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Catholic Doctors and Jewish boys…

It seems they are trying to make it so that doctors will have no choice but to perform abortions, weather they think it’s morally acceptable or not.

Why can’t hospitals decide for themselves if they want to do abortions? What happened to religious rights? Don’t they know what will happen to the econamy and the areas if all those hospitals close?

So I read something recently about circumcision being outlawed (I think it was in Germany) in order to protect the child’s rights to bodily integrity. The Jewish community was all upset about it, but I kind of agree with it. What if they boy dosn’t want to be Jewish when he grows up? They can always decide to have it done later in life, so it’s like taking their choice away.

It seems religous freedom takes freedom away from somebody, but not having religious freedom takes freedom away from somebody also.

How to you decide who gets priority? I think the children should always come first. What do you think?

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Tyffani_Raquel 303 #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 3 weeks ago (8 minutes after post)

Circumcision isn’t only a jewish thing. Many parents do it for health reasons. As for the child chosing when they get older, that stuff has to be painful…they won’t remember the pain as a baby.

As for the abortion. I believe there should be clinics but that it shouldn’t be forced on hospitals. If they chose to do it they can.

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Pink Freud 54 #
Spokane, WA, US | 10 months, 3 weeks ago (33 minutes after post)

thenothingguru wrote:
I read something recently about circumcision being outlawed (I think it was in Germany) in order to protect the child’s rights to bodily integrity. The Jewish community was all upset about it, but I kind of agree with it. What if they boy dosn’t want to be Jewish when he grows up? They can always decide to have it done later in life, so it’s like taking their choice away.

I think the children should always come first. What do you think?

So you think that if a kid decides that later in life they don’t want to be alive they should be allowed to kill themselves? I fail to see the connection between circumcision being a child’s choice and abortion being a child’s choice.

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thenothingguru #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 10 minutes after post)

tyffani_raquel wrote:
Circumcision isn’t only a jewish thing. Many parents do it for health reasons. As for the child chosing when they get older, that stuff has to be painful…they won’t remember the pain as a baby.

As for the abortion. I believe there should be clinics but that it shouldn’t be forced on hospitals. If they chose to do it they can.

Well obviously you still do it for health reasons, I’m talking about religious reasons. And it is horribly painful apparently, but that will be thier own choice and not someone elses.

I agree… but there has been worry that a lot of catholic based hospitals will close due to new laws.

The contradiction here is giving cathloics religious freedom in some reguards but not Jews all in favor of the children.

Pink Freud wrote:

thenothingguru wrote:
I read something recently about circumcision being outlawed (I think it was in Germany) in order to protect the child’s rights to bodily integrity. The Jewish community was all upset about it, but I kind of agree with it. What if they boy dosn’t want to be Jewish when he grows up? They can always decide to have it done later in life, so it’s like taking their choice away.

I think the children should always come first. What do you think?

So you think that if a kid decides that later in life they don’t want to be alive they should be allowed to kill themselves? I fail to see the connection between circumcision being a child’s choice and abortion being a child’s choice.

all I mean is not making major, unchangable decisions for a young child that will affect them for the rest of their lives, or allowing them to have lives in the first place. I do not think we should give people the option of suiside, people who are suisidal are not in the right mind and should not be considered able to make decisions like that. Like a brain damaged person can’t choose to have their plug pulled or not.

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spiratec9 2 #
Burnaby, BC, CA | 10 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 15 minutes after post)

circumcision is not that big of a deal.One way or the other.
Abortion is also not that bad due to the fact the soul dosn’t become
attached to the fetus until later in the pregnancy.
this is because natural abortions(misscarries) occur all the time.

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thenothingguru #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 20 minutes after post)

spiratec9 wrote:
circumcision is not that big of a deal.One way or the other.
Abortion is also not that bad due to the fact the soul dosn’t become
attached to the fetus until later in the pregnancy.
this is because natural abortions(misscarries) occur all the time.

Why do you say that the soul does not become attached to the body? If that is so, why are they considered people at conception? (I know not eveyone thinks they are, but if not then than when? And I’ve heard of abortions being done up to 28 weeks).

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Tyffani_Raquel 303 #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 3 weeks ago (1 hour, 25 minutes after post)

Ok a you keep saying that the child has no choice but a child isnt able to understand whats happening. there is a reason there are parents, to make designs for the child for the childs best interest. thats like saying feeding a child periodically if against the childs will. they may not want the bottle but if you don’t give it to them they will starve. circumcision has become more health related than religious. children cant chose what they want because if they did we would have a nation of idiots that dropped out of school and obese people siting on there fat ***** doing nothing. they are not capable of big decisions like that.

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thenothingguru #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 3 weeks ago (2 hours, 42 minutes after post)

I think we are getting off topic. I just agree that a child’s right to bodily integrity is more important than circumcision when not done for a medical perpose.

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