else we scrabbling worms of humanity would have nothing to use for a scapegoat. Give God the praise, or blame it on God. Whatever gets you through the night.

OP Anonymous, the answer to your question is YES. You can believe in God. You have a mind. Use it however you can. ;)

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (20 hours, 19 minutes after post)

Piggy wrote:
You seems steeped in the faith you can not imagine the world of atheism.

Well, again this is just something you are imagining, or make-believing about someone. That’s easy for me to see because I am the person you make up the imaginary beliefs about. I’ll leave aside the fact that it made you not understand the things I said, trying to clarify a few random things for you, and move on to another thought — if it is so automatic and natural to make-believe an identity for someone right in front of you, it must surely be possible to imagine or believe in characters that are only known through the imagination, such as mythic characters, figures in books, gods and goddesses in mythology and religions.

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Do you have the guts?

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Piggy wrote:

president mindhealer wrote:
No, I agree with your point, and I even think it might be relevant to this post if it is turned inside out to say that belief in God is possible whether evolutionary theories are correct or not — but that this is certainly not true for all people, that for some people those are contradictory states of mind.

Not contradictory states of mind but Perhaps a more open:)

If you look up “creationism vs. evolution” you’ll find a whole world of people who seem to strongly believe that those ideas are mutually exclusive contradictions. You might be interested if you’re so interested in this post about believing in God. Speaking of which, I’ll reiterate my opinion that not only is it possible to believe in God, you can do it simply by visiting his profile page.

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (22 hours, 59 minutes after post)

DarkSnow wrote:

windmills, wrote:
Any attempt to use logic or reason to believe in God will be in vain.

C.S. Lewis and others would differ in opinion on that.

If you would like, indianmiracleproduc, you can look over Wikipedia’s arguments for and against the existence of God:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existenc…

As for myself, I stick to a permutation of Instrumentalism and a belief that truth has to be the best predictor of reality. What is true should (and I believe will) bring the best benefit to a person’s life. I know of no illusions or delusions that could cause stable happiness. In my experience such things can easily crumble to the ground in the face of certain facts or realities. And so I believe as true whatever brings the greatest happiness in a person’s life, and for me God has done so.

Well, in this case, I would have to submit that the application of human reasoning and logic to the question of whether or not God exists will never be enough to prove God’s existence or lack thereof. Although I do not believe in God, I would like to play the devil’s advocate and assume that God does exist for a moment. Be definition, God is the supreme being. He is the creator and ruler of the universe. Therefore, it should be understood that God is above any form of human reason and logic by virtue of him inventing the two. All of that aside, would God want our belief in him to be based on reason and logic, both of which are fallible? Is it even possible to fathom a being who is infinitely more intelligent than ourselves? At the end of the day, all we are really left with is faith. So I see no reason why, if God gave us faith, he would want us to use anything else to justify our belief in his existence.

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noonelikesaknowitall offline Verified User (3 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
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windmills, wrote:

DarkSnow wrote:
windmills, wrote:
Any attempt to use logic or reason to believe in God will be in vain.

C.S. Lewis and others would differ in opinion on that.

If you would like, indianmiracleproduc, you can look over Wikipedia’s arguments for and against the existence of God:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existenc…

As for myself, I stick to a permutation of Instrumentalism and a belief that truth has to be the best predictor of reality. What is true should (and I believe will) bring the best benefit to a person’s life. I know of no illusions or delusions that could cause stable happiness. In my experience such things can easily crumble to the ground in the face of certain facts or realities. And so I believe as true whatever brings the greatest happiness in a person’s life, and for me God has done so.

Well, in this case, I would have to submit that the application of human reasoning and logic to the question of whether or not God exists will never be enough to prove God’s existence or lack thereof. Although I do not believe in God, I would like to play the devil’s advocate and assume that God does exist for a moment. Be definition, God is the supreme being. He is the creator and ruler of the universe. Therefore, it should be understood that God is above any form of human reason and logic by virtue of him inventing the two. All of that aside, would God want our belief in him to be based on reason and logic, both of which are fallible? Is it even possible to fathom a being who is infinitely more intelligent than ourselves? At the end of the day, all we are really left with is faith. So I see no reason why, if God gave us faith, he would want us to use anything else to justify our belief in his existence.

