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mindhealer offline Verified User (3 years) Long Term User Shouts: 47 #
An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (5 minutes after post)

You cannot depend on other mortal humans unconditionally, no. Not at all. This is kind of extreme, but what if the earth were suddenly wiped out right as they were supposed to do something for you?

I think I would somewhat unconditionally promise to help you if we knew each other better or were closer or something, but a lot of that is based on the fact that you always act like a decent person. If I gave a sort of unconditional promise to help and then you suddenly wanted me to do something dangerous and illegal, I’d probably say “no”. Also my own limitations cause me to fail, but in some situations I know exactly how to make keepable promises and not promise something that I can’t provide.

I hope that helps a little, that’s just the first thoughts I think in considering you post.

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mindhealer offline Verified User (3 years) Long Term User Shouts: 47 #
An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (9 minutes after post)

And considering “love”,like romantic love, people fall into dreams of romantic love which they don’t understand, and in trying to relate the strong feelings to actual facts, they think they would always be there for the other person, or always love them, or never not love them, or would happily do anything for them — you name it, just trying to find any facts that could actually describe such overwhelming feelings. But those feelings could be gone in an hour, a day, a month. Then what do those “facts” mean? Not much without a marriage contract.

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An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (10 minutes after post)

You can unconditionally love anyone or anything by your own freewill choice, just think very strongly, “I bless this person and situation with love,” — and actually do it.

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An Unknown Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (24 minutes after post)

there has been one person who has always been there for me. everything i’ve been through, they’ve been my rock and tought me everything. one day they won’t be there but their spirit will never leave me.

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BigWilly! offline Verified User (2 years, 7 months) Long Term User Shouts: 56 #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (26 minutes after post)

My dog Coco. That’s as unconditional as it gets. She even eats my cookin’.. that’s gotta be love.

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verge offline Verified User (1 year, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 134 #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (30 minutes after post)

One smart person I know says that unconditional love is not possible for an individual because in order to put your heart and mind and body totally into understanding another person, you lose your identity. Basically in order to love someone totally, without conditions, there is the condition of giving up yourself, which basically makes that love conditional. Another smart person I know says that that is stupid. I’m not sure myself. To love another person unconditionally, aren’t you giving that person permission to destroy you? Is that the point? That they won’t? Are these complete demonstrations of trust and faith healthy? I think love might have to be conditional because to love, we must first of all love and know ourselves, and pick people to love that somehow exhibit traits that we love in ourselves or value in the world in general. We will always love the traits that we find valuable, but we may no longer see them in a person. I think I can depend on my dad totally and completely no matter what. Maybe parents have unconditional love for their children. I think two similar people might be able to lose themselves in each other without actually losing themselves. I don’t know. I guess the thing about love is it can make up for things that are lacking in people. If two unlike people fall in love, they might find out that they sort of balance each other out as they lose themselves in understanding each other. Is love the decision to understand someone despite the negative effects that that knowledge might have on you?

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An Unknown Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (56 minutes after post)

verge wrote:
One smart person I know says that unconditional love is not possible for an individual because in order to put your heart and mind and body totally into understanding another person, you lose your identity. Basically in order to love someone totally, without conditions, there is the condition of giving up yourself, which basically makes that love conditional. Another smart person I know says that that is stupid. I’m not sure myself. To love another person unconditionally, aren’t you giving that person permission to destroy you? Is that the point? That they won’t? Are these complete demonstrations of trust and faith healthy? I think love might have to be conditional because to love, we must first of all love and know ourselves, and pick people to love that somehow exhibit traits that we love in ourselves or value in the world in general. We will always love the traits that we find valuable, but we may no longer see them in a person. I think I can depend on my dad totally and completely no matter what. Maybe parents have unconditional love for their children. I think two similar people might be able to lose themselves in each other without actually losing themselves. I don’t know. I guess the thing about love is it can make up for things that are lacking in people. If two unlike people fall in love, they might find out that they sort of balance each other out as they lose themselves in understanding each other. Is love the decision to understand someone despite the negative effects that that knowledge might have on you?

love is wanting the best for someone. not necessarily deciding to understand them. from my understanding.

what unconditional means, I don’t know, I guess it’s never having conditions that make you stop loving so if you love no matter what then unconditional love exists. yes, I think true.

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trentlover20 offline Verified User (11 months, 3 weeks) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (58 minutes after post)

Yes it exists in my sister who has put up more from me than anyone else on the planet has put up from anyone. No one else would put up with me, no one else would live with me.

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Chi The Cat offline Verified User (5 years, 5 months) Long Term User Shouts: 1 #
An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (1 hour, 52 minutes after post)

Nope. I’ve learned I can’t even rely on myself. And if you can’t rely on yourself, you know other people will be useless, too.

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The Sherlockian offline Verified User (5 years, 1 month) Long Term User Shouts: 39 #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 2 weeks ago (2 hours, 57 minutes after post)

My wife has shown me the closest thing to unconditional love. And I’m sure it IS unconditional, as we have been through some situations–imposed upon us from external sources–that I know must have tested her love close to the limit.

Now, however, I wold like to introduce the concept of a “true love.” A true love is one in which you love unconditionally, and are unconditionally loved back. Whereas in a “love” that falls short of a “true love,” one partner or the other can do something that gets him or her kicked out of the relationship.

Suppose you are a single mom dating a guy. You really love this guy. You leave your six-year-old son with him while you go to the grocery store. When you get back, you find out that he has “sold” your son to a childless couple. Would your love be “unconditional” right then? I highly doubt it! In this case, the single mom was not loved back.

So, you can have unconditional love if you love unconditionally and are loved back unconditionally, but otherwise some definite limits are going to fall into place!

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Do you think unconditional love really exists?

People always say they will be there for you no matter what, but they never really are.

This quote aptly describes how I feel: “Don’t depend too much on anyone in this world because even your own shadow leaves you when you are in darkness.”

What do you guys think? True or false? Can you depend on others?

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