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mindhealer online Verified User (3 years) Long Term User Shouts: 52 #
An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 1 week ago (4 minutes after post)

What if i don’t want to ‘’get better”?

Then nothing really matters. I know you’re really not that far gone, but if it gets to that point, complete zombie, just choose any positive ideals arbitrarily. Like, do a websearch, “positive ideals”. And arbitrarily pretend those are what is important. It really shouldn’t matter if you basically don’t even care about living. And what’s great about it is that such arbitrary choices can end up making life interesting again, even though you would have no interest in having it be interesting.

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An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 1 week ago (6 minutes after post)

Before you do that, just identify what you really value. All these things you don’t care about don’t really matter, but obviously something matters to you, you spend a lot of thought and care on life, with obvious judgment and valuation of different things. Different people have different values, that’s just natural. It doesn’t make the rest of us wrong or trying to change your values, we just value different things.

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An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 1 week ago (18 minutes after post)

But its gotten to that point before.. and was very hard to get out of it. every time I feel myself slipping now I try to stay grounded to something.. a reason to try and get through the day, even if that’s just to talk with my friends online or to walk the dogs. A Routine.. something. But trying to care is very draining. Even simple tasks. I don’t want to..I know how much worse it can get though.” Like a zombie” and its horrible.. but I don’t want to try anymore.. I don’t even think medication would fix that..

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The Sherlockian offline Verified User (5 years, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 26 #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 1 week ago (48 minutes after post)

Here’s the thing, and you’ve GOT to believe us here: if you didn’t feel so bad, you WOULD want to be better, and you WOULD want to enjoy your life fully!

You have, in my most humble guesstimation, a case of textbook depression.

And you’re right about meds . . . they won’t fix the root cause of your depression, unless it’s a simple brain chemical imbalance. You have to find out what it was in your life that turned you off wanting to live your life.

My daughter had depression. We got her to the doctors. But here’s what I told her: nobody gets a pass in life. We all have obligations to one another. We might as well have never lived if we don’t recognize–and fulfill–our obligations to our fellow human beings.

While you were growing up, a whole host of people did things for you. They provided you with food, shelter, education and opportunities. They paid an obligation to you–and now it’s coming up your turn. Imagine if all of the doctors, nurses, teachers and other people just “turned off and dropped out” of life. Where would YOU have been had that happened?

No, you have obligations, and responsibilities, and duties.

You have an obligation and a responsibility to get well and rejoin the human race. Otherwise–you dishonor all of those who came before you! You make a mockery of the struggles your ancestors endured to get to this point.

No–none of us are privileged to just drop out of life. And I will tell you that the grave comes soon enough. Your tombstone will show the year you were born and the year that you died. That hyphen between your birth and death dates–that’s your life.

There’s a parable in the New Testament about some servants who were given money, talents in this case, and told to do whatever they would with it to increase themselves. All but one invested the money and got more money than they had before. One, however, buried his money so that he would not lose it. The master, upon hearing this, cast him out–for he had literally buried his talents, doing no one any good.

Don’t bury your talents in depression. Don’t cheat the world out of what you owe your fellow human being.

Talk to your parents and get help . . . and once you rejoin the human race, you’ll be glad that you did!

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Zirbel offline Verified User (2 years, 10 months) Long Term User Shouts: 4 #
An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 1 week ago (53 minutes after post)

If you don’t change your attitude against helping professionals
(like on your other post: http://help.com/post/557663-help )
you’ll never get REAL help.

There is no way for self-help in your case.

And the olden times when wishing still helped are over …

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Savanna_ offline Verified User (2 years) Long Term User Shouts: 29 #
An Undisclosed Location | 10 months, 1 week ago (1 hour, 8 minutes after post)

‘’ No, you have obligations, and responsibilities, ‘’

I have what..

All I can say is that I’m sorry if that upsets my family, but it is my life. I’m not asking for a free pass. Im not going around the house whining about how miserserable I am .. in hopes of what, getting slack? I don’t expect my family to understand. I get that its selfish to want to take your own life, but isn’t it worse to keep feeling this way? They don’t have to live with it every single day.. I do. There are billions of people. Like ants. The world is overpopulated anyways.

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The Sherlockian offline Verified User (5 years, 2 months) Long Term User Shouts: 26 #
An Unknown Location | 10 months, 1 week ago (1 hour, 46 minutes after post)

Savanna_ wrote:
‘’ No, you have obligations, and responsibilities, ‘’

I have what..

All I can say is that I’m sorry if that upsets my family, but it is my life. I’m not asking for a free pass. Im not going around the house whining about how miserserable I am .. in hopes of what, getting slack? I don’t expect my family to understand. I get that its selfish to want to take your own life, but isn’t it worse to keep feeling this way? They don’t have to live with it every single day.. I do. There are billions of people. Like ants. The world is overpopulated anyways.

“not for whom the bell tolls,” said John Dunne. “It tolls for thee.” He also wrote, “No man is an island.” And by extrapolation, neither is a woman . . . or a girl.

Sorry, but once you’re here you’re expected to contribute. There may be billions of people, but only one possess your unique mix of intelligence, skills and aptitudes. Maybe you’re going to be the woman who cures cancer, or the mother of the woman who cures cancer. But that won’t happen if you’re not here, will it?

It’s a corny movie in some ways, but you should really watch “It’s a Wonderful Life” with Jimmy Stewart playing the lead. In the movie, Stewart’s character screws up royally and loses some money needed to keep his business going. He wishes he had never been born. So God creates an alternate timeline, or alternate reality, in which he was never born–and shows him the results. He realizes that the world would be a worse place without him, and he is reinstated into his former life.

Let’s say you don’t exist any longer. There’s maybe somebody out there who commits suicide because you weren’t there to lend a helping hand. There’s a number of people whose lives spiral down into despair because you weren’t there to befriend them. There’s some dogs and cats who die of starvation becauses nobody else would help them. There’s a little boy who gets snatched by a pedophile because you no longer existed to stop it from happening.

Are you beginning to get the picture?

You have a beautiful life ahead of you. But you have to claim it. I sense that you have some strong ancestors in your family line. And I know that none of them gave up . . . none of them threw in the towel.

Now . . . you can’t be wimping out on us, thinking that you somehow get excused from the pain and pleasure of living . . . so get up, go into the living room and tell your parents that you need to see a doctor, and soon!

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Savanna_ edited this post 10 months, 1 week ago. Read the previous text »

What if i don’t want to ‘’get better”?

I have felt this way for over four years and obviously seeking help came to mind in the past.. but the same thing always stops me. I think I’d rather be dead.. its not that something bad happened to put this in my head, and honestly I’m pretty good at socializing when I try.. its just a lack of caring. I have not cared in a very long time, Even with the things I used to love to do.. I’m not sure what you would call that, being apathetic? I don’t care enough to want to live..

That’s just a rant, I know. My question is.. why seek help with surviving when the thought of getting up every day bores me.. and makes me sick to my stomech.. ? But I can’t think of any other way that works besides hanging.. and that really hurts.. I’ve tried..

I’m stuck.. but I don’t want to keep doing this.. I wish I could at least sleep..

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