1 Peter 3:15 (NKJV)
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear;

This would suggest to me (a believer of the bible) that we should use reason. As a believer of the bible I have a way to comprehend God.

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When one has to quote the bible to convince others as proof, they have already lost, the bible is not evidence, it’s just a BOOK.

A book created from Verbal history.

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U believe in or not, but god surely believes in u, God is a pure soul, no matter what u think about him, but its his responsibility to be with u, he will be with you in every conditions..he will do what is right for you, not what u wanted.

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prashant.goswam wrote:
U believe in or not, but god surely believes in u, God is a pure soul, no matter what u think about him, but its his responsibility to be with u, he will be with you in every conditions..he will do what is right for you, not what u wanted.

You believe in or not, but god surely believes in you, God is a pure soul, no matter what you think about him, but it’s his responsibility to be with you, he will be with you in every conditions.. He will do what is right for you, not what you wanted.

Your education seems to be in need.

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A Soul is pure thing and it is God, where you see a soul, God is there, and you are also a God because you have that pure soul.

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noonelikesaknowitall offline Verified User (3 years, 8 months) Long Term User Shouts: 6 #
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FatB.Three wrote:
When one has to quote the bible to convince others as proof, they have already lost, the bible is not evidence, it’s just a BOOK.

A book created from Verbal history.

Lost what exactly? my world view remains the same regardless if people believe it or not. I am not trying to convince anyone of the bibles authenticity by posting that quote from the bible. I was trying answer the post about reason.

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I’m not suprised how many people responded to this post! Any time religion, God or Politics come up we all have so many diferrant views and that is what makes everyone so unique. Before I belived a God existed and had a personal experience that changed my life I was searching in many directions. Nothing anyone or any book had to say about God did anything for me,it was something I had to find out myself and so glad I did. It has changed my life forever. So to all who are still searching enjoy your journey and I pray each of you finds what you are searching for!

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noonelikesaknowitall wrote:

windmills, wrote:
DarkSnow wrote:
windmills, wrote:
Any attempt to use logic or reason to believe in God will be in vain.

C.S. Lewis and others would differ in opinion on that.

If you would like, indianmiracleproduc, you can look over Wikipedia’s arguments for and against the existence of God:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Existenc…

As for myself, I stick to a permutation of Instrumentalism and a belief that truth has to be the best predictor of reality. What is true should (and I believe will) bring the best benefit to a person’s life. I know of no illusions or delusions that could cause stable happiness. In my experience such things can easily crumble to the ground in the face of certain facts or realities. And so I believe as true whatever brings the greatest happiness in a person’s life, and for me God has done so.

Well, in this case, I would have to submit that the application of human reasoning and logic to the question of whether or not God exists will never be enough to prove God’s existence or lack thereof. Although I do not believe in God, I would like to play the devil’s advocate and assume that God does exist for a moment. Be definition, God is the supreme being. He is the creator and ruler of the universe. Therefore, it should be understood that God is above any form of human reason and logic by virtue of him inventing the two. All of that aside, would God want our belief in him to be based on reason and logic, both of which are fallible? Is it even possible to fathom a being who is infinitely more intelligent than ourselves? At the end of the day, all we are really left with is faith. So I see no reason why, if God gave us faith, he would want us to use anything else to justify our belief in his existence.

1 Peter 3:15 (NKJV)
15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear;

This would suggest to me (a believer of the bible) that we should use reason. As a believer of the bible I have a way to comprehend God.

That’s fine. Just be aware that for any reason that can be applied to justify belief in God, there’s a reason to justify a lack of belief.

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i am NOT trolling so when i say there is no such thing as god, please dont be offended. if there was such a entity then why is there so much death, lies, corruption, greed, shall i continue? all of these things have ruined and will continue to ruin society as we all know it, why is that? why isnt there world peace? why doesnt this all mighty one come to earth and TAKE AWAY all these bad people? the answer is because it does NOT exist, nor will it ever.

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According to the teachings of Christianity, God endowed mankind with free will, which makes it possible for evil to exist. God does not allow evil to exist, but rather, he gave us the power to choose how we want live and if we wish to be doers of good or doers of bad. That is the concept of free will - one has the power to freely choose without any limitations or restrictions. Assuming that God exists, if we did not have free will, it seems reasonable to believe that the alternative would be divine will - or the will of God. And if we all carried out the will of God, then what would the world be like? A world without the existence evil is what we would have.

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the_manning_er wrote:
i am NOT trolling so when i say there is no such thing as god, please dont be offended. if there was such a entity then why is there so much death, lies, corruption, greed, shall i continue? all of these things have ruined and will continue to ruin society as we all know it, why is that? why isnt there world peace? why doesnt this all mighty one come to earth and TAKE AWAY all these bad people? the answer is because it does NOT exist, nor will it ever.

I respect your not believing but fyi your questions are explained in the bible, any one reading your post may assume that they are not.

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Love is my religion .. be at peace stop fighting, and let love rule.

Agape

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can i believe in God ?
Please help.

Most Hindus believe in a Supreme God, whose qualities and forms are represented by the multitude of deities which emanate from him.

Some claim that one is ‘born a Hindu’, but there are now many Hindus of non-Indian descent. Others claim that its core feature is belief in an impersonal Supreme, but important strands have long described and worshipped a personal God. Outsiders often criticise Hindus as being polytheistic, but many adherents claim to be monotheists.

Brahman and God
Brahman
Brahman is a Sanskrit word which refers to a transcendent power beyond the universe. As such, it is sometimes translated as ‘God’ although the two concepts are not identical. Brahman is the power which upholds and supports everything. According to some Hindus this power is identified with the self (atman) while others regard it as distinct from the self.
Most Hindus agree that Brahman pervades everything although they do not worship Brahman. Some Hindus regard a particular deity or deities as manifestations of Brahman.
God
Most Hindus believe in God but what this means varies in different traditions. The Sanskrit words Bhagavan and Ishvara mean ‘Lord’ or ‘God’ and indicate an absolute reality who creates, sustains and destroys the universe over and over again. It is too simplistic to define Hinduism as belief in many gods or ‘polytheism’. Most Hindus believe in a Supreme God, whose qualities and forms are represented by the multitude of deities which emanate from him. God, being unlimited, can have unlimited forms and expressions.
God can be approached in a number of ways and a devoted person can relate to God as a majestic king, as a parent figure, as a friend, as a child, as a beautiful woman, or even as a ferocious Goddess. Each person can relate to God in a particular form, the ishta devata or desired form of God. Thus, one person might be drawn towards Shiva, another towards Krishna, and another towards Kali. Many Hindus believe that all the different deities are aspects of a single, transcendent power.
In the history of Hinduism, God is conceptualised in different ways, as an all knowing and all pervading spirit, as the creator and force within all beings, their ‘inner controller’ (antaryamin) and as wholly transcendent. There are two main ideas about Bhagavan or Ishvara:
1. Bhagavan is an impersonal energy. Ultimately God is beyond language and anything that can be said about God cannot capture the reality. Followers of the Advaita Vedanta tradition (based on the teachings of Adi Shankara) maintain that the soul and God are ultimately identical and liberation is achieved once this has been realised. This teaching is called non-dualism or advaita because it claims there is no distinction between the soul and the ultimate reality.
2. Bhagavan is a person. God can be understood as a supreme person with qualities of love and compassion towards creatures. On this theistic view the soul remains distinct from the Lord even in liberation. The supreme Lord expresses himself through the many gods and goddesses. The theologian Ramanuja (also in the wider Vedanta tradition as Shankara) makes a distinction between the essence of God and his energies. We can know the energies of God but not his essence. Devotion (bhakti) is the best way to understand God in this teaching.
For convenience Hindus are often classified into the three most popular Hindu denominations, called paramparas in Sanskrit. These paramparas are defined by their attraction to a particular form of God (called ishta or devata):
• Vaishnavas focus on Vishnu and his incarnations (avatara, avatars). The Vaishanavas believe that God incarnates into the world in different forms such as Krishna and Rama in order to restore dharma. This is considered to be the most popular Hindu denomination.
• Shaivas focus on Shiva, particularly in his form of the linga although other forms such as the dancing Shiva are also worshipped. The Shaiva Siddhanta tradition believes that Shiva performs five acts of creation, maintenance, destruction, concealing himself, revealing himself through grace.
• Shaktas focus on the Goddess in her gentle forms such as Lakshmi, Parvati, and Sarasvati, or in her ferocious forms such as Durga and Kali.

If you wish to read more:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religio…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religio…

Therefore; if you wish to believe in God, you can.

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noonelikesaknowitall wrote:

the_manning_er wrote:
i am NOT trolling so when i say there is no such thing as god, please dont be offended. if there was such a entity then why is there so much death, lies, corruption, greed, shall i continue? all of these things have ruined and will continue to ruin society as we all know it, why is that? why isnt there world peace? why doesnt this all mighty one come to earth and TAKE AWAY all these bad people? the answer is because it does NOT exist, nor will it ever.

I respect your not believing but fyi your questions are explained in the bible, any one reading your post may assume that they are not.

i have never put any stock in that book, how can anyone prove that what was written actually happened?

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2 days, 4 hours after post)

the_manning_er wrote:

noonelikesaknowitall wrote:
the_manning_er wrote:
i am NOT trolling so when i say there is no such thing as god, please dont be offended. if there was such a entity then why is there so much death, lies, corruption, greed, shall i continue? all of these things have ruined and will continue to ruin society as we all know it, why is that? why isnt there world peace? why doesnt this all mighty one come to earth and TAKE AWAY all these bad people? the answer is because it does NOT exist, nor will it ever.

I respect your not believing but fyi your questions are explained in the bible, any one reading your post may assume that they are not.

i have never put any stock in that book, how can anyone prove that what was written actually happened?

Well there are many historians that say as a historical document (i.e. the life of Jesus, the people and places mentioned in it) there is nothing wrong with it and is highly believable. I could see how other parts, like creation, talking to God and miracles are much harder to believe.

For me I believe we were created and therefore the rest of it is far easier to believe as if we were created then the creator would be all powerful. As an explanation of what was wrong with me, it holds great weight and as tool to renew my mind it has been life changing. That is a personal thing though. As it has not been proven that we were not created, it comes down to a world view, then there is no case to lock me up in the nut house just yet!

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An Undisclosed Location | 11 months, 2 weeks ago (2 days, 11 hours after post)

One thing I remember reading a long time ago was trying to contrast certain aspects of Christianity and Hinduism. For many Christians it really matters if there actually was a historical Jesus. It helps them believe in God. But to take an example from Hinduism, perhaps not at the same level but somewhat similar, Krishna may be considered an avatar of Vishnu whether Krishna actually showed up in actual physical reality or not.

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An Unknown Location | 11 months, 1 week ago (1 week after post)

the_manning_er wrote:

noonelikesaknowitall wrote:
the_manning_er wrote:
i am NOT trolling so when i say there is no such thing as god, please dont be offended. if there was such a entity then why is there so much death, lies, corruption, greed, shall i continue? all of these things have ruined and will continue to ruin society as we all know it, why is that? why isnt there world peace? why doesnt this all mighty one come to earth and TAKE AWAY all these bad people? the answer is because it does NOT exist, nor will it ever.

I respect your not believing but fyi your questions are explained in the bible, any one reading your post may assume that they are not.

i have never put any stock in that book, how can anyone prove that what was written actually happened?

You know that is why religion is described as “faith” or “belief”. Precisely because there isn’t a definitive way to prove that everything in the bible happened.

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